1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Good morning everybody, and welcome to the Daily OS. It 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: is the nineteenth of July. On today's podcast, we're going 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: to be looking into what the report on the Uvaldi 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: shooting says. Now a couple of weeks after the mass shooting. 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: It takes a little bit of time to go through 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: the key findings, but it's a worthy exercise. But first, Zara, 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: what are the lead stories this morning? 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: If you've noticed that fuel is expensive, that is unlikely 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: to change, with Federal Treasurer Jim Chalmers saying yesterday that 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: the temporary fuel excise discount introduced by the previous coalition 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 2: government in March would be quote too expensive to continue. 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: He said that quote we can't afford to continue that 13 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: petrol price release forever. The excise cut provides a discount 14 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: of more than twenty cents per leater of petrol and 15 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 2: is due to expire on the twenty eighth of September 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: this year. 17 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Climate Change and Energy Minister Chris Bowen said that 18 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: label will work cooperatively with the Crossbench on the government's 19 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: plans for a forty three percent emissions reduction target by 20 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: twenty thirty. Of the cross Bench that include the Teal 21 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: Independence and the Greens will likely push for stronger climate targets, 22 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: which Bowen has said will be discussed in good faith. 23 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 2: The UK could have its hottest day on record this 24 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: week amid a heat wave that is engulfing much of 25 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: the country. Temperatures are forecast to reach forty one degrees celsius, 26 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: which has prompted an extreme heat warning to be issued 27 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: in London and parts of southeast England up to York 28 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: and Manchester in the north. 29 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: And today's good news, the Act has announced it will 30 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: introduce a new target to have eighty to ninety percent 31 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: of new vehicle sales being zero emission vehicles in twenty thirty. 32 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: The government says transport emissions currently account for about sixty 33 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: percent of all acts emissions. This new target is part 34 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: of its overall goal to have net zero emissions by 35 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: twenty forty five. Zara, Today we're talking about the school 36 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: shooting in New Valdi, Texas, which happened on the twenty 37 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: fourth of May this year, where a gunman killed time 38 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: twenty one people. Now, over the weekend we saw a 39 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: new report published following an investigation into the police response 40 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: at the time of the attack. Before we look at 41 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: that report and some of those key findings. Can you 42 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: give us a rundown of what exactly happens there? 43 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 2: Just before midday on the twenty fourth of May, an 44 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 2: eighteen year old gunman entered the rob Elementary School in Nuvaldi. 45 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 2: He killed nineteen students and two teachers whilst active in 46 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: the school. The gunman had been in the building for 47 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 2: more than an hour before officers finally stormed the classrooms 48 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: and fatally shot him. This was the deadliest school shooting 49 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: in the US since the Sandy Hook shooting in twenty twelve. 50 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 2: It was also this shooting, and it must be said 51 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: that there have been many since and many prior that 52 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 2: put gun control back in the spotlight in the US. 53 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: A month after this shooting occurred, Congress passed a bipartisan bill, 54 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: meaning it had support from both the Republicans and the Democrats, 55 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: which is designed to stop dangerous people from accessing firearms. 56 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: Now, I know that a big focus after the shooting 57 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: was the actions of the police in that critical time 58 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: where police had entered the school but not intervened in 59 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: the shooting. Can you tell us about what the report 60 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: had to say? 61 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 2: Okay, so first we'll start with who actually prepared the report. 62 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: It was prepared by a special committee from the Texas 63 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 2: House of Representatives. And this isn't, by any means their 64 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: final report. It's just an interim report, meaning that the 65 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: work on this matter isn't yet complete, but what we 66 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: do know is quite extensive. The report was nearly eighty pages, 67 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: and it made a number of accusations at all levels 68 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: of law enforcement and identified a number of shortcomings and 69 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: failures that they say could have saved lives if these 70 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: tragic mistakes were not made. The report also said that 71 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: authorities prioritized their own safety over the lives of school 72 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: children and didn't adhere to the active shooter training that 73 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 2: they had been given. The report said that officers on 74 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: the ground took a quite unacceptably long period of time 75 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: to enter the classrooms, neutralize the shooter, and begin rescue efforts. 76 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: And before this report was released, there was some discussion 77 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: in American and global media about the failures by the 78 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: Uvalde and Texas police during the shooting and also how 79 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: they summarized what happens to families directly after. What evidence 80 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: did the authors of the report look at in trying 81 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,239 Speaker 1: to ascertain how the police behaved during the shooting. 82 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: So the talk about the poor police response that we 83 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: were referring to that was largely sparked by surveillance footage 84 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: from inside the school being released, where it showed police 85 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: officers waiting over an hour to take action against the shooter. 86 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: In the footage, there's even vision of one policeman taking 87 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 2: the time to apply hand sanitizer from one of the 88 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: school's dispensaries while he waited by the hallway while the 89 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: shooter was still active. We heard from Dustin Burrows, who's 90 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: the chair of the committee, about the police response on 91 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: that day. 92 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 3: If you know and the training and standards we set 93 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,679 Speaker 3: for officers, as if you know there is active shooting, 94 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 3: active killing going on, or somebody is ny, the standard 95 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 3: is you have to continue to do something to stop 96 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 3: that killing or stop that dying. That day, several officers 97 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 3: in the hallway or in that building knew or should 98 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 3: have known, there was dying in that classroom, and they 99 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 3: should have done more active with urgency. Try the door handles, 100 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 3: try to go in through the windows, try to distract them, 101 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 3: try to do something. 102 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 2: Burrows went on to say that some officers, in their 103 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 2: defense were denied access to the school or were given 104 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: misleading or false information, which meant that they weren't actually 105 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 2: aware of the gravity of the situation. 106 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: One of the things that really strikes me in the 107 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: vision is that there doesn't seem to be anybody particularly 108 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: in charge. Did the report shed any light on this? 109 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: This is actually one of the biggest problems that the 110 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 2: report identify, and again there were many, but this really 111 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: stood out. There was no person obviously in charge. Under 112 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 2: the Uvaldi active shooter plan, the chief of the local 113 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: police is meant to assume command of the response, but 114 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 2: the scene was described as chaotic, and the report found 115 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: that no person effectively controls the law enforcement response on 116 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: that day. The actual Yuvaldi police chief happened to be 117 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: on leave during the day of the shooting, so the 118 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: rains were handed over to Mariano Pagas, who was. 119 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: The acting police chief. 120 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: Pargos set up a command post, which is a place 121 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 2: where he could coordinate his resources around the school, but 122 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: then left this area to be updated on the situation, 123 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: which resulted in the command post being abandoned. The report 124 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 2: was particularly scathing about this, saying that an effective command 125 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 2: post would have transformed chaos into order at the scene, 126 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: which would have included the deliberate assignment of tasks and 127 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 2: management of information. Yesterday we found out that Pargos has 128 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 2: been placed on administrative leave as an internal review of 129 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: the department's response is launched. 130 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: It's worth mentioning that last week, after almost three decades, 131 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: gun reform did pass through Congress, although it was a 132 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: bit light on detail that Democrats were chasing. It goes 133 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: without saying that this is a massive issue for the 134 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: US to face, and an extremely complex political environment doesn't 135 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: help that. That's all we've got time for today on 136 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: the Dally Os podcast. If you want to catch up 137 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: with the news throughout the day, follow us on Instagram 138 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: at the dally Oz. Otherwise we'll be back in your 139 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: ears tomorrow morning.