Speaker 1: Is it just me the rude shocks of young adulthood?
Speaker 2: Okoy?
Speaker 3: Do have time to hear from today's guest on the podcast,
Speaker 3: the one and only Jessica Rowe.
Speaker 2: We're big fans of her work.
Speaker 3: She's been on our TV screens for years and now
Speaker 3: on our TikTok.
Speaker 2: She's a bloody hoot.
Speaker 4: She's the best.
Speaker 3: We spoke to her the other day and I decided
Speaker 3: to organize a little surprise for my mother.
Speaker 2: Jane who is who was in town? Yeah, she was
Speaker 2: saying with me. She's a big fan of Jests Row,
Speaker 2: so I brought her in to meet her. So cute.
Speaker 2: Wait till you hear the reaction.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Honestly, it was so over the top. I wasn't expecting.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that my mother was that melodramatic, but.
Speaker 2: It was adorable. We loved having Jests in the studio.
Speaker 1: Bill love it. If you don't know who Jesse is
Speaker 1: TV icon, been in the media in the country for
Speaker 1: a long time. A very funny, very enigmatic, eclectic.
Speaker 2: Woman, very much herself one of a kind. Loved it.
Speaker 1: Are here to go? This is us with jess Row.
Speaker 4: Good evening. I'm Jessica Road.
Speaker 2: Watch me write Jessica Row. They're everywhere at the moment.
Speaker 1: This is a moment that we've been waiting for, personally
Speaker 1: Mitchell for such a xt moment bucket and as you know,
Speaker 1: the show is the show's terminal. We're in our dying months.
Speaker 1: So what we're trying to do is tick off some
Speaker 1: items from our bucket list. Many things live on that
Speaker 1: bucket list. But I was only talking last week about
Speaker 1: how I hate having guests on the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know where that came from. No, sure,
Speaker 2: our next guest is not one of those people that
Speaker 2: is my next point.
Speaker 1: No, this guess is the exception because they are so talented,
Speaker 1: they're one of the warmest people in the industry. We
Speaker 1: adore the Mitchell since before we even had a show.
Speaker 4: One of my favorites of all time.
Speaker 1: Hilarious fun, she's a mum TV presenter, she's one of
Speaker 1: the one of the hottest couples in Australia. She's a
Speaker 1: cat lover.
Speaker 2: It is just right.
Speaker 4: Well, I just feel so lucky being here. I instantly
Speaker 4: feel cooler I do. I feel like my if there's
Speaker 4: such a thing, my cool radar is like you're all up.
Speaker 1: Or that's what they say. You've got aller points from
Speaker 1: being here.
Speaker 2: I mean, as far as outfits go, you take the
Speaker 2: cool cake.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel so underdressed next to Jessica by justice,
Speaker 3: But where do you even buy tool Like?
Speaker 4: This is my confetti jacket and I had to bring
Speaker 4: the confetti the party for all of you. I love
Speaker 4: an outfit. I normally, as you know, like to incorporate
Speaker 4: a cat something in my outfit, but I haven't today.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Okay, Now we need to address this, this romance because
Speaker 1: Mitch and I walk up and you know a couple
Speaker 1: of mitches, Mitch and Mitch. People go love the Mitch's
Speaker 1: and we walk up, jess pushes us to the side,
Speaker 1: tackles Jenna to the ground.
Speaker 3: It goes it's you get these two clowns and Jenna
Speaker 3: she's got We were the assistance.
Speaker 1: What is going on here?
Speaker 4: I'm so excited to see Jenna in this guys, because
Speaker 4: we bonded over pussy cats were crazy cat ladies. And
Speaker 4: when I was doing a fill in shift for Jonesy
Speaker 4: and Amanda filling Amanda's very big shoes, jennerally chatting and
Speaker 4: we were talking about cats, and I've got cat suits,
Speaker 4: boxes of them at home merch.
Speaker 1: Course you do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And as soon as I saw photos of them,
Speaker 4: I was like, I have to because I love pilates
Speaker 4: so and I love cats.
Speaker 2: And I love j Son.
Speaker 1: Wear it to pilarate.
Speaker 2: I've not seen this cat suit? Is it Pilarti's appropriate.
Speaker 4: It's very pilati is appropriate. Okay, it's a onesie so
Speaker 4: it's all in one. And why it's great for pilarates
Speaker 4: or any kind of exercise really is it covers everything
Speaker 4: so nothing hangs out. Oh I love that, and it's
Speaker 4: got the pictures of smiling cats all over it.
Speaker 3: I've just had a Google and you all, but I
Speaker 3: was picturing. I was picturing some fairy ship, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 1: I was picturing furries too, like Marti Gras, you know.
Speaker 4: Like a furbie.
Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, kind of Oh but there It's.
Speaker 4: Like, Okay, that's right.
Speaker 2: It gets going.
Speaker 4: It's not this, No, it's not, but it does get
Speaker 4: me going.
Speaker 2: Where is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we are very excited to have you here because
Speaker 3: Mitch and I and Jenna, I suppose we are like
Speaker 3: TV as I remember, surely you guys remember too, like
Speaker 3: the golden days of Channel ten. It was Jez throw
Speaker 3: and Ron Wilson on the NUS, The Simpsons neighbors. Oh,
Speaker 3: you were just glued to Channel ten back in the day.
Speaker 4: Five.
Speaker 3: Yesaltic about it, but I reckon now, you kind of
Speaker 3: be glad that you're not in a news three to job, right,
Speaker 3: because you're not able to show a lot of personality
Speaker 3: and something like that.
Speaker 4: Not at all. And I loved at the time being
Speaker 4: like a news presenter in a vertal columnies.
Speaker 2: You were bloody good at it.
Speaker 4: It's so good. Oh thank you.
Speaker 2: But that was not the true jest that we know.
Speaker 4: But also the point is it wasn't It wasn't all
Speaker 4: of me. And I think when I began as a journalist,
Speaker 4: I was very you know, I thought I had to
Speaker 4: be serious. So I had these ideas I was going
Speaker 4: to be an overseas correspondent, and I was very and
Speaker 4: was it a time when you had to just be
Speaker 4: one thing. I'm going to be a serious journalist. I'm
Speaker 4: a news presenter, so therefore I have to always be serious.
Speaker 4: But my favorite story every night was the panda story,
Speaker 4: the obsessed with pandas, and that was forever my goal
Speaker 4: that we have to see we need a panda story.
Speaker 3: And in literally a panda story, or just the term
Speaker 3: they use for something light and fluffy, or it could
Speaker 3: be the cut up the tree.
Speaker 4: Yeah story, but I know it was legitimately we need
Speaker 4: a panda story. So every night that was one of
Speaker 4: the producer's jobs and we come up with all the
Speaker 4: different you know, pandemonium and all of those kind of cliches.
Speaker 4: But that was my highlight because I could show a
Speaker 4: bit of my personality.
Speaker 1: How do I go? And this is good for the
Speaker 1: young listeners who are in their one line of work
Speaker 1: and they're in their early twenties and they go, but
Speaker 1: I kind of want.
Speaker 2: To do this.
Speaker 1: Is that your advice to start having little moments where
Speaker 1: you're doing exactly what it is you want to do,
Speaker 1: and then does that lead to more of that.
Speaker 4: I'm always hesitant to sort of give advice because it's
Speaker 4: different for everyone, and I think the key for all
Speaker 4: of us stuff. Having said I won't give advice, I'll
Speaker 4: give some advice I am a mama, is back yourself
Speaker 4: and have a crack go for it. What is the
Speaker 4: worst thing that can happen. I've had plenty of very
Speaker 4: public failures, but I don't regret them. I gave it
Speaker 4: a go. So I think, don't be afraid, don't be
Speaker 4: afraid of tapping into what is it your heart is
Speaker 4: telling you, or ignore the logical part because sometimes we
Speaker 4: can logic things away. Oh no, no no, but just
Speaker 4: go for it. And it's when I've had those leaps
Speaker 4: of faith that I've learnt the most, and it's been
Speaker 4: the best thing of Also, I think if for people listening,
Speaker 4: don't be afraid and just go for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Literally, my therapist is always encouraging me. Don't forget to
Speaker 3: be playful. Just because you're an adult now, it doesn't
Speaker 3: mean you can't be playful. You have fun, and that
Speaker 3: is the point.
Speaker 5: Though.
Speaker 4: I think the older I get, because I'm now fifty four,
Speaker 4: my botox though that helps me. But the older I get,
Speaker 4: the more playful I am.
Speaker 3: We've noticed drecon that all started on Studio ten, where
Speaker 3: you were allowed to have a bit more fun.
Speaker 2: It wasn't serious journalism. You got to show the true
Speaker 2: quirky Jess.
Speaker 4: I think that was definitely the more public side of
Speaker 4: people seeing the more play for me, whereas they'd always
Speaker 4: been that part of me that my friends knew that
Speaker 4: would be love a costume and dress up and miss
Speaker 4: silly like I remember many years ago a friend of
Speaker 4: mine for her Hens night. She was like, I don't
Speaker 4: want a Hens night. We're not doing it. I said, no,
Speaker 4: you have to. You got to do it. And she
Speaker 4: was like, no strippers, none of that. I said, I
Speaker 4: promise you there'll be none of that, no silliness. But
Speaker 4: her name was Georgie, and it was like, we have
Speaker 4: to come as something, dressed as g that was my idea.
Speaker 4: So I went as a gorilla costume and she and
Speaker 4: her now husband, they he picked us up to drop
Speaker 4: us to the restaurant where we were all going, and
Speaker 4: she just saw this gorilla and she started going no, no,
Speaker 4: because she thought it was like a gorilla gram or something.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize it.
Speaker 1: She did.
Speaker 2: It was me.
Speaker 4: She looked down and she saw my leopard Prince stilettos.
Speaker 4: Then that's jes So. I think there's always been that
Speaker 4: playful part of me totally. But what, yes, what I
Speaker 4: loved about doing Studio ten was that I could be
Speaker 4: truly myself and so I could be silly and like
Speaker 4: dresses a fart. I mean I dressed as a farmer.
Speaker 4: What was the reason there was some dress? Was? It
Speaker 4: was Halloween and you know and craft. I've always loved
Speaker 4: craft since I was a little girl. I like to
Speaker 4: fashion a costume or a hat or something. And I
Speaker 4: crafted this amazing sort of head dress on a headband
Speaker 4: and I had brown chewl and yellow chewl and green
Speaker 4: chewel and Peedie. My husband, he's lying next to me
Speaker 4: in bed and he's saying, what are you doing? And
Speaker 4: he calls me pussy cat, pussy cat, what.
Speaker 2: Are you doing?
Speaker 4: And I said, I'm making a fart cosstumee.
Speaker 2: I bet he wasn't even that shock.
Speaker 4: He wasn't because he basically said, you get more eccentric
Speaker 4: old you get. So he rolled over and back to sleep.
Speaker 4: So I'm stitching away and so the next morning, and
Speaker 4: I didn't. I wanted to surprise everyone, so I scurried
Speaker 4: out at the end. And I remember I sat next
Speaker 4: to ite Buttros and she just looked at me and
Speaker 4: she was like.
Speaker 2: Who are you? What are you? And I said, what
Speaker 2: do you come dressed there?
Speaker 1: Brilliant?
Speaker 4: I'm a fat And she looked at me and she
Speaker 4: was like why And I said why not? And to me,
Speaker 4: though I think that's a really great philosophy for life.
Speaker 4: When I come at you for certain things, I'll say
Speaker 4: why would you do that? And I just thought, well,
Speaker 4: why not? Where am I ever going to get the
Speaker 4: chance to dress as a fart on national television and
Speaker 4: have a laugh?
Speaker 3: And now you can say you've done that because how
Speaker 3: many people can exactly?
Speaker 1: I need a photo of the fart that's.
Speaker 4: Online? Yeah? Just is it?
Speaker 2: Does it upset you to see.
Speaker 1: Where TV is, TV ratings and traditional TV and where
Speaker 1: you come from? But then looking at me, Studio ten
Speaker 1: no longer with us RP, we try to interrupt it.
Speaker 1: That's the fart, there's the Greek because.
Speaker 2: God the green. That's as you were saying, how do
Speaker 2: you feel with our day to TV? I mean it's sad.
Speaker 4: It makes me sad. And what makes me sad is
Speaker 4: that there's so many fabulous, creative people who work in television,
Speaker 4: and because it is changing so much, it's sort of
Speaker 4: will where can we all go? But I suppose what
Speaker 4: makes me sad is the lack of imagination. When it
Speaker 4: comes to free to wear television, it's let's recycle same
Speaker 4: old formulas because people don't want to take a risk
Speaker 4: and it's expensive. So that's the part that makes me sad.
Speaker 1: I feel that. I mean, but then you've got influences,
Speaker 1: and you've got social media, like you you are skyro
Speaker 1: what are your social numbers?
Speaker 2: And they'd be through the roof, become a bit of
Speaker 2: a TikTok start.
Speaker 4: You're so good on TikTok. I've got to get back
Speaker 4: onto the tiktoking. So stopped, Well, no, I haven't stopped,
Speaker 4: but it takes time. So I've got people will look
Speaker 4: at my phone and they go, how come you have
Speaker 4: got like a thousand unready emails and pictures and all
Speaker 4: this stuff. So I filmed all these things, but I
Speaker 4: need to sit down and and my daughter's tease Mex,
Speaker 4: I need glasses. And I'm there like breathing heavily through
Speaker 4: my nose as I'm like scrolling and then cutting little
Speaker 4: clips on my phone to put onto things. And then
Speaker 4: I'll say what's the music? And they're like, mom, if
Speaker 4: you even have to ask that question, don't put music
Speaker 4: on this. And I was like, well, what's the trend?
Speaker 4: Because if you're asking for the trend, it's gone.
Speaker 2: It's past, has happened, it's gone.
Speaker 4: But I enjoy. What I like about TikTok is it's
Speaker 4: another form of storytelling, and I'm very much sort of
Speaker 4: what you will do around the microphone. You're sharing stories
Speaker 4: and that's really how we connect with people. So even
Speaker 4: though you asked, Mitch, you know, how do you feel
Speaker 4: to feel sad about what's happening with Telly?
Speaker 5: Is?
Speaker 4: Yes, there's a part of me that is, but there's
Speaker 4: still all these really exciting ways of storytelling which is
Speaker 4: far more accessible to a whole lot more people.
Speaker 2: And that that's great.
Speaker 4: My though for you, page, your feed, whatever you call it,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of blackhead extraction satisfying you just.
Speaker 2: Do you and do you?
Speaker 1: Because some couples love to pop each other's pimples, Like
Speaker 1: my partner will love to pop my pimples, and I
Speaker 1: think it's a bit gross, and I'm like, yeah, I've
Speaker 1: got some friends who are like, I don't want to
Speaker 1: touch my partners people. Would you ever give you know,
Speaker 1: Pete had a black head? Would you get it for him?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: No, not now watching And also there's you see, we're older,
Speaker 4: so we don't really get the blackheads. We had the
Speaker 4: larger pause. As my daughters like to remind me when
Speaker 4: I left here to talk to you, or they're like, Mum,
Speaker 4: you need some powder really, yes, but I didn't put
Speaker 4: powder on because I think it accentuates pause. When can
Speaker 4: get older, well then thank you. I'll say that to
Speaker 4: my girls are like, Mum, you're paws. But yeah, with
Speaker 4: Pete and I, we don't really have the blackheads so
Speaker 4: much anymore.
Speaker 2: So that's great blackheads. Hello, look at all of your
Speaker 2: full skin or death.
Speaker 4: It was so smooth, sure, and your hair like it's so.
Speaker 2: It's not what I gotta say. I look at people
Speaker 2: like you with short hair, and I go, fuck, your.
Speaker 3: Life must be easier of the mine. Every day it
Speaker 3: crosses my mind, should I just bloody chop it off?
Speaker 4: Do you have to blow it right every day?
Speaker 2: Not every day? But sometimes it's just a lot of work.
Speaker 2: It's too high maintenance.
Speaker 4: Sometimes, especially washing it.
Speaker 2: I can't yours down to your ass crack. You need
Speaker 2: to find a middle ground.
Speaker 4: It is lovely, but I would never have the you
Speaker 4: see the patience for long hair. I've had short hair, oh,
Speaker 4: since I was I Reckon eighteen nineteen, same hairdresser for
Speaker 4: over thirty years. Let anyone else touch my hand I
Speaker 4: followed him to all the different salons he's gone too,
Speaker 4: and we have this ongoing joke where every time I
Speaker 4: sit in his chair, I say, can we have the
Speaker 4: hair talk? He's like, okay, but what is there to
Speaker 4: talk about? You just want the same Yeah. And also
Speaker 4: what I like to do now is, although it's a
Speaker 4: bit boring at the moment, is to mix it up
Speaker 4: with the color.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've had pink care for a little bit, and pink.
Speaker 4: I've done pink. I've done coral, coral coral, or a
Speaker 4: pale rock melon. I did a but Petie, my husband
Speaker 4: was like, oh, pussy cat, I have to take you
Speaker 4: to the retirement village. Hey, oh I hat didn't like it, no,
Speaker 4: because he was literally like, oh, this is a like
Speaker 4: a blue rinse.
Speaker 3: This is something old ladies do, right, because that's the
Speaker 3: only color that attaches to gray hair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh is that really know that? Yes? Blue and
Speaker 2: per a purple, Yeah, which is why they do it. Yes,
Speaker 2: I didn't know that a big color. Yeah, it looks great. Oh,
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 4: But I do need to mix it up again with
Speaker 4: a bit of color. So whenever I go to the hairdresser, PETI,
Speaker 4: he looks at me like, what color are you doing?
Speaker 4: I say to him, all right, Pete, I'm going boring
Speaker 4: labrador color for you, crazy color next.
Speaker 3: I do love hearing all the stories about Petie being
Speaker 3: so patient with you, especially all the crap housewife stuff,
Speaker 3: because not only I've made it no secret that you
Speaker 3: are a crap housewife, but you completely embrace it.
Speaker 2: It's actually genius. It's my brain now. I can't be
Speaker 2: expected to be good at this hair exactly.
Speaker 4: And what I had not expected was that by embracing
Speaker 4: being a crap housewife, by embracing my imperfection, that it
Speaker 4: would resonate with so many other people and for me,
Speaker 4: because I had terrible postnatal depression after the birth of
Speaker 4: both of my girls, and it was particularly bad after
Speaker 4: I had Allegro, who's now seventeen, and so much of
Speaker 4: that was tied up with thinking I had to be perfect,
Speaker 4: that I had to be the perfect mom, I had
Speaker 4: to keep the house looking perfect, I had to know
Speaker 4: what to do, and for me being able to with
Speaker 4: a lot of help with a psychiatrist, with my medication,
Speaker 4: able to learn to go. You know what, you don't
Speaker 4: have to be perfect, embrace your imperfection and then having
Speaker 4: a laugh at myself, so calling myself a crap housewife,
Speaker 4: posting to socials with the hashtag crap housewife. It then
Speaker 4: resonated with a whole lot of other people, because often
Speaker 4: when we're going through really hard times, you feel like
Speaker 4: it is only you, and all it takes is often
Speaker 4: to hear someone else also struggling, to go, oh, I'm
Speaker 4: not alone in this.
Speaker 1: It isn't it the weight that you feel, Oh, your
Speaker 1: shoulders incredible.
Speaker 4: And that was what happened with me. So with crap Housewife,
Speaker 4: I remember it began with social media through a conversation,
Speaker 4: As often things great things can come from conversation. And
Speaker 4: I was talking with a friend and our kids were similar,
Speaker 4: were of a similar age, and we were both really struggling.
Speaker 4: We were bored, like it's really boring with little kids.
Speaker 2: I can only imagine like keeping them alive and changing,
Speaker 2: and then when they're.
Speaker 4: Toddlers, it's like I just want to go to the
Speaker 4: park and SIT's in the sand pit. This is really boring.
Speaker 4: And so this particular friend was similar light minded to me,
Speaker 4: and I was like, have you seen these perfect meals
Speaker 4: and perfect lives that people are posting? And she's like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, yes, and I said, but that's not me.
Speaker 4: And there was a part of me that was thinking, oh, no,
Speaker 4: I'm not good enough. And then there was another part
Speaker 4: of me that got angry and thought, no, this is crap.
Speaker 4: I'm going to start posting to socials with the hashtag
Speaker 4: crap housewife. What I in fact cook for my family
Speaker 4: each night.
Speaker 2: If it's a bit bad, lots of burnt.
Speaker 4: Brown food, mince in all sorts of different guys is
Speaker 4: because you can never stuff up with mint mince. And
Speaker 4: then also to my messy house and my laundry baskets
Speaker 4: that would forever be an explosion of clothes that would
Speaker 4: just be at the bottom of the stairs.
Speaker 3: It's interesting that someone who's a self proclaimed crap house
Speaker 3: wife has now become the ambassador for Vanish laundry powder.
Speaker 3: I know, do they realize that they've backed someone who
Speaker 3: doesn't even like washing?
Speaker 2: Do they follow you?
Speaker 4: They are? And this is what is so spectacular is
Speaker 4: that being able to team up with Vanish. Their packaging
Speaker 4: is all this wonderful bright pink and they had this
Speaker 4: terrific new Vanish Gold pro which you can put in
Speaker 4: the wash thirty minutes twenty degrees, Celsius.
Speaker 2: That's the one I've got. It's good. Shit, it is good.
Speaker 4: Is it it any tough stain?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 1: You put back and white? Well you got to separate it,
Speaker 1: of course, yes, yes.
Speaker 4: Well it's not really miney? Sorry here am I saying you?
Speaker 4: How dare I laundry shame you? The only reason, Mitch,
Speaker 4: that I actually know that is because Pdi, my husband,
Speaker 4: he is a whiz in the laundry, so it's actually
Speaker 4: it's his job. So he's pretty excited by all the
Speaker 4: Vanish gold pro pink buckets everywhere because he is just
Speaker 4: on fire with the laundry. And what is also wonderful
Speaker 4: is he is pass that trait onto our eldest daughter, Alegra.
Speaker 4: She loves doing the laundry. You are living the dream.
Speaker 4: You've let that big time having people to do it
Speaker 4: for you exackly. They both have it covered. Giselle, who's fifteen.
Speaker 4: Even though she's very organized, she's messier like me. She's
Speaker 4: someone who sort of just drops things. When you sort
Speaker 4: of drop as you.
Speaker 1: Go, undies go down and they stay down.
Speaker 4: Where they are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my pajamas every morning, I go to bed every night.
Speaker 1: Where the hell are my pajamas and they're always in
Speaker 1: the shower because I get up in the morning, I
Speaker 1: just drop my pajamas and I get straight at the
Speaker 1: shower and they stay on the floor.
Speaker 2: It's bad, Jess. It's no, it is not. It's real.
Speaker 4: It's you, And I think for all of us, what's
Speaker 4: so important to recognize is embrace who you are. Don't
Speaker 4: feel like you've got to fit into someone else's idea
Speaker 4: of what having a good life is all about, or
Speaker 4: being in a good relationship or whatever it might be.
Speaker 5: Just do you.
Speaker 4: Because it just when podcast by a couple of Midges.
Speaker 3: Suggests what was it like for you when you were
Speaker 3: in your twenties like we are, and you first moved
Speaker 3: out of home Because you say that you're messy, you
Speaker 3: hate chores, and so when you first moved out and
Speaker 3: you were.
Speaker 2: Offending for yourself, how did that go? I'm looking at
Speaker 2: you wincing right now.
Speaker 4: Well, I was a shocker. I mean I was of
Speaker 4: the general where the minute we could leave home, we
Speaker 4: left home. And so I left home at eighteen, and
Speaker 4: then I moved away to go to UNI and I
Speaker 4: was lived on campus for my first year, which was
Speaker 4: great because we had to eat campus food. It was
Speaker 4: pretty bad food, but I didn't.
Speaker 2: Have to cook perfect.
Speaker 4: Yeah, perfect. And then then I moved into a share
Speaker 4: household which was just the pits, like it was so
Speaker 4: grossy even for me, Like there was mold on the tiles, like.
Speaker 1: It was that's a word of passages, and it is,
Speaker 1: of course it is.
Speaker 2: House days.
Speaker 4: And I was lucky enough that I had some beautiful,
Speaker 4: generous friends who were far more responsible than me, who
Speaker 4: would actually use their money to buy food, whereas I'd
Speaker 4: use my money to buy shoes.
Speaker 2: And I'd thought of.
Speaker 4: Go, oh my god, because I had off study at
Speaker 4: the time, which was sort of the allowance that you
Speaker 4: get very meager amount from the government but was still great.
Speaker 4: But I'd blow it on a pair of shoes, and
Speaker 4: then I'd go, I do the same, Oh my goodness,
Speaker 4: what made week for the next weekend. So but my
Speaker 4: lovely friends they feed me. So I sort of I
Speaker 4: learnt via osmosis, but there is still that tendency in
Speaker 4: me not to be irresponsible but to splash out and
Speaker 4: and thank goodness for Petie because he makes sure the carriage.
Speaker 1: Is paid insurance.
Speaker 4: It's sure, it's But all of those practical things and
Speaker 4: is your license up to date, like all of those
Speaker 4: sort of adult things. Yeah, he does all that, whereas
Speaker 4: I I do like the show and he's like, no,
Speaker 4: this is not funny. We don't need the after dinner show.
Speaker 4: Like there's no you might think.
Speaker 1: We do Instagram live the after dinner show, Jess. We
Speaker 1: all want to see that.
Speaker 4: And your jokes, my mom jokes.
Speaker 2: I actually bought my mother that joke book for Mother's Day.
Speaker 2: Actually got a huge.
Speaker 1: Jane Coombs, Mitch's mother is one of the biggest jets
Speaker 1: row for even I know it that she adores you.
Speaker 2: I don't want to put you on the spot. But
Speaker 2: she's daying with me at the moment. She's outside. Can
Speaker 2: I bring Yeah, that will make her day. Yeah, she's
Speaker 2: daying with me at the moment. Yeah, Okay, I'll go
Speaker 2: get Jane.
Speaker 1: Jane, she's she's from Bogan Gate.
Speaker 2: Which I've driven.
Speaker 4: I've been there at boken Gate.
Speaker 1: Put a pinion bog and gad missus.
Speaker 2: Jane, I'm so expectives in here.
Speaker 4: I come and give you a heart.
Speaker 1: Oh she's stuked be.
Speaker 4: Wake up to every morning.
Speaker 1: I wake up to every morning.
Speaker 4: Oh that's so special.
Speaker 5: You're honesty and you're.
Speaker 1: Just doan'e go on the microphone, you can have a chat.
Speaker 2: I want to act.
Speaker 3: We ask you, Jess, because mum lives in bogen Gate.
Speaker 3: That's where I grew up. And Mum got the shock
Speaker 3: of her life when she saw you post on Instagram
Speaker 3: You in Boga Gate.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I told you ton't said, oh my god,
Speaker 5: she's near the sign and I didn't know. I would
Speaker 5: have been in there. She was going to condo c
Speaker 5: w A.
Speaker 4: Was there and I had the best time there. But
Speaker 4: I wish i'd known you then, Jane, because I would
Speaker 4: have loved.
Speaker 2: To stop off.
Speaker 5: You would have come to the bogen Gate or out
Speaker 5: to the farm.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, you need to check your car for an
Speaker 1: air tag. I think Jane's there. Oh this is great.
Speaker 4: Back to the microphone, but I just want to.
Speaker 2: Keep giving you means so much.
Speaker 4: You must be so proud of your son.
Speaker 5: Oh I am so proud of Yeah. But I'm like
Speaker 5: the boy from bogen Gate and these guys like they're
Speaker 5: just amazing every day.
Speaker 4: But what a beautiful mum you are. Tell me then,
Speaker 4: what's because my daughters they're fifteen and seventeen now.
Speaker 2: And I was a bit of a nightmare at that age.
Speaker 5: I yes, Mitchell has always been my special one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you can just take we No, no, not
Speaker 2: at all.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I just love seeing your daughters doing so well. They
Speaker 5: were doing a modeling, just looking so stunning.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know why. It just sort of makes
Speaker 5: me really happy.
Speaker 2: And she loved the joke book I got her.
Speaker 5: And the clothes on this complete bogan.
Speaker 4: Your fabulous country road, which is so cool. Yeah, country road.
Speaker 5: I'm usually in my gloody farm clothes and you and
Speaker 5: your beautiful, bright, colorful clothes.
Speaker 1: But you don't have to compare, Jane. You do completely
Speaker 1: different people, you know, and look you can still connect
Speaker 1: over being Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's I think you know what it's about too,
Speaker 4: I believe. And I was chatting earlier like I love
Speaker 4: getting older and I find the older I get, I
Speaker 4: care less about all the naysayers out there, definitely, And
Speaker 4: I'm more and more keen to tap into joy. What
Speaker 4: is it that brings me joy? It makes to your heart?
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's so true, like you just don't care
Speaker 5: as much as you used to about what people think
Speaker 5: about you, what they say about you, and to me,
Speaker 5: that's the only good thing about getting older. Nana like
Speaker 5: that is like, yeah, both niches will tell you that, Yeah,
Speaker 5: Nana's love being uncle.
Speaker 1: Now I just had a niece, Mitch just had a
Speaker 1: Niece's worn ages?
Speaker 4: And is it different because I'll often hear people say
Speaker 4: that being a grandmother is different to being a mum,
Speaker 4: that the sort of love you feel is different or
Speaker 4: is it the same for you?
Speaker 5: I guess it's a different sort of joy. Maybe it's
Speaker 5: a more relaxing mom because with the grandchildren, it's just, oh,
Speaker 5: you are so cute. What they've got a problem deal
Speaker 5: with that parent?
Speaker 2: They're just cute.
Speaker 4: Yeah. That is the thing is that I and I
Speaker 4: hadn't realized this until I became a mum, was that
Speaker 4: you never stopped being a mum in the sense of
Speaker 4: you're never there yet, your kids are never there yet.
Speaker 4: And each step that my girls go through, I'm along
Speaker 4: with them and I want to if I can fix something.
Speaker 4: I'm a terrible helicopter parent. I still I try not
Speaker 4: to be, but I do. It means like I hover
Speaker 4: around around too much a bit. I'm like there and
Speaker 4: like I shouted people on escalectors.
Speaker 2: Once.
Speaker 4: No, because there was one time like when people and
Speaker 4: I'm sure Jane you could relate to this, when people
Speaker 4: are unkind to your kids.
Speaker 3: Oh that is like Mama, oh look out poor rather
Speaker 3: up at the TikTok comments exactly.
Speaker 4: And and there was this particular time when I was
Speaker 4: on the escalators with my daughters. Were going up the
Speaker 4: escalators and then there was some kids at the bottom
Speaker 4: of the escalators, similar age, but I could see that
Speaker 4: they were talking about the girls and giving them not
Speaker 4: very nice looks. So we went up and then I went,
Speaker 4: I hope everyone's being kind and my girls are going, oh,
Speaker 4: mom're doing But I'm like, no, like, I'm not going
Speaker 4: to have that's so obviously people being mean.
Speaker 2: Yes in that way.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you definitely have this some that mama bear protective thing. Definitely.
Speaker 2: I'm going to let you keep chatting motherhood off the cloud.
Speaker 1: Sorry to kick you out show. No, it's all right.
Speaker 1: The show's ending, and at this rate we won't have
Speaker 1: any time for any other episode.
Speaker 5: One thing that I'd like all my children here and
Speaker 5: then I'll let you to get on to other things
Speaker 5: that they will always be the first people we think
Speaker 5: about out when we wake up. Where has this come
Speaker 5: from but the last people we think about when we
Speaker 5: go to sleep forever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that no, I'm sort of on the periphery
Speaker 1: of that.
Speaker 2: She thinks of you around lunchtime.
Speaker 4: But Jane beautifully said, and you're so right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, when they grow up and leave home and you'll
Speaker 5: have that sad, hard part to do with.
Speaker 4: Well, it's that silver thread, isn't it That forever connects
Speaker 4: you to your kids and that can never be broken.
Speaker 5: That's right, Yeah, even yet though I'm in bogenate and
Speaker 5: they're miles away. Sorry to keep bringing that.
Speaker 1: Let's finish this episode then you can.
Speaker 2: I'll get a gorgeous photo of you two once we're yeah.
Speaker 4: Oh, right back at you, Jane, your mum is heaven.
Speaker 4: And for me, though, my heart is full after meeting
Speaker 4: your mum, because life is all about connection and if
Speaker 4: we can connect with one another, it makes such a difference.
Speaker 4: That to me is the stuff of life. So that's
Speaker 4: made my day, my week, my everything.
Speaker 1: I have to Bill though, with telehealth or something that
Speaker 1: was very therapy towards me.
Speaker 2: I expecting that. M Lase, she goes, oh, I'll talk
Speaker 2: to Jess. I'm come see the studio. Oh, jess will
Speaker 2: be very interesting. Okay, and then.
Speaker 3: Can we do one more thing with you before you go,
Speaker 3: oh yes, this feels bloody. It's stupid to do this
Speaker 3: now because we just got real deeper. It's not that deep,
Speaker 3: but you see that's I love that though. I like
Speaker 3: to have the big, deeper meaningfuls. But then we've got
Speaker 3: to have a laugh.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 1: So what we're doing now is it's silly and stupid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you are the Vanish ambassador and also a
Speaker 3: crap housewife.
Speaker 2: We just want to see.
Speaker 3: Okay, how well do you really know washing machines and
Speaker 3: the whole laundry process? Are you an expert? You know
Speaker 3: that there's two kinds, the top loaders and the front loaders.
Speaker 2: Yes, ah, yes I do.
Speaker 3: Okay, great, So we're going to play some audio of
Speaker 3: washing machines and you have to guess top or bottom.
Speaker 3: So this everyone's top or bottom with Jessica.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: Are you ready?
Speaker 1: I'm ready? Okay, okay, a game about laundry. This is
Speaker 1: laundry top or bottom, Jessica, row, top or bottom?
Speaker 2: That's top? Correct? Wow, I was thinking bottom.
Speaker 1: Just the witness of Mitchell.
Speaker 4: No, I'm just because the top machine it's noisier.
Speaker 1: There's a drum.
Speaker 2: Yes. What about this one? Top or bottom?
Speaker 4: That's bottom? I reckon?
Speaker 3: Correct, God, Jessica, an experts, Vanish are going to go through.
Speaker 1: Vanish chosen the right ambassador.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. What about the next one? I reckon that's.
Speaker 4: Top bottom, like the water going in from the top.
Speaker 2: You know what that is though?
Speaker 1: I think that's a power bottom. I think because it
Speaker 1: sounds like it's got a bit more you know, guts
Speaker 1: more drum in. I was picturing the drum too, jets.
Speaker 2: What about this one? Oh, top or bottom, Jessica, that's top,
Speaker 2: Benash's right.
Speaker 1: That sounds like my childhood top.
Speaker 4: It does when I was a kissing and when you
Speaker 4: put too many towels or something in there, and it
Speaker 4: would like they get all stuck and you'd have to.
Speaker 3: I mean, so far, you're doing pretty bloody well. I've
Speaker 3: got one more. Okay, top or bottom?
Speaker 4: Are gonna say?
Speaker 2: Bottom?
Speaker 4: Nah?
Speaker 2: That's the top? Hey, three out of five, that's a past.
Speaker 1: That's a part you can talk about the Vanish check.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much, and thank you to Vanish goldpro.
Speaker 2: Yes, get it in there, just one more thing before
Speaker 2: you go.
Speaker 3: Oh of course I know that you don't like smart
Speaker 3: a lot, But we ask every guest the same question.
Speaker 3: They add to our list. It's just a little thing
Speaker 3: in life. You appreciate something that brings you joy. Because
Speaker 3: our younger listeners, we don't want them going down that
Speaker 3: path of debauchery. I'm obsessed with partying and boys. So
Speaker 3: it's like a good crunch of an apple. Yeah, stepping
Speaker 3: on a crunchy autumn leaf, something like that, Angela Bishop said,
Speaker 3: her waterbed.
Speaker 2: That's a main Brook said, eating streaky bacon in bed.
Speaker 3: The reason that I'm reluctant to bring it up is
Speaker 3: because it's called the list of things better than drugs
Speaker 3: and dick Anyway, come on.
Speaker 2: Just as aaquito bar?
Speaker 4: Oh I love a jaquito bar? Can I read my
Speaker 4: kindle at night in bed? Oh?
Speaker 2: Jaquito bar?
Speaker 1: I don't know if I know what alack an orange
Speaker 1: black with orange font orange?
Speaker 2: Yes, well you go font.
Speaker 5: Know what I mean?
Speaker 4: But that's like so young person is yeah, like all
Speaker 4: the font I get all excited over the new font
Speaker 4: on like Instagram. I'm like, oh, look at that one.
Speaker 2: Look at that.
Speaker 1: That confuses the hell out of me. Instagram.
Speaker 2: He found old. Now I'm like, no, why do they
Speaker 2: keep changing things?
Speaker 1: Do you want to put the photo behind to the
Speaker 1: photo in front?
Speaker 4: I'm like, this is Instagram works a lot about who
Speaker 4: you are?
Speaker 5: You you.
Speaker 1: I think jets Row is like Windings, you know, like
Speaker 1: you do like Mitchell. You're not Calibri or Ariel. I'm
Speaker 1: talking fonts here.
Speaker 2: All the graphic is comic sans yes, very comic sans see.
Speaker 1: Jenna, you are a gorgeous I think like an arial,
Speaker 1: like a like a like a classic. You're timeless classes,
Speaker 1: you know. And then I think Jess is Windings. Windings
Speaker 1: is that font which is just eccentric and aclectic.
Speaker 4: So I can't see. I haven't got my glasses. I'm
Speaker 4: doing that squinting old person.
Speaker 1: What is this incredible?
Speaker 2: Thank you so much?
Speaker 4: I want to keep talking.
Speaker 2: I mean, Jane's waiting outside.
Speaker 1: You'll be talking, don't you anytime soon? Jess ro also
Speaker 1: the Gestro a big chat show you can get just
Speaker 1: obviously podcast Yeah, wherever you get your podcasts?
Speaker 2: Is that the big talk show? Not big oh sorry,
Speaker 2: big talk show.
Speaker 4: Here's ma. I'm just nodding at you, going yeah, big radio.
Speaker 4: I just speak big the gest Ro, big talk show, I.
Speaker 1: Said, big chat show. Sorry Jess, you put in big
Speaker 1: and then come up. That's after many tea but see
Speaker 1: that's I'm glad we finally did that.
Speaker 2: Mitch that thanks so much.
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you all. I love this is It
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