WEBVTT - GUEST: Jess Rowe 🐱 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:04.200 Is it just me the rude shocks of young adulthood? 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:05.320 Okoy? 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:08.080 Do have time to hear from today's guest on the podcast, 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:09.360 the one and only Jessica Rowe. 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:10.600 We're big fans of her work. 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:13.360 She's been on our TV screens for years and now 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:14.080 on our TikTok. 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:15.120 She's a bloody hoot. 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:16.079 She's the best. 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:18.360 We spoke to her the other day and I decided 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:20.279 to organize a little surprise for my mother. 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:22.560 Jane who is who was in town? Yeah, she was 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:24.360 saying with me. She's a big fan of Jests Row, 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:26.240 so I brought her in to meet her. So cute. 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:27.639 Wait till you hear the reaction. 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:28.200 Yeah. 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:31.160 Yeah, Honestly, it was so over the top. I wasn't expecting. 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:33.279 I didn't know that my mother was that melodramatic, but. 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:35.720 It was adorable. We loved having Jests in the studio. 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:37.600 Bill love it. If you don't know who Jesse is 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:39.560 TV icon, been in the media in the country for 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:43.120 a long time. A very funny, very enigmatic, eclectic. 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:45.839 Woman, very much herself one of a kind. Loved it. 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:47.279 Are here to go? This is us with jess Row. 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:50.720 Good evening. I'm Jessica Road. 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:54.760 Watch me write Jessica Row. They're everywhere at the moment. 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:56.840 This is a moment that we've been waiting for, personally 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.440 Mitchell for such a xt moment bucket and as you know, 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:03.800 the show is the show's terminal. We're in our dying months. 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:05.680 So what we're trying to do is tick off some 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:08.160 items from our bucket list. Many things live on that 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:10.559 bucket list. But I was only talking last week about 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:11.839 how I hate having guests on the show. 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:14.640 Yeah, I don't know where that came from. No, sure, 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:17.200 our next guest is not one of those people that 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:18.160 is my next point. 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:21.880 No, this guess is the exception because they are so talented, 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:23.720 they're one of the warmest people in the industry. We 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:26.120 adore the Mitchell since before we even had a show. 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:27.640 One of my favorites of all time. 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:31.560 Hilarious fun, she's a mum TV presenter, she's one of 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:33.640 the one of the hottest couples in Australia. She's a 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:34.080 cat lover. 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:35.320 It is just right. 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:40.839 Well, I just feel so lucky being here. I instantly 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:44.720 feel cooler I do. I feel like my if there's 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:47.720 such a thing, my cool radar is like you're all up. 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:50.000 Or that's what they say. You've got aller points from 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:50.360 being here. 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:52.240 I mean, as far as outfits go, you take the 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:52.880 cool cake. 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:56.280 Yeah, I feel so underdressed next to Jessica by justice, 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:57.680 But where do you even buy tool Like? 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:01.280 This is my confetti jacket and I had to bring 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:04.840 the confetti the party for all of you. I love 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:07.880 an outfit. I normally, as you know, like to incorporate 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:10.920 a cat something in my outfit, but I haven't today. 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:11.800 I'm sorry. 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:15.000 Okay, Now we need to address this, this romance because 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:16.839 Mitch and I walk up and you know a couple 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.080 of mitches, Mitch and Mitch. People go love the Mitch's 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:21.200 and we walk up, jess pushes us to the side, 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:23.239 tackles Jenna to the ground. 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:26.799 It goes it's you get these two clowns and Jenna 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:28.720 she's got We were the assistance. 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:30.160 What is going on here? 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:34.840 I'm so excited to see Jenna in this guys, because 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:38.919 we bonded over pussy cats were crazy cat ladies. And 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:42.160 when I was doing a fill in shift for Jonesy 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:47.799 and Amanda filling Amanda's very big shoes, jennerally chatting and 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:51.600 we were talking about cats, and I've got cat suits, 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:53.680 boxes of them at home merch. 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:54.400 Course you do. 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:57.079 Yeah, And as soon as I saw photos of them, 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:59.600 I was like, I have to because I love pilates 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:01.840 so and I love cats. 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:02.880 And I love j Son. 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:03.600 Wear it to pilarate. 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:06.440 I've not seen this cat suit? Is it Pilarti's appropriate. 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:10.080 It's very pilati is appropriate. Okay, it's a onesie so 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:12.920 it's all in one. And why it's great for pilarates 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:16.639 or any kind of exercise really is it covers everything 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:19.040 so nothing hangs out. Oh I love that, and it's 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:21.320 got the pictures of smiling cats all over it. 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:24.360 I've just had a Google and you all, but I 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:26.560 was picturing. I was picturing some fairy ship, you know 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:26.880 what I mean. 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:29.240 I was picturing furries too, like Marti Gras, you know. 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:30.320 Like a furbie. 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:34.440 Oh no, yeah, kind of Oh but there It's. 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:35.800 Like, Okay, that's right. 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:36.480 It gets going. 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:38.880 It's not this, No, it's not, but it does get 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:39.360 me going. 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:39.760 Where is. 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:45.640 Yeah, we are very excited to have you here because 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:47.800 Mitch and I and Jenna, I suppose we are like 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:51.600 TV as I remember, surely you guys remember too, like 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:55.320 the golden days of Channel ten. It was Jez throw 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.320 and Ron Wilson on the NUS, The Simpsons neighbors. Oh, 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:01.080 you were just glued to Channel ten back in the day. 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:01.520 Five. 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:05.880 Yesaltic about it, but I reckon now, you kind of 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:08.040 be glad that you're not in a news three to job, right, 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:10.760 because you're not able to show a lot of personality 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:11.440 and something like that. 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:15.840 Not at all. And I loved at the time being 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:17.920 like a news presenter in a vertal columnies. 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:18.880 You were bloody good at it. 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:20.560 It's so good. Oh thank you. 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:22.440 But that was not the true jest that we know. 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:25.680 But also the point is it wasn't It wasn't all 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:29.720 of me. And I think when I began as a journalist, 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:31.599 I was very you know, I thought I had to 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:34.520 be serious. So I had these ideas I was going 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:38.440 to be an overseas correspondent, and I was very and 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:40.520 was it a time when you had to just be 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:43.480 one thing. I'm going to be a serious journalist. I'm 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:46.520 a news presenter, so therefore I have to always be serious. 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:50.680 But my favorite story every night was the panda story, 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:55.480 the obsessed with pandas, and that was forever my goal 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:57.880 that we have to see we need a panda story. 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:00.920 And in literally a panda story, or just the term 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:03.080 they use for something light and fluffy, or it could 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:04.160 be the cut up the tree. 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:07.960 Yeah story, but I know it was legitimately we need 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:11.479 a panda story. So every night that was one of 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:13.719 the producer's jobs and we come up with all the 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:17.960 different you know, pandemonium and all of those kind of cliches. 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:20.039 But that was my highlight because I could show a 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:21.200 bit of my personality. 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:23.480 How do I go? And this is good for the 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:25.320 young listeners who are in their one line of work 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:26.680 and they're in their early twenties and they go, but 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:27.400 I kind of want. 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:27.560 To do this. 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:31.320 Is that your advice to start having little moments where 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:32.880 you're doing exactly what it is you want to do, 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:34.160 and then does that lead to more of that. 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:38.960 I'm always hesitant to sort of give advice because it's 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:44.080 different for everyone, and I think the key for all 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:45.840 of us stuff. Having said I won't give advice, I'll 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:50.520 give some advice I am a mama, is back yourself 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:54.440 and have a crack go for it. What is the 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:57.200 worst thing that can happen. I've had plenty of very 0:05:57.240 --> 0:06:00.599 public failures, but I don't regret them. I gave it 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:03.479 a go. So I think, don't be afraid, don't be 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:08.120 afraid of tapping into what is it your heart is 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:12.120 telling you, or ignore the logical part because sometimes we 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:15.440 can logic things away. Oh no, no no, but just 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:18.880 go for it. And it's when I've had those leaps 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:21.840 of faith that I've learnt the most, and it's been 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.120 the best thing of Also, I think if for people listening, 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:26.560 don't be afraid and just go for it. 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:26.960 Yeah. 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:29.960 Literally, my therapist is always encouraging me. Don't forget to 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:32.400 be playful. Just because you're an adult now, it doesn't 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:35.839 mean you can't be playful. You have fun, and that 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:36.320 is the point. 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:36.480 Though. 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:38.760 I think the older I get, because I'm now fifty four, 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:45.520 my botox though that helps me. But the older I get, 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:47.320 the more playful I am. 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:52.920 We've noticed drecon that all started on Studio ten, where 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:54.240 you were allowed to have a bit more fun. 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:56.960 It wasn't serious journalism. You got to show the true 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:58.000 quirky Jess. 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:02.039 I think that was definitely the more public side of 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:07.400 people seeing the more play for me, whereas they'd always 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:10.360 been that part of me that my friends knew that 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:13.440 would be love a costume and dress up and miss 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:16.840 silly like I remember many years ago a friend of 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:18.880 mine for her Hens night. She was like, I don't 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:20.720 want a Hens night. We're not doing it. I said, no, 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:23.960 you have to. You got to do it. And she 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:26.760 was like, no strippers, none of that. I said, I 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:29.280 promise you there'll be none of that, no silliness. But 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:31.960 her name was Georgie, and it was like, we have 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:35.240 to come as something, dressed as g that was my idea. 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:42.160 So I went as a gorilla costume and she and 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:44.800 her now husband, they he picked us up to drop 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:47.000 us to the restaurant where we were all going, and 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:50.240 she just saw this gorilla and she started going no, no, 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:52.720 because she thought it was like a gorilla gram or something. 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:53.840 I didn't realize it. 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:54.360 She did. 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:55.200 It was me. 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:59.240 She looked down and she saw my leopard Prince stilettos. 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:05.640 Then that's jes So. I think there's always been that 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.920 playful part of me totally. But what, yes, what I 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:11.600 loved about doing Studio ten was that I could be 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:16.000 truly myself and so I could be silly and like 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:19.440 dresses a fart. I mean I dressed as a farmer. 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:26.160 What was the reason there was some dress? Was? It 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:30.080 was Halloween and you know and craft. I've always loved 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:31.880 craft since I was a little girl. I like to 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.559 fashion a costume or a hat or something. And I 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:37.720 crafted this amazing sort of head dress on a headband 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:40.520 and I had brown chewl and yellow chewl and green 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:43.319 chewel and Peedie. My husband, he's lying next to me 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:46.839 in bed and he's saying, what are you doing? And 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:48.680 he calls me pussy cat, pussy cat, what. 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:49.079 Are you doing? 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:51.920 And I said, I'm making a fart cosstumee. 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:54.160 I bet he wasn't even that shock. 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:59.400 He wasn't because he basically said, you get more eccentric 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:03.680 old you get. So he rolled over and back to sleep. 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:07.120 So I'm stitching away and so the next morning, and 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:09.880 I didn't. I wanted to surprise everyone, so I scurried 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:12.120 out at the end. And I remember I sat next 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:14.800 to ite Buttros and she just looked at me and 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:15.240 she was like. 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.520 Who are you? What are you? And I said, what 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:19.520 do you come dressed there? 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:20.640 Brilliant? 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.559 I'm a fat And she looked at me and she 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:28.160 was like why And I said why not? And to me, 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:31.040 though I think that's a really great philosophy for life. 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:34.160 When I come at you for certain things, I'll say 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:36.839 why would you do that? And I just thought, well, 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:40.760 why not? Where am I ever going to get the 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:44.439 chance to dress as a fart on national television and 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:45.120 have a laugh? 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:47.880 And now you can say you've done that because how 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:49.920 many people can exactly? 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:51.880 I need a photo of the fart that's. 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:55.640 Online? Yeah? Just is it? 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:57.400 Does it upset you to see. 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:00.240 Where TV is, TV ratings and traditional TV and where 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:02.400 you come from? But then looking at me, Studio ten 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:04.880 no longer with us RP, we try to interrupt it. 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:11.520 That's the fart, there's the Greek because. 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:19.439 God the green. That's as you were saying, how do 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:21.559 you feel with our day to TV? I mean it's sad. 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:26.360 It makes me sad. And what makes me sad is 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:32.199 that there's so many fabulous, creative people who work in television, 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:35.599 and because it is changing so much, it's sort of 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.679 will where can we all go? But I suppose what 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.839 makes me sad is the lack of imagination. When it 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:46.320 comes to free to wear television, it's let's recycle same 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:49.560 old formulas because people don't want to take a risk 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:54.360 and it's expensive. So that's the part that makes me sad. 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:56.840 I feel that. I mean, but then you've got influences, 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:58.880 and you've got social media, like you you are skyro 0:10:59.040 --> 0:10:59.880 what are your social numbers? 0:10:59.920 --> 0:11:01.439 And they'd be through the roof, become a bit of 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:02.280 a TikTok start. 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:07.120 You're so good on TikTok. I've got to get back 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:10.640 onto the tiktoking. So stopped, Well, no, I haven't stopped, 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:14.679 but it takes time. So I've got people will look 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:16.520 at my phone and they go, how come you have 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:20.719 got like a thousand unready emails and pictures and all 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:22.959 this stuff. So I filmed all these things, but I 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:25.679 need to sit down and and my daughter's tease Mex, 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:28.880 I need glasses. And I'm there like breathing heavily through 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.960 my nose as I'm like scrolling and then cutting little 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:34.600 clips on my phone to put onto things. And then 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:37.720 I'll say what's the music? And they're like, mom, if 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:41.000 you even have to ask that question, don't put music 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:43.640 on this. And I was like, well, what's the trend? 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:47.040 Because if you're asking for the trend, it's gone. 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:49.320 It's past, has happened, it's gone. 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.920 But I enjoy. What I like about TikTok is it's 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:56.240 another form of storytelling, and I'm very much sort of 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:59.080 what you will do around the microphone. You're sharing stories 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:02.240 and that's really how we connect with people. So even 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:04.800 though you asked, Mitch, you know, how do you feel 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:06.760 to feel sad about what's happening with Telly? 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:07.079 Is? 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:09.760 Yes, there's a part of me that is, but there's 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:13.559 still all these really exciting ways of storytelling which is 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:16.880 far more accessible to a whole lot more people. 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:18.680 And that that's great. 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:23.480 My though for you, page, your feed, whatever you call it, 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:30.720 there's a lot of blackhead extraction satisfying you just. 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:34.120 Do you and do you? 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:36.880 Because some couples love to pop each other's pimples, Like 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:38.760 my partner will love to pop my pimples, and I 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:41.480 think it's a bit gross, and I'm like, yeah, I've 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:42.839 got some friends who are like, I don't want to 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:45.439 touch my partners people. Would you ever give you know, 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:47.120 Pete had a black head? Would you get it for him? 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:47.600 Well? 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:54.640 No, not now watching And also there's you see, we're older, 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:58.520 so we don't really get the blackheads. We had the 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:02.000 larger pause. As my daughters like to remind me when 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.040 I left here to talk to you, or they're like, Mum, 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:07.120 you need some powder really, yes, but I didn't put 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:09.720 powder on because I think it accentuates pause. When can 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:11.839 get older, well then thank you. I'll say that to 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:14.400 my girls are like, Mum, you're paws. But yeah, with 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:17.160 Pete and I, we don't really have the blackheads so 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:17.960 much anymore. 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:22.199 So that's great blackheads. Hello, look at all of your 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.720 full skin or death. 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:30.960 It was so smooth, sure, and your hair like it's so. 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:34.199 It's not what I gotta say. I look at people 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:37.080 like you with short hair, and I go, fuck, your. 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:39.559 Life must be easier of the mine. Every day it 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:41.520 crosses my mind, should I just bloody chop it off? 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:43.319 Do you have to blow it right every day? 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:46.480 Not every day? But sometimes it's just a lot of work. 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:48.400 It's too high maintenance. 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:49.760 Sometimes, especially washing it. 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:52.560 I can't yours down to your ass crack. You need 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:53.480 to find a middle ground. 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.360 It is lovely, but I would never have the you 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:01.120 see the patience for long hair. I've had short hair, oh, 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:05.520 since I was I Reckon eighteen nineteen, same hairdresser for 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:09.679 over thirty years. Let anyone else touch my hand I 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:12.000 followed him to all the different salons he's gone too, 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:14.640 and we have this ongoing joke where every time I 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:16.719 sit in his chair, I say, can we have the 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:20.840 hair talk? He's like, okay, but what is there to 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:24.600 talk about? You just want the same Yeah. And also 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.560 what I like to do now is, although it's a 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:29.480 bit boring at the moment, is to mix it up 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:30.160 with the color. 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.200 Yeah, you've had pink care for a little bit, and pink. 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:36.800 I've done pink. I've done coral, coral coral, or a 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:40.800 pale rock melon. I did a but Petie, my husband 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:43.480 was like, oh, pussy cat, I have to take you 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:48.240 to the retirement village. Hey, oh I hat didn't like it, no, 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:52.280 because he was literally like, oh, this is a like 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:53.320 a blue rinse. 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:55.480 This is something old ladies do, right, because that's the 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:57.320 only color that attaches to gray hair. 0:14:57.440 --> 0:14:59.760 Yeah, Oh is that really know that? Yes? Blue and 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:03.400 per a purple, Yeah, which is why they do it. Yes, 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:08.440 I didn't know that a big color. Yeah, it looks great. Oh, 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:08.800 thank you. 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:10.600 But I do need to mix it up again with 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:13.640 a bit of color. So whenever I go to the hairdresser, PETI, 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:16.160 he looks at me like, what color are you doing? 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:20.040 I say to him, all right, Pete, I'm going boring 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:23.880 labrador color for you, crazy color next. 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:27.480 I do love hearing all the stories about Petie being 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:31.320 so patient with you, especially all the crap housewife stuff, 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:33.760 because not only I've made it no secret that you 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:36.320 are a crap housewife, but you completely embrace it. 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:39.800 It's actually genius. It's my brain now. I can't be 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:42.040 expected to be good at this hair exactly. 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:46.320 And what I had not expected was that by embracing 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:50.960 being a crap housewife, by embracing my imperfection, that it 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:54.480 would resonate with so many other people and for me, 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:59.360 because I had terrible postnatal depression after the birth of 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:02.480 both of my girls, and it was particularly bad after 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:06.240 I had Allegro, who's now seventeen, and so much of 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:08.880 that was tied up with thinking I had to be perfect, 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:12.520 that I had to be the perfect mom, I had 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:15.040 to keep the house looking perfect, I had to know 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:19.160 what to do, and for me being able to with 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:22.480 a lot of help with a psychiatrist, with my medication, 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.640 able to learn to go. You know what, you don't 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:29.440 have to be perfect, embrace your imperfection and then having 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:32.640 a laugh at myself, so calling myself a crap housewife, 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:37.040 posting to socials with the hashtag crap housewife. It then 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.880 resonated with a whole lot of other people, because often 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:42.640 when we're going through really hard times, you feel like 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:46.200 it is only you, and all it takes is often 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:50.080 to hear someone else also struggling, to go, oh, I'm 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:50.880 not alone in this. 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:53.120 It isn't it the weight that you feel, Oh, your 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:54.920 shoulders incredible. 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:57.160 And that was what happened with me. So with crap Housewife, 0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:01.479 I remember it began with social media through a conversation, 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:05.560 As often things great things can come from conversation. And 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:08.159 I was talking with a friend and our kids were similar, 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:12.040 were of a similar age, and we were both really struggling. 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:15.399 We were bored, like it's really boring with little kids. 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:18.840 I can only imagine like keeping them alive and changing, 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:20.600 and then when they're. 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:24.080 Toddlers, it's like I just want to go to the 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:28.639 park and SIT's in the sand pit. This is really boring. 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:32.760 And so this particular friend was similar light minded to me, 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:35.800 and I was like, have you seen these perfect meals 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.720 and perfect lives that people are posting? And she's like, 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:43.359 oh my god, yes, and I said, but that's not me. 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:46.159 And there was a part of me that was thinking, oh, no, 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:48.200 I'm not good enough. And then there was another part 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:50.800 of me that got angry and thought, no, this is crap. 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:54.080 I'm going to start posting to socials with the hashtag 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:57.800 crap housewife. What I in fact cook for my family 0:17:57.880 --> 0:17:58.400 each night. 0:17:58.640 --> 0:18:03.080 If it's a bit bad, lots of burnt. 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:07.159 Brown food, mince in all sorts of different guys is 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:09.840 because you can never stuff up with mint mince. And 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:14.520 then also to my messy house and my laundry baskets 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:18.640 that would forever be an explosion of clothes that would 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:20.560 just be at the bottom of the stairs. 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:24.240 It's interesting that someone who's a self proclaimed crap house 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:27.800 wife has now become the ambassador for Vanish laundry powder. 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:33.119 I know, do they realize that they've backed someone who 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:34.280 doesn't even like washing? 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:35.040 Do they follow you? 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:39.480 They are? And this is what is so spectacular is 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:42.760 that being able to team up with Vanish. Their packaging 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:45.960 is all this wonderful bright pink and they had this 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:49.440 terrific new Vanish Gold pro which you can put in 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:52.840 the wash thirty minutes twenty degrees, Celsius. 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:54.360