WEBVTT - Twinkle toes 👣

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<v Speaker 1>Hello. It's me Arts, Simone. I am colorful, interesting, talented,

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<v Speaker 1>and not to mention, gorgeous, and I know there's more

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<v Speaker 1>people like me out there in the world. They may

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<v Speaker 1>not just be as colorful and gorgeous as first glance.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of like a caterpillar in a cocoon, you know

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<v Speaker 1>how the cocoon is a yucky color and just a

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<v Speaker 1>bit gross looking, but really there's a beautiful butterfly inside,

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<v Speaker 1>or a deadly moth. They are the kind of people

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<v Speaker 1>I'm meeting with, and together we get to find out

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<v Speaker 1>what makes them interesting enough to be worthy of my time.

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<v Speaker 1>This is concealed with me Art, Simone. Let's meet a

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<v Speaker 1>weird little caterpillar. Roll the tape.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, I'm Tory. I'm from Victoria. I'm a mother of two.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been married for eight years and have been with

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<v Speaker 2>my husband for ten. You all going out and dancing,

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<v Speaker 2>so when I actually go out, I dance for hours

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<v Speaker 2>and hours. I'm concealing something from ten years ago that

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<v Speaker 2>only my husband knows and no one else that I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever met since.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, toy, how are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Hi?

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<v Speaker 1>Art?

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<v Speaker 2>No, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>This is really strange because you are in front of me,

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<v Speaker 1>but I cannot see you whatsoever. You are fully blurred

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<v Speaker 1>out of my brain. It's like it's like I've got,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, those drunk glasses on what they call them

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<v Speaker 1>when you meant to show you what it's like when

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<v Speaker 1>you're really boozy. I feel like I got those on

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<v Speaker 1>because I can't see a damn thing. But I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>you're as beautiful as you sound. Okay, So you like

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<v Speaker 1>to dance? I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now when you say you like to dance, is that

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<v Speaker 1>just like going out for a boogie on a Saturday night?

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<v Speaker 1>Or can you dance dance?

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<v Speaker 2>I can dance dance, not like a professional dancer, but

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<v Speaker 2>I can. I'm pretty close.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your favorite style of music to dance too?

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<v Speaker 2>Afrobeats? Oh and regaeton as well. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't really pick between the two.

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<v Speaker 1>Even know what they are, but they sound very cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you were going to say, maybe you know

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<v Speaker 1>like heavy metal or you know, dumb step. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You can only jump to that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's fun. It's like a lumber class. It's beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. So what you're consaling from me ten years

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<v Speaker 1>ago and only your husband would know? That's quite mysterious,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it. That's quite mysterious.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I'm going to do is ask you three questions,

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<v Speaker 1>and from the answers to those three questions, I am

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<v Speaker 1>going to try and work out what it is you're

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<v Speaker 1>concealing from me. Are you ready?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Question number one, if a song played every time you

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<v Speaker 1>entered a room, what would that song be?

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<v Speaker 2>The new one by Miley Cyrus. I can buy myself flowers.

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<v Speaker 2>I can really resonate with that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's strong independent Okay, flowers by Miley Cyrus. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>can buy myself flowers. My name in the same And

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<v Speaker 1>I like Marley Cyrus. I was a really big fan

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<v Speaker 1>of her when she was handing on Tanna back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day. Yeah, I loved her. I just wanted the

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<v Speaker 1>wig because it was a really good tubid hair. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just a side question in my brain. I'm okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Question number two, if money was no object, what would you.

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<v Speaker 3>Buy Red Ferrari A Ferrari Ferrari flowers, Ferrari ten years red.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm just painting the picture here. I do like roses, roses.

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking of poppies, but I was the Evans

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<v Speaker 1>ac day. I don't know what happened? Sorry, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>The third question we have is what is your life motto?

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<v Speaker 2>My life motto this quote that I found years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>I actually have that tattooed on me as well, completely

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<v Speaker 2>changed my life and my view on life as well.

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<v Speaker 2>It says life is a comedy for those who think,

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<v Speaker 2>and a tragedy for those who feel.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a very wordy quote. Actually is how much airye

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<v Speaker 1>does that take up on your body?

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<v Speaker 2>I tell you got it on my side.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, why is a comedy for those that think and

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<v Speaker 1>a tragy for those that feel. Okay, let's recap ten

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. Something that only your husband would know. That

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<v Speaker 1>rhymes flowers, strong, independent, Marley Cyrus Ferrari, red zum zum

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<v Speaker 1>car racing. Okay, and you like roses. I got that

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<v Speaker 1>in there too. And your life motto is laughing or

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<v Speaker 1>feeling Okay, flowers red flowers that go fast. What happened

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<v Speaker 1>ten years ago? Two thousand and thirteen? Where was I

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one? Traveling the world? Oh, it's a good time

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<v Speaker 1>to be alive. It went by myself got very lonely

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<v Speaker 1>halfway through though, maybe I was thinking a bit too much.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, feeling you were feeling too.

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<v Speaker 1>I was feeling too much. Sorry. Oh sorry, Luckily you've

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<v Speaker 1>got the quote on you and I go. I'd hope

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<v Speaker 1>you remember it. Okay, flowers, red flowers, going fast? All right, Tory?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you a florist?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I was an escort in my early twenties. I

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<v Speaker 2>did that for about seven years, on and off. I

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<v Speaker 2>started as a stripper, then I moved to escorting. I

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<v Speaker 2>also worked in a brothel. I met a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>different types of people. I'm at celebrities, bikis, dealers, scary people,

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<v Speaker 2>all different types of people. You can think of.

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<v Speaker 1>An escort escandalo seductive and a lot more interesting than

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<v Speaker 1>a florist.

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<v Speaker 2>Made a lot more money than.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh is it a florist? No, No, she's actually for

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<v Speaker 1>my escort. Oh that's a whole different type of rose bud.

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<v Speaker 1>So were you Victory and you were not a florist? No? No,

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<v Speaker 1>an escort? Previously an escorte previously an escort. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>would you say you're a retired escort? I would Can

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<v Speaker 1>you fully retire from being an escort?

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<v Speaker 2>Is?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what does that stick with your strat life? You

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<v Speaker 1>know the skills that you've learned as being as an

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<v Speaker 1>escort that you use in your everyday life. It could

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<v Speaker 1>be money management, it could be had a light up

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<v Speaker 1>a room. You know, what do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>I think maybe lighting up the room.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it could be one of the can command a space,

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<v Speaker 1>I think. So, yeah, we've got that in common.

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<v Speaker 2>If not here right now, because you are very intimidating.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if I could see you, I think I would

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<v Speaker 1>think you're just as intimidating. Okay, so you said you

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<v Speaker 1>started with stripping.

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<v Speaker 2>I did.

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<v Speaker 1>And how did you get into that first?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I actually struggled a little bit to pee my

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<v Speaker 2>rent and the guy I was renting from was an

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<v Speaker 2>ex and he suggested. He said, look, you're beautiful, you're young,

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<v Speaker 2>why don't you do a little bit of dancing? And

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, oh, okay, what's that. I've never been to

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<v Speaker 2>a strip club before, so I went and had to

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<v Speaker 2>look and spoke to the lady that was managing the girls.

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<v Speaker 2>She said, yeah, you'll do fine pretty much.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll go out the back. There's kind of different tears.

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<v Speaker 1>Right there's like bartenders he maybe topless, or there might

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<v Speaker 1>just be girls walking around the bikinis, and then there's

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<v Speaker 1>full dancing taking all your kid off. So do you

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<v Speaker 1>have to work up through the ranks to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to do that? Where they just go you could rent

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<v Speaker 1>the pile from three to five am have fun.

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<v Speaker 2>No, So you go in for like an introduction session

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<v Speaker 2>and she just shows you like how to dance and

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<v Speaker 2>how to move. Yeah, things like that, like the rules

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<v Speaker 2>as well, like the clients can't touch you and things

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<v Speaker 2>like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a big jump, you know, I've never done it

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<v Speaker 1>before and doing something on display for people. What was

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<v Speaker 1>that like for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was very nervous at first, but because it

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<v Speaker 2>was just like really confronting, but it was easy because

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<v Speaker 2>it was safe. It was actually nice. But I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>do it that for very long because once I made

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<v Speaker 2>the money I needed, I was done. But then I

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<v Speaker 2>kept going back to it because I enjoyed it, so

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<v Speaker 2>then I would go back to it when I needed

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<v Speaker 2>to work again. And at one point I did that

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<v Speaker 2>for probably about two years full time, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>got sick of it.

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<v Speaker 1>They're crazy like late nights, say, because I friends with

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<v Speaker 1>a few different escorts and strippers and they like go

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<v Speaker 1>to work and they started like two am and they

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<v Speaker 1>get out of it like daylight, it's crazy, yeah, or

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<v Speaker 1>they'll go for it and they'll do like a private

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<v Speaker 1>party on like a boat.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I actually just worked in the club Centerfold. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure if it's still there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I haven't been that so so you mostly

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<v Speaker 1>worked within the actual club. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I never went out, so I just pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>just worked there. I think it was Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday I would do and then the rest of the

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<v Speaker 2>time I just did nothing to spend the money, and

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<v Speaker 2>I just pampered myself, you know, getting myself ready for

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<v Speaker 2>the week.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you think working in that venue helped with confidence?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so. Yeah. Yeah, I think I was already

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<v Speaker 2>confident in a way, but it just made it just

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<v Speaker 2>boosted it. Yes, Like it boosted it a lot more.

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<v Speaker 2>And like with guys, like I could talk to all

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<v Speaker 2>different types of guys and like someone would walk in

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<v Speaker 2>and I would know if they're gonna like me or not,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it was worth approaching them or not. So things

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<v Speaker 2>like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Has that helped you further in life using those skills?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, definitely. So when I did escorting, that was

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<v Speaker 2>also very confronting at first, but then it actually became

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<v Speaker 2>very easy. I mean it was like a big step

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<v Speaker 2>because you actually had to allow yourself to be touched

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<v Speaker 2>and that sort of thing. So it was a bit

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<v Speaker 2>more full on. But when it came to reading people

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<v Speaker 2>and reading the room, I think that helped.

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<v Speaker 1>How did it then turn from stripping into escorting more money?

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<v Speaker 1>But did it just take some to offer that to

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<v Speaker 1>you and you go, actually, let's give it a shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Or was it an active decision where you're like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to start listing myself.

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<v Speaker 2>So I looked up actual agencies. So I actually worked

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<v Speaker 2>through an escort agency, so they had drivers. So still

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<v Speaker 2>again pretty safe.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any security when it comes.

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<v Speaker 2>To where you've got your driver? So the driver takes

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<v Speaker 2>you to the address and they wait there until you're done,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they take you back.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good. Yeah, I didn't know that was a service,

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<v Speaker 1>that's really it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure how it is now.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm glad it was a service for you at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, because I have a lot of friends that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, work in the industry, but they do everything

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<v Speaker 1>themselves in including the constant back and forth like admin,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just talking to someone that might just be

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<v Speaker 1>wasting your time because they're like, you know, wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>get their rocks off on the idea. It seems like

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<v Speaker 1>on paper like oh, an exciting life, but they're literally

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<v Speaker 1>just constantly like going back and forth with emails and

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get like a deposit or get this or

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<v Speaker 1>get that, or hoping that the address they show up

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<v Speaker 1>to be is actually you know real. Yeah. So did

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<v Speaker 1>being with an agency alleviate a lot of that for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the technology was different back then, so I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think what we can do now you could do then.

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<v Speaker 2>But back then, they would make out calls. They would

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<v Speaker 2>call out clients, especially if they had a new girl.

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<v Speaker 1>People on the books that they know are.

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<v Speaker 2>So they did all the work in the office.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you get on the books to them? Because

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<v Speaker 1>they sound quite fancy, you know, do you have to

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<v Speaker 1>like be like I'm really good, I swear, or like

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<v Speaker 1>here's a review? Do you have review? All?

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<v Speaker 2>They kind of I think it's like when you work

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<v Speaker 2>in the industry and you know guys. So they work

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<v Speaker 2>in that industry and they know girls they can trust

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<v Speaker 2>to send out or to certain clients, Like you couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>just send anyone, for example, to some of the celebrities

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<v Speaker 2>that I've seen through them, Yes, because you had to

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<v Speaker 2>send someone that wouldn't talk about it obviously or see

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<v Speaker 2>them privately or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, that's the thing too, that they don't want

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<v Speaker 1>you to start going directly to these clients, yes, to

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<v Speaker 1>take them out so that don't get their cut anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's right. So I just did it as jobs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I did it by the books. Honestly, that's just like

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<v Speaker 2>a more job.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you stop stripping and just escort?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I did that. So I stopped stripping, did

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<v Speaker 2>escorting for about two years I think, and then moved

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<v Speaker 2>on to a brothel because I got sick of being

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<v Speaker 2>driven around.

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<v Speaker 1>They can come to me, all right, I'll clock on

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<v Speaker 1>and they can come. They can knock on the door. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes complete sense. I'm with you. I just too

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<v Speaker 1>it all of last year for a different thing. But

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<v Speaker 1>I still I was like, I'm a bit bored.

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<v Speaker 2>Of this because some of them would be like about

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<v Speaker 2>forty minutes drive and I was like, oh, what am

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<v Speaker 2>I going to do in the car for forty minutes? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was really boring and they didn't get there to

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<v Speaker 2>second one, I did actually have a lot of games

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<v Speaker 2>on my phone and there would just be like for

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<v Speaker 2>one hour, like it wasn't worth it.

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<v Speaker 1>How does the dynamics of working with an agency versus

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<v Speaker 1>a brothel work?

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<v Speaker 2>So I preferred it, and I actually did that for

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<v Speaker 2>probably three four years in the brothel. Yeah, do you.

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<v Speaker 1>Get to have like your own room and say, that's

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<v Speaker 1>sign I've put my own decorations in there, that's my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite poster. Got me incense from the corner. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>nice ship. Maybe some like where wally puzzles to look

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<v Speaker 1>at when like, you know, they're going at it, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, I'm a bit bored, so you can keep

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<v Speaker 1>yourself occupied.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I wish it was, but no.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you know, like when you're at the dentist, sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in the dentist chair and then put something on the

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<v Speaker 1>roof to look at. Wouldn't it be good if they

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<v Speaker 1>could put something up there for you to look at,

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, in case you have to mentally remove

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<v Speaker 1>yourself from the from the situation. Yeah, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>in a brussel, do they just send in whoever you

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<v Speaker 1>get no say or do you get to come out

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<v Speaker 1>and like yeah, like yeah, no, maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a room where the client's go in. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the girls go in to meet them, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they're basically pick by seeing you, so they pick you. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So if I walk in.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck swiping left and right on Tinder.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if I walked in and I didn't get a

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<v Speaker 2>good vibe or something, or I knew them and they

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<v Speaker 2>were bad client from previously or something or heard something,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say I'm not available for this one, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they just crossed me off.

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<v Speaker 1>You touched on bad clients? Is that something that you

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<v Speaker 1>had to deal with?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't really. I was pretty luck, so I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really have a lot like really bad ones or scary ones.

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<v Speaker 1>So what would you say? Your largest demographic of clients

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<v Speaker 1>was no idea okay, cool? So it was so vast

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<v Speaker 1>and broad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so all different types. Like I wasn't peaky, so

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<v Speaker 2>I would see like, like I said, the only time

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't see someone if there was if I felt

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<v Speaker 2>like there was something off about them, Yeah, or there

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<v Speaker 2>would be like if there's like a fetish or something

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<v Speaker 2>that I just couldn't do. Yes, So something like that

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't go ahead with. But other than that, if

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<v Speaker 2>there was just a normal human being, I would be

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<v Speaker 2>happy to see them and yeah, give them a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah dang, but no, you touched on fetishes there. What

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<v Speaker 1>would you say the most like common fetish was for clients.

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<v Speaker 2>The one that I did the most was feet.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I see that. I know because people love feet.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a foot person, especially now I've got a

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<v Speaker 1>factured foot at the moment. It's ugly. Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>to look after your feet in a certain way for them?

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, well, you can have them as they are,

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<v Speaker 1>go for it. Love.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well you did you to like, you know, look

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<v Speaker 2>after yourself and be you know, have your hair done

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<v Speaker 2>and have your tan and have your nails done. So

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<v Speaker 2>they were done. I don't know, to like to a

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<v Speaker 2>normal standard. I guess like I still look after myself now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, no, because I have a friend who works

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<v Speaker 1>and they sometimes get paid to get like a pedicure

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<v Speaker 1>and the person just watches.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, oh I've never heard of that. That is

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<v Speaker 2>very easy.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. I need to get these clients down. Actually

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<v Speaker 1>that's themone ready to get her toes chopped. Okay, but

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<v Speaker 1>what are some of the more interesting kinks you've had

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<v Speaker 1>to partake in with clients.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this particular one I've only done once.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, would you do it again? No?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. If it was a lot of money, probably, Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy made me smoke a cigarette, which I was

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<v Speaker 2>smoking at the time anyway, I was a smoker, but

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<v Speaker 2>I would smoke it and I would ash in his mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And at the end I had to make him eat

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<v Speaker 2>the butt.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have to like dirty talk to him? Being like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you like that on your tongue, yeah, put it out.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was dirty talk all claws on. So there

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<v Speaker 2>was no intimacy with him whatsoever, except that it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is funny though. I hear a lot of stories from

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<v Speaker 1>people that work in the industry that like, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the time it is fully closed. And I have

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<v Speaker 1>some people that I know that only take those jobs

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<v Speaker 1>where they actually don't even get naked. But what the

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<v Speaker 1>interesting kinks and things that people need. They still need

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<v Speaker 1>like a sex worker to be able to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because they understand the game because maybe, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>the other person has their clothes off and they're enjoying it,

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<v Speaker 1>but good on them. It's like they're not hurting anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>So you also touched on celebrity clients.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think they use escorts because they can't go

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<v Speaker 1>out to a bar and pick up a girl and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like easier for them, is there? Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>the reasoning?

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<v Speaker 2>So you basically so you need body contact? Yes, So

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's more like instead of going through the

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<v Speaker 2>hussle of going out and picking up and then you're

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<v Speaker 2>having to exchange numbers or things like that, it's just easier.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a transaction. Yeah, it's just like be pretty

0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:04.200
<v Speaker 2>much like you're hungry, you buy yourself a burger and

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<v Speaker 2>you eat.

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<v Speaker 1>It, yep, and you're full. No, I totally agree, that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much it. People are busy, you know. Sometimes you

0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:13.440
<v Speaker 1>don't have time to go out and spend hours trying

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<v Speaker 1>to give someone the hairy and then it doesn't follow through.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh, I could have just sorted this out myself,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, And why not employ someone. You've got the money,

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<v Speaker 1>you spend.

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<v Speaker 2>It and you tell them exactly what you want, and

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<v Speaker 2>you'll be like, this is what I like, this is

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<v Speaker 2>what I want, and to do exactly that, and you

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<v Speaker 2>like satisfied. Because if you meet someone you take them home,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't tell them this is what I want.

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<v Speaker 1>True, that's like fourth date onwards. You're like, well, actually

0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:39.840
<v Speaker 1>those trinkle toes bring them over here?

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<v Speaker 2>Love?

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<v Speaker 1>You know you have to wait. No, it totally makes

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<v Speaker 1>sense now. I know you can't say anything. Yeah, of

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<v Speaker 1>course not no, But are we talking like you know

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<v Speaker 1>OUSI celebs were talking at sporting people. Are we talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what else? The type of slims?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they Aussie Salabs? Yeah? One of them. Actually we

0:17:57.600 --> 0:17:59.480
<v Speaker 2>actually see a lot on TV and every time he

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<v Speaker 2>comes on, just roll my eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, if only the world knew what he was into.

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<v Speaker 2>Ste I'm like, I was like, why do you have

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<v Speaker 2>to remind me of that night?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I was on your back ever again?

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<v Speaker 1>But can you tell us about your experiences with them?

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<v Speaker 1>Like did you get to go exciting penthouses or like

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<v Speaker 1>oh the Mile High Club? I don't know anything exciting.

0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:25.159
<v Speaker 2>So really most of them were in hotels.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the Crown Tair was love.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Crown Tower is a fair bit Pentown's there

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<v Speaker 2>only one of them. I went to his police only

0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:37.720
<v Speaker 2>one of them, which was a bit weird that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was allowed to go there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Do they make you sign NDAs or anything? Oh wow.

0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:44.520
<v Speaker 1>I think in this day and age they would because

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<v Speaker 1>what's stopping you from going and you know, saying things.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think also we're moving into a direction where

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<v Speaker 1>people don't really look down as much on either escorts

0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:58.359
<v Speaker 1>or people that use them. I'm not saying the world's

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<v Speaker 1>perfect and everyone's like, yeah, I love it. I did

0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:02.879
<v Speaker 1>you think we're moving in the right direction for acceptance

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<v Speaker 1>towards this industry.

0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.520
<v Speaker 2>I think we are, but it's still a bit slow

0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:09.440
<v Speaker 2>because I would have loved to have shown my face. Yes,

0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:12.080
<v Speaker 2>I would love for you to be able to see me. Yeah,

0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:13.480
<v Speaker 2>I wish a good move faster.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. What do you think the biggest stigma is

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<v Speaker 1>with the industry then, because I guess people just think

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<v Speaker 1>it's like this disgusting smutty you know, Oh you're all

0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:26.359
<v Speaker 1>dirty pervots. Oh I mean I don't think that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, it just all depends. Like all clients are

0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:31.919
<v Speaker 2>different and all girls are different as well, so like

0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:33.919
<v Speaker 2>some of them just treated as a job, just like

0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:36.600
<v Speaker 2>I did. So when I worked for the brothel, I

0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:40.560
<v Speaker 2>did like six nights a week, yeap, like just you know, straight,

0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:42.879
<v Speaker 2>and I only had like one night off. So I

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<v Speaker 2>just did it as a normal tired EXI well, I

0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:48.760
<v Speaker 2>did eight hours, so I'd start at eight o'clock at

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<v Speaker 2>night and i'd finish at like four or five in

0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:52.679
<v Speaker 2>the morning. Sometimes I start a bit later on the

0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:55.440
<v Speaker 2>weekends and finish at six o'clock in the morning. My goodness.

0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:57.800
<v Speaker 2>So it was just like a normal eight hour shift.

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<v Speaker 1>But at not it's just a shift worker. It's like,

0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:03.359
<v Speaker 1>that is a lot of exercise though.

0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:05.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, a lot of on your feet. I was

0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:11.960
<v Speaker 2>so fit, and a lot of squatting, you know, my

0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:15.080
<v Speaker 2>glutes and ever. I was like, oh yeah, it could

0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:18.720
<v Speaker 2>have been hot to trot, flexible and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you were working as an escort, were you

0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:27.480
<v Speaker 1>ever interested in finding someone romantically or did you put

0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:29.400
<v Speaker 1>your love life on hold while you were doing that?

0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Did you find it hard to date and be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, this is my job.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I didn't find it hard to date. So when

0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:37.119
<v Speaker 2>I did go out, when if I met someone that

0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:40.160
<v Speaker 2>I had a connection with, you know, you exchange numbers,

0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:41.600
<v Speaker 2>you do the whole thing, just like when you meet

0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:43.960
<v Speaker 2>someone out. So I did the whole thing, and but

0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:46.439
<v Speaker 2>I when I told one of them, he was funny

0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:48.480
<v Speaker 2>about that, so he looked at me differently because I

0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:49.280
<v Speaker 2>wanted to be honest.

0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:53.399
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you're damned if you bring it up immediately, and

0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:55.320
<v Speaker 1>then you're also damned if you wait a little bit,

0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:57.240
<v Speaker 1>because like what you hid, you were hiding it from

0:20:57.280 --> 0:20:59.720
<v Speaker 1>me to a very much lesser degree. It's like me

0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:02.199
<v Speaker 1>being drag queen. It's like if someone meets me up

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm with out of the makeup and they go,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you do for a job? I used to

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<v Speaker 1>say I worked in hospitality, but then they'd be like,

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<v Speaker 1>come back to my place and the whole place is

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<v Speaker 1>filled with wigs and glitter and everything. I'm like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>my housemates. She's just at work. But then the other

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<v Speaker 1>side is like, as soon as I say I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>drag queen, people have this instant image of the way

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to act or the way I'm going to be,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's like instant stigma behind it. But that's also too,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, how do you meet people that can work

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<v Speaker 1>around such a crazy schedule? You know, if you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>you're working from eight pm to five am and you

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<v Speaker 1>sleep during the day because you have to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to go to bed, it's like hard to network well.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why, Like, when I met this guy that I

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<v Speaker 2>had feelings for after a few times seeing him, I

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<v Speaker 2>actually that's why I told him because I was working,

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<v Speaker 2>like I had to, I wanted to work, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I was hard to find the time to see him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so what made you stop?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when I met my husband. Yes, apparently I fell

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<v Speaker 2>in love ill because I went away with him, and

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<v Speaker 2>when I went back to work, the girls all my

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<v Speaker 2>all my girls are like, oh, what's happened to you?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, what what's happened?

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you what I've been.

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<v Speaker 2>I was with him, and I felt like something did

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<v Speaker 2>happen on that trip with him, And then I tried

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<v Speaker 2>to do my job a few times after that, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's just I've made no money, right, so I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>My vibe, my everything wasn't there after that. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>just like I just I feel like I just closed off.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like off the market, like you know, shops closed.

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<v Speaker 1>We're out of business. Sorry, we're in liquidation. Jesus jam. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of like a sweet love story. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I hate it, but I love it. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a little bit like the one with Oh God,

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<v Speaker 2>pretty woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So now that you've left it, do you miss anything?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you regret leaving?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think no no, because my husband he's got

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<v Speaker 2>he's got money, so like him. It was pretty hard.

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<v Speaker 2>It took years. It took like it took literally it

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<v Speaker 2>took me years. And it's kind of like my whole

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<v Speaker 2>social skills have kind of like really died down now

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't see and meet as many people because

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<v Speaker 2>all I have is mum duties, so there's really no

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<v Speaker 2>time for anything else. I haven't got time to work.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good problem to have, though, it's like just

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<v Speaker 1>mean little babies and the person that I felt madly

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<v Speaker 1>in love with who has lots of money. Oh that's

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<v Speaker 1>a fairy tale. I want move over, Disney. So you

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<v Speaker 1>said that no one knew about it except for your partner.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you told any of your family any So it's

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<v Speaker 1>all the top secret.

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<v Speaker 2>Top secret. No family or previous friends from the industry,

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<v Speaker 2>no one you have met.

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<v Speaker 1>What did your family think you were doing? Is a

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<v Speaker 1>job when you were doing all this?

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<v Speaker 2>Just like what you said, hospitality, escorting is essentially like

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<v Speaker 2>role playing for the client's king.

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<v Speaker 1>So once you know, it's almost like improvisation in drama class.

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<v Speaker 1>Very yes, and so I was wondering, can you set

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<v Speaker 1>me up a scenario and a character for me to play?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll do it. I'll do it for you. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be really good. I'm a drama kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what about let me think? Let me think of

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<v Speaker 2>something I did do?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So you are a trade.

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<v Speaker 1>A trady okay, high viz yep.

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<v Speaker 2>That likes to be fed skittles.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's a good one. No, I like that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let me get into character. I am a trading.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, matrady.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, yeats, just move the trading man. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've just been out having a tinny and I can't

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<v Speaker 1>stay sucking on fags because that means something different. Yummy,

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<v Speaker 1>how did I go? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was good.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty good. Actually, they thank you. Torri isn't a florist.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a former escort who has kept this a secret

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<v Speaker 1>from everyone in her current life except her hobby. You've

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<v Speaker 1>Listen to more of what you love on iHeart and

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<v Speaker 1>Tory's face, but damn I look great.