1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:05,559 Speaker 1: On airvm ondav All listen to your heartskin Sand on iHeartRadio, 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: E's Clecy and Lisa rewound at ninety six AIRFM. 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: Coming up on the podcast today the Amazing David Gray, 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: also the Incredible Elliott Young and Eric Thompson back for 5 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 2: after Taste. 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: He didn't get an amazing or incredible, but he's pretty good. 7 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: The Sure Report on ninety six AIRFM. Sylvester Stallone is 8 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: in an all out war with a film producer over 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: the rights to the Rocky franchise. Stallone has slammed producer 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: Irwin Winkler and his entire family in fact, for controlling 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: the Rocky and Creed films, dubbing at the Real Rocky 12 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 2: Horror Show. It was more than four decades ago that 13 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 2: Stallone burst onto the Hollywood scene playing the eponymous Rocky Belboa. 14 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 2: The films would go on to gross nearly two billion 15 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: dollars at the box office. Stallone says he was paid 16 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: for his work on the films, but he never received 17 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: an equity stake, even though he also wrote the screenplay. 18 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: Sly says he's been cheated out of the rights to 19 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: the film, saying I really would like to have at 20 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: least a little of what's left of my rights back. 21 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 2: Sly says he wants to be able to leave something 22 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: of the Rocky franchise to his children. Winkler, meanwhile, who's 23 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: in his nineties now, isn't. 24 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: Commenting, Okay, that's a rematch. 25 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 3: Well, it's not the. 26 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: First time Sly has had a go about not having 27 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: the rights to Rocky. 28 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: The whole thing. 29 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, Peter Dinklin just jumping from one set of 30 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 2: games to another. He's going from Game of Thrones to 31 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: The Hunger Games upcoming prequel. It's been announced he's starring 32 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: in The Hunger Games The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes, 33 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: which is set sixty four years before the events of 34 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: the trilogy. Director Francis Lawrence says Dinklidge will play Caska 35 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: high Bottom, the dean of the Academy, and will start 36 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: alongside Tom blythe as the young Coriolana snow Do Reckon 37 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: Dinklage has ever just you know, been like Bob Smith. 38 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: Or I don't think so, just a regulation name. 39 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: Something fantastic, almost do everything. Have you seen The Hunger Games. 40 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: I haven't seen a whole movie. 41 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 2: Not believe it was a kid's story. When I saw 42 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 2: the original movie. Yeah, wow, anyway, red. 43 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: Light green light, but just a difference that exactly like 44 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: that Lawrence Right there, I did mention I've got a 45 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: couple of band aids on my hand. 46 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 3: Yes, what have you done to yourself? 47 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: Look? When we set up our kitchen loose, we decided 48 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: we had a few too many knives for a knife block, 49 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: So we thought it was going to be a great 50 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: idea to get one of those magnetic strips and you 51 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: stick your knife straight on on the wall. 52 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not keen on that idea. 53 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we did that prior to having a kitten. 54 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: We also did that prior to having a coffee pod 55 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: machine in the corner of the room. So what I've 56 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: done the other day is gone to put a pod 57 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: in the machine, the coffee machine, and I had to 58 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: move it over just a little bit because it's just 59 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: a bit too close to the wall. Unfortunately, I've forgotten 60 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: that we didn't these days have a knife block. And 61 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: I've sliced the side of my finger with a really 62 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: sharp Master chef knife I've got for free from Coals 63 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: a few free months ago. Right, and I've gone, Laurie, 64 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: do you want to come to the kitchen a little 65 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: bit and she's just coming to say this pull of 66 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: blood on the on the kitchen floor and go, what's 67 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: going on? Said that knife's really really sharp, at least 68 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: I've tested it. The Master Chef knife was a beauty, 69 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: but I've done a fairly deep slice in there. And 70 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: I went to the footing on Saturday night after wrapping it. 71 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: You stopped the bleeding with a couple of teatawels. All 72 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: the rest of them went at the footy with it 73 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 1: was all wrapped up, and the first guy that shook 74 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: my hand at the foot he gave me the biggest 75 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: handshake in the history of handshakes, right on the spot, 76 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: and I've given the biggest smile, which was actually a grimacing. 77 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: But we wanted to know about the way you've cut 78 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: yourself today, because sometimes it's just stupidity. And that was 79 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: pretty strong. 80 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: I'm not keen on the idea of your knives just 81 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: sort of being suspended in air. 82 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but it was pretty Yeah. 83 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 3: But they're not enclosed in anything. They're blades are just 84 00:03:58,360 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 3: the blades. 85 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: Just hanging it. And the fact that I put something 86 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: like a machine next to it, not real. 87 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 3: Bright yeahs very strange. 88 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: Get a knifelock. Don't mention the bit of skin that 89 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: was slapping around like a blowing on the Jedny No, yeah, 90 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: place I did. 91 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think your finger would have come off if 92 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: that was that much exposed. 93 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 3: You see, little finger. 94 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: It's your pinky, my pinky. 95 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 96 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, but dramatic. 97 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: I am very dramatic. You know that we're. 98 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: Asking how did you cut yourself? James and Yadshap Hello James. 99 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 6: Good morning guys. 100 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 7: How are you good? 101 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 3: How did you cut yourself? 102 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 6: I followed clergy and used some mash Chef night. Yeah, 103 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 6: for some reason. Yeah, I wanted to meat cleaver and 104 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 6: I bought one, didn't buy one. I got one free 105 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 6: from Coals and put yeah, put it the top or sorry, 106 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 6: second drawer of the in the kitchen, and the kitchen 107 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 6: draws reached in and sliced the back of my hand. 108 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 109 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 6: Fourteen stitches later and a trip to some John Agent care. Wow, 110 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 6: that was I was in more prove than you could imagine. 111 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 6: My wife was not impressed. 112 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 3: Crazy, that's a cut. 113 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: Fourteen I wad tell I was selling selling the drama 114 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 1: not very well here, James. 115 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 6: You know it was interesting eating. I was in the 116 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 6: two form probably three days after. 117 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: That, in trouble you were engined. And then sharp knives, 118 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: aren't there. 119 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 6: James, They're very sharp, very good. I don't know why 120 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 6: I got to meet clear. I didn't. 121 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 3: You don't want to put that in a drawer. You're 122 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 3: going to be rummaging in them, that's right? 123 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: And did you So you're in trouble, you didn't get sympathy, 124 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: But like me and here today, not getting much sympathy from. 125 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 6: Sympathy, no sympathy. 126 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 8: My actual wife was very cross. 127 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: That was her panic. 128 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: Up the blood. 129 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,679 Speaker 9: Well, no worries, that's. 130 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 5: Funny, a cleaver. 131 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 3: And fourteen I was shut up Tina in double how 132 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 3: did you yourself? 133 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 10: I was converting my cancer bus, my bus into a camper. Yeah, 134 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 10: easier to get it through the wood to sit into place, 135 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 10: because I'm not a calper, right, And I was chooseling 136 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 10: around in the choosel slip and went between my son 137 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,239 Speaker 10: and my finger, and yeah, Blackie, it was a little 138 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 10: bit blunt. 139 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 8: Actually I merely passed out that good old butterfly band 140 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 8: aid did the tree. 141 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, you're tough. 142 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 8: Like I said, I'm not a calpenter. 143 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 10: It was a pretty rough job. 144 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: Had a crack, and it reminds me of our old 145 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: mate Clericy, who we will call Captain Paul, drilled into 146 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: his hand one day and then just stuck it together 147 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 2: with a bit of super glodes you. 148 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: Some glue, but he said to fix the problem. 149 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thanks Tina, see Tina. 150 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,679 Speaker 3: Andrew and Camillo, Hello, good morning. 151 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 5: Good how did you yourself? 152 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,119 Speaker 9: I garden beds out in the front of the house. 153 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 9: The windows go right to the ground. I got garden 154 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 9: beds with roller shutters, and I was cleaning along the 155 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 9: windows still, and I think it was the rusty part 156 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 9: of the framing of the window. 157 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: That's just giving me chills. 158 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, go on, slic my. 159 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 9: Finger and blood like a stuff. Peg. I lost a 160 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 9: bit of my stopping my finger off as. 161 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: Well, said, blood like the stuff pigged in. Yes, how 162 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: about the shot Andrew had you go there? 163 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 3: That hurts? 164 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: Just think I think that thing where you you sort 165 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,119 Speaker 2: of you swipe your headlong something and you don't realize 166 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: that in the next minute you slice something on the coming. 167 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: Good Thank you, Andrew. 168 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: Glad you good morning. And something rusty in the. 169 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: Garden, yes, yes, window sill. Craig and managin, what about you? 170 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 5: How did you catch yourself? 171 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 7: So I restore vintage axes as a hobby, and I 172 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 7: was restoring an axe for my dad, and I restored 173 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 7: it all up and sharpened it and it was raisor sharp, 174 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 7: and took it inside the house barefoot to take a 175 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 7: photo to send to my dad, and leaned it up 176 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 7: against the cabinet and it started, it started falling. 177 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 11: And my mind went, my wife will kill me if. 178 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 7: It's hit the floor. 179 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:30,239 Speaker 1: Put you tried to do the right thing, tried. 180 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 7: To do the writing, and sliced my foot open. 181 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 11: So that was last year. 182 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 7: And then about three weeks ago I almost took my 183 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 7: finger off. 184 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 11: So I'm looking at my my nasty finger right now. 185 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 7: I spent about I spent about nine hours in different surgery. 186 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 3: Isn't it amazing though? How you do that? 187 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: There's just a reaction to put your foot out. 188 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 3: What you're doing. 189 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 5: I thought, don't let this hit the floor. 190 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: You don't want to get into trouble. But was that 191 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: sort of slow motion as well? 192 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 11: Craigan Away, It was very slow motion because it was 193 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 11: so sharp. 194 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 7: It didn't actually hurt for about five minutes. 195 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 3: Did she prefer a dent? 196 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 5: Or the blood. 197 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 11: I prefer the dent bled quite a bit, but I'm 198 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 11: pretty calm with that, so I sort of calmly said 199 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 11: to my young six year old daughter, I said, Sweetie, 200 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 11: can you go tell mom that we need to go. 201 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 6: To the hospital. 202 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, thank you, Craig, thanks Bud. 203 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 12: No, it's guys, take it. 204 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: I know a story that starts with Iris store of interjects. 205 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 3: Talking about how you cut yourself Shari and thorn Ley. 206 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 3: What happened. 207 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 13: I put a butter knife when I was younger, in 208 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 13: between two frozen patties. Yeah, slipped, went straight through, sliced 209 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 13: off my thumb, so my thum was flip. Blood back, 210 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 13: Blood was all over our unit that I was sharing 211 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 13: with my friend. It looked like a total murder, saying 212 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 13: she came home. I didn't even realize it's the extent 213 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 13: that I'd cut it, because I was on the floor mopping. 214 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 8: Up the blood. 215 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 13: Yeah, rushed off the hospital. Ended up with a full 216 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 13: tendon repair in my arm in a plaster. 217 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: Oh wow, it must have been a lot of food. 218 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 3: Button knife. 219 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 13: He was straight in and yeah, I had no idea. 220 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 13: The blood was everywhere. It was up the curtains, up 221 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 13: the wall all over the ceiling. 222 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 8: It was. 223 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 13: It was dreadful, She wrote, absolutely sure. 224 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: Was it about a knife as it at least you 225 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: and I think, yeah, with a curved you know it's 226 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: got a curve blade. 227 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 13: Like just a normal flat button knife. Yeah, no, no 228 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 13: like serrating on it. Nothing. It was as blunt as anything, 229 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 13: so you would never think you would cut. 230 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 4: Yourself with that strength. 231 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: No brute force. 232 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 13: Wow, absolutely no, it was pretty pretty yuck. I had 233 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 13: about twelve months of actually physio and stuff to be 234 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 13: able to use my farm again, and it was. Yeah, 235 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 13: not a fun time. 236 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 2: Thanks, thanks for shares we have for a while. 237 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: Not wrong b a Claret on the floor. 238 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 5: More Lisa, More podcasts soon. 239 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 8: Ninety six Airm's Own Boys Coast Eagor Elliott Yood Morning Elliott, 240 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 8: good morning. 241 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 3: How are you? 242 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 5: I'm good? I'm good. 243 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: How are you good? 244 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 12: Thank you? 245 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: Good to see you. Yeah, black Wise. The Boys had 246 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: lost to Hawthorne by twenty five points at the MCD, 247 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: but the game it wasn't all bad. It was just 248 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: one of those one of those kind of days. The 249 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: Hawks have been thereabouts with the top teams all year, yeah, 250 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: they have. 251 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 5: It was it was I guess for three quarters. Really 252 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 5: it was a good game. 253 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 12: We cost herself in that second and from that point 254 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 12: I'm more playing catch up. So but the if it 255 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 12: was there, the endeavor was there, but we probably just 256 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 12: liked a bit of polishing areas. 257 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 2: Gi Cully Ryan likes to talk about a lot. It 258 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: showed why Ryan likes to talk about him a lot. 259 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 2: He had an excellent debut with ten disposals, eleven tackles 260 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 2: and seven clearances. 261 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 5: A pretty impressive debut. 262 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 12: I mean, he's probably played five games, five or six 263 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 12: games against proper men coming from playing tap cup with 264 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 12: kids pretty much. 265 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 5: Yep, so it's so funny. 266 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 3: This sounds funny against proper men. 267 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 5: Kids. Yeah, exactly so. But it's a pretty impressive day. 268 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 12: But considering he hasn't had much experience at that sort 269 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 12: of level. 270 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: And what was you say, eleven tackles or something? Pretty cool? 271 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 3: It was eleven tackles and seven clearances. 272 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 5: He's quite a bigger body type of nine. 273 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, proper man body get bigger. You know the 274 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: art of kicking goals, mate, Luke Bruce is one of 275 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: those guys. He's done it for a long time, hasn't. 276 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: He got a bag on the Weekend. 277 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 5: Yeah he did. 278 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 12: Yeah, I remember my first sort of a couple of 279 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 12: years as well. 280 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 5: Bruce was one of those players that. 281 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 12: You just didn't want to man, especially as a young 282 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 12: kid too, because he's just so silky around goal. 283 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 5: So he's a hard he's a hard player to stop, 284 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 5: that's for sure. 285 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: People have that sense of where they are. 286 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he's. 287 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: One of them. 288 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 5: Lacquer was one of them. 289 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 12: Yeah, Eddie Betts as well. There were a few that 290 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 12: I did not want to line up on in the 291 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 12: back line. 292 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's some free of all. 293 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 3: The football as you've seen. 294 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 2: Who would be the one that you would think I 295 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: wouldn't have wanted to ever line up on that? 296 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:12,359 Speaker 12: Oh maybe going back a bit, maybe like to Yeah. 297 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 5: Wow, yeah, I was a massive Tony Montra fan, so yeah, 298 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 5: no one was as. 299 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 2: Good as that is not someone I would have you know. 300 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's kind of like a modern day footballer now. 301 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, And speaking of goalkickers, Josh Kennedy 302 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 2: became the leading goalkicker for a doub way team, beating 303 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: PAVs record. 304 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 3: That's pretty awesome. 305 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 5: It's always good beating a docor in it. 306 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: They said that is a kid. 307 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, exactly. 308 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 12: Yeah, I would have been filthy, would have any opposite 309 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 12: way around. But yeah, I mean awesome, awesome achievement. 310 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 3: But on the subject of Josh Kennedy, I'm confused. 311 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: We had this discussion this. 312 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: Morning because the team, the club is talking about how 313 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 2: it will be farewelling Josh Kennedy at Yes, you know, 314 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 2: we'll have the chance to say goodbye to fans at 315 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 2: the Adelaide game, right, But I haven't yet to see 316 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: him officially retire, to his moment where he gets to 317 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: sit down and go, okay, guys, you know, after an 318 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: incredible career, I officially am bowing out, aren't they, you know, 319 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: sort of taking his moment fealing his thunder. I know 320 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: there's been a lot of speculation about him finishing up 321 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: this year, but shouldn't he be the one that gets to, 322 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: you know, call the conference and sit down and say 323 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 2: it's been great. 324 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 5: But I'm off, you know, I think that's a fair comment. Please. 325 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 12: Yeah, I know things are up in the air at 326 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 12: the moment, so I think give me a call. 327 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: It sounds like a business decision by the club to 328 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: say he's not playing Gelong and July, he's not playing 329 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: a Docor's home game. He's going to play that one, 330 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: and the planning was done. 331 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 3: We'll let him announce it first. 332 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 5: Out of my control. 333 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 3: I just think it's very strange. 334 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: Fair enough, speaking of great is at the club, there's 335 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: a guy called Tom Barrass down in the back line 336 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: who he was taking marks for himself and he's missing 337 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: teammates including double the weekend, wasn't. 338 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 12: He absolutely Yeah, yeah, well he wracked up for both 339 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 12: of them. 340 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 5: Really, so I was. 341 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 12: I was chatting to him yesterday and he was saying 342 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 12: it was probably his first time he's actually cracked the 343 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 12: thirty mark. Yeah, so I think he was a little 344 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 12: bit crooked he yesterday because he had a bit of 345 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 12: lead the poisoning. 346 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: So eighteen marks, it's insane. 347 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 5: It's an insane game. Yeah, absolute freak of the game, 348 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 5: So unbelievable. 349 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 12: He's been since Scub's gone down to He's just stood 350 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 12: up phenomenally down on the back line and really been 351 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 12: a shining beacon for us back there. 352 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: There were some injury concerns, I should say there are 353 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 2: some injury concerns. Tim Kelly looked like he had a 354 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: bad corky. Is he going to be okay? 355 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 5: I would think so, But sometimes I depends how bad. 356 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 12: It depends if he can get moving today and what 357 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 12: he can and can't do. But sometimes they can get 358 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 12: really bad. I mean you saw Geary's one at the 359 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 12: start of the year, where you know, so they're the 360 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 12: really bad ones. But the ones that you can't see 361 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 12: that don't bruise up either, the ones that go deep internally, 362 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 12: they're the ones that really really hurt. So if there's 363 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 12: more bleeding on his leg throughout this week, then the 364 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 12: better it is. But if it's not, then the deeper 365 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 12: it is, and the harder it will be to sort 366 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 12: of get moving. 367 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: Can you hurry and come back? You need to come 368 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: back quickly. We need you in the rack. 369 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 5: I have played in the ruck before, so it's. 370 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: A bit lonely there because yeah has gone down and 371 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: then sticks out for a little bit longer. 372 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 12: Yeah yeah, I mean I have played in the ruck before, 373 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 12: so it would be be different to put my hand 374 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 12: up again. 375 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 5: I played one. I think it was one game when 376 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 5: Nick did his first knee. 377 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 12: And I come up against big boy McAvoy actually really yeah, 378 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 12: and I actually won. I won the first hat. I 379 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 12: was like, how could is this? And what did the 380 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 12: ruckling complaining. 381 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 5: About it should be a rucklan What am I about? 382 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 12: Lost the next and was so close to lipping him too, 383 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 12: and lost the next ten or twenty like contest after 384 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 12: that just got absolutely monsters and I was like, Okay, 385 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 12: that's probably why I'm. 386 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: Not a big mats and killed to this weekend. For 387 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: the Eagles and the Saints have been a bit off 388 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. 389 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 5: They have, they have, but so have we. But they're 390 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 5: a bit up and down. 391 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 12: But again, like us, their best is very good and 392 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 12: their worst is also not that good either. 393 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 5: So it's an interesting mix. Oh yeah, it's it's game on, 394 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 5: absolutely so mix. 395 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 12: And you know we've been playing consistently for three quarters, 396 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 12: so if we can we can pull together four, then 397 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 12: I reckon we might be a strong chance in taking 398 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 12: the Chockeys. 399 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 2: Ruckman Paddy Ryder suffered a calf injury against the Bulldogs. 400 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 3: It's sad for him, but. 401 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 5: For us, for us wear a bit light on. 402 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: Talented. 403 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's still going around, so some of the stuff 404 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 5: you can do at that age. 405 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: And time is running out to avoid the unwanted piece 406 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 2: of history of playing out the worst ever season. 407 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 5: So you really did hear that? 408 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: Yes, what do you have to how many of the 409 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 2: games left you have to win to avoid that? 410 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 3: Just one of the that's doable? 411 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 12: Well, it is, it is, So hopefully this week we 412 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 12: can tick that off and one of them. 413 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, and then you know. 414 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 3: Oh here we go. 415 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 416 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 5: Four, So the Cavalry is coming back. 417 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 3: The Eagles need to muster two wins. 418 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 2: They soon their final five games to equal their worst 419 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 2: ever lost record of for eighteen, which happened in two 420 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 2: thousand and eight. 421 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 12: Body, all those years, all those years, didn't know COVID, 422 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 12: And we've played every we've played every player on the listening, Yeah, which. 423 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: I think forty seven or something. 424 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 2: I mean, it was some really really bad start to 425 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 2: the year COVID style for the Eagles. 426 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: I mean there's no doubt about it. 427 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 12: I don't think there's a team that's played forty seven 428 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 12: players at all before now. 429 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think they said it was maybe once, but 430 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: it was a long long time ago. 431 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 432 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: The team was really some team was really struggling. But 433 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,479 Speaker 1: when it might have ben a skil squad made. I 434 00:18:58,520 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: was at the footy on the weekend, I was watching. 435 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: I saw that North Melbourne were about six goals ahead 436 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: of Richmond, and I said it, well, bottom bottom side, 437 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: they're going to lose this other and Richmond came stormed. 438 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 5: Specially from the week before. 439 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Richmond came storming home but still lost. So 440 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: North won the game. Were you watching that or following? 441 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: Because there's an eagle you don't want North to win games. 442 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,479 Speaker 12: I was following it after halftime because it. Mate messaged 443 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 12: me he said, I've had a bed on North. I'm 444 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 12: either I'm either a legend or I'm going to absolutely 445 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 12: cost myself here. So he got the seven to fifty 446 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 12: in the end. He was laughing. 447 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: His advocates leaned up. 448 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, so I was following. 449 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 12: I was following after that as well because I was 450 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 12: I was wondering if they were because the. 451 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 5: Week four he also had a bed as well. 452 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 12: Yeah, okay, and yeah exactly, and basically he got run 453 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 12: over again. 454 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 5: I was wondering if it was going to happen. But yeah, 455 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 5: you got the chuckies all right. 456 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 2: McGovern's season is confirmed as over. Nicknatt most likely won't 457 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 2: return for the rest of the season. And you, how 458 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 2: are you tracking? 459 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 12: I'm pretty good. Yeah, so I got through last week 460 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 12: quite well. We'll tick off some things this week, but yeah, 461 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 12: we'll wait and say it depends what I can do 462 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 12: throughout the week, whether or not I get. 463 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: The NOD and what into the number of games it 464 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 1: makes it worthwhile, you know, coming back, if it was 465 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: only one or two weeks at the end of the year, 466 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: would you still would still Yeah? 467 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 5: Absolutely as much. Yeah, exactly. I'd like to try and 468 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 5: play as many games as I can before the end 469 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 5: of the season. So all good to catch up with 470 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 5: your man. All the best, cheers, guys. 471 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 2: Following a much loved first season, Eric Thompson returns a 472 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 2: celebrity chef East and. 473 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 3: West in series two of After. 474 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: Taste, which premiere is nine ten tomorrow on ABC TV. 475 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: All the episodes are streaming on ABC. Have you and 476 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 2: Eric Thompson joins us. Now, good morning, I'm very well, 477 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 2: very well, thank you. So after throwing away his last 478 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 2: chance at fame, Easton has settled into obscurity rather well really, 479 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 2: until he's upstage by his niece Diana's return from London. 480 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 3: Is that where we're sort of set off from. 481 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:54,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much. 482 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 8: I mean it's about eighteen months or so since the 483 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 8: show was on, so we decided when we were writing 484 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 8: at the second series, justin of do it in real 485 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 8: time and see what's happened in that time. And so 486 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 8: Easter decided, because he because he he wasn't he was 487 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 8: failing at keeping his career going, that he would make 488 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 8: a big, a big exit from it and sink into 489 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 8: obscurity and uh. And the arrival back of Diana, who's 490 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 8: been off doing doing a big thing in London kind 491 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 8: of starts the ball rolling again. And they they these two, 492 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 8: this unlikely duo kind of you know, they antagonize each other, 493 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 8: but they also inspire each other to to to do 494 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 8: great things. So that's the dynamic that we're playing with. 495 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you like in the kitchen? Eric, be honest. 496 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 8: I'm not bad, actually yeah, I'm nothing spectacular. You know, 497 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 8: I don't do you know, high cuisine, but I can 498 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 8: I can throw together a pretty decent meal. You know, my, my, my, 499 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 8: you know, menu isn't isn't long. But you know I 500 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 8: do a few things. 501 00:21:53,359 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 2: Well that's what they always say, well spectacular, that's a 502 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 2: great menu at any restaurant, just a few things done well. 503 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 5: You don't need to exactly choices exactly. 504 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 8: And I live in South Australia too, and the you 505 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 8: know the food, the food that we have down here 506 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 8: and certainly is you know, fresh, really good produce. So 507 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 8: basically that's that's what they say as well, just get 508 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 8: the best, the best produce you can and and don't 509 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 8: muck around with it too much. And I'm good at that. 510 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: It's good if you can swear like Gordon Ramsey in 511 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: the kitchen. 512 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 2: Eastern West is one of the greatest names of a 513 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: character on televisions I have ever heard. 514 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 3: And did you did you prepare prepare for the role? 515 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,239 Speaker 2: As Clary said, there's Gordon Ramsey. Is he a bit 516 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 2: of an amalgamation of all those great chefs, Gordon, Marco, 517 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 2: Pierre White, all of them. 518 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's it's kind of those cliches that that we 519 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 8: that we all know from that that sort of narcissistic, arrogant, 520 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 8: arrogant chef. Of course, there's people like that in every 521 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 8: in every world. That there was a combination of that. 522 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 8: And also, I don't know if you've seen a show 523 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 8: on Netlik's called Chef's Table, which is a fantastic food 524 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 8: series that kind of looks behind the chef to see why, 525 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 8: you know, where they came from, and we wanted to 526 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 8: kind of tip that whole thing on its head and 527 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 8: go back into a world of an angry chef and 528 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 8: just see what's motivated has become the man that he 529 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 8: was in terms of food, but also in terms of 530 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,719 Speaker 8: the way he deals with people, and have a lot 531 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 8: of fun with that and you know, prompt a little 532 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 8: bit of a discussion around that kind of dynamic. 533 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love the way you've done that because Chef's 534 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: Table and my wife is obsessed with that show. But 535 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: some of the people are wonderful, beautiful, wonderful stories going 536 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: back and their families and all the rest of it. 537 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: I like the flipping that one over. 538 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 2: Yes, you know what it is about chefs that they 539 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 2: always have such a great story. 540 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: It's not influenced by family so often culture with the 541 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: food on the show, what happens there? 542 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: Do you get to is there a stunt chef that 543 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 2: comes in and cooks and do. 544 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 3: You get to eat it? 545 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 4: Yeah? 546 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 8: Well, I mean we were lucky in this first series. 547 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 8: Well lucky, I mean, you know, Turning is silver silver 548 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 8: lining basically was that it was during the pandemic, so 549 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 8: the hospitality industry were all in pause and having a 550 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 8: break because you know, they weren't the restaurants shut, so 551 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 8: we had access to some of the best pastry chefs 552 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 8: in South Australia and they made desserts that my character 553 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 8: predominantly had to eat. So that was that was a 554 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 8: nice bonus. And certainly, you know, I'm as an actor, 555 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 8: you know you can you can only do so much. 556 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 8: But to get the skills of a Michelin starship is difficult. 557 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 8: So I may or may not had a hand double 558 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 8: with the knife work out there. 559 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 3: That's fair enough. 560 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: And that's a nice job, isn't it. 561 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 8: It is, you know, and we you know you can't 562 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 8: just learn that stuff in a couple of weeks years, 563 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 8: and when you're dealing with very sharp objects, it's best 564 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 8: to walk away. 565 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 9: I'm not a Tom Cruise. 566 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 8: I don't, I don't. 567 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 9: I don't need to do my own stunt. 568 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: Well, otherwise you've had somebody scenes with the blue band 569 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: aids on. That's what we say them on the cooking 570 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: shoes exactly, and that's continuity nightmare. Yeah, that's right, Yeah, 571 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: it's on that finger last time. 572 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 3: All right. 573 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 2: Well, with all your culinary experience now, we hope to 574 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 2: see you soon on master Chef Eric in the Meantime 575 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 2: Series two premiers nine to ten tomorrow on ABC TV, 576 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 2: and all the episodes You're Can Have a good old 577 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 2: Binge are on ABC I view. 578 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 8: Thank you Eric and Eric my pleasure, Thank you taking easy. 579 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: I could just imagine Jock at the end of the 580 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: episode when Eric gets taken off mastership. 581 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 3: Give it up. It's very annoying. I'm sorry. 582 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 2: Are the blue band aids? That's in case it ends 583 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 2: up in your dinner, isn't it? 584 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: I think so, just taking spot it. Yeah, you don't 585 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: want the skin colored ones, not in your pasta, not. 586 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 3: Good yours blue this morning because. 587 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: I actually it started bleeding again. 588 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 5: Can you take me any emergency? 589 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 9: No? 590 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 2: Cy more Lisa More podcasts soon ninety six. 591 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: This is ninety six FM with Playersy and Lisa. The 592 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: one and only David Gray is coming back to Perth. 593 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: It's been way too long. He'll be at the Freemantle 594 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: Art Setter on Saturday and Nover twelve. We now announced 595 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: this morning a second show is happening on Sunday, November thirteen, 596 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: tickets through oz Tick's the twentieth anniversary of White Ladder, 597 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: which is extending a little bit the man who every 598 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: time he writes is like a songwriting masterclass. David greg 599 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: Good morning, Mane. 600 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 4: How are you very well? 601 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: Thanks, It's wonderful to talk to you, David. I've seen 602 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: you live a couple of times when you've been to Perth. 603 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: But this anniversary of White Ladder, how bizarre was that 604 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: to go back that twenty odd years when you started 605 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: this tour. 606 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I mean I think because of it, it's 607 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 4: a bit more than twenty years now because of the 608 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 4: COVID delays, and we were probably stretching it a bit anyway, 609 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 4: so it's getting close to twenty five years, to be honest. 610 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 4: But it's been an amazing feeling to get out on 611 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 4: stage again after all the time being away. And I 612 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 4: think that when this tour was first concocted as an idea, 613 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 4: I was a little bit ambivalent about sort of recreating 614 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 4: the past in this way. Yeah, But actually, ever since 615 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 4: we got down to the business of making the music 616 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 4: and shaping it exactly as it sounds on the record, 617 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 4: to getting all the samples and all the equipment back 618 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 4: and all the original people, it's been such a pleasure. 619 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 4: It really is like time travel when you lock into 620 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 4: the sounds and the song. It's like it is like 621 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 4: going back and I'm sort of back in my spare 622 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 4: room actually recording it. I have these mad sort of 623 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 4: but yeah, I mean, I think that over the last 624 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 4: twenty odd years, the record's attached itselves to people's lives 625 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 4: in all kinds of crazy ways. And when you go 626 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 4: out and you tap into that. Now, with this kind 627 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 4: of pent up energy that's out there post COVID, we've 628 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 4: got this kind of super charge in the audience. There's 629 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 4: a sort of crazy desire to glue themselves back together 630 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 4: and us too. It's the gigs have been incredible. They've 631 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 4: just been on a different level. I mean, the audiences 632 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 4: have been just superb. It's been breathtaking. I mean quite literally, 633 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 4: sort of jaw dropping at times. All I've got to 634 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 4: do is I've got to put everything into it. And 635 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 4: when the audience come back and they give me the 636 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 4: songs back and they sing along with me, then I've 637 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 4: done my job and the whole thing becomes like a 638 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 4: sort of it just you know, light blue touch paper, 639 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 4: and I watched the whole thing go off, and that's 640 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 4: how it's been. Every show has been phenomenal, so far. 641 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: It's going to be a wonderful feeling. Let's go back 642 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: to twenty more or twenty two years now, to the 643 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 1: recording this album. So this was album four, but this 644 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: was this was in your bedroom at time, right, with 645 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: a bit of counter work going on outside the window. 646 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 4: Yeah. As ever, you can always rely on London for 647 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 4: some you know, sonic interference. So yeah, you know it 648 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 4: was like someone's being arrested, someone was drilling. Yeah, it's 649 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 4: like you know, whoo woo. So yeah, we've got a 650 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 4: bit of that sort of on the tapes, yeah for sure. 651 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 4: So it was very much a bedroom recording. So I 652 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 4: think what we lost out with in terms of the 653 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 4: sort of sonic quality because we had very little equipment, 654 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 4: we gained in the kind of intimacy and essentially the time, 655 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 4: the richness of time that we had to create because 656 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 4: there was no financial pressure in that sense. Yeah, we 657 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 4: had the means of production in hand. We could try again, 658 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 4: do it again, make it again, make it work better, 659 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 4: and we had a very limited palette. But that's how 660 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 4: we made the record. Yeah, with the windows over but 661 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 4: once it was a beautiful spring day and that was 662 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 4: the classic Babylon recording. Yeah, yeah, you can listen closely. 663 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 4: You can hear the traffic going past and stuff like that. 664 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 4: So yeah, that was all a part of it. 665 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: It was Beblon, and Beblon became such a famous song, 666 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: such a signature song in many ways, and obviously your 667 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: body of work is far more than that. But was 668 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: that one that came together quickly or was that one 669 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: that was the head quite a process to it. 670 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 4: I think the recording was very instant, but the writing 671 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 4: took a bit longer. I had I remember writing the verse, yeah, 672 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 4: just a little motif of it, and then coming up 673 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 4: with the idea of the Friday night thing and just 674 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 4: but not just that, the way that the vocal melody 675 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 4: wrapped around the guitar, I thought, this has got something. Yeah, 676 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 4: but then it's like got like every song, it's got 677 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 4: to go somewhere. And it took me a little while 678 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 4: to engineer that next section to the bridge into the chorus, 679 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 4: so that it didn't come together in one sitting. It 680 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 4: was like a few different stabs at it before it clicked. Well, 681 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 4: as soon as it clicked, I basically obviously Friday, I 682 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 4: thought Saturday next, Well, Sunday, you know, I'm good at 683 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 4: this we never got to one day, but you know 684 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 4: it's the twelve inch version that Monday and Tuesday. Yeah, 685 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 4: that's when we you know, I wrote the lyrics, and 686 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 4: the way we worked on the White Ladder album, it's 687 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 4: very fresher. If the song was finished, we just started 688 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 4: on it the next day. And when we got into 689 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 4: the studio, we could have click track down and I 690 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 4: put the guitar part down so we had something to 691 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 4: work with, and then we started to do these little 692 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 4: beats and then Clue put these vote code parts down 693 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 4: with yes, and suddenly I was listening to it and thinking, God, 694 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 4: this is starting to sound really interesting, you know, like 695 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 4: this sounds like acoustic music but something different. You Yeah, 696 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 4: So it very quickly fleshed itself out into this thing. 697 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 4: And then I remember singing the song that night with 698 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 4: the windows open, hence the traffic noise and everything, and 699 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 4: my mate turned up and he was sitting in and 700 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 4: everyone decid to be quiet. I had the headphones on 701 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 4: and that was I did a couple of takes, like 702 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 4: two takes, and that was it. 703 00:30:59,000 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: That was done, and that was. 704 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 4: The album version was pretty much in the bay. 705 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: Wow, So you go from that rudimentary setup at home 706 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: with very little budget of anything, and then all of 707 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: a sudden you see the sales figure start going up 708 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: for White Leather and winning it up seven plus million 709 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: or something, one of the biggest selling albums of our 710 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: generation whole time. How was that for you psychologically and 711 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: as an artist? I mean, there must have been just 712 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: blowing your way. 713 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 4: It was incredible. I mean, there were many phases to 714 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 4: the success. So we put the record out ourselves in 715 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 4: Ireland and that's how it began, and the Irish got 716 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 4: behind us in no uncertain terms of incredible success there 717 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 4: and that was the springboard for the success then around 718 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 4: the world, and we couldn't really do an independent release 719 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 4: in every country and work it all out. We had 720 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 4: a momentum, so we then started to license the record 721 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 4: out to majors in the US and in the UK 722 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 4: and the rest of the world, and then it began 723 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 4: to sort of catch on. So, yes, it was an 724 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 4: incredible thing. But the part I enjoyed the absolutely the 725 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 4: most was the early stages. When I look back now 726 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 4: at the footage, there was a certain point where we 727 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 4: kind of got successful and we kind of got like, yeah, 728 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 4: he was successful. There was a kind of gloss to 729 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 4: it that I like the war early stuff when we 730 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 4: were no nonsense, we were just there. Yeah, we were 731 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 4: trying to prove it. We were so real, you know, 732 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 4: it was we were so hot. Honestly, it doesn't take 733 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 4: long before the success starts turning you into something else. 734 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 4: It's like a strange form of puberty that can go through. 735 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 4: It's not the most pleasant experience when you reflect on 736 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 4: what it does. Sort of disfigures your soul in some 737 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 4: strange fundamental way and you've got to kind of evolve 738 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 4: back out of it again. So I mean, luckily it 739 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 4: fades away just as fast as it comes. 740 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: Well, you know, you're not. Yeah, when the word expectation 741 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: comes up, I'm sure there was a lot of people 742 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: with a lot of this did interest going on with 743 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: this expectation for the next album album five. 744 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was that was all a bit odd, you know. 745 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 4: I think we went a sort of underdog status to 746 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 4: suddenly be like one of the big tips for the 747 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 4: whole year. Like, you know, it was like you know, 748 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 4: I think ultimately the White Ladder experience that it took. 749 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 4: So we were on the road with that record for 750 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 4: nearly three years, you know, and by the end of that, yes, 751 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 4: it was a global success, but that sort of took 752 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 4: something out of us. I mean it knocked us out 753 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 4: of our stride in a way, and there was a 754 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 4: lot to catch up on money, success, fame. My dad 755 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 4: died in the middle of that, you know, we had 756 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,479 Speaker 4: a daughter was born at the end of it. It 757 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 4: was like a mad time. I mean, like, you know, 758 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 4: more than a more than humans can can absorb process. 759 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 4: I think there was a bit of recoil afterwards, and 760 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 4: it took me a while to regather myself and find 761 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 4: my way back really through music to myself. 762 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: Almost what an amazing, surreal kind of time for you. 763 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: But now I've got to tell you my wife is 764 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: also a huge fan of yours like I am, and 765 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: in the intro I talked about a masterclass type songwriter, 766 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But I need to move away 767 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: slightly from music because at any given time my wife 768 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: does Chapanese and jams at home. And you're a jam guy, right, 769 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about Paul Well as band you 770 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: make James right. 771 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I famously did buy a jam record actually with 772 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 4: the money to be going on a school trip with 773 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 4: and my mom weren't completely crazy called sound effects by 774 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 4: the jam and the sound effects were yelling at me. 775 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 4: That was basically, yes, I'm a jam maker. Because my 776 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 4: grandparents were basically the wartime generation. They were from mining 777 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 4: stock up in the Northeast, and I think they just 778 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 4: basically sort of foraged for stuff that was free, be 779 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 4: it a rabbit or a BlackBerry or whatever it was. 780 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 4: And so BlackBerry picking was something i'd do with my grandparents, 781 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 4: and when they both passed away, I thought, I need 782 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 4: to carry this tradition on because there's something rather wonderful 783 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 4: about spending time in the headgerows kind of autumn, with 784 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 4: the wonderful sense and the slow downness of picking blackberries. 785 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 4: You get prickled and scratched, and then afterwards the wonderful 786 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 4: smells of this incredible smell of the blackberries cooking down 787 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 4: and all the sugar, and then this wonderful jam. Or 788 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 4: it's morely, it's more like bramble jelly, really jem. So 789 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 4: that's my that's my speciality, although I've long since lost 790 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,479 Speaker 4: the I sort of just jazz. 791 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah, Like at any given time, your store 792 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: room is like mine, It's full of jars, but that's 793 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: part of the game. Yeah, but I just need to know. 794 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: We ask all of the musicians to come on our show. 795 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: What was the last band or artist T shirt you wore? David? 796 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: Can you remember? Was it recently? 797 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 12: Oh? 798 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's been a while. I don't own many, 799 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 4: but I bought a Bill Callahan. Bill Callahan's one of 800 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 4: my heroes. I went to a Bill Callahan about four 801 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 4: or five years ago. I bought one of his shirts 802 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,919 Speaker 4: because I thought you was bizarre, but he was even 803 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 4: selling them. Yeah. I wore it once and then my 804 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 4: daughter decided it was cool. She took it and shrank 805 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 4: it as well. It's now far too small to get 806 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 4: onto my body, so she's somewhere in her clothing collection. 807 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, around the other way. And I needed to ask 808 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: you before we go. I was listening to a lot 809 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: of listening to four albums in a row yesterday, just 810 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: because being a fan, but also knowing I was chatting 811 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: to you. It's dell On and influencer for you, because 812 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: there are times when your voice does sound like Zimmy himself, 813 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:00,720 Speaker 1: like Bob obviously. 814 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 4: I mean, there's been no greater influence on me than 815 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 4: Dylan and you can probably hear Van Morrison in there too. 816 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 4: If you listened very very carefully, you might be able 817 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 4: to hear a little bit of Robert Smith every now 818 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 4: and again, just a tiny hint, a smidget, sort of 819 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 4: a suit. So on those formative stages, you know, I 820 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 4: sort of basically my first band I was obsessed with 821 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 4: with Madness and the Specials and the sort of two 822 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 4: tone thing that happened in the UK seventy nine eighty, 823 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 4: and then you know, I kind of came out of 824 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 4: that into the indie movement of the Smiths and the 825 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 4: Cure and all that stuff, and the Cocktail Twins things 826 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 4: like that. Around that time, I've also discovered the sort 827 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 4: of singer songwriter, So I found Dylan, then Leonard Cohen, 828 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 4: On Martin, you know, Neil Young, you know Tom Waits. 829 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 4: I started to find all this Joni Mitchell and I 830 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,240 Speaker 4: began to listen. Then a bit later on I discovered 831 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 4: Van Morrison and all those things. At that very formative 832 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 4: stage in your life, they had a found effect on me. 833 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 4: And obviously the print of those things is in my music. 834 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 4: But you know, I think, yeah, my voice is a 835 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 4: bit battered. I don't really look after it as such, 836 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 4: I kind of I just sing a lot. That's why 837 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 4: keeping vocally fit. I just basically batter it and occasionally 838 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 4: it gets very very gravelly, and I guess those moments 839 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 4: are a bit. I mean, I can do a decent 840 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 4: Dylan impression probably on a good day. Yeah, but I 841 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 4: don't really think about that, but it's definitely there. As 842 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 4: you say, yeah, I might. 843 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: I could talk to you for about four hours or 844 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: maybe four dinners, but we haven't got that much time. 845 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 1: But as absolute treat to talk to you. We look 846 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 1: forward to seeing you in Perth because we'll be at 847 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 1: the show. 848 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm really looking forward to it too. So I mean, 849 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,439 Speaker 4: like you know, we didn't even know if this part 850 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,479 Speaker 4: of the tour was ever going to happen because things 851 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 4: are so crazy, you know, and you tightened your borders 852 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,919 Speaker 4: up fair enough, but it didn't look like anyone could 853 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 4: get in for a while. So it's going to be 854 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 4: We're all psyched to come down there and I'm sure 855 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 4: it's going to be fantastic. 856 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: Well, you know from past two is the love coming 857 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: back from the audience in the Perth Western Australia is 858 00:37:58,560 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 1: going to be the same, So we'll see what the 859 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 1: free I want to say that, thanks, take care. 860 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 2: Cheers ninety six a FM Crazzy and Lisa 861 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 10: Mm hmm