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Speaker 1: Happy Tuesday, everybody. Welcome to the Daily OS. It is

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Speaker 1: the thirteenth of July. My name is Sam Kazlowski and

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Speaker 1: we're going to chat through the news today with Zara Sideline. Zara,

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Speaker 1: what is on the agenda today?

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Speaker 2: There was some less than great news for New South

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Speaker 2: Wales yesterday. There is news of another virus in India

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Speaker 2: and some good news about Canada. To wrap it all up.

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Speaker 1: After that, Zara, I want to ask you some more

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Speaker 1: personal questions than usual about the COVID nineteen ad released

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Speaker 1: by the federal government over the weekend. I can to

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Speaker 1: hear your reaction to it. Absolutely, let's jumped straight into it.

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Speaker 1: So the COVID nineteen sally in New South Wales yesterday

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Speaker 1: was triple figures, one hundred and twelve new locally acquired cases.

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Speaker 1: Sixty four of those were linked to a known cluster

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Speaker 1: and forty eight were in isolation during the entirety of

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Speaker 1: their infectious period. The New South Wales government has also

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Speaker 1: announced a new phase of the vaccine rollout. This includes

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Speaker 1: making the astrosenica vaccine available for peace over forty, opening

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Speaker 1: new vaccination censers, and giving the green light for pharmacies

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Speaker 1: across New South Wales to administer the astrosenica vaccine for

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Speaker 1: people over forty. It was clear at yesterday's press conference

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Speaker 1: that Premiere Beeragiclian is very concerned.

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Speaker 3: I want to stress again, we are in an absolutely

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Speaker 3: critical phase of this disease. All of us want to

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Speaker 3: get out of this lockdown as soon as we can.

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Speaker 3: All of us want to reduce the stress we're all

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Speaker 3: feeling and we are the future is in our hands.

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Speaker 2: And in case that news wasn't concerning enough, the Indian

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Speaker 2: state of Kerala recorded fourteen cases of the Zeka virus

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Speaker 2: on Saturday. Among the patients was a pregnant woman. She

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Speaker 2: tested positive on Thursday, a day after giving birth, while

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Speaker 2: the newborn tested negative for the virus. The rest of

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Speaker 2: the case is are healthcare workers who are receiving medical

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Speaker 2: care but are stable. Zica virus is usually Mosquito born,

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Speaker 2: and it gained attention back in twenty fifteen when there

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Speaker 2: was a Zeca virus epidemic in Brazil that eventually is

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Speaker 2: read to Africa, the Americas, Asia and the Pacific.

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Speaker 1: Alexander lush Carava, a cameraman from Georgia, the country, not

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Speaker 1: the US state, has died after being bashed while covering

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Speaker 1: a Pride protest lash. Carrava was one of several journalists

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Speaker 1: attacked last Monday by opponents of the march, and while

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Speaker 1: the cause of his death has not been made public,

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Speaker 1: Georgie's Interior Ministry has announced a criminal investigation.

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Speaker 2: Today's good news is more about preventative measures. So yesterday

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Speaker 2: we told you about the crazy wildfires that are spreading

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Speaker 2: through Canada, and today we're talking about new measures for

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Speaker 2: train drivers in Canada that are designed to prevent wildfires

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Speaker 2: during periods of extreme heat. Now, the measures will include

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Speaker 2: railway operators reducing the speed of trains when temperatures go

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Speaker 2: beyond thirty degrees, and conductors will be required to spot

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Speaker 2: and report fires along their routes.

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Speaker 1: So, after many months, the federal government rolled out the

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Speaker 1: first major COVID nineteen ad campaign over the weekend. Zara

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Speaker 1: knew kind of paint a picture of what this ad

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Speaker 1: basically shows us.

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Speaker 2: So it is a young woman who is an actress.

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Speaker 2: She looks to be in her twenties, and she's on

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Speaker 2: a ventilator and she is struggling to breathe, and it

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Speaker 2: is an extremely, extremely confronting scene to watch she's basically

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Speaker 2: trying to rip the ventilator out and trying to gasp

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Speaker 2: for air.

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Speaker 1: And is this a nationwide campaign?

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Speaker 2: So it's nationwide in the sense that it was created

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Speaker 2: by the federal government with an ad agency obviously, but

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Speaker 2: it is only being played in Sydney. So we found

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Speaker 2: out that the government had created this ad a number

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Speaker 2: of months ago and then they were only planning to

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Speaker 2: roll it out when there was something severe happening like

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Speaker 2: what's happening in Sydney at the moment. So apparently the

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Speaker 2: Chief Health Officer gave his approval for the ad to

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Speaker 2: be rolled out in Sydney because of what's happening.

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Speaker 1: And what would you say. The general sentiment has been

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Speaker 1: to the ad on social media and amongst expert circles.

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Speaker 2: So expert circles and young people have two different reasons

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Speaker 2: for coming to the same conclusion. Young people believe that

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Speaker 2: the ad is offensive in the way that it encourages

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Speaker 2: young people to go get vaccinated in a very scary manner.

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Speaker 2: But most young people aren't actually eligible to get the

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Speaker 2: fires vaccine, which is what the health advice tells us

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Speaker 2: to get. So there's this ad campaign that is scary

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Speaker 2: and it's call to action is really go get vaccinated

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Speaker 2: so that people don't end up like this poor woman

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Speaker 2: on a ventilator. It's been condemned as a bit out

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Speaker 2: of touch, especially because there are young people in ICU.

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Speaker 2: We know that there are people under the age of

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Speaker 2: twenty even in ICU, so young people are a bit

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Speaker 2: frustrated by the fact that it's seemingly scaring them without

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Speaker 2: any reasonable solution. On the other hand, the experts, so

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Speaker 2: the doctors, the epidemiology, they're just saying that it's not

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Speaker 2: an accurate portrayal of how medical staff would deal with

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Speaker 2: the situation like that. So they're saying that if there

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Speaker 2: was a young person who was on a ventilator, they

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Speaker 2: would never be left in a situation like this where

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Speaker 2: they're tearing out the ventilator and struggling to breathe and

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Speaker 2: there's no medical systems available. I actually read a tweet

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Speaker 2: of an ICU doctor who wrote that she was getting

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Speaker 2: off Twitter because she was having traumatic episodes watching it,

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Speaker 2: having seen what she had seen in Melbourne's ICU hospitals

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Speaker 2: last year. So, I mean, its purpose was to scare,

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Speaker 2: and it's definitely achieving that purpose. But whether or not

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Speaker 2: it will make young people go get vaccinated when they

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Speaker 2: have the choice to do so is another matter altogether.

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Speaker 1: So this is a bit of a Devil's advocate question.

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Speaker 1: But do you think that it is better than nothing

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Speaker 1: or do you think that it was a case of

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Speaker 1: the government should have held off releasing this ad.

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Speaker 2: I think that there is definitely a national yearning for

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Speaker 2: a coordinated campaign. It just feels like this one fell

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Speaker 2: a little flat, and I actually do think it will

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Speaker 2: do more harm than good because while we do have

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Speaker 2: supply issues, if young people are prompted to go and

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Speaker 2: get vaccinated and the ad is really evocative and effective

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Speaker 2: and makes them do that, they're going to come up

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Speaker 2: against the obstacles of not having enough vaccines available. So

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Speaker 2: it just doesn't seem like there's any measurable or attainable

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Speaker 2: success that can be traced from this ad. So I

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Speaker 2: just don't really know its purpose currently. When we do

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Speaker 2: have the supply, which we're hoping is in September October,

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Speaker 2: perhaps then would be the appropriate time to run an

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Speaker 2: ad like that, but in the meantime, But in the meantime,

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Speaker 2: running a positive campaign about what can happen when you're

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Speaker 2: vaccinated seems to me like a better option.

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Speaker 1: You were on the ABC last night talking about young

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Speaker 1: people's attitudes towards this ad. Do you feel like on

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Speaker 1: this that young people's voices are cutting through?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I like to think so, but then I

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Speaker 2: see that ad and it tells me that there has

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Speaker 2: not been any input from our cohort. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: and I are in the cohort that is being represented

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Speaker 2: in that ad, and based on what we know about

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Speaker 2: our audience and the dally OS audience, it just doesn't

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Speaker 2: seem like something that would cut through for our audience.

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Speaker 2: And so I just wonder what sort of youth input

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Speaker 2: was put into an ad that is clearly trying to

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Speaker 2: target the youth.

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Speaker 1: We feel that we're in a really privileged position here

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Speaker 1: at the Daily OS to represent the views of so

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Speaker 1: many young Australians and we take that responsibility really seriously.

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