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Speaker 1: Now, if you're listening to the show yesterday, you would

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Speaker 1: line is the local member for Daily, the electorate which

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Speaker 1: these communities fall into, Duran Young.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Oh.

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Speaker 3: Good morning Katie, and good morning to you listenings.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for your time this morning.

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Speaker 1: Duran Holy, have you spoken to Tristan or Christina out

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Speaker 3: No, I haven't spoken to them directly. I have spoken

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Speaker 3: to Rain, but I don't have a contact for them unfortunately.

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Speaker 3: But I have asked the department to try and get

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Speaker 3: I'm also waiting to get a contact number for them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, it sounds to me like it is incredibly

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm sorry they feel that way. You know,

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Speaker 3: this has been a huge flooding event, you know. One

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Speaker 1: I mean, has the government dropped the ball a bit

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Speaker 3: Well, we've had we've had teams out that the police

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Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, from what we're being told,

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Speaker 3: Look that's something. Yeah, I've been hearing back and I'm

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Speaker 1: Now in terms of you know, with some of these

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Speaker 1: Well, look, I know in Queensland, in remote and other

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Speaker 3: I don't believe there's a stark difference in the community.

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Speaker 3: Where's a government support everyone, it doesn't matter where you

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Speaker 1: Told us though, they literally told us that there was

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Speaker 1: Well, look, it seems like the ball was dropped for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I've linked up those people with the director

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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, of course, I've already been speaking to many

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Speaker 1: Well, look, I definitely we've We've got their contact details

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that'd be much appreciated. Yeah, more than happy

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Speaker 1: Now, tell me at some point, is there, like you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's something that the ministers are going to have

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Speaker 1: That at the moment, And what about larger scale for

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Speaker 1: Well I wonder as well, like given what's gone on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. And I've spoke to Malandarium mccafee last

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Speaker 3: I've been trying to keep everyone updated, all the Minister's

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, Duran Young, the local member, the member

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Speaker 1: for Daily so just to I guess wrap things up

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Speaker 1: so you are going to do your best to get

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. I would Yeah, I would love to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 1: been left behind or forgotten, and unfortunately, that's how they're

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Speaker 2: So I think that that is a good thing. Just finally,

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Speaker 2: is there going to be a.

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Speaker 1: Review of this latest disaster so we don't wind up

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Speaker 1: in a situation again where territorians are left for eighteen days.

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Speaker 3: Oh, there definitely needs to be a review. You know,

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Speaker 3: we've never seen timber Creek cut out for so long.

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Speaker 3: I think, well, last year there was a flooding event

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Speaker 3: there that was a one in fifty year event, so

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Speaker 3: you know, people weren't expecting one the following year when

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Speaker 3: you have events like that. But you know we're going

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Speaker 3: to have to review. We're seeing more severe weather events

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Speaker 3: way we respond to emergencies and how we can tighten

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Speaker 3: things up and that that happens after every emergency event.

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Speaker 1: Well, Daran Young, the member for Daily, we appreciate your

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Speaker 1: time this morning. Thanks for coming on the show.

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Speaker 3: All right, thanks for having me, Katie, thank you, thank you,