1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Podcast you nine our voices, quick heads up. 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 2: This podcast can sometimes get a bit rough on Brozen Cons. 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 2: We talk about real life and we're committed to having 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: open conversations with no filter. Some experiences and tastes can 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: be challenging to digest, so if you're easily raddled, you 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: probably want to see this one out. 7 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: Listener. 8 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: Discretion is advice support is always available. You can contact 9 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: Lifeline on thirteen eleven fourteen or thirteen Young on one 10 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: thing nine two seven six for Aboriginal or Tory straight Islanders. 11 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: All right, let's get it. 12 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 3: Yo. Everyone. 13 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: What are you doing? You're listening to Malick aka a 14 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: green Light. This is Bros and Cons giving you the ropes. 15 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: It is what it is. I'm back here again with Malick. 16 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 3: We've got a special guest here, my son. He doesn't 17 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 3: really talk much, so what are you doing? 18 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: Dad? 19 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 3: He's got to talk before. 20 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 1: We are, before we go on and go on, I'm 21 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: just going to quickly run you through this podcast. We're 22 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: going to go through a few things and a lot 23 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: of you fans have been asking us questions. We want 24 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: to answer questions at the end of his podcast at 25 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: stay tuned or say. 26 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: We're going to go through. 27 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of people that want to 28 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: know a bit more about the music and the beef. 29 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: I don't know who's following me, but I've got a 30 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: lot of followers that keep asking us about the bet. 31 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: So we're going to go through that, and we're basically 32 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: going to run you through some daily routines that me 33 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: and Ron Godi are going through the music industry that 34 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: you've seen us hip hop and everything. There's also a 35 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: lot of people that I'm eager to hear about our 36 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: personal lives. Will go through everything. I was also supposed 37 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: to have a special guest. You couldn't make it, but 38 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 1: it is what it is. He's coming the next one. 39 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: You and j Lex had a big influence. 40 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 3: Lad, Yeah, I think we all did as a group. 41 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: I definitely think we had a massive impact on Australian 42 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 3: Je've seen. 43 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. It's not that about it, hater, I 44 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: love it. He's had a big influence. Whats are like 45 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: just knowing that you've got to be a part of 46 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: that eerror from twenty nineteen to now, it's. 47 00:01:55,720 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 3: It's definitely, uh, how can I put this? It was 48 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 3: definitely like a time where we felt like a lot 49 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 3: of pressure was on us, you know, because a lot 50 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 3: of people were counting on us. So, yeah, a lot 51 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 3: of people counting on you. And like just when you 52 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 3: walk to certain places, you know you got to keep 53 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: your guard up, and did you at the time, you know, 54 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 3: the beef was popping off, So it was a different error. 55 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: It was a different, very different goodie. 56 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: So hell, did you did you even think that you 57 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: were going to be a part of that scene? 58 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 3: Growing up? 59 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: Growing up? 60 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 3: You know, for our family and friends that do know us, 61 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: we've we've been a part of our music has been 62 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 3: a part of our life ever since we were young, 63 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 3: but we never thought that we'd be on the oz hip. 64 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: Hop jewel scene. 65 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so I think at the time everything was 66 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: last minute, and you can easily tell by the music 67 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,119 Speaker 3: were dropping back then everything was last minute. Sometimes last 68 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 3: minute is the best. Yeah, last minute is the best. 69 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: You know, you scope for your heart, you do what 70 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 3: you can and you drop whatever you can drop at 71 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 3: the time. And that's that's how it was for us. 72 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 3: You know, everything was like you know. 73 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: If you if you look at the Australian hip hop 74 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: scene now there's a lot of new young artists that 75 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: are trying to promote themselves, that us slowly getting into 76 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: the game. 77 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, you gotta say about those boys. 78 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: Because it's everyone wants to just dump in there and like, 79 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: you know, be a part of it. 80 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 3: How do you go from I can't really tell them 81 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 3: to be to be themselves and to be authentic because 82 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 3: to be honest, like it's it's it's it's either you 83 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 3: you make it or break it, or you're just one 84 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: of the lucky ones to be honest or it's all 85 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 3: it's all about the network you have at the end 86 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 3: of the day, the people you know, and like network 87 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: we're talking about makes life money networking. Networking goes a 88 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 3: long way when it comes to the music industry, especially 89 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: if you're in Australia, especially if you in Sydney. In Sydney, Australia, 90 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 3: Yeah so network networking in the music industry will go 91 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: a long way. Otherwise yeah nothing, but like you could 92 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 3: be talented as fuck, but to be honest, you're talent 93 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 3: will go no if you don't know anyone. 94 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all about the hustle. That's what I strongly believe. 95 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: I didn't really have too much of interest in music myself. 96 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: It was more of a hustle thing for me, like 97 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: networking with different people and getting my name out there. 98 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: A lot of people know that I wasn't really one 99 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: of the more talented ones. I was sort of behind 100 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: the closed doors. I was always there. I was always 101 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: that figure that was very loyal to my brotherhood. That's 102 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: that's how I sort of got into it. But in 103 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: terms of the US music industry and everything, I hate it. 104 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: I don't like it at all. 105 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: I hate the agenda that you got to put up with. 106 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: I don't like the. 107 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, there's just a lot of stuff, 108 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: and it's stupid because a lot of a lot of 109 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: rappers have to live up to a certain standard to 110 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: become a rapper, and I couldn't. I couldn't do that. 111 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: Like like people telling me not to post my missus, 112 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: I was. I was thinking, get the funk out of here. 113 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: You know that's my partner. People telling us to wear 114 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: like the latest clothes, Like you get this Balencia Yaga hoodie, 115 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: you gotta check it on because that's what it is 116 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: to be a rapper. 117 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 3: You know you're gonna happen, You're going to kind of 118 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 3: like portray this image you know, just to be that. Yeah, 119 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 3: I don't know, man, it's weird. But Australian I was 120 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: hip hop music scene, it's pretty weird. And you know 121 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 3: back then it was like way more hype than what 122 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 3: it is now. I feel like now it's pretty. 123 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: Now it's just it's just going off the rails. We're 124 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: sort of like duplicating what's happening in America with those. 125 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 3: Did He parties and everything. 126 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: That's something I want to get far far away from because. 127 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 3: And did He parties happening right now in Australian we 128 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 3: don't even know someone's getting did Like. 129 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: It's hard to like it if you're if you're getting 130 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: into the industry, I would highly recommend you just stay 131 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: authentic to yourself and do you don't think if your 132 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: pops if it doesn't remember a lot of people like 133 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: that did this stuff. Yeah, like parties, everyone gets together, 134 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: drinking alcohol, drugs, all that stuff. 135 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 3: Say it is what it is. 136 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: I can't say anything because I didn't really escalate that 137 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: much in music. 138 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 3: But and what are you working? What's what's your opinion 139 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 3: on the music industry now? How everything's going now? To 140 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: be honest, I sort of cringe. 141 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: I like you cringe every time, like you know, like 142 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: there's jewel there's jewel music coming out. Not even I'm 143 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: not even taking a No one should take offense to 144 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: this because I cringe out myself. Is well, sometimes I 145 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: look back at dr music. I'll clean sometimes because only 146 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: one side of it's only really one side of a story. 147 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: You're trying to you're trying to prove a gender like 148 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:02,799 Speaker 1: you're there. Yeah, you're trying to You're trying to flex personally. 149 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: It's not my flavor anymore. 150 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 3: Like you know, I think it's a it's a good 151 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 3: learning code. But to go through that and to see 152 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 3: your past self and just to be like, yeah, cringate 153 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 3: yourself in the past, and. 154 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of it is just stuff that was 155 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: in the moment. So yeah, a lot of it was 156 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: really in the moment. It wasn't we weren't really talking 157 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: about other stuff. We just had something that we're looking 158 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: at and then we made a song about it. Yeah 159 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 160 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: And now that we look at we look back at 161 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 3: it now, fucking me and my brothers, we look back 162 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 3: at it, and every time we're talking about it, you know, 163 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 3: we just have a laugh and talk about the good 164 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: old times that we had. I think it was all 165 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 3: about the fun times we had back then. But I 166 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 3: don't really think it was about the music back then. 167 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 3: It's just what we were doing back then, and we had. 168 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: A lot of We had a lot of lawyer fans 169 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: shout out to my lawyer fans ket On annoying us 170 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: every single day that album coming out, when he's going 171 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: to drop another song. Yeah, stuff like this is reasons 172 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: why we came up with this song and a lot 173 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: of this music. 174 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: This is very important for. 175 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: My young is that that a lot of a lot 176 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: of you guys are following us. A lot of the 177 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: music that I spoke about is what is stuff that 178 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: was happenings, stuff that is happening. 179 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: There's stuff that was happening. 180 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: Just because I'm lucky hears certain things that's not what 181 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: is actually happening, because I guarantee you if there was 182 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: anything happening, the last thing we'll do is rap about 183 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: it or singing songs about it. 184 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 3: And that comes that comes down to the effect of 185 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 3: the Australian hip hop music, Like what kind of effect 186 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 3: did I have on you or us as a group, 187 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 3: Like the Australian hip hop saying it had, it had 188 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 3: a different type of effects on us. To be honest, 189 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 3: I feel like after after dropping a few few massive 190 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 3: bangers and a few music and now I feel like 191 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: not only it affected us in a way where we 192 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 3: had to try and like probably uphold a certain image 193 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 3: towards people, but like probably to our own family and 194 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,599 Speaker 3: our own friends, they probably would have judged us and 195 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 3: portrayed us in a different way. I did feel like 196 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: that as well. You know, I'll go to certain family 197 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 3: events and stuff, you know, get talked about that because 198 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 3: you're you know, you're you're rapper, your artists, and you're 199 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 3: like the opposition of these guys. So yeah, a lot 200 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 3: of things were happening, you know, and it was a 201 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 3: bit confusing. But now that now that we started this 202 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 3: podcast and people can try and get a bit more 203 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 3: depth and a bit more of an understanding of what 204 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 3: we had to go through in the past, So it's good. 205 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, It's sort of just something like a days that 206 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: one of your personalities are going through. 207 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 3: And I feel like. 208 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: For me, like it was always like a hat that 209 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: want like folks going to where like to perform a song, 210 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: I gotta put it on my tongue hat, that whole 211 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: different character everybody has, as much as you want to deny, 212 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: everybody has different types of characteristics for themselves. They got 213 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: multi personalities and it's important that I feel like it's important. 214 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: A lot of people try to embrace those persons, characters, characters. 215 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 3: But you know, show them off in a good way. 216 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 3: Because it's just like two Pike. He had a lot of. 217 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: Different versions to him, but he knew how to you know, 218 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: how to really engage engage the audience in his fans. 219 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: But this guys, yeah, man, and. 220 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 3: A lot of you guys got to see it like that. 221 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 3: Don't take everything too personally. There's a lot of two 222 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 3: sides to your story. 223 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: There's a lot of stories behind the story, and there's 224 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 1: so what you what he sees is just what you're 225 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: getting for that time being. 226 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 3: And what's the what's the problem with the young Islanders 227 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 3: these days? Within our cannedy what do you reckon? 228 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: Oh? Well, man, like everyone feel fell into that whole 229 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: like being against well, I can't really say it because 230 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: it was happening before as well. Yeah, we got involved 231 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: in the first place. It was happening a lot of 232 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: Islanders were becoming gangsters. But remember our generation, yeah exactly, 233 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: just we're new. 234 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 3: To to Australia, so yeah, when it comes to us, 235 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 3: I feel like we can't really have a say because 236 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 3: we were doing it ourselves back then. 237 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, but like it's it's also. 238 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 3: Good to try and reach out to the younger Islanders 239 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 3: and the youngins out there, just to try and stray 240 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 3: them away from what we don't because we had to 241 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 3: go through it to completely understand. And I hate to 242 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 3: say this, but I had to go do the time 243 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 3: and go do jail for me to actually wake up 244 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 3: to myself and understand that, you know, there's no one 245 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 3: out there is really there for you. You're going to 246 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 3: be on your own. And sometimes, like I don't like 247 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 3: to advise the youngins, but sometimes they have to go 248 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 3: to jail to really understand and really connect with the 249 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 3: deeper self and understand that, you know, only their family 250 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 3: and their brothers and yeah, for them doesn't. 251 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: Even have to be jail or a lot of the 252 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: times where men just become alone. Yea. Then they realize 253 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: that they realized yeah, yeah, the two attributes and skills 254 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: and everything. They realize, like you what's actually important and 255 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: what's not? Yeah, they say, you put a man behind 256 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: four wars and watch their amount of stuff. He comes 257 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: up with Watch of the Man exactly. I feel like, yeah, 258 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: it's just spending time with yourself. Very important jail will 259 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: but yeah, either make or break you. But a lot 260 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: of these youngs are sort of like sort of trying 261 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: to trying to play the part. I feel it almost 262 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: feels like it's everything's been forced. A lot of us 263 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: got a sort of influence into this lifestyle. 264 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 3: Yes, that's that's another thing. We also got influenced around 265 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 3: our peers and just a community that me and Manik 266 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 3: and my brothers grew up from. Like everyone was a 267 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 3: part of it. Like you couldn't just go about your 268 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 3: day and not be a part of it. It was 269 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 3: almost impossible, like you got dragged into it and you 270 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 3: were like a little rat or something if you went 271 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 3: a part of it. 272 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: And that's the way you've seen it, you know, growing up, 273 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: we grew We grew up around like good places raised 274 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: in South Draminals where we were raised. A lot of buildings, 275 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people, a lot of money, a lot 276 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: of cutters, leaving games, everything, driving through Granville, all the 277 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: last stuff. Because yeah, a lot of us witnessed the 278 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: first hand in front of us. Yeah, a lot of 279 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: us wanted that lifestyle, but we had where like we're 280 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: still it's like we were still getting started in Australia. 281 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: You know, not many of us were able to find 282 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: opportunities the same way as others were, because yeah, I'm 283 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: not just being new to Australia. I think a lot 284 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: of us envied that lifestyle, which sort of jagged that SA. 285 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. Just I think it's the pressure from the media 286 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 3: and everything like growing up and also not only from 287 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 3: the pressure of the media, but at the time the 288 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 3: people that were hanging around with it was like a 289 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 3: little bits and pieces of everything that was combined that 290 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 3: made us who we were in the past. And you know, 291 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 3: it was just it's a good learning curve to grow 292 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 3: up out of it and see where we've come from. 293 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 3: But now now that we've we've actually learned to to 294 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 3: come come to this circumstances in life where we do 295 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 3: appreciate time and the real value of life and and 296 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 3: just like the opportunities that there is in Australia. Fuck, 297 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 3: I think it was devi when we're young, but we 298 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 3: just never woke up to it. Now Yeah, there's a 299 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 3: lot of and that it all comes down to also 300 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 3: the people you're hanging around with, because you're never gonna 301 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 3: know about opportunities until you hang around the right people. 302 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 3: But this is what I always say, man, just choose 303 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 3: your crowd wisely. 304 00:14:55,600 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: And there was a question. Sorry, I'm gonna enter fans 305 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: questions a bit later on, but there was a question 306 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: of seeing it not a question there was Someone wrote 307 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: on the TikTok, let me see if I can find it. 308 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: Someone wrote on the TikTok commented on one of the 309 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: videos said Islanders in Aussi are better off financially and 310 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: living standards. If they tried that in New Zealand, they 311 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: would struggle twenty times over. So wait, so Aussi's they're 312 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: saying that landers in Australier better off, probably talking about 313 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: opportunities and everything, and they're saying Islanders in New Zealands 314 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: will try if they tried that, they will struggle twenty 315 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: times over. Well, I can't really say, because I'm not 316 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: from New Zealand, I can really say. But it's all 317 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: about your surroundings and what you're doing. That is that 318 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: that's gonna be some shitty excuse, So I don't. I 319 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: feel like that is just a shitty excuse. You just 320 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: gotta find more opportunities. And I feel like if you're 321 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: in a place like New Zealand or Camera and there's 322 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: quiet places like places where where there's less opportunities than 323 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: the market is down and you're not making it as 324 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: much money, I feel like that's a big that's more 325 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: of an even bigger opportunity to make something big happen, 326 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: because anywhere you go. 327 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 3: Doing it, then that's your chance to do it. 328 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: Us. One of there's growing up in Australia where there's 329 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: a lot of competition. 330 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, we learned. 331 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: Fast, but we have to we we gotta. We gotta 332 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: live with the fact that there's a lot of competition here. 333 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and especially living in Sydney, it's like you gotta 334 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 3: kind of adapt to the fucking the jungle because you're 335 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 3: gonna get left behind. 336 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel like you just gotta sort of if 337 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: if stuff are not working up for you, news in it, 338 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: maybe change your surroundings, come up with something different, or 339 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: change something, change something before. 340 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, but New Zealand there's a few 341 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 3: mates of mine, you know, a few close mates of mine. 342 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 3: They're doing very very well for them. Also. Yeah, that's 343 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 3: what I don't know when when I'm sure going to 344 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: hear stories about people, you know, struggling in New zeal 345 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 3: very good. I've got a fear few bit of mates that. 346 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 3: But they've even come come from that gang life, you know, 347 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 3: that struggle life, and they've done it all on their own. 348 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 3: They've jared to five and one as well. 349 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, boys that ended up in New Zealand who 350 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: are doing really good. So I feel like it's just 351 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: it's just yourself telling you telling yourself more excuses. But 352 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: use this, use it as an opportunity to find something big. 353 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 3: You know what. I won't take. I won't take people 354 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 3: saying I'm struggling in Sydney like yeah, it's almost impossible 355 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 3: to struggle in Sydney. Like there's there's opportunities. Australia is 356 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 3: probably one of the top five places to well doing 357 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 3: anything money, Yeah exactly, you know, and to say you're 358 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 3: struggling or you come from struggle or you're poor in 359 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 3: Sydney it's I don't know. 360 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: But you want to wake up to you So basically 361 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: camera like ten to fifteen years ago, No, one will 362 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: go to for money. There was no money making anywhere exactly. 363 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: People were coming to Sydney to make money. Now ten 364 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: to fifteen years later, my people help people from Sydney 365 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: are going on to Camera to make money. Yeah, and 366 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: they find the more opportunities to making something out of 367 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: a place that had nothing. 368 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 369 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: Shat out to the camera too. We look up to 370 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: some of the boys who's moved out for a better 371 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: living and got out of the area, moved away from 372 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: friends and just found a new lifestyle for them. A 373 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: lot of them speaking of Camera, I hate Camera. I 374 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: can't live there, but a lot of people when they 375 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: made a new living there and it's a good place 376 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: to raise kids. Personally, I will never I'll never go there. 377 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: I feel like I just want to get home. 378 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 3: I probably I reckon I could live in Camera if 379 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 3: I was to go older, Yeah, somewhere like and you 380 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 3: can't go anywhere or like you know what I mean, 381 00:18:53,680 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 3: as you become an opportunitist in Sydney, you know, yeah, opportunities. 382 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, what we were saying about young Islanders back to 383 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: young Islanders in Incyny. 384 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 3: My advice to you guys is to just you know, 385 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 3: take it from us guys that have been through it. 386 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 3: You know, there's nothing that really comes with, you know, 387 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 3: doing the whole repping area thing, unless like you really 388 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 3: really feed off it and go hard, go do it. 389 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 3: But fuck at the end of the day, but everyone 390 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 3: knows where you're going to end up. Yeah, I'm pretty 391 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 3: sure that what's the tattoos the tatoo with the three. 392 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: Dots my crazy life? Oh yeah, fuck, that's not in 393 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: a part of it. 394 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 3: But I got told it to hospital or underground or 395 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 3: jail at the same time, the morning sound prout Lock. 396 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: I'm actually proud of our of a lot of our 397 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: young we have the area growing up in Granville, beerong Bro. 398 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: We have a lot of young entrepreneurs who are making 399 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: it big in the game and make good money for themselves. 400 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: One in his mid twenties already boy his first sanyard 401 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: in Guildford. There's a lot of youngest from an area 402 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: that I actually switched on. But yeah, man, there's any 403 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: a few like I feel that's sort of got to 404 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: learn how everything works. 405 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 3: But it's all good. 406 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: You'll see everything fold out as it comes. And I'm 407 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: just wanna encourage you to you to get your money up. 408 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: That's yeah, Yeah, I got involved. Like, don't get me wrong. 409 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: A lot of the times that I make music, I 410 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: represent somewhere that I came from, somewhere that I've been, 411 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: and I represent my brotherhood. I'm not representing the gain 412 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: more representing people that attack. I'm basically or throwing up, 413 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: which I'm not really doing anymore to be honest anyways. 414 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 3: But that's what it was, and yeah, just sucked. 415 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: Encourage you to keep your head up and make get 416 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: your money up, that's the most important. But that's probably 417 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: the most important thing, man. 418 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 3: Just create your own financial ideas, change your mentality and 419 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 3: you'll grow man, and just keep going. Doesn't matter if 420 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 3: you're working nine to five or not. Everything everything is 421 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 3: all about investing in yourself and not other people. Yeah, 422 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 3: invest in your family too, but the main thing is 423 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 3: to invest in yourself. Worry about yourself because once you 424 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 3: know how to take care of yourself, you know how 425 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 3: to take care of everyone else around you. 426 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: What made you change because you got influenced a lot 427 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: by his older brothers. It is which is that guy 428 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: over here? But you got involved with like influence into 429 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: their lifestyle. I could I could never really see where 430 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: your head was at. But how did you what made 431 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: you think it's just did you sit down one day 432 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: and think, fuck, Melig's are drunk, I'm not gonna do shit. No, 433 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: did you? 434 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 3: I think it was just the whole just one time 435 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 3: where I was just really depressing and I feel like 436 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 3: I was my back was against the wall. I feel 437 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 3: like if everyone has a really has a rock bottom, 438 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 3: and to the point where they finally reached that rock bottom, 439 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 3: I think that's when the mind will switch. 440 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: For me. That's what happened to me. 441 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 3: Like I was in I was in Segro one time 442 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 3: in jail, I went to Segra and I had a 443 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 3: lot of time. I was in Segree for two weeks. 444 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 3: And for those that do know that, if you've been 445 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 3: in Segro, fuck it's very eerie, like you're there by 446 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 3: yourself and no TV, no nothing. It's very cold, you know, 447 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 3: cold bed. But I just had a lot of time 448 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 3: to think to myself, you know, and I felt like 449 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 3: I really hit rock bottom and I did it. I 450 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 3: still didn't know when I was going to get out, 451 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 3: and yeah, yeah, I just decided to change my life 452 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 3: from there on and that anything I did have in 453 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: that cell was a bible and a ment health magazine. 454 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that that kind of impacted me in 455 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: a way. Yeah. 456 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, it's probably that and just a lot 457 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 3: of other little depression I was thinking about. Yeah, I 458 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 3: just wanted to change my whole life and you know, 459 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 3: changed to be a better man for myself and my 460 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 3: own family and my brothers, everyone surrounding around me. Basically, yeah, 461 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 3: good on you dogs. 462 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: We're all proud of y'all, and we're all happy with 463 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: the way you're going with fitness. 464 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 3: I want to get into you sooner. 465 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,479 Speaker 1: Because a lot of people and trade that this guy, 466 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: if any of you is, remember Ron Gody, He was 467 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: about one hundred and eighty kilos. 468 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 3: Before maybe I want to say one hundred and eighty 469 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 3: fuck me, it was like one. 470 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: Hundred and fifty or something. He's head down and he 471 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: was training. He started training, and his fitness has become 472 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: a big part of his life. 473 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, And like, man, you know what, the one thing 474 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 3: I do hate is everyone's saying that, oh, he went 475 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 3: to jail and he lost weight, that's how he lost weight. Nah, 476 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 3: I've actually got a proof and videos of me training 477 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 3: before I went to jail and like because I knew 478 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 3: I had to change my mentality. Yeah, I got heaps 479 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 3: of videos away, like sad videos, but like, I hate 480 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 3: looking at it. Whenever I look at those old videos 481 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 3: of me and I was lifting weights, I was training 482 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 3: and I was overweight. Fuck, it's depressing, bro, just to 483 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 3: think back at it, Like what was going through my 484 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 3: mind to actually start training. I think there was one 485 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 3: time where I was sleeping and I couldn't, Like I 486 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 3: was choking in my sleep, you know, and fucking I 487 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 3: woke up to myself a couple of times just because 488 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 3: I was choking about fucking a bit funny about. 489 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: Fuck, it's bad. 490 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 3: But yeah, when you're overweight like that, it's bad. You know, 491 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 3: you got to change. That's what made me like start training. 492 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 3: You know, my diet was still all over the place. 493 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 3: But see, as long as you start somewhere, you know, yeah, 494 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 3: we gotta. 495 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,479 Speaker 1: There was before you got into the music industry, there 496 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: was the first song that you made a grandmar Youth Center. Yeah, 497 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: so can you run us through that quick. 498 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 3: That that song was by me, me, j Lex and 499 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 3: Peter Tubes or Peter Tupo Is that that t KB Peter? 500 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? 501 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 3: Way, Yeah, we haven't seen him in a minute about 502 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 3: Fuck yeah, it was us. He was He's like his opion. 503 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 3: He was making music back then as well. You know 504 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 3: all there there was actually like a lot of a 505 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 3: lot of artists that have made a name for themselves 506 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 3: now you'll be surprised. They all started at pc Yse 507 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 3: and Gramble. We had our own little studio set up 508 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 3: there and everyone knew everyone from the area and there 509 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 3: was a mad meat up spot for everyone that you know, 510 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 3: it was from Gramble, Maryland, Skildford. Everyone used to come 511 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 3: to the Gramble pc icy you know, it was known 512 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 3: for the spot. Yeah, everyone comes and hangs out, you know, 513 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 3: making songs for fun, making songs for fun. 514 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: And there was there was a few trendy videos going 515 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: out there, like the grandb Boys high school songs. Yeah, 516 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: some of the Guildford songs that were coming out exactly. 517 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 518 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 3: And I think a video of me went vowel on 519 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 3: YouTube or something. I was singing I don't want to 520 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 3: talk about it. I was stealing my school uniform with 521 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 3: So what's that first song about? It sounded I heard it. 522 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 3: I was going to I'm going to put up the 523 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 3: video for you. I'll give you the guys link. 524 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, don't take out the first song that we've ever 525 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: that've boys ever made before they got into the music industry. 526 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know what the song is called, but 527 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 3: fuck we just we made it. I produced a beat. 528 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 3: Jay Let's started rapping on it and Peter as well. 529 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 530 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think back then, I saw myself as 531 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 3: a producer and not really an artist, which is interesting 532 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 3: for you guys because you guys probably won't know this, 533 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 3: but I saw myself being like a doctor Drey in 534 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 3: the future, and I wanted to make beats and ship 535 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 3: and that's the first beat I ever made. Yeah, but 536 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 3: you can just tell. 537 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: You just told from the beat out inspired I was, 538 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of a lot of. 539 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 3: Different the song sounds. 540 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: Is there anything that you want to speak about that 541 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: could be coming out of se Ever keeps asking me 542 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: about the music stuff, asking me. 543 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 3: He's going to tell you, Yeah, we're actually working on 544 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 3: one song right now that's that's coming out. It's going 545 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 3: to probably be one of the biggest music videos we've 546 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 3: ever made, you know, whole careers. It's not what you think, Yeah, 547 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 3: but it is going to be something that everyone can 548 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 3: vibe to. Families, kids and friends. Will be very family. 549 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: Targeting the afrobeat sort of targeting the afrobet community. 550 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 3: So I'm coming for you, but we're coming for you. 551 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: I'm coming for Bernovo. That's my guys. 552 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 3: That's it for the first half. Yeah, we'll be back. 553 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: Great. 554 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 3: This is bros and cons giving you the ropes. It 555 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 3: is what it is. 556 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: Let's get into a bit of a hot topic now. 557 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: The video video seculating and TikTok was the os dual 558 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: is the most consistent page I've ever seen since twenty nineteen. 559 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: I have these guys making a lot of money, these guys. 560 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 3: He must be making a lot of money, you know, 561 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 3: just posting all the duels in a few years. 562 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: But well, yeah, yeah, I know what you're talking him about. Yeah, 563 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 1: people were wondering what the fun I was doing in Penrith. 564 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 3: I was in Penwroth. 565 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: I started dating out of dating my wife. Now started 566 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: dating a girl from Mantor. The way I met her 567 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: is a very funny story and I'll get to that. 568 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: I'll get to that later. But yeah, I started dating 569 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: a girl fell I fell in love with her and 570 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: the whole Post Coast scene to me has always been 571 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: like a joke, you know what I mean. Sometimes when 572 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: it happens, it happens, but it's never been very serious. 573 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: Otherwise I wouldn't be hanging out in Penuth around that time. 574 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: Remember again, I was living with in jail with boys 575 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: from Malnie. I was doing doing a lot of time. 576 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: I knew some friends from Mount Jewish, So at the time, 577 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: it wasn't really something that I took very very serious. Basically, 578 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: I'm a maid man and like, I don't really that 579 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: stuff never really crosses my mind as much as it 580 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 1: looks like that some of the audience. My wife at 581 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: the time was a very surprisingly she was a good girl. 582 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: She didn't know anything, and like I didn't want her 583 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: to know anything. She did know much about the jewel 584 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: scene or all that the os hip hop, and I 585 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: feel like not many many girls know about that. 586 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 3: First of all, I wasn't gonna tell her. 587 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell her like baby, I'm from I'm from 588 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: twenty one district and that one two three can't be 589 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: in this certain area. It was basically I was in 590 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: the our positions area. I was dating her and it 591 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: was achievement for me. I wasn't gonna tell her, And yes, 592 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: so she would be like, can we go get iskreing 593 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: from Mount George? 594 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 3: She'd ask me. 595 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: Of course, at first she'll be like, he's got you 596 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: got any drama or problems and no dramas, no problems. 597 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: All right, let's go get icecuing Mount George. Yeah, one 598 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: hundred percent. Let's go get asking. We'll get we'll get 599 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: get ice cream, we'll get pools and watch movies and cinemas. 600 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: At first, of course, it was a bit easy, but 601 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: Michigo started like, you know, kicking back. Sometimes we get 602 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: you back at an opining river a pen. That's why 603 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: I used to take it out, and I used to 604 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: always come to her as a man. I would come 605 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: out to her. I'll never bring it out to my 606 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: place in case she felt comfortable about being away from home. 607 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, I was basically living here. Well yeah, I 608 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: was basically living in a place. And I didn't tell 609 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: her anything. And so when o when boys rocked up 610 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: to me, like I seen them more past me, and 611 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: they rocked out to me questioning where I'm from. 612 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 3: Obviously they already know who I am. 613 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: I haven't told my missus nothing, so she doesn't know 614 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: nothing about getting banging or any of that stuff. So 615 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: when these boys are looking at me, I'm making sure 616 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: my missus doesn't look at the same time I'm looking 617 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: at them. And then I'm making I'm looking at I'm 618 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: looking away with my partners looking and I'm thinking, fuck 619 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: happy these kinds that make a scene while we're in public. 620 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: They end up coming to me and they're like, an 621 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: your malefant twenty one this year, and yeah, like I can't, 622 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: I couldn't lie. I told him the truth and then 623 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: I tried to whisper to him. I was like, listen, 624 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: I'm not really hit the red case, but if you 625 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: don't have a crack, we gat a crack ladder. 626 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,479 Speaker 3: And they're like, no, but that, let's have a crack now. 627 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: I look at my partners. She's looking at me like 628 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: what the fuck is this? What's going on? Yeah, and 629 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: I my fuck, I don't know these boys. I don't know. 630 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: That explains the video, yeah, And then I didn't really 631 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: want to get her. This is this is a big 632 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: difference in me because back in my days, I would 633 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: have been a whole different story. We've both been would 634 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: have been getting jobs. I've been jumping fit on. But 635 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: I sort of tried to change. I wanted to look 636 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: good in front of her. I didn't want to show 637 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: her that side of me. We went through with that. 638 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: But the thing that really changed is in that moment, 639 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: instead of starting to attack, which is what I will 640 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: usually do, I started to stand on my defense, which 641 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: is what I want a lot of young is to 642 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: learn to just defend yourself. You don't have to be 643 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: going out there to attack yourself. Just defend yourself the 644 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: best you can. There was the best decision for me 645 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: because I didn't go to jail. My finally didn't go 646 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: for any stress. But like just that spit decision, I 647 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: decided to just defend myself instead of trying to attack 648 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: it and made a bit different and yeah, it was. 649 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: It was probably the smartest decision you could have done. 650 00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 3: Time. 651 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of the time he was. Of course, 652 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: after I was burning, my partner still didn't know anything. 653 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: I was still burning and I was telling now, I'm 654 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: gonna go home now and get some resk. She wasn't 655 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: having that. She knew exactly what I was thinking. Yeah, 656 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: so she didn't let me go home. She didn't do nothing. 657 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: I sort of had to wait for her to sleep. Yeah, 658 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: and then I ended up falling to see myself and 659 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: then the rest is history. I forgot all about it. 660 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: Tom music out, things changed and I see it, and 661 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: then you just gotta keep the ball rolling. A lot 662 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: of the Australian justice system, a lot of them try 663 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: to target reoffending reoffenders. So one thing I didn't want 664 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: to do was even touch someone. I'm going back to jail. 665 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: They're going to say, I'm violent. He just touched someone else. 666 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: He's a minister society taking back to jail and for 667 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: most of years that don't know about Manic's rap sheet. 668 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: But if anything this guy does, he goes straight back 669 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: to jail and like a blink of a night, there's 670 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: no going to get it and bailed for me, Like, yeah, 671 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: it was very important that I controlled myself in every 672 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: moment I can. And I feel like that's the best 673 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: advice for young's out there, people that lose their temper. 674 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: I just learn to control yourself. There's a time to 675 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: release anger, and it's when you're defending yourself. Yeah, I 676 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: could have been in jail, and I'm glad I'm not 677 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: in jail. I sort of escaped that life. I'm trying 678 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: to keep away from that and this is how far 679 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: we come. And even repping inside jail was was messed 680 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: me up. 681 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 3: I think it all comes down to like then again 682 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 3: comes down to like your being alone and you just 683 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 3: figured out that. 684 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: Doing shit like that is gone many behind it. You know, 685 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: you don't want to go to jail for like violence 686 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: or anything like that, it's the last or you don't 687 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: want to go to jail at all. 688 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 3: Let me repeat, like you don't want to be a 689 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 3: ja at all. Guys, Like time time goes by and 690 00:33:51,040 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 3: you realize the world's still spinning on your indore picking it. 691 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: Can't you choose your see