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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: I have a podcast which I love. It's been going

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Speaker 2: for three years. And what is so fun about the

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Speaker 2: podcast is it's an opportunity to skip the small talk

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Speaker 2: and have big talks with well known people, but you

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Speaker 2: discover a different side to them. And you know me,

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Speaker 2: You've known me a long time. I do love to

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Speaker 2: have a D and M you do with someone and

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Speaker 2: to get a sense of what their fears are, what

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Speaker 2: their vulnerabilities are, and because none of us are perfect,

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Speaker 2: and a lot of us walk around thinking we have

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Speaker 2: to be perfect, but we don't embrace your imperfection, embrace

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Speaker 2: your vulnerability, and then you realize that you are enough.

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Speaker 3: Sam Neil, who why just rate through the roof he's

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Speaker 3: been on well he had a type of cancer, blood cancer.

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Speaker 2: I believe Sam has got a rare sort of blood cancer.

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Speaker 2: And he's my most recent guest on the podcast. But

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Speaker 2: what I adore about Sam, he's seventy six. He does

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Speaker 2: not want to retire. He says there's no wag to retire.

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Speaker 2: He loves what he does. But he talks about having

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Speaker 2: imposter syndrome and often that's something that we think about

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Speaker 2: women having, but at the age of seventy six. Sam

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Speaker 2: is a massive star. He's been on huge Hollywood blockbusters

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Speaker 2: like Jurassic Park, art House films, but still whenever he

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Speaker 2: sets onto a steps onto a set, he still gets

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Speaker 2: those nerves and it feels that.

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Speaker 3: But also with the cancer he had, that relationship that

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Speaker 3: he has with Brian Brown is just and there's a

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Speaker 3: nice bit of banter that goes on between them. But

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Speaker 3: while he was in hospital, I like this what he

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Speaker 3: said about Brian.

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Speaker 1: I would be completely lost without friends. And old friends

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Speaker 1: are even more precious, you know. So they've been around,

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Speaker 1: they've been through the tough times, and they've you know,

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Speaker 1: I had a spell in hospital. Brian came in every

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Speaker 1: day every day. I thought, that's a real friend. Didn't

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Speaker 1: have anything to say, but he came in and kept

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Speaker 1: the company.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that beautiful because they are such great mates. And

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Speaker 2: as Sam talks about, they're very different though. Sure Brian

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Speaker 2: loves Rugby League, Sam likes Rugby Union. Brian drinks beer.

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Speaker 2: Sam has a vineyard and makes this award winning pinot noir.

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Speaker 2: But they have this really enduring, long standing friendship and

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Speaker 2: don't you reckon Jonesy. That friendship is really what matters

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Speaker 2: in life. It's what endures. And if you've got people

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Speaker 2: who get you, who know you and and support you,

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Speaker 2: that's really makes such a difference in our.

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Speaker 3: Lives, like our friendship. I'm looking forward to being on

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Speaker 3: Jessro's Big Talk Show. I would love to have you

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Speaker 3: bikes we could talk about.

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Speaker 2: No, we have to talk about deep and meaningful things.

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Speaker 3: Motorbikes are deeper meaning.

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Speaker 2: What is deep and meaningful about your bikes?

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Speaker 3: Just riding one?

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Speaker 2: But why do you like to ride bikes?

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Speaker 3: Because I think it's a mental health thing. It's like

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Speaker 3: a mental health pill. Well, I'd go mental if I

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Speaker 3: didn't ride a motorbike.

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Speaker 2: That fact that you say it's a mental health thing.

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Speaker 2: All of us need those sorts of escapes, but also

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Speaker 2: a purpose outside of ourselves, something that brings us joy.

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Speaker 2: So obviously riding bikes that makes your heart sink. For me,

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Speaker 2: what makes my heart sinc Coming in here with you,

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Speaker 2: having a chat, having a laugh, making my hats, doing

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Speaker 2: my cross stitch, doing the podcast, the Jetro Big Talk

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Speaker 2: Show podcast. You can listen to it wherever you get

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Speaker 2: your podcast. Jones Well said