WEBVTT - Ask Uncut - He Doesn't Want Me To Use Our Embryos

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<v Speaker 1>This episode was recorded on Cameragle Land. Hi guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut. I'm Laura,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Brittany, and this is ask gun Cut where we

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<v Speaker 1>answer you're deep, you're dark, and you're burning questions and

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<v Speaker 1>britt I have a question for you today. So you

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<v Speaker 1>guys might have seen if you listen to Tuesday's episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how we arrived there, but we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about people that were hot or things.

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<v Speaker 2>How we arrived.

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<v Speaker 3>They just told you I met my hall pass and

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<v Speaker 3>you met him.

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<v Speaker 4>You're say, did he waved at me Keisha, He made

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<v Speaker 4>eye conduct and then bloomy kiss and said, britt I'll

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<v Speaker 4>call you later.

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<v Speaker 3>He was on the floor above us, waving to the

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<v Speaker 3>entire crowd, and Brittany's like, it was me, he was

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<v Speaker 3>making eye contact with you.

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<v Speaker 1>To be fair, he might have he did. He looked

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<v Speaker 1>down and like this, what was his name again?

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<v Speaker 3>Jonathan Bailey? Don't ever forget.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sorry, Jonathan Bailey.

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<v Speaker 1>BRIT's hall pass and one of them, and somehow we

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<v Speaker 1>got onto like unexpected hall passes. It wasn't even I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even think it was a natural segue. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>actually unexpected hall passes. We just started talking about Big

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<v Speaker 1>Bird and then Barney came up.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't include us in this. I can tell you how

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<v Speaker 4>the conversation went. I said, is it okay that my

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<v Speaker 4>hall pass is gay Jonathan Bailey? And you said, fuck brute,

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<v Speaker 4>your hall pass could be Barney for all I care.

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<v Speaker 2>That was how it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't an organic segue. You just threw it in

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<v Speaker 3>my face.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we put it up on socials yesterday and some

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<v Speaker 1>people got it. They also could see how Barney could

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<v Speaker 1>be a vibe, strong jawline.

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<v Speaker 4>I get how inanimate or fake people like characters can

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<v Speaker 4>be hot.

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<v Speaker 3>I get that, but Barney's not.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be hot.

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<v Speaker 3>You take Barney, then I'm taking Aladdin.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>That was what I was going to ask because it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of kicked off yesterday and a few people messaged

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<v Speaker 1>me and were like, hey, this would be my character

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<v Speaker 1>hall pass if I was going to go for a cartoon.

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<v Speaker 2>Aladdin is very very high up.

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<v Speaker 3>There, or you know who my other one would be?

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<v Speaker 3>Who Hercules wouldn't be mad about it, bit dumb, but

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<v Speaker 3>you wouldn't kick him out of bed? N a ninja turtle?

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<v Speaker 2>Nah?

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<v Speaker 3>Which one a Leonardo. Maybe you reckon Blue, he's ripped.

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<v Speaker 2>They're all they're fun, That's what I mean. They're fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Say the rat, you can have sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Coin vibe.

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<v Speaker 3>There are so there are some super.

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<v Speaker 1>Hot character John I just pointed out a really important

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<v Speaker 1>flaw in this.

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<v Speaker 2>They're teenagers.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh oh, that got weird. Not even only weird because

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<v Speaker 3>they're turtle. Because the title is teenage. Yeah yeah, alright,

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<v Speaker 3>Bonnie Bla, they wouldn't be teenagers anymore. Actually, that's a

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<v Speaker 3>good point.

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<v Speaker 4>Teenagers are still eighteen and nineteen, I think, which is

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<v Speaker 4>of legal age.

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<v Speaker 2>This is true. This is true.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a couple of other ones. I just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to rattle off Tarzan hot.

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<v Speaker 3>D dumb.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's okay, he can't. It can't help that he's dumb.

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<v Speaker 1>He hasn't been around people. He's been out there with

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<v Speaker 1>the wolves. Also, the fox who plays Robin Hood. We've

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<v Speaker 1>seen that one, that guy, the Fox.

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<v Speaker 4>No, okay, it's just weird to me that the animal

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<v Speaker 4>angles weird, Like at least I went with Aladdin.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a human. You've got this real affinity to

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<v Speaker 3>these animals. Well, they're very personified. It's been a trend

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<v Speaker 3>on TikTok. It's called the hear me Out. The idea

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<v Speaker 3>behind it is hear me out. But this character is hot,

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<v Speaker 3>and people have been listing the people that they find attractive.

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<v Speaker 3>My biggest problem is that, like a lot of the

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<v Speaker 3>TikTok audience are jen z right, and so they're talking

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<v Speaker 3>about movies or Disney shows and whatever that I have

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<v Speaker 3>no idea who they're talking about, because there's that gap

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<v Speaker 3>in the generations where I haven't seen a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>the cartoons for the past, but I don't know decade.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, hence why you come to life on cart and

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing a TikTok trend two weeks later. But also

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<v Speaker 1>hear me out, I've got two more Eric the Prince

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<v Speaker 1>from Little Mermaid Hot.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you would?

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<v Speaker 4>It's concerning to me how into this you are because

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<v Speaker 4>I watched so many kids cartoons and get off on

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<v Speaker 4>so many.

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<v Speaker 2>What like, what is the link? I'm so confused. This

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<v Speaker 2>is true, It's true. I'm a faster, very good vibe. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>back to the animal thing. Okay, that's it. That's a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Back to the other thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You're welcome, guys, and you can all think about it yourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Just take a little mental note, who's that animated character

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<v Speaker 1>that you find hot?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't find it strange that you find the human

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<v Speaker 3>like the personified versions of cartoons attractive. I do find

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<v Speaker 3>it somewhat strange when they're very animalistic, like Barney really.

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<v Speaker 2>Threw me for six.

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<v Speaker 3>When you said big Bird, I was like bird like,

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<v Speaker 3>I think more Kentucky Fried Chicken when I think about

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<v Speaker 3>big Bird, rather than like, oh yeah, I could date

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<v Speaker 3>big Bird.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to be clear.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think big Bird was hot, just Martie, why

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<v Speaker 1>did you throw him in.

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<v Speaker 2>There against Big Bird? I thought, did big Bird?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you? I thought it could be your hall past?

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<v Speaker 3>And we've talked about this.

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<v Speaker 2>For too long now, so I didn't want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>It at all. To be honest, I'm like, why are

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<v Speaker 3>we still here? I have a question for you guys,

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<v Speaker 3>And I guess this is kind of like my own

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<v Speaker 3>ask gun cut in some way. And it was basical

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<v Speaker 3>of a situation that happened the other night when we

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<v Speaker 3>went out for dinner, and it's a place that we've

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<v Speaker 3>been to before. You know how, they often will print

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<v Speaker 3>out the receipt that your bill right, and they'll bring

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<v Speaker 3>it to your table and and a couple of minutes

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<v Speaker 3>later someone will walk around with either an FBus machine

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<v Speaker 3>or an iPad. This one was an iPad for me

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<v Speaker 3>to pay, and as I went to pay for it,

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<v Speaker 3>I noticed that it was roughly I'm trying to do

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<v Speaker 3>the math in my head, it was about fifteen percent

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<v Speaker 3>more than what the printed out bill had said. And

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<v Speaker 3>in my head I was like, oh, maybe it must

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<v Speaker 3>have like a service charge, you know, or is it

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<v Speaker 3>a public holiday, you know. I didn't really understand why,

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<v Speaker 3>And as I was tapping my phone onto the screen,

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<v Speaker 3>I realized that they had automatically selected on their own

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<v Speaker 3>iPad for me to tip. And if that's here, if

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<v Speaker 3>I had wanted to not tip, I would have had

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<v Speaker 3>to select a different button. So it had already kind

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<v Speaker 3>of they had already assumed that I would be tipping,

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<v Speaker 3>and they had put the amountain for me to just

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<v Speaker 3>directly pay.

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<v Speaker 2>Good way to get the tips?

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<v Speaker 3>Though, do you think that's really unethical? I thought it

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<v Speaker 3>was really sneaky, and it made me feel a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit uncomfortable. To be honest, we do preach a lot

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<v Speaker 3>about know your worth. Maybe they know they were maybe

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm worth a temperside like this bitch was pain

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<v Speaker 3>the ass to deal with it is awkward, Like I

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<v Speaker 3>always feel awkward when they hand you the iPad and

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<v Speaker 3>they're looking. Sometimes they'll look away and give you the

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<v Speaker 3>respect of like you put your payment details in, you

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<v Speaker 3>put your tip, and I won't do anything. Sometimes they

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<v Speaker 3>stand over your shoulder and they watch as you're picking

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<v Speaker 3>the tip. You're really uncomfortable when they're standing next to

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<v Speaker 3>me because I feel as though it's this like implied

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<v Speaker 3>if you don't do it, you're a really bad person.

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<v Speaker 3>And sometimes like the price of going out for dinner

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<v Speaker 3>right now is really expensive, and I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>come across as a real tied ass. And I have

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<v Speaker 3>no problem tipping if I've had really nice service or

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<v Speaker 3>if it's like a special event. This was like a

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<v Speaker 3>chill dinner down the road from somewhere that we order

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<v Speaker 3>from all the time. It was an exceptional service. It

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<v Speaker 3>was absolutely fine. It was absolutely average, five out of ten,

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<v Speaker 3>nothing to complain about. I got exactly what I expected

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<v Speaker 3>out of that situation. I feel a little bit strange

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<v Speaker 3>about the fact that in Australia, where we're not a

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<v Speaker 3>tipping culture, it's becoming that you're not a very good

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<v Speaker 3>person if you select no tip, And I felt really

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<v Speaker 3>awkward about it being automatically assumed that that was what

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<v Speaker 3>I was supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's implied that you're a bad person.

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<v Speaker 4>But I would go against that and say, we are

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<v Speaker 4>a tipping culture, but it's not expected. It's like you

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<v Speaker 4>have to tip in the USA, you have to, you

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<v Speaker 4>don't have to do it in Australia. But we are

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<v Speaker 4>very largely tipping culture.

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<v Speaker 3>Still, do you just think yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The difference is though, is that our salary is not

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<v Speaker 1>based on a tipping salary. So the reason why it's

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<v Speaker 1>more compulsory in the States is because their wages are

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<v Speaker 1>subsidized to buy the tip income that they would make.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they do.

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<v Speaker 3>They get four dollars fifteen hour and then they make

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<v Speaker 3>their money on tip totally, which is absolutely not the

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<v Speaker 3>case in Australia. And I think it depends on what

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<v Speaker 3>the services that you're being provided, Like you're paying for

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<v Speaker 3>exceptional service, did you get ten percent more from that service?

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<v Speaker 1>And also I think it's different if the restaurant. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>some restaurants have a cheaper price for takeaway versus their

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<v Speaker 1>price that they have for the items which you eat

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<v Speaker 1>in store. And I think I know the restaurant that

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about, Keisha, and their prices on their items

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<v Speaker 1>if you eat in store already slightly more expensive, so

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<v Speaker 1>they've already marked up their tip in that. So then

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<v Speaker 1>to put the tip on and expect that you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to pay for a tip is a mandatory to eat there.

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<v Speaker 2>That to me just feels cheeky.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was a bit tcheeky too, And.

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<v Speaker 2>No one wants to feel like a tight ask to

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<v Speaker 2>go back and be like no.

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<v Speaker 3>Tip for you, Yeah, while they're watching to well, this

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<v Speaker 3>was not a fancy, this is not an event.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it depends on the restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I do tip, I don't tip it like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if it's a fifty dollar meal and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking like you know, take away that we decided to

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<v Speaker 1>just eat there, there's hardly any service. You get your

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<v Speaker 1>own water, like, I'm not tipping for that because there's

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<v Speaker 1>been no service. But if it's a nice sit down

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<v Speaker 1>meal where someone's actually come spent the time to bring

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<v Speaker 1>my photo to me and brought me a napkin and

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<v Speaker 1>all that sort of stuff, like absolutely I'll tip, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think it depends on what the situation is. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not tipping for the person who put an ice cream

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<v Speaker 1>into your ice cream cone.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not tipping for the person who made your coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>So why are you tipping for something that feels like

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<v Speaker 1>a takeaway but you just sat at a tableause.

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<v Speaker 3>Coffee in Australia's like ten dollars a coup I've also

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<v Speaker 3>just realized the thing that confuses me the most. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>the QR codes where you order yourself. I love a

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<v Speaker 3>QR code because it means that you can have a

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<v Speaker 3>scroll through, there's no pressure on you to make you

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<v Speaker 3>know the time of which it's really easy to split

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<v Speaker 3>the bills. But when you get to the end and

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<v Speaker 3>they're like do you want to tip, I'm like, for

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<v Speaker 3>what I ordered myself, I think it's more myself.

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<v Speaker 2>You should be tipping me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But the good thing with that is at least

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<v Speaker 1>you pay for it as you go, so like no

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<v Speaker 1>one's watching you say no tip to that. That's the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not about whether you should or shouldn't tip. The

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<v Speaker 1>option is there. It's when the iPad is brought over

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<v Speaker 1>and it's the expectation that they stand there for you.

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<v Speaker 3>To do it in their presence. That's the difference.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think, like, yeah, thank god for the QR

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<v Speaker 2>code system.

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<v Speaker 3>All about that. Okay, So I guess what I'm saying

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<v Speaker 3>is that my unsubscribed for the week is assumed tips

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<v Speaker 3>on an FBOs machine when you haven't actually told the

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<v Speaker 3>person that you want to tip themscribed.

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<v Speaker 1>What are your vibes of the week, assume tipping? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well my vibe this week. Look, it's coming into Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment. And before I say this, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a mom and a dad, or if you have little

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<v Speaker 1>kids around you at the moment, please skip ahead right now,

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I don't want to spoil Christmas for any children,

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<v Speaker 1>and I will not be responsible for that. So, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, if there are children anywhere within your vicinity

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<v Speaker 1>who might listen to this, run to the stop button

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<v Speaker 1>and stop it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you reckon that there's many kids listening to Life

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<v Speaker 3>on Cut? We do swear a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>We do.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think there could be a couple of mums

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<v Speaker 1>who are like playing it while they're cleaning the house,

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<v Speaker 1>or might have kids ambiently around them. Okay, so I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I've given you enough buffer and enough warning.

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<v Speaker 1>Now my vibe for this week is a company called

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<v Speaker 1>the mail Room Coat. Now it is a small business.

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<v Speaker 1>What they specialize in is personalized letters from Santa Claus.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on the website now. They're fifty four dollars ninety nine,

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<v Speaker 1>so fifty five dollars each. And what you can do

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<v Speaker 1>is you can go on and you can personalize a

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<v Speaker 1>message from Santa. But it is so much more special

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<v Speaker 1>than that, because the packaging that these come in looks

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<v Speaker 1>identical to what you would expect something that came from

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<v Speaker 1>the North Pole to look like. They have the most

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<v Speaker 1>incredible little stamps on them. They're all calligraphy, handwritten. They

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<v Speaker 1>have like a little wax emblem on the back. And

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<v Speaker 1>the thought and the care that has gone into creating

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<v Speaker 1>these little customized and personalized letters from Santa are amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I got the one, which especially with the

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<v Speaker 1>one that was written for Maley because she's starting school

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<v Speaker 1>next year, it made me cry. It was so beautifully

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<v Speaker 1>done and I cannot wait to give to the girls.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're a parent, like I.

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<v Speaker 1>Said, I think that it is such a beautiful idea

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<v Speaker 1>and the fact that it has been created by a

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<v Speaker 1>female led small business, like get behind it.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't realize, and I'd be interested to know from

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<v Speaker 4>other parents, but I didn't realize how young some kids

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<v Speaker 4>were changing their mind I still, even though you've put

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<v Speaker 4>the warning and I'm trying to still be a bit

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<v Speaker 4>diplomatic here, how young kids were when they're changing their

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<v Speaker 4>minds about their idea of Santa. I was listening to

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<v Speaker 4>Vogan Joanne on my therapist Ghost to Me, and Vogue

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<v Speaker 4>was saying something about her little boy and how he

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<v Speaker 4>mentioned something the other day about how he doesn't believe anymore,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think he's like five years old, and she

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<v Speaker 4>was really shocked, and she talked about the way she

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<v Speaker 4>handled it, and she's like, well, don't you ruin that

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<v Speaker 4>for me because I still want my presence. Don't you

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<v Speaker 4>say that out loud, like she was trying.

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<v Speaker 3>To lean in, and but I was really shocked at

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, is that that age?

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<v Speaker 2>It's happening now, like five years old. I would have

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<v Speaker 2>been that age.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think it's because I had an older brother

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<v Speaker 3>who's ruined it for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that's really sad for me, because, like I remember,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Marley's five, and she absolutely believes wholeheartedly. And

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<v Speaker 1>for me, it's really interesting the things that she does

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<v Speaker 1>believe in and the things that she doesn't. So like

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<v Speaker 1>Santa Claus and the Truth fairy and all that, there

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<v Speaker 1>is no question she believes in those things absolutely. But

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<v Speaker 1>like monsters, no, they're not real, you know, Like she

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<v Speaker 1>she picks and chooses the things that are fantasy. Unicorns, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>unicorns are real, just haven't seen one yet. Like she

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<v Speaker 1>still has this really beautiful imagination around the things that

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<v Speaker 1>she believes in. But I vividly remember the time that

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<v Speaker 1>I was told the alternate and I'm still also being

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<v Speaker 1>careful about it. My cousins and my sister one day

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<v Speaker 1>were like, guess what, And I remember how much it

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<v Speaker 1>ruined it for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I was devastated when I found out.

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<v Speaker 3>Devastated. I don't remember the age. I don't know the moment.

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<v Speaker 3>There wasn't a moment.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was like a slow burn for me,

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<v Speaker 4>and I probably faked it a few years, like to

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<v Speaker 4>get more from my parents.

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<v Speaker 1>Nah, mine was like an instant moment of revelation. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe Santa Claus is hot, Okay, continue.

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<v Speaker 3>Santa Claus is seventy. Oh, I get it overweight. If

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<v Speaker 3>you're language gifts, Daddy vibe, you're cooked, Father Christmas, you

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<v Speaker 3>are actually so cooked.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought you would have preferred Rudolph to be honest

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<v Speaker 4>with the Animal team.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, what is your vibe as a leader? Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>So my vibe is a vibe that I have sort

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<v Speaker 4>of vibed multiple times before, and I say that it's

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<v Speaker 4>the same, same but different. You guys might remember the

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<v Speaker 4>podcast I have vibed a few times. It's called The Trial.

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<v Speaker 3>Lucy let Be was a big one that I vibed.

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<v Speaker 3>She was the nurse that is now one of the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest serial killers in the UK. So what it is

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<v Speaker 3>is the series is the trial, but they keep focusing

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<v Speaker 3>on different cases, and the one at the moment that

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<v Speaker 3>I am deep in is the trial of Ditty. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's a look at what is happening currently to whatever

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<v Speaker 3>you want to call him, Puff Daddy, p Diddy, Diddy,

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<v Speaker 3>Sean Combs, whatever. So it's a journalistic look into what

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<v Speaker 3>is happening. And so they always go into the trial

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<v Speaker 3>as it's happening, and then they come straight back out

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<v Speaker 3>and they put a pod cast out that day with

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<v Speaker 3>this one with Diddy because the trial hasn't officially started yet,

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<v Speaker 3>but he is in prison. They're doing a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>different interviews about people that were in his life and

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<v Speaker 3>just doing at the moment, they're sort of talking about

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<v Speaker 3>things that happened, what it looked like the lens we

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<v Speaker 3>have now, but they were interviewing people that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he personally hired to go to his parties.

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<v Speaker 1>The story is so horrifying and there are so many

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<v Speaker 1>complexities to it that there's been a couple of times

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<v Speaker 1>where we've discussed whether or not we would unpack it

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<v Speaker 1>on the pod. But I think the fact that it

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<v Speaker 1>is an ongoing case, and the fact that there is

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<v Speaker 1>so much to it and so much backstory and so

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<v Speaker 1>many people's stories that intertwine into it, I would worry

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<v Speaker 1>that we wouldn't do it justice or wouldn't be able

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<v Speaker 1>to report on it correctly because it's a constantly moving case.

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<v Speaker 1>I will absolutely listen to this because, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I find it fascinating but horrifying at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think anyone who's been reading into some of

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<v Speaker 1>the details around p Diddy, the details around to haunt

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<v Speaker 1>you like it is absolutely petrifying what went on.

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<v Speaker 3>It's interesting to me that this information is coming out

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<v Speaker 3>now because I've seen like their documentary that's been released.

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<v Speaker 3>It was either on Disney or Prime, I can't remember,

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<v Speaker 3>but I flicked and I thought, Oh, I really want

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<v Speaker 3>to watch that, but it's so new that you've got

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<v Speaker 3>to pay for it. It's interesting to me that they're

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<v Speaker 3>able to make content around this because the trial hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>happened yet. And I'm not saying that to delegitimize any

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<v Speaker 3>of it whatsoever. I absolutely believe the people who are

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<v Speaker 3>coming out with these stories. It's only interesting to me

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<v Speaker 3>that if they come out in the media, are they

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<v Speaker 3>then able to use it in court because of the

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<v Speaker 3>whole like fair trial situation, you know how they're like,

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<v Speaker 3>you can't influence a story that's going on in court

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<v Speaker 3>by public perception and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>It also shows the incredibly blurred lines now between entertainment

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<v Speaker 1>and also like real crime. And I think that our

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<v Speaker 1>insatiable appetite for wanting to know things as it's happening,

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<v Speaker 1>like access to the courtroom, access to the trial, We've

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<v Speaker 1>had it in the past, and so it's become the

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<v Speaker 1>expectation now with these really massive, high profile cases.

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<v Speaker 4>It also has things like and I guess you don't

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<v Speaker 4>know the credibility right, Like it is a journalist. It's

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to be as factual as possible, but they have

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<v Speaker 4>sources come out that know his treatment on the inside

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<v Speaker 4>at the moment, the way he's been treated in prison,

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<v Speaker 4>that he's getting slightly longer showers and he's getting extra time.

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<v Speaker 3>And things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's called the trial.

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<v Speaker 4>Literally anywhere you get your podcasts and you just go

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<v Speaker 4>through each season is about a different person.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, my vibe of this week, to be completely honest,

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<v Speaker 3>if it wasn't getting high on our own supply, it

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<v Speaker 3>would have been the interview that you did with Elizabeth

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<v Speaker 3>Gilbert yesterday. So we released that episode yesterday. It is

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<v Speaker 3>one of my favorite episodes of Life Uncut. Ever, it

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<v Speaker 3>was one of my favorite interviews too. I just got

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<v Speaker 3>so much out of it. She speaks about relationships and

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<v Speaker 3>love and grief in a way I have never ever

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<v Speaker 3>heard articulated. She speaks about being singleless and we kind

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<v Speaker 3>of rephrased this and we put it as single needs

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<v Speaker 3>a rebrand. But she speaks about this thing called emotionally

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<v Speaker 3>autonomous and how she feels so content in her life

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<v Speaker 3>now being on her own and doing things in the

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<v Speaker 3>way that she wants to do them because they bring

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<v Speaker 3>her joy, not because she's throwing herself entirely into a relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>And how she's been able to be a much better

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<v Speaker 3>writer and produce a lot more content because she's not

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<v Speaker 3>wasting a lot of this energy pursuing relationships in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Way that she used to.

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<v Speaker 1>For anyoney doesn't know who Elizabeth Gilbert is. She's the

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<v Speaker 1>author of Eat, Prey, Love, so she is a hugely

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<v Speaker 1>prolific author.

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<v Speaker 3>She has had many number one best sellers.

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<v Speaker 1>But also she speaks about aging and I think as

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<v Speaker 1>a woman this idea of like losing your looks, losing

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<v Speaker 1>your value in society, but how there's actually benefits and

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<v Speaker 1>positives to that as well.

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<v Speaker 3>She was remarkable. She was one of my favorite interviews

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<v Speaker 3>we've ever done. Well. My actual vibe for the week

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<v Speaker 3>is for any of the either oily scalped girls or

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<v Speaker 3>girls who are sick of having to wash their hair

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<v Speaker 3>every day. Now bear with me because it's not the

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<v Speaker 3>cheapest product I've ever recommended.

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<v Speaker 2>It is called.

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<v Speaker 3>Christoph Robin Cleansing purifying scrub with sea salt. Now it's

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred and fifty mills and it's seventy two dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>But I had one of these jars for an entire

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<v Speaker 3>year and I used it once a week. So the

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<v Speaker 3>way it works, you get literally a tablespoon.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all you need.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the most emulsifying product I have ever used,

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<v Speaker 3>and you just pop it into your scalp exactly how

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<v Speaker 3>you do a shampoo, and you lather it up and

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<v Speaker 3>you leave it for a couple of minutes. So whether

0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:08.159
<v Speaker 3>you want to do that while you're like scrubbing the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of your body or maybe shaving your legs or

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<v Speaker 3>like whatever you do in the shower, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>You can take a couple of minutes to let it

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<v Speaker 3>kind of sit in there and you rinse it out,

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<v Speaker 3>you condition as normal. You will need to wash your

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<v Speaker 3>hair half as much. I don't know what is in

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<v Speaker 3>this magic. It is not like any other scalp scrub

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<v Speaker 3>I have used. It has something in it that just

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<v Speaker 3>works ten times more. So Yeah, I have been absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>loving this product. As I said, I've used it for

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<v Speaker 3>over a year now. I really took my time with

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<v Speaker 3>recommending it because I know it's not like the cheapest

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<v Speaker 3>thing available, and it has made me need to wash

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<v Speaker 3>my hair twice a week maximum, sometimes a little bit less.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I can't do that, I think because I go

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<v Speaker 4>to the gym every day. I sweat my hair sweats

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<v Speaker 4>so much.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to try this because I can sauna in

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<v Speaker 3>between and it's still okay. It got rid of all

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<v Speaker 3>of my dandriff. I don't know how it works. It's

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<v Speaker 3>got magic inside of it. Right. Although you saw scrubbers,

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<v Speaker 3>scalp scrubbers, it is called the Christoph Robin Cleansing purifying

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<v Speaker 3>scrub It's available at Mecca at Adore Beauty. I think

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<v Speaker 3>you can get it from its own website as well.

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<v Speaker 3>And we will put all of the links to our

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<v Speaker 3>vibes on our website and they're also in our show notes. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>let's get into the questions. Question number one.

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<v Speaker 4>My ex husband left me and after four years of IVF,

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<v Speaker 4>we have embryos in storage. We have one beautiful little

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<v Speaker 4>IVF baby girl who is my entire world. But I

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<v Speaker 4>would love to make her a big sister one day too.

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<v Speaker 4>He has so easily just said, hey, let's just donate

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<v Speaker 4>the spare embryos. I am mortified by how easily he

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<v Speaker 4>has suggested this, and absolutely am not interested in donating.

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<v Speaker 3>I want them. They are my babies.

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<v Speaker 4>I walked through the toughest times of my life undergoing IVF,

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<v Speaker 4>and on my eighth transfer, I got my beautiful girl.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm thirty three, and I don't know if I should

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<v Speaker 4>freeze my eggs now and then get a sperm donor

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<v Speaker 4>or wait until I might meet someone PSA.

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<v Speaker 3>I will continue to pay.

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<v Speaker 4>For storage for my embryo babies, as I love them too.

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<v Speaker 4>I also didn't see our marriage being something that would end,

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<v Speaker 4>but he clearly fell out of love with me and

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<v Speaker 4>left me ten months postpartum. Gosh, oh my god, that

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<v Speaker 4>is so hard, so hard, and I'm so sorry that

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<v Speaker 4>you're going through this. There's no clear cut answer here,

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<v Speaker 4>but the one clear cut thing is, unfortunately, to use embryos,

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<v Speaker 4>you need to have both parties say that it's okay.

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<v Speaker 4>You need to have consent from both parties, even if

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<v Speaker 4>the embryos have been made. So Ben and I have embryos,

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<v Speaker 4>and we both have to say yes when it's time

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<v Speaker 4>to actually implant them or donate them or.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 4>It has to be consensual from both parties, So this

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<v Speaker 4>is obviously the issue here is is you don't agree

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<v Speaker 4>on what you should do. It sounds like the only

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<v Speaker 4>thing that he is going to agree on is that

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<v Speaker 4>he doesn't want from the sound that he doesn't want

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<v Speaker 4>you to use them.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a question for you, Britt, it's very personal.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you and Ben have a big conversation prior around

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<v Speaker 1>all of the options like if you break up, what

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<v Speaker 1>happens to those embryos? If you stay together but you

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<v Speaker 1>have more than the amount of children you want to have,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you do with them? Did you have that

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<v Speaker 1>conversation before you froze embryos?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we did.

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<v Speaker 4>We did have that conversation, and we went so far

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<v Speaker 4>as to talk about if one of us dies, what happens,

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<v Speaker 4>because that's a whole nother question if someone unexpectedly dies.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like if someone dies, like go for gold,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not here to stop you.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, no more.

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<v Speaker 4>You still have to have that written down legally, so

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<v Speaker 4>you have everyone has to have that discussion, and you

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<v Speaker 4>have to have said what you want because there's no oh,

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<v Speaker 4>well he's passed away, Like I think that's why Eldie

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<v Speaker 4>pull In when we spoke to her. It was so

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<v Speaker 4>difficult for her to do what she did. And in

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<v Speaker 4>case you don't know that, Eldie's partner, Chumpy passed away

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<v Speaker 4>really suddenly in a shallow water blackout, and within like

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<v Speaker 4>twenty four hours they had retrieved sperm from him to use.

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<v Speaker 3>But that was very difficult because they had to go

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<v Speaker 3>to his family really quickly, get all this consent, get

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<v Speaker 3>lawyers involved, within like a twenty four hour period. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not easy.

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<v Speaker 2>So talk to me about what you guys decided.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we decided.

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<v Speaker 4>I said that if I passed away, for example, I said,

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<v Speaker 4>Ben can still have them if he wants. If he

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<v Speaker 4>wants to go and have that baby like with a surrogate,

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<v Speaker 4>that's fine. But I didn't let him use my eggs

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<v Speaker 4>because I have eggs and embryos, so I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>him to go and just go for gold after I'm gone.

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<v Speaker 3>I just said, look, we already have babies, you can

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<v Speaker 3>use them. I also said that I would.

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<v Speaker 4>Donate them to my sister, because you can put people

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<v Speaker 4>that you want to donate down. But we didn't pick

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<v Speaker 4>a certain option if we split, other than we both

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<v Speaker 4>have to agree, so you don't have to write down

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<v Speaker 4>that they'll be disposed or that they'll be donated, But

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<v Speaker 4>we both did agree that we would happily donate them

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<v Speaker 4>if we both agreed we don't want them and we're separating,

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<v Speaker 4>I said, I'm happy for someone else to use our

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<v Speaker 4>baby because because if I can help someone else in

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<v Speaker 4>their life, but I don't want to know the person

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<v Speaker 4>that was my issue, So I don't want to watch

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<v Speaker 4>my baby grow up in the next suburb. That was

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<v Speaker 4>just a personal decision for me. But if I can

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<v Speaker 4>give someone else that live, then I said, yeah, Also.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't doesn't just mean donation to a separate family who

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<v Speaker 3>may want to use them. You can also choose to

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<v Speaker 3>donate them to medical research. Yes, so embryonic cells their

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<v Speaker 3>stem cells, right, so you can, through different processes turn

0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:14.280
<v Speaker 3>them into different types of cells that you may want

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<v Speaker 3>to use to study. And so a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 3>instead of having their embryos destroyed, they can choose to

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<v Speaker 3>put them down a medical research route as well. Comes

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<v Speaker 3>up with a lot of ethical questions. A lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people feel uncomfortable about that because of the emotional connection

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<v Speaker 3>that they have to the embryos.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, this is such a hard one and I feel

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<v Speaker 1>so genuinely fortunate that I've never had to walk this path.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't want to give people advice, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really want to tell people the impression that I

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<v Speaker 1>have all the way in which I would navigate this,

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<v Speaker 1>because I've simply never been in that situation. And what

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<v Speaker 1>a privilege that is. I think though, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>not answering this questions. It's more so to people who

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<v Speaker 1>are considering this for the future. I really think that

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<v Speaker 1>you have to have the conversations first about what it

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<v Speaker 1>is that you would do and agree on it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think even in your situation, Britt, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>tricky because I know that you kind of say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well, well if we break up, we're going to come to

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<v Speaker 1>an agreement. We can't do anything unless we both agree.

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<v Speaker 1>But then what if you find yourself in a situation

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<v Speaker 1>where you simply cannot agree, which is exactly what's happened

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<v Speaker 1>to this couple. And it's almost like going into marriage

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<v Speaker 1>and talking about, Okay, well, how are we going to

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<v Speaker 1>navigate things if we separate? It's another one of those

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<v Speaker 1>big decisions that you have to make in life.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the thing is here, And I say this from experience.

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<v Speaker 4>I understand how she's feeling because, and like you just said, Kisha,

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<v Speaker 4>it's easy to say, yes, you can donate them to research,

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<v Speaker 4>but I never thought, I don't even know how to

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<v Speaker 4>explain it.

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<v Speaker 3>I never thought I would have.

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<v Speaker 4>An attachment to an embryo, right because I've always been

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<v Speaker 4>pro abortion, and I always thought if I was in

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<v Speaker 4>a position that I fell pregnant and needed to have

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<v Speaker 4>an abortion, I always thought I could easily do that.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never been in that position. I'm very lucky.

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<v Speaker 4>Then when I had these embryos, and you guys might remember,

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<v Speaker 4>but when I did my first round and I only

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<v Speaker 4>got the one, and then it was not viable with life,

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<v Speaker 4>and I had to I don't even know what they

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<v Speaker 4>call it, destroy it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know the term, but you have to destroy it.

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<v Speaker 3>There was this real sadness that I felt because I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, it's actually my baby now, Ben and I

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<v Speaker 3>have created that, and I know that that would turn

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<v Speaker 3>into our child. And it was this really weird feeling of.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so it's a cell, it's so small, it's not

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<v Speaker 4>But then there was this attachment that I had to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it's the start of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, so well, it is the child right, it's made.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just that it's still at that cellular's tiny level.

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<v Speaker 3>But I understand why you have said you're happy to

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<v Speaker 3>keep paying for your storage because you don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>make the decision where you're saying they're gone. I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to either destroy them or donate them.

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<v Speaker 4>Unfortunately for you, hear all you can do, and this

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<v Speaker 4>is what my suggestion would be if if you know

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<v Speaker 4>you don't want to donate them to someone else, you

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<v Speaker 4>don't have to.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't use them unless your husband says too. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think your best option here is if you've said

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<v Speaker 3>you're happy to keep paying for storage, you can only

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<v Speaker 3>pay for it for I think it's ten years. So

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<v Speaker 3>if you want to hold onto those and keep paying

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<v Speaker 3>for the storage and see what happens over the next

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<v Speaker 3>ten years, that's what I would suggest you do. You

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<v Speaker 3>don't really have that many other.

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<v Speaker 4>Options because you both need to agree, So your only

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<v Speaker 4>option now is to hold onto it and hope that

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<v Speaker 4>maybe he changes his mind, or maybe you feel a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit differently about what you want.

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<v Speaker 3>To do with them. But I really feel for you,

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<v Speaker 3>I really do.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like such a futile situation if this occurs

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<v Speaker 1>like this position, because paying for storage is not cheap,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're then throwing money away for within one decade

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<v Speaker 1>to be told that you have to make a decision regardless,

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<v Speaker 1>So you are essentially just kicking that decision down the track.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're not only kicking the decision down the track,

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<v Speaker 1>you're throwing money away by doing that as well. And

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't seem like a responsible decision. It feels like

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<v Speaker 1>you're almost offsetting a big and hard decision that you

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<v Speaker 1>have to make because you don't want to make it now.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would guess that if you and your husband

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<v Speaker 1>have separated and he's made it clear that he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want you to use those embryos, I don't think he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to change his mind. Maybe in this very very

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<v Speaker 1>clear situation, And to respond to this person's question, sit

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<v Speaker 1>down and have a really honest conversation with your ex

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<v Speaker 1>husband around this, around how hard this is for you,

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not there is an option for you to

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<v Speaker 1>use them, And if he's very clear and black and

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<v Speaker 1>white on it, then I think it would make more

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<v Speaker 1>sense to make that decision now rather than trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make it in ten years time when it's taken away

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:16.800
<v Speaker 1>from you anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>But also you did ask one other question here. You said,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thirty three.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I should freeze my eggs and

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<v Speaker 1>get a sperm doner or just wait and see if

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<v Speaker 1>I meet someone. I think if people have the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to and they have the access to the funds, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's obviously not cheap, it's always a great idea to

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<v Speaker 1>consider whether or not you want to freeze your eggs

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<v Speaker 1>because it gives you, it gives you more options down

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<v Speaker 1>the track potentially. So if you want to do that

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<v Speaker 1>now as a thirty three year old, freeze your eggs

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<v Speaker 1>just in case, it might give you a sense of like, okay,

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:48.639
<v Speaker 1>there's more time to make decisions in that sense, rather

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<v Speaker 1>than holding onto these embryos that you have to make

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 1>a decision about at some point. I think egg freezing

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<v Speaker 1>could be a really good option to give you peace

0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:55.919
<v Speaker 1>of mind.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember when this has still been going on until recently,

0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:03.199
<v Speaker 3>Soara from Modern Family, her and her ex husband, you

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<v Speaker 3>guys might know his name is Nick Loeb, but they

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 3>have been in an open court battle for years about

0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 3>their embryos because they split, so they had embryos, they split,

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 3>Sophia doesn't want them, and her ex does.

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<v Speaker 4>It is such a hard discussion because he's saying they're

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 4>still my children, like I still want them to live,

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 4>and she's saying, yeah, but they're mine too, and I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't imagine that feeling when two people feel so

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:33.880
<v Speaker 4>passionately about their unborn child. But ultimately she will always win,

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 4>Like ultimately two people have to say, so they just won't.

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<v Speaker 4>They won't ever be created. But this was like a

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<v Speaker 4>three year court battle.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to be careful with using the words like

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<v Speaker 3>unborn child because for a lot of people, they are

0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:49.520
<v Speaker 3>just a collection of cells and they are a potential

0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 3>of hope. I think that it can get very ethically

0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:57.560
<v Speaker 3>ambiguous when we're talking about comparing frozen embryos and a

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:01.720
<v Speaker 3>collection of what eight cells to a child. But for

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:03.640
<v Speaker 3>the person who's written this question in I think the

0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 3>reason that this is even more complex for you is

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 3>because you do have an IVF baby, so you do

0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 3>have the result of one of those embryos being transferred,

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:12.960
<v Speaker 3>and so for her, I think there's a lot of

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 3>an emotional connection to them because there's a possibility that

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 3>you could have that love again, you know, and that's

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 3>maybe why you're finding it so hard to let go of.

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:23.520
<v Speaker 1>And I do think that that's really important only from

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 1>the perspective of like, and I talk about this as

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 1>someone who has had an abortion. I don't conflate my

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 1>abortion as being the same as the children that I've had.

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:34.320
<v Speaker 1>And there will be people who disagree with this. There

0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:37.479
<v Speaker 1>will be people who there will be absolutely, but I

0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:39.360
<v Speaker 1>do think that there is a point as to which

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:42.640
<v Speaker 1>that changes. And like, you know, obviously everybody has different

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 1>feelings around this, but it's very hard to be pro

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 1>choice and also sit on the fence of being like,

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 1>at every single stage of conception that is a baby.

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 1>I think that there is like, yeah, it's a really

0:29:56.520 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 1>ethically hard question to unpack.

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:00.080
<v Speaker 2>It's because it's.

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 4>It's also linked to whatever your current situation is, Like,

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:06.880
<v Speaker 4>this feels different because it wasn't easy for you. You did

0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:09.520
<v Speaker 4>eight rounds to get your one child, and you know

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 4>that your hope exactly like you said, Laurie, your hope

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 4>and your chance remains in that freezer. And I think

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:18.640
<v Speaker 4>that's going back to Sophia and her husband, that's probably

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 4>exactly the same feeling he might very well feel like

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 4>that could be his only chance. He might also very

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:27.959
<v Speaker 4>well feel like that is his link to stay connected

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 4>to his ex, that is his link to money from

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:30.000
<v Speaker 4>his ex.

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 3>You do not know the situation, and it.

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Is so murky.

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, like I just said, there's no other option.

0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 4>Here for you to do it other than continue to

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 4>pay storage and have those conversations with your ex husband.

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:40.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Far, it's such a big ethical decision, isn't it okay?

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Question number two. I have been invited to spend Christmas

0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 1>with my partner's family interstate. We are in our mid

0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 1>twenties and we've dated for almost six years. My family

0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 1>has been disapproving and are very disappointed when I told

0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 1>them about not having Christmas at home, and they've tried

0:30:57.120 --> 0:30:59.840
<v Speaker 1>to guilt trip me out of accepting the invite. However,

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 1>I really want to go. How do I approach the

0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:03.920
<v Speaker 1>topic again with them? And is it wrong to spend

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:05.680
<v Speaker 1>one Christmas away from your family?

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:09.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's not. No, it's fine. Tell your family to

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 2>suck it up.

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 4>No, it is fine, But it's also laden with guilt

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 4>on both parts.

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:16.840
<v Speaker 3>And I felt that I'm thirty seven and I'm going

0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 3>away for Christmas.

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 4>This year, and I still feel guilty because it's such

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 4>a special time for a lot of families. I totally

0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 4>understand it. It doesn't sound like you feel guilty, it's

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 4>just your family that's making you feel guilty. What I

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:28.840
<v Speaker 4>usually do because I have spent a few Christmases away,

0:31:28.880 --> 0:31:32.320
<v Speaker 4>now I try and make that time up either side.

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 4>So for this Christmas, in a few weeks, I'm going

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 4>up and we're having a family Christmas before Christmas, so

0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 4>like we all get together, we do a Chris Kringle,

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, a couple of weeks before. I think it's

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 4>the first weekend of December, and then I'll go away

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:44.240
<v Speaker 4>for Christmas.

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 3>And it's a part of growing up. Unfortunately, you can't

0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 3>spend every Christmas for the rest of your life with

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 3>your family. Maybe you can, and you're very lucky, but

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 3>at the end of the day, there's usually two families

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 3>involved when you're married or in a relationship, and you

0:31:56.760 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 3>need to sort of share your time.

0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:01.200
<v Speaker 4>I think for a lot of parents, I can only

0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:05.520
<v Speaker 4>imagine it's a really heart wrenching milestone absolutely to see

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 4>that your kids have gotten to the point where they

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 4>don't need you anymore, and.

0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 3>That even makes me emotional. You can tell I got

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:15.080
<v Speaker 3>my period today. I've cried three times. Fuck, like I'm

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 3>crying of a Christmas. What's wrong with me? What's actually

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 3>wrong with me?

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:21.560
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I want to spend Christmas.

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 3>Because I love my family. I want to spend but yeah,

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 3>it's like it's a time for your parents. Like I think,

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 3>give your parents a bit of grace, because yeah, that's exactly.

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 2>What I was gonna say. Thinking about when the time

0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:38.480
<v Speaker 2>comes when Marley and Lola one year say, oh hey, mom,

0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 2>I've good boyfriend and I don't want to spend Christmas

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:42.240
<v Speaker 2>with you, I want to spend it with their family.

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 3>Or chain them to the bed. Obviously.

0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, maybe not exactly, but that will be really

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:48.480
<v Speaker 1>hard because it's a it's a letting go of what

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:51.800
<v Speaker 1>has been your family's tradition. It's a letting go of

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 1>what was your nuclear family, like the family that you

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 1>spend all of your time with, and just realizing that

0:32:57.960 --> 0:32:59.920
<v Speaker 1>actually you're not a little girl anymore. Then you're gonna

0:32:59.920 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 1>be spending that time with another family.

0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:04.640
<v Speaker 1>I think it's really really important that either you guys

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 1>do alternating Christmases, so like this year you might spend

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 1>it with his family. Next year, you both spend Christmas

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Day with your family. That works really well in some households,

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 1>or even as you said, like spending time before or after. However,

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I do think that sometimes Christmas Day can become a

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:22.080
<v Speaker 1>real sticking point. And if you're always the family that's

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 1>sacrificing Christmas Day because the other family has something bigger,

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 1>or more interesting or whatever else going on, I think

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 1>that that's when you know it can become a real

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 1>source spot in a family. Yeah, I really look at this,

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:35.560
<v Speaker 1>and I think that this is just such a huge

0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 1>transitional part of your life and for your parents' life

0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 1>as well. And you can even have a really honest

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:43.960
<v Speaker 1>adult conversation with your mum, who is the one who's

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:46.400
<v Speaker 1>making you feel guilty, and say, Mum, I know this

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:48.400
<v Speaker 1>is really really hard, and I love you and I

0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 1>love spending Christmas with you and with our family. But

0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:52.960
<v Speaker 1>you'll also have to know that I've now been with

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 1>my partner for six years and this is just a

0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:58.000
<v Speaker 1>part of the fact that I'm also an adult now

0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 1>and we have to kind of negotiate eight different families.

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:04.480
<v Speaker 1>I wonder how she would respond to that, because you know,

0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 1>I think even though you're in your twenties, sometimes we

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 1>sometimes when we're back with our family, we instantly act

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 1>younger like, we instantly act like the child instead of

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 1>like having the conversations that are like quite adult conversations

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 1>with our parents.

0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 2>God, I don't do you do?

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:22.240
<v Speaker 3>I think it depends. I think I'm such an adult

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:22.880
<v Speaker 3>in my family.

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I feel like my parents are children your child. No,

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:30.400
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, I just understand why it's upsetting, and

0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:32.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean to maybe put myself back in that place.

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 1>When I was in my twenties, I remember I spent

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of Christmases with my ex boyfriend's family, and

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I ever appreciated how hard that might

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:43.120
<v Speaker 1>have been for my family. I knew it caused a

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:44.879
<v Speaker 1>bit of a bit of tension, but I was kind

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 1>of like, get over it whatever, I get to make

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 1>my own decisions. But now I look back at it,

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:50.880
<v Speaker 1>and I go, oh, of course that would.

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Have been hurtful.

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:53.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, especially because he's a fuck with Yeah, I know, right,

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:55.600
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not even with him anymore exactly.

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:57.040
<v Speaker 4>I think the big thing here to say to your

0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:59.320
<v Speaker 4>parents too, is is just to lean into the fact

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:01.400
<v Speaker 4>that you have been with him for six years and

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:04.560
<v Speaker 4>this is your first Christmas away, So either your partner

0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 4>has been spending them with your family or you and

0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:08.320
<v Speaker 4>your partner have been spending them apart.

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:11.359
<v Speaker 3>They're the two options for the last six years. That's

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:13.239
<v Speaker 3>a long time. So I think you can just say

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 3>that to you, to you mum and.

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 4>Dad too, and also just make sure you like do

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:19.360
<v Speaker 4>it like the compliment sandwich, so you're like you, guys know,

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 4>this isn't easy, Like I want to be here this Christmas.

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:25.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to have to go and spend it with him.

0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:27.719
<v Speaker 3>But doesn't mean I love you any less.

0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 1>That was a really good compliment, sandwich. I don't love

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:33.520
<v Speaker 1>you any less, but sick present. But their roasted ham

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:36.400
<v Speaker 1>is nicer than yours. Yeah, sorry, Go where the food

0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 1>is better. That's my advice.

0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:41.400
<v Speaker 2>No the present, Go where the presence is. I'm superficial.

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:44.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm a food person over a present person. I'm a location.

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:45.560
<v Speaker 3>Go where the location is better.

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:48.560
<v Speaker 4>That's tricky is one like on the beach, and one

0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:50.560
<v Speaker 4>is you know, like i'd be thinking that through.

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 3>Just one have a pool. It's hold on Christmas in Australia.

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, Next question, Question number three, and I

0:35:57.600 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 1>have a sexy one for you.

0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:00.600
<v Speaker 3>Well, actually it's kind of un sexy.

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 1>So I've been in a relationship with this guy for

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 1>six months and everything is great. He is a wonderful,

0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:07.719
<v Speaker 1>wonderful guy, and I really think that we share a

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:11.280
<v Speaker 1>very similar sense of humor. Maybe he could be my penguin. However,

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 1>there is one glaring problem.

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:15.320
<v Speaker 2>The sex is not good. Now.

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:18.239
<v Speaker 1>He's kind of more of the jackhammer kind of guy,

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 1>where he really seems to only be interested in pleasing himself. Now,

0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:24.759
<v Speaker 1>I have done all the things that you would normally recommend,

0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 1>we have had the conversations. I have tried to softly

0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:30.000
<v Speaker 1>guide him to do the things in a way that

0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:32.360
<v Speaker 1>I like it. The problem is he does it for

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 1>about a week and then goes back to the jackhammering lovely.

0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 2>How do I navigate this?

0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:40.560
<v Speaker 1>And how important is sex in having a great relationship?

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:43.040
<v Speaker 4>I mean, how long is a piece of string? That's

0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:45.960
<v Speaker 4>the question here? Is sex important to you in your relationship?

0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:49.240
<v Speaker 4>Because some people don't care much for sex. Some people

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:51.919
<v Speaker 4>are happy to live a life where they love everything

0:36:51.960 --> 0:36:54.080
<v Speaker 4>else about their partner and the sex is mediocre.

0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 1>However, some people don't care much about sex. But I

0:36:57.080 --> 0:36:59.120
<v Speaker 1>think even the people who don't care much about sex

0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:01.960
<v Speaker 1>still care about bad sex. Like if the sex is

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:05.360
<v Speaker 1>not good, even if it's infrequent, it's not good. But

0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:09.440
<v Speaker 1>are you thinking about the Radish?

0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:12.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking about a woman from Harry Potter. Her name

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 2>is just blanked my mind when she depends.

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 3>I s good because if it's good sex, I'd check

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 3>the sex.

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:22.560
<v Speaker 2>But if it's bad sex, I'd rather have a Radish

0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:26.759
<v Speaker 2>Miririam marghlei'sah.

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 3>It, but it's okay. How bad is the sex? Is

0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:31.440
<v Speaker 3>it just okay sex and not great? Or is it

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:33.880
<v Speaker 3>like I can't stand this and it's uncomfortable and it hurts.

0:37:34.080 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 4>And how important is sex to you? There are the

0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 4>two questions you really need to ask yourself. For me,

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 4>I think sex is important. I wouldn't want to have

0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:45.239
<v Speaker 4>sex that I hated or I thought was pretty mediocre

0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:47.720
<v Speaker 4>and the rest of your life, the rest of your life,

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:49.360
<v Speaker 4>and you're also only six months in.

0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:51.560
<v Speaker 3>I just think we all need to harden up a

0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:52.799
<v Speaker 3>little bit. I truly believe this.

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:54.960
<v Speaker 4>I know you've tried the soft guiding, and you've tried

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:56.759
<v Speaker 4>to sit down and talk. I think next time he

0:37:56.840 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 4>does it, tell him to stop, just say stop. That

0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:02.160
<v Speaker 4>is so uncomfortable for me. I'm really not enjoying that.

0:38:02.239 --> 0:38:04.400
<v Speaker 4>Let's try something else, just like I think we just

0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:06.440
<v Speaker 4>need to take a little bit of ownership. He'll probably

0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:08.800
<v Speaker 4>be relieved at someone taking a little bit of control.

0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 4>But if he knew that you hated it enough to

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:14.359
<v Speaker 4>write into a podcast to be like, fucking sos, it's

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 4>so bad, he'd be mortified.

0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't I don't know if I agree, because

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 1>the thing is is you've had the conversation and you

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:23.640
<v Speaker 1>said that he would then correct it for a week.

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:26.360
<v Speaker 1>He pays attention to your needs. He then tries to

0:38:26.400 --> 0:38:28.080
<v Speaker 1>get you off, and then that goes out the window

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:30.360
<v Speaker 1>when he goes back to the thing that pleasures him.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of think he's not taking it that seriously,

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Like it's like, oh, she asked me to clean up

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:37.479
<v Speaker 1>the house, so I did it for a week of done,

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:38.320
<v Speaker 1>job done.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like he seems to be prioritizing his way of

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<v Speaker 2>pleasure over your way of pleasure, and maybe that's how

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 2>he gets off, is like he needs it to be like.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's why I don't think No, that's yes, a

0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:52.239
<v Speaker 4>lot of people do get off like that a lot

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:55.160
<v Speaker 4>of men get off like that. But that's that's why

0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:56.879
<v Speaker 4>I think maybe she hasn't been hard enough.

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<v Speaker 3>If you've had that conversation once before, I can guarantee

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:01.520
<v Speaker 3>you a soft conversation, Like.

0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:03.800
<v Speaker 4>No one goes in hard on the first convo. Everyone

0:39:03.840 --> 0:39:05.040
<v Speaker 4>tries to beat around.

0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 3>The bush or be like, let's try this, or I

0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:10.239
<v Speaker 3>think sometimes you need to cut the bullshit, especially when

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:12.360
<v Speaker 3>you say you've tried other things. I think we just

0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 3>need to be more forward and be okay with saying

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<v Speaker 3>what we want.

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<v Speaker 1>What would you do if you were in a relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with someone and the way that they got off was

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<v Speaker 1>something that you didn't enjoy.

0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:26.320
<v Speaker 2>So, for example, let's say you don't like deep throating,

0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:28.240
<v Speaker 2>and the only way that they were able to come was, sorry,

0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:30.319
<v Speaker 2>this is very graphic, but I'm just go with me,

0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 2>was by deep throating, And so there was a very

0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:36.600
<v Speaker 2>obvious mismatch in the way in which the two of

0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:37.799
<v Speaker 2>you feel pleasure.

0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:40.439
<v Speaker 3>I'd call bullshit. There's not one way to get off.

0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:41.920
<v Speaker 4>There's no one in the world that's like I can

0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:44.359
<v Speaker 4>only get off by holding your head or my Dirk like.

0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:46.080
<v Speaker 3>He's just full of it.

0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:48.120
<v Speaker 2>He's been watching too much poor ways.

0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:50.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and there's always other ways to figure out what

0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:52.440
<v Speaker 4>would work for both of you, and that's what you

0:39:52.440 --> 0:39:55.439
<v Speaker 4>guys need to do. Like the jackhammer doesn't work for you,

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:58.360
<v Speaker 4>maybe you on top doesn't work for him, so let's

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:01.719
<v Speaker 4>try something else that will get you both there. Or

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 4>maybe he's got to get your first and then you

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 4>let him drag hammer for a minute. I don't know, Like,

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:07.560
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what the answer is, but it's not

0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:10.000
<v Speaker 4>to lay there in silence, Like the answer is definitely

0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:14.399
<v Speaker 4>to have a more harsh conversation he's I always think

0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 4>of it this way. That conversation will be uncomfortable, but

0:40:17.680 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 4>what is worse is them thinking they're doing a good

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 4>job and you hating it to the point that you

0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:25.719
<v Speaker 4>are talking to other people about it. Like that is

0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:28.040
<v Speaker 4>a conversation that can be fixed in your relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>And also, I think the problem with these types of

0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 1>things is the longer you leave it, the harder it is.

0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 1>So if you've been having sex a certain way for

0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 1>a year, that's way harder to correct than if the

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 1>sex isn't great in the first month. You know, Steve, totally,

0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:43.280
<v Speaker 1>it's not impossible to correct. And I don't want anyone

0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 1>to think that, like, you can't have a better sex

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:47.480
<v Speaker 1>life no matter where you are in your relationship. But

0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I think it hits different when you're like, hey, that

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:52.520
<v Speaker 1>thing you've been doing for the last six years, I

0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:54.840
<v Speaker 1>haven't actually enjoyed it, and I'm only now being truthful

0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:56.719
<v Speaker 1>about it, And you need to hit different and you

0:40:56.760 --> 0:40:59.759
<v Speaker 1>need to need to get different exactly. So maybe it

0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:01.520
<v Speaker 1>needs to be a bit more pointed in terms of

0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:03.439
<v Speaker 1>like not just describing what it is that you want,

0:41:03.760 --> 0:41:06.239
<v Speaker 1>but a bit more pointed in like, hey, we had

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:09.200
<v Speaker 1>this conversation. It was really great for me for a week,

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:11.920
<v Speaker 1>and then it feels like you stopped caring about the

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:13.640
<v Speaker 1>things that pleasure me and get me off and just

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:16.560
<v Speaker 1>went back to what was priority for you. And I

0:41:16.560 --> 0:41:18.759
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I kind of you said that he's a

0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:21.160
<v Speaker 1>really amazing guy, and he's really funny, and you share

0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:24.520
<v Speaker 1>all these other great similarities, and like, you know, he

0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:27.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of levels up in all the other ways and

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:30.160
<v Speaker 1>things that you want in a relationship. But I also

0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:34.000
<v Speaker 1>don't think that we should be settling for someone who

0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:36.759
<v Speaker 1>only levels up in a certain amount of categories, you know.

0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:38.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think if sex is important to you,

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:41.040
<v Speaker 1>it's important to you, and it has to also be

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 1>something that is fulfilling for you. But I don't think

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:45.600
<v Speaker 1>that you have to discard the relationship because he's not

0:41:45.640 --> 0:41:47.160
<v Speaker 1>able to get you there right now. I think that

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:49.239
<v Speaker 1>there are many more conversations that need to be had.

0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:51.880
<v Speaker 1>And if you do have it more directly and he

0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:54.040
<v Speaker 1>does turn around and in another week's time just does

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:56.560
<v Speaker 1>the same thing, then I would be going, Okay, Well,

0:41:56.800 --> 0:41:59.160
<v Speaker 1>is my pleasure a priority for him? And is this

0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:00.759
<v Speaker 1>something that I'm going to be okay with for the

0:42:00.760 --> 0:42:03.360
<v Speaker 1>rest of my life potentially or the rest of this relationship.

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:05.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you'll also start to build a lot of resentment

0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:08.160
<v Speaker 4>and potentially get to the point of no return.

0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're not gonna want to have sex with him,

0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:11.000
<v Speaker 2>That's what I mean.

0:42:11.080 --> 0:42:12.400
<v Speaker 4>It's gonna get to the point where you get the

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 4>ick because your every single feeling that you have is

0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:18.040
<v Speaker 4>a direct response to that action. So every time you

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 4>have sex, you're gonna develop a feeling of like, I

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:22.800
<v Speaker 4>don't want to do this, I'm not gonna get off,

0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:24.279
<v Speaker 4>I don't like this, I'm not enjoying it.

0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:25.759
<v Speaker 3>You're not gonna want to do it anymore. Then that's

0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:26.560
<v Speaker 3>gonna build resentment.

0:42:26.600 --> 0:42:28.719
<v Speaker 4>Then you're gonna have an argument, and it's all so

0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:31.279
<v Speaker 4>avoidable at the end of the day. Also, just say

0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:32.719
<v Speaker 4>to him, I'm never gonna come like this.

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever been in a relationship where the guy

0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:39.040
<v Speaker 1>was great but the sex wasn't and it never got better?

0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:42.280
<v Speaker 2>Keisha's not, No, I haven't.

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:45.399
<v Speaker 3>I haven't, but that's because I didn't really date.

0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:47.759
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't in a lot of relationships.

0:42:48.120 --> 0:42:50.759
<v Speaker 4>I have dated people where the sex has not been compatible,

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:53.960
<v Speaker 4>but I've had those conversations early and we've figured out

0:42:53.960 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 4>what works for both of us. It's only not compatible

0:42:56.160 --> 0:43:00.480
<v Speaker 4>because we liked different exactly this exact conversations.

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:03.319
<v Speaker 3>I have had this exact conversation. What was your experience, Cash,

0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:06.600
<v Speaker 3>I've had the experience where like, it's fine, but it's

0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:10.719
<v Speaker 3>definitely not good. It reduced my desire, you know, it

0:43:10.760 --> 0:43:14.240
<v Speaker 3>reduced my kind of capacity to want to have sex

0:43:14.360 --> 0:43:16.759
<v Speaker 3>all the time. And I think that whether that had

0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:21.040
<v Speaker 3>an impact on how successful the relationship was probably, like, realistically,

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:23.719
<v Speaker 3>if you don't have that much desire for them to

0:43:23.840 --> 0:43:27.520
<v Speaker 3>be intimate, it probably does reduce the longevity of how

0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:30.400
<v Speaker 3>long you can be together. But I think it depended

0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:32.920
<v Speaker 3>on the period of life that I was in and

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:35.200
<v Speaker 3>how much kind of stability I wanted in my life.

0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:38.040
<v Speaker 3>I suppose, because I think often you can have really

0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:42.880
<v Speaker 3>lustrous sex and like that really animalistic type where you

0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:45.719
<v Speaker 3>maybe can actually be more confident with saying what you

0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:47.400
<v Speaker 3>like because you don't really care if you offend the

0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 3>other person. I think for this person's question, it's it's

0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:52.759
<v Speaker 3>hard because the six month mark is kind of where

0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:54.960
<v Speaker 3>things start to get a little bit more serious, and

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:58.120
<v Speaker 3>if you leave it too much longer, it's really awkward

0:43:58.120 --> 0:44:00.359
<v Speaker 3>to bring up. But you can't necessarily bring up at

0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:03.520
<v Speaker 3>the start at risk of them getting so offended that

0:44:03.560 --> 0:44:05.200
<v Speaker 3>they're like, well, I don't want to keep dating you,

0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:07.759
<v Speaker 3>and I think I didn't. I mean, I can be

0:44:07.800 --> 0:44:10.879
<v Speaker 3>a little bit conflicted verse and I didn't really say much.

0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 3>I would maybe guide and say what I actually know.

0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:16.799
<v Speaker 3>Maybe this is my advice, keep repeating what you like,

0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:19.880
<v Speaker 3>because if you repeat it enough and they're still not

0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:22.360
<v Speaker 3>picking up on it, then that kind of gives you

0:44:22.400 --> 0:44:24.279
<v Speaker 3>an indication as to who they're going to be in

0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:26.439
<v Speaker 3>other aspects of life as well, and whether they want

0:44:26.480 --> 0:44:29.240
<v Speaker 3>your perspective and whether they're keen to pleasure you.

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:31.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I don't they're past that. You pass the

0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:33.440
<v Speaker 4>point of just being sex and being like stop there.

0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:34.680
<v Speaker 3>I like that, but I like that bit like.

0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:37.040
<v Speaker 4>And also one thing you said their keish that I

0:44:37.040 --> 0:44:38.799
<v Speaker 4>want to make a note on is like you said,

0:44:38.800 --> 0:44:39.800
<v Speaker 4>you're conflict avoidant.

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:42.520
<v Speaker 3>This shouldn't be a conflict. This is not a conflict.

0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:45.160
<v Speaker 4>This is just a set And I think we sometimes

0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:48.600
<v Speaker 4>put it on ourselves when we build up the anxiety

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:50.200
<v Speaker 4>and that we're nervous and we feel like we're going

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:52.520
<v Speaker 4>to offend someone. And when you bring that energy, it

0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:55.120
<v Speaker 4>makes it sometimes makes this situation something that it's not.

0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:57.319
<v Speaker 3>Have you ever had someone say to you, I don't

0:44:57.400 --> 0:44:59.880
<v Speaker 3>like that, stop doing that when you're like being in

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:02.200
<v Speaker 3>to meet with them. Well, no, because most guys just do.

0:45:02.680 --> 0:45:04.680
<v Speaker 4>Most guys don't have the same issue as women, right,

0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:06.280
<v Speaker 4>Like most guys it's easier.

0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:09.120
<v Speaker 3>We all know it is easier to pleasure a man

0:45:09.680 --> 0:45:11.920
<v Speaker 3>than it is to a woman. That's a fact, is it.

0:45:11.960 --> 0:45:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Maybe it's nitpicking, but maybe it's not conflict avoidance.

0:45:15.480 --> 0:45:18.319
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's people pleasing because you know.

0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:19.120
<v Speaker 3>It makes sense.

0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like, maybe it's not this.

0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:22.720
<v Speaker 1>Feeling of like I don't I want to avoid conflict

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:24.320
<v Speaker 1>because obviously it's not going to end in a row, like,

0:45:24.360 --> 0:45:26.680
<v Speaker 1>no one's gonna get angry about it, but it does

0:45:26.719 --> 0:45:28.440
<v Speaker 1>sort of like, really, I think if you're someone who

0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:30.319
<v Speaker 1>is a people pleaser, who doesn't want to tell someone

0:45:30.320 --> 0:45:32.040
<v Speaker 1>that they're doing a bad job because you don't want

0:45:32.040 --> 0:45:33.840
<v Speaker 1>to disappoint them or hurt their feelings.

0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:37.239
<v Speaker 3>You want to keep everything pleasant. It makes it really.

0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Hard to tell someone that you're not enjoying what they're

0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:42.120
<v Speaker 1>doing that is supposed to be pleasurable to you. The

0:45:42.160 --> 0:45:44.480
<v Speaker 1>only reason why I think that this situation is different

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:47.279
<v Speaker 1>is because you have said it, and he did it,

0:45:47.560 --> 0:45:50.000
<v Speaker 1>and now he's choosing not to do it again. So

0:45:50.320 --> 0:45:53.160
<v Speaker 1>he knows he's just either a little bit lazy in

0:45:53.160 --> 0:45:56.480
<v Speaker 1>the bedroom or he prioritizes himself. And so I think,

0:45:56.560 --> 0:45:58.960
<v Speaker 1>be careful with how much you have to remind someone

0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:01.239
<v Speaker 1>of the things that you like. You know, we have

0:46:01.280 --> 0:46:03.319
<v Speaker 1>this conversation about everything else in our lives, right Like,

0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:05.640
<v Speaker 1>if you've got to constantly tell your partner that they've

0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:07.960
<v Speaker 1>got to clean up after themselves, that's gonna get really

0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:10.640
<v Speaker 1>annoying real quick. If you're constantly having to tell your

0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:13.719
<v Speaker 1>partner that they have to be softer or go down

0:46:13.760 --> 0:46:15.840
<v Speaker 1>on you for a bit, or like be gentle or

0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:18.040
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is in the bedroom that's gonna get really

0:46:18.120 --> 0:46:19.360
<v Speaker 1>fucking annoying after a while.

0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 4>What I'd recommend every single person does right now if

0:46:21.680 --> 0:46:23.560
<v Speaker 4>you're listening to this is go and have this exact

0:46:23.600 --> 0:46:26.520
<v Speaker 4>conversation with your partner tonight. Literally say, hey, I was

0:46:26.560 --> 0:46:30.719
<v Speaker 4>listening to Life Uncut today. If I was uncomfortable with

0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:33.040
<v Speaker 4>something you did in bed, would you or someone your partner,

0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:34.319
<v Speaker 4>would you want me to tell you?

0:46:34.440 --> 0:46:36.600
<v Speaker 3>Or would you like, how would you want that conversation

0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:36.880
<v Speaker 3>to go?

0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:39.640
<v Speaker 4>Because I have these conversations with Ben all the time

0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 4>about these ask guncuts, like I ask his opinion, I'm

0:46:42.120 --> 0:46:45.000
<v Speaker 4>going to one hundred percent tonight, ask him this question

0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:47.200
<v Speaker 4>and say, if I was unhappy with someone with you

0:46:47.239 --> 0:46:49.000
<v Speaker 4>in bed, would you want me to do it differently?

0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:51.120
<v Speaker 2>I have one more question to add to that.

0:46:51.680 --> 0:46:54.400
<v Speaker 1>And because sometimes it's hard to bring up sex questions

0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:57.040
<v Speaker 1>with your partner because you're like, when is the right time.

0:46:57.600 --> 0:46:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Here is your litmus to go forth and ask whatever

0:46:59.719 --> 0:47:02.759
<v Speaker 1>it is you want. Today I was listening to Life

0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Uncut and they said to go and ask your partner,

0:47:06.800 --> 0:47:08.920
<v Speaker 1>what is the one thing that you would like to

0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:12.080
<v Speaker 1>do in the bedroom that you're not doing. So like

0:47:12.239 --> 0:47:14.680
<v Speaker 1>open that conversation up. Ask your partners, like, what is

0:47:14.680 --> 0:47:16.200
<v Speaker 1>the one thing that you would like me to do

0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:17.239
<v Speaker 1>that I'm not doing or that you.

0:47:17.239 --> 0:47:19.399
<v Speaker 3>Would like to try that we haven't tried yet.

0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:21.360
<v Speaker 1>And if you put it on us, it makes it

0:47:21.400 --> 0:47:23.400
<v Speaker 1>way easier for you to say it to them because

0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:25.640
<v Speaker 1>it's like, Hey, I'm just doing my Life on Cut homework.

0:47:25.960 --> 0:47:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not just coming to you with like my random

0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:30.080
<v Speaker 1>request about wanting to use a vibrator on this or that.

0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Like it will give you the opportunity to open it

0:47:32.600 --> 0:47:34.959
<v Speaker 1>up without it feeling like it's on you, not about

0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:36.680
<v Speaker 1>just how you want to be pleasured, but like but

0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:38.600
<v Speaker 1>like bringing something new into the bedroom.

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:41.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you guys thought you came to Life Uncut for

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<v Speaker 3>just an easy listening experience, but now you have homework

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<v Speaker 3>to do and you must report back.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think a lot of you will find and

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<v Speaker 4>we'll go put some polls on Life on Cut. I

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<v Speaker 4>think a lot of you will find your partner's answer

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<v Speaker 4>is going to be like, yes, please tell me if

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing something you don't like, of course I want

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<v Speaker 4>to know and I think that that'll take away that

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<v Speaker 4>stigma attached all the nervousness that you have, and then

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<v Speaker 4>you can.

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<v Speaker 3>Be like, thank fuck because I hate when you do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that is it from us. Everybody some down and

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<v Speaker 1>actually I was gonna say down dirty questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually none of them were down and dirty, but you

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<v Speaker 2>know we did our best.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have a question for usk from ask on Cut,

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<v Speaker 1>you can slide into the DMS. You can also send

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<v Speaker 1>us an email with your question and we will do

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<v Speaker 1>our absolute best to answer the next week. Send us

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<v Speaker 1>spicy ones, send us your big life dilemmas.

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<v Speaker 3>We want to hear it all.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't forget tea mum tea, doat tey dot tea friends

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