1 00:00:10,204 --> 00:00:13,484 Speaker 1: My Heart podcasts. Here, more gold one on one point 2 00:00:13,524 --> 00:00:15,204 Speaker 1: seven podcasts. 3 00:00:14,604 --> 00:00:22,364 Speaker 2: Playlists and listen live on the Free iHeart app. Here's 4 00:00:23,044 --> 00:00:35,524 Speaker 2: and Man's cutting is cutting room on the cutting room floor. 5 00:00:35,604 --> 00:00:39,123 Speaker 2: Something that has read its head many, many, many times. 6 00:00:38,763 --> 00:00:41,004 Speaker 1: On our show talking about shopping carts. 7 00:00:40,763 --> 00:00:42,844 Speaker 2: Shopping cart or shopping trolley? What are you American? 8 00:00:42,844 --> 00:00:44,204 Speaker 1: And I say trolley? 9 00:00:44,324 --> 00:00:45,163 Speaker 2: You say trolley? 10 00:00:45,404 --> 00:00:46,604 Speaker 1: No, it says I'm off my cart. 11 00:00:46,924 --> 00:00:49,244 Speaker 2: Yeah, you that's an American. 12 00:00:49,564 --> 00:00:52,244 Speaker 1: But there's a meme that's going around people saying I 13 00:00:52,284 --> 00:00:54,324 Speaker 1: can't sleep, I need a good night's sleep. And then 14 00:00:54,364 --> 00:00:56,764 Speaker 1: they are at three am watching a German show where 15 00:00:56,764 --> 00:01:00,204 Speaker 1: people have to push a shopping trolley into a into 16 00:01:00,204 --> 00:01:01,284 Speaker 1: a certain area. 17 00:01:01,444 --> 00:01:04,404 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a show, it's a show. Trolley. 18 00:01:04,644 --> 00:01:06,723 Speaker 1: Yeah, you tried to host that front the. 19 00:01:06,684 --> 00:01:09,283 Speaker 2: German version of Grand Dana is going to be hosting 20 00:01:09,324 --> 00:01:12,084 Speaker 2: it now. But the shopping trolley, and you and I 21 00:01:12,124 --> 00:01:15,164 Speaker 2: have discussed this many times. I am one who always 22 00:01:15,244 --> 00:01:19,203 Speaker 2: returns the trolley to its corraling station. And what do 23 00:01:19,284 --> 00:01:20,884 Speaker 2: you do? Let's just do the same. 24 00:01:20,924 --> 00:01:23,804 Speaker 1: I would never in a million years abandon a trolley. 25 00:01:24,084 --> 00:01:25,284 Speaker 1: I'd never abandoned it. 26 00:01:25,324 --> 00:01:30,444 Speaker 2: Sometimes you might see an ad hoc stack of trolleys. Well, 27 00:01:30,884 --> 00:01:31,444 Speaker 2: next to the. 28 00:01:31,444 --> 00:01:34,684 Speaker 1: Car, there's levels of stacking a trolley. Let me talk 29 00:01:34,724 --> 00:01:37,203 Speaker 1: you through this theory about the kind of person you 30 00:01:37,244 --> 00:01:39,724 Speaker 1: are depending on what you do with the trolley. Okay, 31 00:01:40,924 --> 00:01:42,964 Speaker 1: here they call it a shopping cart, so let's just 32 00:01:43,004 --> 00:01:43,924 Speaker 1: call it a shopping cart. 33 00:01:44,004 --> 00:01:45,884 Speaker 2: We all agree it's Australia. 34 00:01:45,924 --> 00:01:48,084 Speaker 1: I'm reading what they've said here, take out jage the 35 00:01:48,084 --> 00:01:52,684 Speaker 1: words okay, the shopping trolley. In case Brendan can't understand 36 00:01:52,684 --> 00:01:53,484 Speaker 1: the word cars. 37 00:01:53,564 --> 00:01:55,284 Speaker 2: I'm We're in Australia, not American. 38 00:01:55,804 --> 00:01:58,924 Speaker 1: The shopping trolley is the ultimate litmus test for whether 39 00:01:58,964 --> 00:02:03,364 Speaker 1: a person is capable of self governing. To ressurant reshurant 40 00:02:03,404 --> 00:02:05,724 Speaker 1: to return the shopping trolley. See what you've done, You've 41 00:02:05,724 --> 00:02:10,243 Speaker 1: stopped me Speaking English is an easy, convenient one which 42 00:02:10,244 --> 00:02:13,883 Speaker 1: we all recognize as the correct, appropriate thing to do. Yep, 43 00:02:14,124 --> 00:02:18,364 Speaker 1: to return the shopping trolley is objectively right, says here. 44 00:02:18,404 --> 00:02:22,123 Speaker 1: There are no situations other than dire emergencies in which 45 00:02:22,124 --> 00:02:26,323 Speaker 1: a person is not able to return their trolley. Agreed simultaneously, 46 00:02:26,564 --> 00:02:30,324 Speaker 1: it's not illegal to abandon your shopping trolley. Therefore, the 47 00:02:30,363 --> 00:02:34,484 Speaker 1: shopping trolley presents itself as the apex example of whether 48 00:02:34,524 --> 00:02:37,084 Speaker 1: a person will do what's right without being forced to 49 00:02:37,084 --> 00:02:39,803 Speaker 1: do it. No one will punish you for not returning 50 00:02:39,803 --> 00:02:42,924 Speaker 1: the shopping trolley. No one will find you or kill 51 00:02:42,964 --> 00:02:46,244 Speaker 1: you for not returning the shopping trolley. You gain nothing 52 00:02:46,324 --> 00:02:49,043 Speaker 1: by returning the trolley. Yes, we get it. You must 53 00:02:49,084 --> 00:02:51,484 Speaker 1: return the shopping trolley out of the goodness of your 54 00:02:51,483 --> 00:02:54,524 Speaker 1: own heart. You must return the trolley because it's the 55 00:02:54,603 --> 00:02:57,524 Speaker 1: right thing to do, because it's correct. A person who 56 00:02:57,564 --> 00:03:00,163 Speaker 1: is unable to do this is no better than an animal, 57 00:03:01,043 --> 00:03:04,044 Speaker 1: an absolute savage. You can only be made to do 58 00:03:04,124 --> 00:03:06,684 Speaker 1: what's right by threatening them with the law and the 59 00:03:06,724 --> 00:03:09,844 Speaker 1: force that stands behind it. The shopping trolley is what 60 00:03:09,964 --> 00:03:13,803 Speaker 1: determines whether a person is a good or bad member 61 00:03:13,844 --> 00:03:14,643 Speaker 1: of society. 62 00:03:15,923 --> 00:03:19,084 Speaker 2: I'll go one step further. This is breaking up into categories. 63 00:03:19,764 --> 00:03:23,004 Speaker 2: Lawful good. That's when you turn the trolley to the 64 00:03:23,084 --> 00:03:25,524 Speaker 2: store inside good. That's lawful good. 65 00:03:25,603 --> 00:03:28,044 Speaker 1: It's lawful plus you're being what's good. So that's when 66 00:03:28,084 --> 00:03:29,884 Speaker 1: you take it back to the corral. 67 00:03:29,644 --> 00:03:33,843 Speaker 2: Inside the inside the shopping setup. Neutral good. This is 68 00:03:33,884 --> 00:03:36,484 Speaker 2: when you return it to the corraling station, not in 69 00:03:36,524 --> 00:03:38,804 Speaker 2: the shopping center, but it's in the car park. 70 00:03:38,844 --> 00:03:41,124 Speaker 1: That is designated for returns good. 71 00:03:40,964 --> 00:03:43,844 Speaker 2: On you, So the lawful good people will go past 72 00:03:43,924 --> 00:03:47,204 Speaker 2: the corral and take it directly into the shopping center, 73 00:03:47,404 --> 00:03:49,884 Speaker 2: so the shopping set of cart guy doesn't have to 74 00:03:49,884 --> 00:03:51,964 Speaker 2: pick them up at all, doing amount of a job. 75 00:03:52,124 --> 00:03:56,724 Speaker 2: Not necessarily because there's always trolleys. Chaotic good is when 76 00:03:56,724 --> 00:03:58,363 Speaker 2: you go up to the corral and you just push 77 00:03:58,444 --> 00:04:00,804 Speaker 2: it and let it go in there. Hence your TV show. 78 00:04:01,084 --> 00:04:03,484 Speaker 1: Do we call it a corral while we're talking about 79 00:04:03,604 --> 00:04:04,364 Speaker 1: trolley rather than. 80 00:04:04,363 --> 00:04:09,444 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got a craw. Then there's lawful neutral when 81 00:04:09,444 --> 00:04:12,363 Speaker 2: you return it to another store. Who would do that? Well, 82 00:04:12,404 --> 00:04:15,124 Speaker 2: you're next to Audi and you're next to b WS 83 00:04:15,644 --> 00:04:20,044 Speaker 2: b WS trolley. You put it into Audi vice versa. Okay, 84 00:04:20,164 --> 00:04:22,604 Speaker 2: chaotic neutral, that's when it's returned to nature. You just 85 00:04:22,604 --> 00:04:24,724 Speaker 2: put on the medium strip inside the shopping ceter. 86 00:04:24,724 --> 00:04:27,524 Speaker 1: Where it goes back to grow in its natural environment. 87 00:04:27,684 --> 00:04:30,444 Speaker 2: Not necessarily, you just put it. You know, you're abandoning 88 00:04:30,524 --> 00:04:35,484 Speaker 2: the shopping trolley. Lawful evil. What's that unreturned but neatly stacked? 89 00:04:35,484 --> 00:04:37,564 Speaker 2: So you see one shopping trolley? Yeah okay, And then 90 00:04:37,604 --> 00:04:39,044 Speaker 2: you make an ad hoc lisp. 91 00:04:39,284 --> 00:04:41,324 Speaker 1: Even though it's just maybe in front of someone's house. 92 00:04:41,924 --> 00:04:44,084 Speaker 2: Natural or neutral evil is when you leave it in 93 00:04:44,124 --> 00:04:44,844 Speaker 2: a parking space. 94 00:04:44,924 --> 00:04:47,644 Speaker 1: Oh, that's that's unacceptable. That's not neutral evil. 95 00:04:47,724 --> 00:04:50,444 Speaker 2: Chaotic evil is when you return it to a covert, 96 00:04:50,804 --> 00:04:54,204 Speaker 2: meaning you push it off the edge the verge and 97 00:04:54,244 --> 00:04:57,804 Speaker 2: it plungs into the water. You are truly, that's just chaos. 98 00:04:58,724 --> 00:05:02,644 Speaker 2: That's chaos for me. I always return the trolley because 99 00:05:02,684 --> 00:05:04,683 Speaker 2: the Lord smiles upon you. 100 00:05:04,684 --> 00:05:06,124 Speaker 1: You're not going to tell this story. 101 00:05:06,284 --> 00:05:09,324 Speaker 2: One day I return my trolley. There in the trolley 102 00:05:09,444 --> 00:05:12,004 Speaker 2: preceding my trolley was a barbee. 103 00:05:11,684 --> 00:05:14,044 Speaker 1: To ask the question, were you inside the store or 104 00:05:14,084 --> 00:05:16,924 Speaker 1: just I was? 105 00:05:17,324 --> 00:05:19,924 Speaker 2: I was neutral good, So neutral good for me. 106 00:05:20,044 --> 00:05:24,244 Speaker 1: He's returning to the corral outside the store but designated. 107 00:05:23,724 --> 00:05:26,363 Speaker 2: Area exactly if I was lawful good and taking it 108 00:05:26,404 --> 00:05:29,044 Speaker 2: into the shop, et cetera. Some under an employee, if 109 00:05:29,124 --> 00:05:31,764 Speaker 2: Coals or Woolworths would have noticed the chicken within the 110 00:05:31,804 --> 00:05:33,524 Speaker 2: trolley and they would have said. 111 00:05:33,364 --> 00:05:34,844 Speaker 1: This is the trolley that was in front of you. 112 00:05:35,244 --> 00:05:37,924 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have missed it. If that person neutral 113 00:05:37,924 --> 00:05:42,444 Speaker 2: good had returned the trolley, we've said chicken, and unfortunately 114 00:05:42,444 --> 00:05:44,644 Speaker 2: for them they forgot their chicken. That happens. 115 00:05:44,804 --> 00:05:47,204 Speaker 1: But you've said you're the Lord rewarded you. 116 00:05:47,284 --> 00:05:48,244 Speaker 2: Well, I picked up the chicken. 117 00:05:48,324 --> 00:05:50,604 Speaker 1: What about the person who bought the chicken and took 118 00:05:50,644 --> 00:05:52,364 Speaker 1: it to the corral? Where was there all? 119 00:05:52,364 --> 00:05:55,044 Speaker 2: Well, they would have got home, unpacked their groceries and said, 120 00:05:55,044 --> 00:05:56,563 Speaker 2: oh bugger, I've left the chicks. 121 00:05:57,084 --> 00:05:57,924 Speaker 1: We're not eating tonight. 122 00:06:01,084 --> 00:06:04,364 Speaker 2: There's nothing else that they can do. They can't get 123 00:06:04,364 --> 00:06:04,884 Speaker 2: in the carriage. 124 00:06:05,444 --> 00:06:07,564 Speaker 1: You were kissed by the universe and they weren't. 125 00:06:07,324 --> 00:06:10,324 Speaker 2: Because I returned the trolley. And that's so had they Yeah, 126 00:06:10,364 --> 00:06:12,444 Speaker 2: but they returned trolley. So what will happen is they 127 00:06:12,484 --> 00:06:14,164 Speaker 2: will get something good coming their way. 128 00:06:15,124 --> 00:06:16,244 Speaker 1: Is that how you sleep at night? 129 00:06:16,324 --> 00:06:18,444 Speaker 2: That's how I sleep, And I slept very very well 130 00:06:18,724 --> 00:06:20,284 Speaker 2: because I'm that sort of person with. 131 00:06:20,244 --> 00:06:23,124 Speaker 1: A full tummy. It's someone else's chicken. 132 00:06:23,164 --> 00:06:27,484 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. It's a person who a like minded person, 133 00:06:27,804 --> 00:06:28,804 Speaker 2: and that person would be. 134 00:06:28,724 --> 00:06:32,444 Speaker 1: Happy thinking, well, someone good did it. Wasn't mister chaotic 135 00:06:32,484 --> 00:06:35,004 Speaker 1: evil who got it? Yeah, and that could be a 136 00:06:35,044 --> 00:06:38,804 Speaker 1: new marvel Baddy chaotic evil who just goes and pushes trolley. 137 00:06:38,804 --> 00:06:40,764 Speaker 2: One time, many years ago, I bought a bunch of 138 00:06:41,004 --> 00:06:44,123 Speaker 2: Indian food and as I was unpacking the Indian Food 139 00:06:44,404 --> 00:06:47,044 Speaker 2: Just outside the Indian Food shop, I left one of 140 00:06:47,084 --> 00:06:50,164 Speaker 2: the containers a buttered chicken, just sitting there, and I 141 00:06:50,204 --> 00:06:52,564 Speaker 2: didn't put it back into the bag. Ironically, I was 142 00:06:52,604 --> 00:06:54,404 Speaker 2: checking to put it so if they put everything in there, 143 00:06:54,924 --> 00:06:56,964 Speaker 2: I took the butter of chickens in there. I left 144 00:06:57,004 --> 00:07:00,324 Speaker 2: that there. Got to home that sands the buttered chicken, 145 00:07:00,804 --> 00:07:02,644 Speaker 2: so I left it there. So I'd like to think 146 00:07:02,684 --> 00:07:04,324 Speaker 2: that someone coming out of that Indian. 147 00:07:04,044 --> 00:07:07,004 Speaker 3: Store, Oh my god, who would take home a buttered 148 00:07:07,124 --> 00:07:11,964 Speaker 3: chicken a roast rote you have said, a rotisserie chicken. 149 00:07:12,244 --> 00:07:14,844 Speaker 3: At least this is in your defense. I can't believe 150 00:07:14,884 --> 00:07:15,524 Speaker 3: I'm defending. 151 00:07:15,564 --> 00:07:17,684 Speaker 1: You said there was a sticker that said when it 152 00:07:17,724 --> 00:07:20,884 Speaker 1: was cooked thime blah blah blah. A butter chicken could 153 00:07:20,964 --> 00:07:23,404 Speaker 1: have anything in it. Yeah, but still, how long has 154 00:07:23,404 --> 00:07:23,684 Speaker 1: it been? 155 00:07:23,764 --> 00:07:26,404 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I just hope that someone, a neutral, 156 00:07:26,404 --> 00:07:29,324 Speaker 2: good person like me got the benefits of that chicken. 157 00:07:29,764 --> 00:07:31,644 Speaker 1: Wow, they're probably still feeling them in hospital. 158 00:07:32,764 --> 00:07:37,804 Speaker 3: Okay, kids, I said today, come back to Mark bore 159 00:07:38,084 --> 00:07:39,604 Speaker 3: Charty and a man just