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Speaker 2: Of Sydney they call it. They call that now I do.

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Speaker 1: But I've noticed something about all the local dads. Good carves,

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Speaker 1: fucking unbelievable cars.

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Speaker 2: Really.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday, April and I are driving along and I was like,

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Speaker 3: The cars on this guy.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to two doting dads. I'm Maddie Jay and

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Speaker 4: I'm Ash and this is it one. Sorry, she's got

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Speaker 4: a little cardboard box.

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Speaker 2: Looks like it could be band aids. It's not. He's

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Speaker 2: just putting something over his nose and I'm ash.

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Speaker 4: You are a heavy mouth breathed that hang on? Oh,

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Speaker 4: this is a podcast or what parenting? It's good and

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Speaker 4: relatable and if you come for advice, not today your nose.

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Speaker 2: What is that?

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Speaker 1: It's a nasal strip. It's called breathe right, I'm addicted.

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Speaker 4: Whoever came up with that name? Very intelligent? No, right,

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Speaker 4: do you mind if I try one? Have you never

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Speaker 4: had a natal strip? I've never had one. And I'm

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Speaker 4: getting fed these ads and I'm so close to getting

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Speaker 4: sucked in where you have the magnets, the magnets, and

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Speaker 4: then you put the strip attaches to the magnets and it.

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Speaker 2: Just like flours. This is one step before that.

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Speaker 4: This is the gateway. He's getting a nose job. And

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Speaker 4: what do I do?

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Speaker 2: Just? Yeah, just make sure you grab some nostril? Bang?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I got good. What do you think?

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Speaker 4: I don't notice the difference? Have you got a deviated symptom?

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Speaker 2: She's deviated? Anyway, let's get back on track. Are we

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Speaker 2: talking about Oh bit, we're talking about beer. May I

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Speaker 2: crack it, big boy? What are you drinking there?

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Speaker 4: Mate, I'm drinking It's a stone of wood, No surprise

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Speaker 1: That's my first beer of the week. Actually, excuse me,

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Speaker 2: What is this?

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Speaker 4: Because post balia, you're getting your life back on track.

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Speaker 4: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Just balance? I'm just looking for some balance. You're out

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Speaker 2: There is one thing you do not do well. It's balance. No,

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Speaker 2: I'm trying.

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Speaker 4: You were lying one side at the extreme and now

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Speaker 2: How does this taste?

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Speaker 1: This is one of my favorite ones. I've got a

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Speaker 1: fridge full of them at home. It used to be

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Speaker 1: And where can they get it?

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Speaker 2: Matt?

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Speaker 4: You tell us it is available from any good bottle

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Speaker 4: shop now pouring on tapping, any good bar, a restaurant,

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Speaker 4: and if you're struggling to find any good restaurant or bar.

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Speaker 2: You can of course buy it online. It's starting with

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Speaker 2: dot com dot are you all? One word? That's very good?

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Speaker 1: And also it's getting hot, so bevery hot heat beer.

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Speaker 2: Summer sandwiches. I'm calling it. Do you know what tasted

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Speaker 2: delicious on the weekend? Ash? It was a beer?

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Speaker 4: Do you know what I was doing pre beer? That

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Speaker 4: made it taste even better? Actually, I haven't had a

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Speaker 4: post beer sex in a long time. Beer. I'll take

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Speaker 2: I was chopping down trees we are you on the weekend?

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Speaker 2: I did see something there?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just you know I've I've been making my transition

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Speaker 4: into like full blown toxic masculine laborer laborer for a

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Speaker 2: So your sister's farm.

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Speaker 4: Yes, my sister's farm. Yes, sorry, their farm, their farm.

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Speaker 4: And I had a beer after we've been chopping down

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Speaker 2: There oh in the middle, So fucking gentle with my hand.

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Speaker 2: It's been infected. Is it infected? It was different type

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Speaker 1: So is that where you would say freshwater meets salt

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Speaker 2: No, it is. It is alsot water, the evolution of water.

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Speaker 4: It was the manliest weekend I think I've ever had

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Speaker 2: You just surprise me every weekend. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's what am I right now? Full time laborer.

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Speaker 2: Creak, creak, a queak and river.

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Speaker 4: First, you wouldn't last more than two seconds out there

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Speaker 2: And film content. Salt of the earth, aren't they.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, none of them were that intrigued about my job.

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Speaker 2: I was just my wrists was sore, like my body was.

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Speaker 1: I was all right, fellas, all right, fellas first time.

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Speaker 4: It's a miracle that I made out a lot. There

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Speaker 2: Sounds like broke Back Farm if you ask me, buddy.

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Speaker 4: It's very primal, very primal, seeing two grown men decide

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Speaker 4: Very masculine weekend, very masculine weekend up there on the house.

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Speaker 2: Well at all. Nothing to showers, showers only. I think

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Speaker 1: No, April's a big bath kind of girl. She would be,

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Speaker 4: I hose them down. Don't put a bathroom in there

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Speaker 2: I've got a hose and still good. Speaking of April,

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Speaker 2: it is April's birthday. Today's Happy birthday to April. Would

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Speaker 4: Would she want that?

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Speaker 2: Probably not? Okay, Well, I won't do it. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: We're on, April. It's me, Matt.

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Speaker 4: We are recording right now, So don't say anything incriminating.

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to say.

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Speaker 4: I don't know have your number saved in my phone,

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, appreciate it. What are you now? Twenty six,

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Speaker 4: What do you got planned for tonight? Told you no? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Will will you tell me? No? It's nothing huge. We're

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Speaker 1: Dinner Chinese restaurant, a succulent Chinese meal.

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Speaker 4: Well, I have to say, I don't know how you

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Speaker 4: incredible job as both wife and mum. Is that your.

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Speaker 2: Birthday present to me? Just the words? Is that not

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe one of your homes. Your holiday out must

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Speaker 2: be nice. That's what we got time for April. Have

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Speaker 2: a great birthday. Bye. You don't ask, you don't get

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Speaker 2: exactly right. You wear you're wearing the shirt.

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Speaker 1: I'm wearing a shirt that says my wife on it

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Speaker 2: That's a nice shirt. It is a nice shirt.

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Speaker 4: I feel like you guys are just on fire right now.

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Speaker 4: The two of you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you very much.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, little cheeky present you picked up as well.

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Speaker 2: I did. She'll get that later. You've got a few

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Speaker 2: things as well, I did. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Tony May gave me a couple of rings. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Laura and Matthew. Thank you to the Johnson's and the Burns.

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Speaker 1: Lovely my weekend. You had the masculine weekend. I had

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Speaker 1: which was a meltdown. I'm calling it the ultra tantrum

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Speaker 2: Well said to get down there.

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Speaker 1: And poor Macy she was she can't walk that well,

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Speaker 4: She's a bit, she's a bit like topsy turvy.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it happened.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, you eat your dinner, you'll.

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Speaker 1: That's what happens when you have too much screen time.

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Speaker 1: Like he'll come back from like a day at KINDI

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Speaker 2: I'm talking fucking.

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Speaker 1: In thought, playing out in out up, back up, back up.

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Speaker 1: And then he gets home and he's like I want

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Speaker 2: I'm like, the fucking wrong with you?

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Speaker 2: But no, he's not, and he wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: And then I'm like go to bed and he's like no,

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Speaker 4: No, you only when you like sid still when you're

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Speaker 4: when you're inadactivity, you're you're like, you're fucking.

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Speaker 4: You were like your son, damn it, I know. So

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Speaker 4: what's your plan on screen time? Are going to completely

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Speaker 4: remove it? You're gonna go weekends, weekends only?

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Speaker 2: He said, look and it's Star Wars Death start and

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Speaker 4: I mean again, your word's not mine. Man's a good

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's exactly where we were at.

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Speaker 4: And not to be I'm not I'm not judging it

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Speaker 1: M yeah, like they will wait, they wake up early

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Speaker 1: I think like, if you have something really important to

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Speaker 2: Oh that sucks.

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Speaker 4: Like you get like a little sense of we did

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Speaker 4: other table.

443
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 1: I will say, though, the p Andos staff, the waiters,

444
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 1: because they're all from different countries, very good, very good.

445
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 2: They were like they.

446
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 1: Would remember the name and then like I think, like

447
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 1: for breakfast, we had this guy Michael. I remember his

448
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,920
Speaker 1: name was shout its Michael, probably not listening, definitely not sure.

449
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 1: He would be like does that have a race, and

450
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,440
Speaker 1: he would just go and take them if it was

451
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,359
Speaker 1: quiet enough to like just people. I was sitting there

452
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 1: eating breakfast. I'm like with the kids, and then you

453
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 1: just see him pass with Michael. I did tip him.

454
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 4: For the rs L.

455
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,200
Speaker 2: There's no Michael. There's no Michael. There's Michael. We need

456
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 2: Michael more Michaels.

457
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 4: Michael's rs L. We've got dinner tonight. The RSL just

458
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 4: to go on. My sister icebergs no not RSL, RSLF,

459
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 4: very nice rs L. And I'm like it's going to

460
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,199
Speaker 4: be Laura's not coming and I'm like, fuck, it's going

461
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 4: to be hell me and the kids.

462
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 2: And she doesn't do screen to and yeah, but you

463
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,360
Speaker 2: know she's like she needs a screen She's yeah, she

464
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 2: needs she'd loves screen time.

465
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 1: We'd give all day, every day for Ellie Geeva occupied anyway,

466
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 1: So that was the meltdown.

467
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 2: We've recovered somewhat. Macy hasn't.

468
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,919
Speaker 1: She's still down there, Matt. Last week you mentioned you

469
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 1: had a info in it for big school. Not for you,

470
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 1: You're way past big school. It's for her name is Marley, right,

471
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 1: her name.

472
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 4: Is Marley, and she is transitioning to kindy Okay, so

473
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 4: at big school kindy.

474
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 2: Big smook indy bigs.

475
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 4: One thing that's weird about school in New South Wales

476
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 4: is that primary school finishes in year six.

477
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 2: Right, yep, that's fucking weird. Even numbers. What do you mean?

478
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,439
Speaker 2: Even number six is an even number? Yeah, made up

479
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 2: of two odd numbers.

480
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 4: Very good school, Queen's Land. We finished school in year

481
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 4: seven primary school. High school starts in year eight.

482
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:00,679
Speaker 2: That's silly.

483
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 4: Even number two fours make there you go?

484
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 2: Well said truth? Truth?

485
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 4: So yeah, so we enrolled. We enrolled, obviously we had

486
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 4: the panic, the panic of the late enrollment got in. There,

487
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 4: had the info nite felt good, great, great info nite

488
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 4: by the way, and then we had our first orientation,

489
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 4: which was this morning, Oh, I'm coming straight from the orientation.

490
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 2: How'd you go, Marley go?

491
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 4: Actually she did, okay, okay, good, she did Okay, your

492
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 4: orientation you were with the kids.

493
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 2: It was like one of that was like the initial one.

494
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 4: Have you done an orientation where you just dropped?

495
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 2: April has done the drop because I've been busy.

496
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 4: Because I thought initially, I thought it was going to

497
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 4: be I'm with Marley the whole time, and I thought

498
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 4: we would go to school in the morning, all the

499
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 4: parents would be holding hands with their kids from start

500
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 4: to finish.

501
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 2: We wouldn't do that when they actually go to school.

502
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 2: So they got it. You got to prepare them. Would

503
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 2: be weird if you went to school every day with

504
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 2: there you're out the fan Madison.

505
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 4: So I looked at this sheet and I was like, oh,

506
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 4: it's just it's a drop and go orientation. So I

507
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 4: actually it worked out great because Marley was really pumped,

508
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 4: really excited for the days leading up to it because

509
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 4: a lot of her daycare friends are also they got

510
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 4: the orientation, so everyone's kind of like in this process

511
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 4: of preparing for big school. Marley loves it, and I

512
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 4: was like, you don't eat your dinner, you're not going

513
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 4: to school. If you didn't go to bed right now,

514
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 4: you are not going to school. So I've been using

515
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 4: that as my main correct.

516
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 2: We were like, thank god, I don't want to dinner

517
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 2: and I don't want to go to school. Fuck imagine

518
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 2: if that was the case.

519
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 4: And then I was driving Maley in. We went in

520
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 4: there through the front gates, and I at a moment

521
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 4: where I was thinking, oh, my gosh, I remember taking

522
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 4: Marley to her first day of daycare and you know how.

523
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 1: Little she was back then, And I was now, yeah, yeah,

524
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: back now.

525
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 2: And now I'm you know, at this.

526
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 4: For the last few years, it's been pretty consistent, the

527
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 4: routine of your kids in daycare, and it's you're now

528
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 4: entering a different phase. And it's a real obviously sounds

529
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 4: really obvious, but a real moment of oh, she's not

530
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 4: a little kid anymore. She's turning into a little girl. Yeah,

531
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 4: and I hate it.

532
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 2: It's a double edged sword.

533
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 4: I love that she's turning into a little girl, and

534
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 4: I love how she's becoming. But at the same time,

535
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, she's not my she's not.

536
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 2: Your baby anymoy anymore.

537
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like Oscar is the same, he's I remember

538
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: walking him to kindy. We used to live in d

539
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 1: wives of suburban Sydney and we would walk.

540
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,479
Speaker 2: To the end of the road where the KINDI was.

541
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 2: I remember his little backpack.

542
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: Yeah I had to carry because he was just but

543
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 1: like yeah, And then now he's like, we've got a

544
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 1: drop off orientation tomorrow, which is I haven't been to

545
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: the last couple because I've been I've been an absent father.

546
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: But this one I'm going to go, so it'll be interesting.

547
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: I'll be able to let you know how that goes

548
00:25:59,080 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 1: next week.

549
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 4: Well, I thought it was going to be a little

550
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 4: bit emotional, you know, when I drop off a daycare.

551
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 4: Sometimes that moment of when I I'm walking out the

552
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 4: door and I'm waving goodbye. Very often she's like, Daddy,

553
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 4: don't go stay there. Maybe like once or twice a week.

554
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 2: You wouldn't get it if you just pushed out a

555
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 2: car when you drove past, You're right right right.

556
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 4: The bat out of the window.

557
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,719
Speaker 2: And we went in. I met her teacher.

558
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 4: They have a buddy, so one of the older kids

559
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 4: they come down. You get to sign a buddy and

560
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 4: that's who you're going to have for when you actually

561
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 4: start school. And the buddy was lovely, great, great young lady.

562
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 4: And you know, I'm standing there with the buddy with

563
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 4: Marley the teacher, and I was like, Okay, Marley, you

564
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 4: have a really great day. And to a buddy, I

565
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 4: was like, you have really fun fum looking after Marley.

566
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 4: And then I hung around for like a split second longer,

567
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 4: and I was just taking it in and I was

568
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 4: expecting Maley to maybe be a bit upset, you know,

569
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 4: hold my hand and say, daddy, can you stay?

570
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 2: And she looked at me and she's like, do you

571
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 2: want to get out of you now? You didn't get

572
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 2: the moment. You were like thinking it was going to

573
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 2: be you can leave. Oh can you fuck off? Did

574
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: that break your heart? Oh my gosh? Look yeah, I

575
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:15,360
Speaker 2: was like, she doesn't want me anymore?

576
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: No, well, yeah, I think she's the excitement of the

577
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: first you remember, Okay, here we go. You remember the

578
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,239
Speaker 1: first time you did drop her off to kinder. It

579
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: was like a whole New World. So they're all so

580
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: excited too. But then the second time they knew what

581
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: they're in for, and they're like, so next time you

582
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: might get that moment where it's like, fucking over, I'm going.

583
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: But if she's super excited, that's great.

584
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 2: I was outside the fence, okay, turn tables. She was like,

585
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 2: fuck after leave me alone. I can still see you

586
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 2: in the bushes, the rustling in the bushes.

587
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 4: But she was great. Picture up a few hours later.

588
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 4: She had a great time.

589
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 2: They do though.

590
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 4: I met some of the dads. Yeah, lovely dads.

591
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 2: Well, they like really nice, really nice. I made a

592
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 2: really shit joke, tells me. He goes.

593
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 4: The dad comes over and he goes, oh have you

594
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 4: this is we all come about ten minutes Daly to

595
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 4: pick up the kids. And he goes, ohre you here

596
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 4: to pick up your kids? Starting kindy and I said no, no,

597
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 4: the gig was opened, so I just walked in.

598
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 2: I like it. That's not ship.

599
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: That is great, a bit predatory, very I like it.

600
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 4: But then I was like the guy was like, oh,

601
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 4: I should make conversation mate, yeah, And I was like

602
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 4: I mean.

603
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And now he's with the other day's attitude

604
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: on him. That's great.

605
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 4: I do have a little message from Mali just to

606
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 4: let you know how she went. What was your favorite part.

607
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 2: Of schoolving many bike?

608
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 4: Are you excited to go to school now?

609
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: Oh? That's lovely?

610
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: Anyway, should we go into hack or funck that?

611
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 4: Mate?

612
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 2: Please?

613
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: Okay, I've got one for you. This is a parenting hack.

614
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: I've come up this on the run. I think it's genius.

615
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: Oscar picked his fingernail too short, and you know when

616
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: you do that, everything stings. Salt, lemon, any citrus?

617
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 4: How much citrus are you eating in your household?

618
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: My house is just full of citrus. Everywhere you go,

619
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 2: everybody you turn, you open the door, bam, citrus sleeps

620
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 2: on a bit of lemons.

621
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: It's better limes, so better than that orange. But anything,

622
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: he'll just complain anyway. So April went into the city

623
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: for a full day's work.

624
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: She only goes in every now and then. A very good.

625
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: I decided to go with showers instead of bath. What

626
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: a shower for the kids instead of a bath?

627
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 4: Great tie back to my original story of the bath household.

628
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: Thank you?

629
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: So I'm pro no bath, yes, just because showers quick.

630
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: Also like it's just easier bath. They just anyway we

631
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: can go on about are you in the bath in

632
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: the shower with them?

633
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 3: Nah?

634
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're shut the door. No, no, I mean I'm

635
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: in the bathroom. We don't have a door in our shower.

636
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: What's that like?

637
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: Anyway, he was complaining about he didn't want to get

638
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: his hand wet.

639
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: He didn't want to sting fair enough.

640
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: But I was like, okay, bro, I've got a solution

641
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: for you, and I'm going to show you.

642
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah what that is.

643
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: That is a zip lock bag over the hand of

644
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: Oscar and then I've used a handtye of Macy's to make.

645
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: That water time You've maguarded it, I've guarded it.

646
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 4: And he gives like a little night of this will do?

647
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 2: Do you know what?

648
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: The funny thing is? It didn't work. The water still

649
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: got in there and he didn't notice. And I was like,

650
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: there's water in there, Bro, did it sting? He's like,

651
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: it mustn't hurt anymore.

652
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:58,239
Speaker 2: You know what you need to do?

653
00:30:58,600 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 4: Git a glad wrap as well.

654
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: I was like, maybe I'll tape it up and I thought, nah,

655
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: just use a hair tie anyway, what do you reckon?

656
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: Good hack? Very good? Thank you very good, well done.

657
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: Thank you. The ingenuity on that is on the fly too.

658
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: I was like, I sat down after with the kids

659
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: in the bed and I was like, stonewood, I am good.

660
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: Fuck.

661
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 4: It's annoying though any little scratch. Lola is the worse

662
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Speaker 4: for it, where she was like.

663
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Speaker 2: I cannot get it wet, and so.

664
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Speaker 4: She'll be in the bath with like a foot on

665
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Speaker 4: knee hanging out because she want to get it wet,

666
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Speaker 4: and then and then until she forgets, and then she's

667
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Speaker 4: like next second, I'm like, see you're in the water,

668
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Speaker 4: and she's.

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Speaker 2: Like it out. My god. They're just over dramatized. That

670
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Speaker 2: is apparenting hack. By the way, thank you. You're welcome. Yes,

671
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: there he is first in a while.

672
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Speaker 1: It feels good. Should we go into questions? Matthew finishes

673
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Speaker 1: off strong with a couple of questions.

674
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Speaker 4: Yeah, please Ash. We have had this question submitted by Caitlin.

675
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Speaker 4: She's written in and she wants to know this is

676
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 4: a very interesting question. I would love to know your

677
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Speaker 4: take on this. What is your approach to alcohol with

678
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Speaker 4: your own kids.

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Speaker 2: They're a bit young at the moment, are they You're

680
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: never so young?

681
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Speaker 4: At what point do you think you will introduce your

682
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Speaker 4: kids to alcohol, or will you introduce them at all?

683
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Speaker 1: They already know that beer's daddy's. They'll see your case

684
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: in beer and they'll be like, daddy, look I was.

685
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: I think they're going to get to an age of teenagehood.

686
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Speaker 2: Of course, as we all do did whatever.

687
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Speaker 1: Some people didn't, but where you like, because they're dead,

688
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: they're dead, they're dead by then.

689
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Speaker 2: Shout out to those who didn't make it, well.

690
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Speaker 1: That's horrible, but I like it going it to an

691
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Speaker 1: age like where you're like, I remember getting to an

692
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Speaker 1: age around I'm.

693
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Speaker 2: Like, I have some beers.

694
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Speaker 1: And you hit it and you were like fifteen fourteen,

695
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Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen. Sure, I was like yeah, and I think

696
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Speaker 1: like I hit it. I had some friends that their

697
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Speaker 1: parents wouldn't enable it, but they were like, you can.

698
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Speaker 1: If you're going to do it, do it here because

699
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Speaker 1: you're in a controlled environment somewhat.

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Speaker 4: And if you're going to get a bit too tipsy,

701
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Speaker 4: it's better that it happens in someone's house, yea, rather

702
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Speaker 4: than down the park.

703
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Speaker 2: And vulnerable and anything could happen.

704
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Speaker 4: So did your parents ever allow you to have alcohol

705
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Speaker 4: at home before you eighteen?

706
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Speaker 2: Allow is a strong word.

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Speaker 1: I think they knew I was like giving in to

708
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Speaker 1: take a mile sort of guy.

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Speaker 2: I can imagine you can have one. You're going to

710
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Speaker 2: have one, maybe maybe one.

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Speaker 4: But rolling in with the keg, Yeah, it was said one.

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Speaker 1: I would say it was a semi strict environment where

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Speaker 1: I still hid majority of my drinking as a teenager

714
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Speaker 1: with my friend, I would do it in those windows

715
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Speaker 1: of opportunity, but I get shit faced.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what it's going to be, like,

717
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Speaker 2: what they're going to be like.

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Speaker 4: See I reckon, I'll do it the same way that

719
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Speaker 4: it was done for me when I was a kid,

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Speaker 4: and it's that definitely didn't encourage us to get shit fash.

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Speaker 2: She's like, what do you want? Long oland iced tea

722
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: short coming right up? Yes, five of them? Who wants

723
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: a wet pussy?

724
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Speaker 4: But for me, it was a case of the taboo

725
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Speaker 4: was removed from alcohol, so it wasn't like it wasn't

726
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Speaker 4: a case of me wanting to indulge because I thought

727
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Speaker 4: it was like the naughty thing to do.

728
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Speaker 2: And I think a lot of kids.

729
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Speaker 4: Really binge drink when they're underage because it's just a

730
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Speaker 4: naughty thing to do and they want to do something

731
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Speaker 4: that's against the rules, And so for me it wasn't

732
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Speaker 4: It wasn't a big deal to have my hands on

733
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Speaker 4: a bottle of alcohol in the way that I was

734
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Speaker 4: brought up at home. So I never felt like I've

735
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Speaker 4: got this small little window where I can break the

736
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Speaker 4: rules and I want to overindulge, whereas other kids who

737
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Speaker 4: were my age, when they were in households where the

738
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Speaker 4: parents had absolutely no idea that their son or daughter

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Speaker 4: were drinking, they were quite often the ones who were

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Speaker 4: then on the weekend get shif faced, binge drink.

741
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Speaker 2: To the extra to be drinking now either now like

742
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Speaker 2: which I think.

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Speaker 4: I think it was a case of like the best

744
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Speaker 4: example I can give, And if this makes sense, I

745
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 4: once worked in a lolly store and the rule was,

746
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Speaker 4: if you want to eat a lolly, you can eat

747
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Speaker 4: the lolly. And because you're allowed to do it, you

748
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 4: didn't really.

749
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Speaker 2: Want to eat.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you always think, like the rule if it

751
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Speaker 4: was like you cannot eat a single thing, you'd probably

752
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Speaker 4: want to like sneak a few lollies in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that might, I mean, that might work for you.

754
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: Some people at different Some people cannot help themselves. But

755
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: everyone's going to be different, right.

756
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 4: But I think if you introduce them in a controlled setting,

757
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 4: for me anyway, you probably.

758
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: Reduced the risk factor of anything happening. If Oscar's sitting

759
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 2: there having a.

760
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Speaker 1: Drink with me while watching the football at home and

761
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: his mates are out there getting shit faced and potentially

762
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: doing something risky, I know where I prefer him to be.

763
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 4: But then also you can be more aware of what

764
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 4: he's like when he's drinking. Yeah, so if you think

765
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 4: that he is going down a path where he's hitting

766
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 4: a bottle too hard, you can speak to them about

767
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 4: it and there's open conversation as opposed to it being

768
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 4: this thing that no one ever talks about. But I

769
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 4: definitely think that Laura and I will introduce our kids

770
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 4: as teenagers, and I'm talking like fifteen sixteen, I'll introduce

771
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 4: them to alcohol rather than do that with their friends

772
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 4: in a park with absolutely zero adult supervision.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would prefer to have OS's first

774
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: beer with Oscar. I'm going to have to work it

775
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: out when I get there, because I don't know what

776
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 1: sort of kid's going to be in ten years time,

777
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: what brain chemistry is made up of I don't know really,

778
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: if I was to have a drink with him now,

779
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: it would just be a fucking scrap, you know what

780
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: I mean? Much discussion, much to think about. Here's one

781
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: for you from Christo. We both have two kids. How

782
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: did you introduce your first kid to your second kid?

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00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 2: We approach it the same way, going Marley. This is

784
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 2: lower loss, Marley.

785
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 4: We did it more along the lines of how you

786
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 4: would introduce a child to a pet. Where we had

787
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 4: a rag a blanket if you will rag, and we

788
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 4: would it had it had long less scent on it,

789
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,479
Speaker 4: and we then introduced that to Marlo.

790
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 2: We would blanket from their at the airport.

791
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: Fuck airport hospital. Same thing, the blanket from the hospital.

792
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: Did you steal yours too?

793
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: Of course? I love how everyone.

794
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: We need to do something with that. There's something there.

795
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: This is a side note, there's something there stealing everyone

796
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: steals that blanket.

797
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,959
Speaker 4: I don't know where it is. But no, I didn't

798
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 4: actually do that, so I was joke.

799
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: I didn't.

800
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 4: I didn't introduce the center of my child.

801
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 2: Oh, from a rag.

802
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 1: So it took Marley's shoe toy?

803
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, how did you do it? Come on? Give us

804
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: a I think they were just there.

805
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 4: I think that was just there was no like, there

806
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 4: was no propit.

807
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 1: What was that helicopter we're invading, it's happening, your mum's

808
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: in the front room election.

809
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it just like there was no there

810
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 4: was no real moment it was.

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Speaker 2: Can I interject really quickly?

812
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: I think a lot of the lead up work is

813
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: done during the pregnancy, where they you're sort of like,

814
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: this is what to expect. You're going to have a

815
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: little brother or a little sister, or they're in mummy's

816
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: tummy and they've already bonded with it kind of already.

817
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: You think, it's not like it's like surprise. You know,

818
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: Laura was like bringing home a dog.

819
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 4: Because she was hiding the bump from Maley for the

820
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 4: whole pregnancy. There's a book called I Think You're a

821
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 4: Big Sister as well, which explains like, yeah, you're about

822
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 4: to have another person in the family and you're going

823
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 4: to be a big sister, which means that you're going

824
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 4: to have to do X, Y and Z and they're

825
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 4: going to be a bit loud and blah blah blahlah blah.

826
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: So that book great book.

827
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, by the time you come home from the hospital.

828
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: There might be the initial like from but Oscar being like, oh,

829
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: your little baby, and then.

830
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 4: Was it at home or in the hospital. At home,

831
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 4: I don't even think we brought I can't remember.

832
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 2: We didn't take Oscar at the hospital. I think we

833
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: did either.

834
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: Imagine another kid, imagine taking back to it all began

835
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: to be like yep, no anyway, So, I mean it

836
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: was awful in terms of I think Marley was like,

837
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: let me hold her, and we're like, okay, here she is,

838
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: and then the split second later Marley was trying to

839
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: rip an eye out with and we're like that's enough

840
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: for you guys, or like little girls like they undressed dolls, that.

841
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 2: L was naked.

842
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: Actually what Yeah, I think Yeah, from what I remember,

843
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: it was pretty smooth. But I know and I have

844
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: we were in the hospital with Macey and they had

845
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 1: like a class, like an introductory to your older sibling

846
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: class where it wasn't like they would just talk about that,

847
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: you know, like what the eldest couldn't get up to

848
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: because they might feel they're not getting the attention. They

849
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: might feel so I think it's not really the introduction

850
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: of the the younger sibling it's the dynamic, the new

851
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: dynamic that that you've got to share your love.

852
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: That would probably throw them off them.

853
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 4: But I think early doors, early doors that when that

854
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 4: bump is like showing the tiniest bin, but baby's coming.

855
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, just very vocal about it all the time. And

856
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 1: then also like make sure that you don't just neglect

857
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: the one easier to stake, to make easy, Yeah, they

858
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: say in that class, I do recall.

859
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 4: They make sure you still feed your other child.

860
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were like, make sure that you just fill

861
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: the cup with your other child as well, Like you,

862
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: I know you're going to be taken up so much

863
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: to include them in what you're doing, because they would

864
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: feel included and it might fill the cup up as well.

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Speaker 2: Am I a genius?

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Speaker 4: Beautifully sad, lovely good way to wrap up the episode.

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Speaker 2: Love What if you enjoyed.

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Speaker 1: Two dads, you've wrapped us up so nicely, Matthew, You've

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Speaker 1: forgotten one thing.

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Speaker 2: What's that we did?

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Speaker 1: Run a competition of course, of course, or a trip away.

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Speaker 4: The biggest competition we've ever run on this Podcastally we just.

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Speaker 1: Give away beer, but this time we give it away

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Speaker 1: a holiday. I think there'sre on the holiday.

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Speaker 2: I think there is.

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Speaker 1: They do sell be there, So Matthew a big shout

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Speaker 1: out to who Hannah Daily.

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Speaker 4: A huge thanks to everyone who submitted a video for

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Speaker 4: the competition. But Hannah, your blue paint video was amazing

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Speaker 4: and we think you were very deserving of a trip away.

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Speaker 4: So make sure you message us after your trip and

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Speaker 4: let us know how it went.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy well deserved, you deserve a break. I know you're

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Speaker 2: going to take your kids.

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Speaker 4: A few people are like, can we not take the kids?

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Speaker 4: Say here's leaving behind?

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Speaker 2: Leaving behind? Don't if you've guys as long as they

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Speaker 2: have supervision, yes, don't leave them here.

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Speaker 4: Enjoy the sundays. Great hotel, how much an island, What

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Speaker 4: a place to be at this time of year.

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Speaker 2: I do love it. The buffet beautiful. I just have

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Speaker 2: dreams of the buffet.

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Speaker 4: We'll have to give away another holiday to ourselves. We're

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Speaker 4: due a holiday a couple of weeks chomping.

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Speaker 2: Should we let them go? Now, let's get let's goad.

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Speaker 1: But I'm going to rip this nasal strip off right

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Speaker 1: nough two.

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Speaker 4: Doting Dads podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country throughout

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Speaker 4: Australia and the connections to land, sea and community.

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Speaker 1: We pay our respects to their elders past and present

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Speaker 1: and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torrestraight Islander

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Speaker 1: people's today.

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Speaker 2: This episode was recorded on Gadagle Land