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Speaker 1: Welcome to Them, Christian None Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: One of the things I've never seen before in my

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Speaker 2: life until I moved here to Australia. Driving with no

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Speaker 2: shoes on. Patsy, where do you stand on this? Your

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Speaker 2: shoe is driving?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I have done it before in my younger years, even

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Speaker 2: in a manual, which you know took a bit of coordination.

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Speaker 3: Would I do it now? Definitely not. No, I think

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Speaker 3: it's a bit bogan Villia and it might wreck.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I didn't know who was going to go that way.

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Speaker 2: Also, I love the way that my wife does to

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I ask a question, I just want yes or no.

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Speaker 2: Ago would I would?

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Speaker 4: I let me interviewing themselves.

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Speaker 3: I'll give you the history of my drives, breaking it

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Speaker 3: down by car type and automatic.

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Speaker 4: Would I do that now? I'm a Bunda.

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Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of driving with no shoes. I

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Speaker 3: actually feel like you get a better contact on the

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Speaker 3: pedal because you're raw to it and you've got a

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Speaker 3: better you got more feeling to it. Yes, because with

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Speaker 3: a shoe.

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Speaker 2: On, you anyway around the car into a rival. Some

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Speaker 2: because they couldn't get any kind of feel or contact.

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Speaker 2: We've been driving for decades with shoes on shop.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. With shoes, you can't feel where your

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Speaker 3: feet are.

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Speaker 2: I've never been confused, never never been in a car

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Speaker 2: accident luckily, and always had shoes on.

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Speaker 4: I know where my feet are.

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Speaker 3: Jack, there's a layer of rubber that's stopping you from

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Speaker 3: really knowing where the pedals are underfoot.

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Speaker 2: But if that was just it, whether it's lack of

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Speaker 2: contact with these little pedals, how the hell would you

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Speaker 2: walk down the street or just walk around your normal life.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know where my feet are right now.

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Speaker 3: I just don't like the argument that it's more dangerous

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Speaker 3: to drive without shoes. I can't see how that's possible.

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Speaker 2: I produce a rear on the show. He's a big

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Speaker 2: fan as Welly're driving out those shoes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think maybe what Jack's trying to articulate is you

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Speaker 5: can use your toes to kind of grip around the

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Speaker 5: pedal and the brake pedal and.

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Speaker 4: You footsy or something down there.

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Speaker 3: Right, it's a lot more sensitive.

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Speaker 2: If you're doing there's like a cat pluck it all

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Speaker 2: and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: You are you're more nimble, you have more control.

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Speaker 4: Example, you're on the keyboard like Stevie wonder.

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Speaker 2: More Field.

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Speaker 3: I will sometimes get in the car, take my shoes

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Speaker 3: and socks off drive, then put my shoes and socks

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Speaker 3: back on to get out of the cart.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, that's too much of it.

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Speaker 4: I'm also right, So is it is it? Is it

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Speaker 4: legal or illegal?

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Speaker 3: I've heard it's illegal. I think that's a myth. That

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Speaker 3: has to be a myth.

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Speaker 4: There must be there might, there will be ruling.

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Speaker 2: There are all states the same in Australia.

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Speaker 4: Is it illegal or illegal?

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Speaker 6: Mean?

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Speaker 4: Can you take your test shoeless?

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I wouldn't, thinking.

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Speaker 4: Why they go? Then there they go?

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Speaker 2: That's the Oh no, certainly that's wild man from the Pommy.

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Speaker 2: But you're like doing it day to day once I'm driving.

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Speaker 4: No, I wouldn't do it for the test. No, because

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Speaker 4: it's a test.

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Speaker 3: If I was an instructor and someone came with no shoes,

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Speaker 3: I'd be more worried about their judgment in general, and

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Speaker 3: then kind of judgments that would translate to you just.

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Speaker 1: Said shoes are fine on.

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Speaker 4: That person has get your back on to actually speak

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Speaker 4: for you today? That person do you see the way

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Speaker 4: he went for you as well? This is what the

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Speaker 4: young mens do Jack. He's trying to articulate there.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Rio speak today and then when he's off on

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Speaker 2: paternity leave, you won't get back in the door.

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Speaker 4: But articulator on.

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Speaker 3: Rio tell them what I'm trying to say.

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Speaker 5: Well, I've just quickly looked it up. So it's not

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Speaker 5: technically illegal to drive barefoot, but the police.

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Speaker 4: Can't say it's not technically round upon it.

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Speaker 2: Technically you're not allowed to kill someone, however, if they

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Speaker 2: are a bit irritating.

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Speaker 5: But a policeman can still find you if they believe

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Speaker 5: you are not in full control of your vehicle. So

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Speaker 5: if they think maybe your shoes or your shoeless.

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Speaker 2: Having some sort of tone massage the dexterity of what

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to say, let me call.

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Speaker 3: I would say if you had extremely sweaty feet, maybe

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Speaker 3: if you've been in the beach or something, you could

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Speaker 3: be a bit slippery on the pedals and that would

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Speaker 3: be dangerous. Don't undergo a sweat test.

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Speaker 2: Worry would be this, you out the car mat Sometimes

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Speaker 2: there's small sort of sediment or small pebbles around there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but not enough to graze.

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you this, you're moving.

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Speaker 2: That old bare foot around and stuff like that widely

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Speaker 2: driving because obviously foot on the accelerator did the one

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Speaker 2: sometimes has a bit of passivity, is what I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to say. Here, suddenly get that that gets a small

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Speaker 4: Or rock on it.

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Speaker 2: You go to that's me slamming on the brake. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you're gotta slam the brake. But because it's got a

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Speaker 2: little bit of pebble in it on the hill there,

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Speaker 2: the moment you put contact with a pedal, instinctively you're

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Speaker 2: going to go ah, you're going to move away from it.

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Speaker 4: That break isn't getting depressed?

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Speaker 3: How big are the pebbles in rocks? No, it means

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Speaker 3: it sounds like there's broken glass in your foot.

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Speaker 4: Well everything in there, mate, know it's like a floor

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Speaker 4: of cinema.

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Speaker 3: Just don't be a popcorn out when you finished with

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Speaker 3: a basically what my kids do?

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Speaker 4: They treat my car like the floor of a cinema.

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Speaker 4: All right, give us a call.

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Speaker 2: I think we need a bit more than technically it's

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Speaker 2: not legal legal, Can someone actually tell us what's called

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Speaker 2: commonly the law on this? And can you take a

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Speaker 2: drive into shoeless?

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Speaker 1: This is the Christian O'Connell show podcast.

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Speaker 2: We're talking right now about driving with or without shoes.

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Speaker 2: I Uh, it's not necessarily do with or without shoes.

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Speaker 2: But I remember a couple of weeks ago having to

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Speaker 2: go at my seventeen year old daughter, who's eighteen this

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Speaker 2: summer so can take a test. She's running up our hours,

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Speaker 2: and she left the house in a pair of hug boots,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, no, you can't even walk around

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Speaker 2: the house in those, right. You don't even pick your

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Speaker 2: feet up. You're shoffing around like an eskimo going to

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Speaker 2: get some fish. We're not getting in the car in

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Speaker 2: your rug boots too.

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Speaker 3: You'll press both pedals away.

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Speaker 2: Forget it might be making it around the corner, your

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Speaker 2: plowers into something. But I'm not a fan of driving

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Speaker 2: without shoes. Jack Apsity loves it. Patsy, you're not a

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Speaker 2: fan either.

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Speaker 4: I am no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: And so we don't know the moment REO produce the

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Speaker 2: real things. Technically it's not illegal, but we don't one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent know that.

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Speaker 4: Is that correct?

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Speaker 3: I think? I I either way, I refute that it's

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Speaker 3: more dangerous to go without shoes. I think it's safer

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Speaker 3: to go without shoes because you've got more acuity on

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Speaker 2: I do understand that now, I know me. You get

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Speaker 2: more feedback, right because it's just your it's it's.

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Speaker 3: Skin on skin, skin to rubber.

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Speaker 4: Now I get what it is, all right, we get it. Patsy,

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Speaker 4: he's one of those guys. Yeah, once a quick old

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Speaker 4: thrill at Corbos five. I'm not judging. I'm not just

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Speaker 4: if that's where it takes, I go the herbal t option.

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Speaker 4: You want to skin on rubber? Gary?

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Speaker 6: Good morning, Good morning Christian Gary.

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Speaker 4: What what do you do? You like driving without shoes?

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Speaker 4: What's to do with you? Mate?

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Speaker 6: I'd like to, but it's illegal. As you get caught,

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Speaker 6: you will pay the difference.

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Speaker 4: I did not.

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Speaker 6: You're not a llawd thongs If you've got sandals from

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Speaker 6: the strapper on the back, let's take cake because your

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Speaker 6: shoes are secured to your feet, got it? Um, it's

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Speaker 6: just the waw And I've been driving for forty eight years,

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Speaker 6: so the law has been the same for a long time.

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Speaker 6: Although we know how to flout the law. That it's

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Speaker 6: there for your own benefit. You wear footwear. I have

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Speaker 6: size sporting, but I have trouble. So you've got to

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Speaker 6: be very careful. And it is for your own health

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Speaker 6: and safety that you do where footwear, that the security

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Speaker 6: feet songs can come up and get stuck under your pedals,

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Speaker 6: and then.

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Speaker 4: Where do you go exactly?

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Speaker 3: I do hate driving in thongs. They don't feel safe.

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Speaker 3: But Gary, do you say that driving in bare feet

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Speaker 3: is danger?

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Speaker 4: Weren't flaunting the law, but it's it just.

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Speaker 3: One of those laws that they don't really check up on.

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Speaker 4: Well, they got short laws we don't really care that

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Speaker 4: much about.

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Speaker 2: It's one of those Yeah, let them go, let them go,

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Speaker 2: all right, Gary, Uh, we're going somewhere.

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Speaker 4: We don't really need to go about various Elaine good on?

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Speaker 3: What was that sandal strap again?

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Speaker 4: Elaine? Sorry, Elaine? Drive you with or without shoes without?

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Speaker 6: Always without?

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Speaker 4: And Gary, I hate to tell you this.

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Speaker 6: It may be the law, but not.

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Speaker 1: According to the burly senior sergeant who sat in the

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Speaker 1: car for my driving test for something years ago.

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Speaker 4: I learnt him bare feet.

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Speaker 3: I went for my license in bare feet.

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Speaker 4: I married. I took my mother's advice on that I

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Speaker 4: didn't get married.

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Speaker 6: The only point I will agree on is that it

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Speaker 6: is foolish and foolhardy to drive in songs that is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is bare feet.

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Speaker 2: No, so do you say the local police detective did

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Speaker 2: you drive in test?

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Speaker 6: I had a burly senior sergeant sitting in the back

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Speaker 6: while I went.

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Speaker 2: For my test.

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Speaker 4: Right, gotcha, Elaine, thank you very much for the detail.

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Speaker 3: No dramas play nice.

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Speaker 4: Working on Rubber Brier.

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