WEBVTT - TNC Review: Sachet Hot Chocolates 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:05.040 Ossies love our winter warming favorites a good old hot chocolate, 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:08.400 particularly when the temperatures are a bit chili Leand I 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:11.280 know it's not always the healthiest of options, and there 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:14.480 are plenty different varieties of the supermarket. So today we're 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:16.760 going to go through a range of the hot chocolate 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:19.440 sachets that are available at the supermarkets, which are pretty 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:23.280 affordable compared to coffee shop style hot chocolates. And then 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:26.120 you could argue even more nutritious than a regular hot 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:29.440 chocolate with marshmallows at the local cafe. Hi, I'm Puzzi 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:31.440 Burrows and Amile and Wood. And as two of us 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:34.520 jay Is leading dieticians who specialize in evidence based nutrition, 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:38.080 we bring you the Nutrition Couch Product Review, a weekly 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:40.800 chat on new products and old favorites that you can 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:44.559 find in the supermarket. Dan, I have never heard you 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:47.199 have a hot chocolate when we've been together. Do you 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:50.199 have a sneaky little hot drink after you dinner? Oh? 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:52.200 I do, but I normally have a cup of decaf tea. 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:54.240 I mean, I love chocolate in isolation. I love a 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:56.480 hot drink in isolation, but I'm not a hot chocolate 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:58.959 hot drink kind. Of girl like I would rarely help 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:00.520 one of it was the only thing offer and I 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:02.720 was out and about and it was freezing cold. I would, 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:04.680 but I just find it too overly sweet. Like don't 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:06.520 get me wrong, I'm not a purist. I like sweet things. 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:08.560 I like sugar, but I just find hot chocolates a 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:10.399 little bit too much for me. And I must admit 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:12.440 the first product that we're doing as a review today, 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:14.920 I did try. I used half a sashet only of 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:17.399 the you know, the sashet amount, and honestly I found 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:18.680 that too much as well. And I gave it to 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:21.560 David and he was like, oh, what is this. So 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:23.640 we're not We're not hot chocolate. People put it that way, 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:25.080 but we do love our coffee and we do love 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:27.360 our chocolate. But separately, well. 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:28.600 I have to be honest, I've got a bit of 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:32.080 a confession here on the Nutrition couch. I do drink these, 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:34.080 and in particular, the one I drink is not one 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:36.000 of the best ones. I've just realized I should have 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:38.559 been more across it, and I'll explain why in a second. 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:41.040 So I do like it, but I do don't. I 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:43.640 don't use the whole sashet as well, not because I'm cheap, 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:46.240 but I am pretty cheap anyway, but I just don't 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:48.960 need it. I just find it so intensely sweet. And 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:51.280 that's actually a really good lesson for people listening. But 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:52.760 if you find you do have a bit of a 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:55.080 what we would call addiction to sweet food, so you're 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:57.000 on the diet soft drinks and you sort of really 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:00.360 crave a lot of that intensely sweet product, simply weeding 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:02.640 off over time and gradually reducing the amounts, you know, 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:04.680 rather than having the whole count of coke, only drink 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:07.200 three quarters, or in the case of these hot chocolate drinks, 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:09.280 don't use the whole sashet, and you'll be surprised. You 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:12.200 really can wean your taste buds off those very intense flavors, 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:15.200 and particularly if they're artificials at least sweetened, which is 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:17.680 the one that I actually have is. But we've got 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:22.080 three good ones. There's certainly plenty and growing numbers in 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:24.600 the supermarket. And the one that took my eye a 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:26.120 few weeks to go and I sent it too straight 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:29.000 away was this new range coming out from Naked Life, 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:32.160 and they are quite savvy in their marketing because they 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:34.720 position it as kind of calming, and there's a few 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:36.600 different ones. I think there's one for energy and a 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:38.640 few different kind of buzzwords that you often see on 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:41.320 vitamin waters or energy drinks. And so we've got today 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:45.160 the Naked Lives ninety nine percent sugar free calm drinking chocolate. 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:48.040 Now it's a six pack at four fifty. They usually 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:50.239 retail at seven fifty. So this was something I just 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:52.400 had a quick look at. I think Bulli's I was at. 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:55.840 But that's not insignificant. You know, seven dollars fifty. It's 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.359 more than a dollar a sashet. Admittedly a lot cheaper 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:00.880 than a chocolate hot chocolate you bite the cafe, which 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:03.160 is sort of three four five dollars and at least 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:06.800 twenty grams of sugar, let's be honest. But yeah, not 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:09.560 insignificant in the budget spend. Certainly, if you're saving three 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:11.799 dollars on the packet of six year, it's worth stocking 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.400 up if you do like them. The ingredients that are interesting, 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:17.240 it's really focusing on the natural aspect. The first ingredient 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:20.840 is the natural sweetness erythrotol and stevia, so erythritol is 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:23.840 an alcohol sugar that is undigested through the system and 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:25.760 very sweet. And then of course stevia we know it's 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:29.000 a plant. Coco powder is seventeen percent, got a little 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:33.200 bit of glucose syrup, some hydrogenated coconut, weel, some stabilizers 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:38.000 and mulsifiers, natural flavors, corn fiber extracts, but hastened to sale, 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:41.000 and those things are very very small amounts basically to 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:44.680 create the consistency and texture of a hot chocolate drink 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:47.760 with very little else in it, because when we take 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:50.320 a closer look at the calories are very low, you know, 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:52.600 coming at the thirty four calper serve and less than 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:55.080 one grams of sugar, So that straightaway tells us that 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:57.280 these are additives that are in there, are in tiny, 0:03:57.320 --> 0:03:59.920 tiny amounts. But of course what they do market on 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.600 is a few of these little natural additions. So there 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:07.000 is some lemon in there. There's some magnesium sulfate salt 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:13.120 as well, so linking the calm benefits to the addition 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:16.200 of some magnesium, and certainly anecdotally we hear a lot 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.560 of people talking about magnesium, which we'll move on to 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:21.400 in a sec but you know, very smaller. There's seventeen 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:24.120 gram serve. You're getting thirty four calories, just over one 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:27.520 hundred and forty four kilodols, minimal protein, a little bit 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:29.440 of fat, you know, it's still low fat product one 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:32.600 point six grams thinking where that's coming from, a little 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:34.400 bit of that coconut oil in there again for that 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:38.040 consistency and texture. Three point four grams of total carbohydrate, 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:41.160 less than one gram of sugar, very little sodium, a 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:43.080 little bit of dietary fiber, which is a bit random 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.280 at one point three grams. You wouldn't normally see that 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:48.440 fiber in a hot drink, coming from the corn fiber. 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.880 And then not any calcium. There's no dairy in there, 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:55.680 but an eighteen milligram serve of magnesium, which is from 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:59.000 what I can see, six percent of the recommended daily intake. Now, 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.120 So I think when it comes to these really low 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.599 coale foods, usually for clients, if it's less than one 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:06.440 hundred kilodors per seve, I don't pay a whole lot 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:10.280 of attention. This is slightly higher. What I like about 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:12.960 it is it's a natural sweetener. Would I be buying 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.599 it for magnesium? No, I'm not a massive fan of 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:17.839 magnesium supplementation. I find it can cause a lot of 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:20.119 gastric distress. And I find that if people are eating 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:23.640 nut seeds and whole grains and even good quality Duckt chocolate, 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:26.400 they're getting more than enough magnesium from those natural sources. 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:28.520 So I certainly wouldn't be recommending my clients buy this 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:31.320 for the magnesium benefit. But there's certainly nothing wrong with 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:35.000 this product, and certainly it's a natural variety. Oh, you 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:37.400 said it was very sweet when you tasted it, very sweeten. 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:39.360 I used to have a sashe Yeah, because the top 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:42.000 ingredient are a erythrotol and stevia. The natural sweetness is 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:43.599 the top ingredient, not coco. 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:44.839 And that you know, the cocoa would give it a 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.320 more bitter flavor. So I you know, if I've got 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.960 a client who likes these drinks, So for example, if 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:52.280 you wanted to go naturally you were happy to spend 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:54.839 the money on this, I would also suggest my clients 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:56.839 at it and enjoy it with some milk. So hot 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:59.360 water and milk almost in a milo like consistency, so 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:02.000 you're still getting some dairy and calcium, and that would 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:05.320 then dilute some of that intense sweetness, So certainly it's 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:07.560 a product I would use. I haven't recommended it, and 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:09.520 I certainly wouldn't be based on the fact that there's 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:13.280 a calm effect, but as a locale sweet addition at 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:16.000 night that certainly you could add some dairy or fortified 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:19.279 soy or almond milk to it. It could be quite 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:21.760 a nutritious locale addition to your day. I don't really 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:24.360 have any massive issue with it. I think with people 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:26.880 who perhaps are sensitive to tummy distress, you do have 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:30.440 to be careful with supplemented magnesium. Admittedly in a whole 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:32.200 food it's not going to have a dumping effect the 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:36.520 way it can when people really concentrate up the powders 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.920 in a concentrated supplement form. But yeah, for me, i'd 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:41.720 give it like four out of five. I think it's 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:44.640 really pretty good, and probably the only thing that would 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:46.840 hold me back recommending it would be the price. It's 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.360 not inexpensive for sort of something that doesn't have a 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:52.080 lot of calories or nutrition in it, but certainly a 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:54.600 million times better than straw bought hot chocolates and some 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:55.960 of the ones that we're going to look at in 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:58.719 a sec that you can also find in supermarket. 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:00.440 And I do think it's important to note was like 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.479 a I would say, like a medical claim on the 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:04.840 side of the packet, so it basically says I only 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:08.320 recommended maximum one per day, not suitable for children, not 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:10.640 suitable for anybody under fifteen years of age, and not 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.160 suitable for pregnant women, and should only be used under 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:16.640 medical or dietetic supervision. So I mean, that's probably something 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:19.720 they're protecting themselves from sort of a legal perspective, but 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:21.280 I just think that that's something to be aware of. 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:22.760 So we wouldn't be giving this to our kids. We 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.120 wouldn't be having this if we were a pregnant person. 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:27.960 I think, just because it is considered a supplementary food 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.680 with the addition of things like magnism in there, even 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:32.480 though it is in a really small amount. But I 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:34.920 must have been Susia. I didn't feel any more zen 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.760 or sleepy or calm after I had this. If anything, 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:39.840 I probably felt the opposite of calm because I was like, oh, 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:40.840 that's so sweet. 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:43.720 One hundred percent. And I think it's interesting it's this 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:46.559 kind of food groups where people are really tapping into 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.760 people's sensitive issues. Like, you know, they need to sleep 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:52.200 or relax or have more energy. So there's a little 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:57.200 bit of health halo. I think associated with those buzzwords 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.560 not harmful. I wouldn't have any real concern over it. 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:01.720 But I don't think just having that hot chocolate rink 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:03.520 is going to make you any more calm. It did 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:05.320 the opposite time you would if you had a handful 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:07.520 of nuts before you went to bed, yeah, or did 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:10.200 some meditation exactly. You know, if you enjoy it, it's more. 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:12.360 You know, it's not a cheap product. And so with clients, 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:15.880 I'm always mindful of not recommending foods that are incredibly expensive. 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:19.000 But certainly, then if people are using that at work 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:21.520 over going out and buying at an expensive hot chocolate 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:25.160 that's packed full of sugar, I would be very much 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:27.400 prefer them to be having something like this then going 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:29.640 down to the cafe and getting you know, let's be honest, 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.120 at least twenty, if not thirty grams of sugar and 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:34.600 a hot chocolate that you typically get from cafes. So 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:38.680 certainly in that example, I would be preferring this variety. 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:40.800 And they're worth checking out there in the supermarkets, And 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:43.440 I would say we'll see more and more from this brand. 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:45.679 And also with that, with a cafe option as well, 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:47.600 you typically get the marshmallows as well, which you can 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:49.599 actually say no to. Marshmallow is right. So when you 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:51.600 look at the price point, it is actually a lot 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:54.080 cheaper compared to a cafe coffee. But compared to the 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:56.360 rest of the other hot chocolates available in sachets that 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:58.520 you can make yourself at home, it is are It 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:01.280 is a higher price point, not really paying for much 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:03.640 more because I think that calming effect is more sort 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:06.319 of a buzzword or a health halo as such, so 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:08.480 I recommend it as well. So I think it's a 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:10.400 pretty good option. But we've got two more to share 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:11.520 with our listeners today, don't we. 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:13.880 But we do, and so I have to. This is 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:16.760 the confession time. This is the one that I buy Dodgy. 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:18.960 This is one I recommend my clients as well until 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:21.000 we saw that first wife, and it has been the 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:23.719 standout in it has been the standout in the hot 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:26.240 chocolate sachets in the supermarket. I must admit I have 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:27.360 recommended this for many years. 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:29.160 I like the taste of it, I always have, and 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:30.800 I don't drink it in summer. I only have it 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:33.199 in winter, but it is my favorite. Now it's the 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:36.480 Jarra Classic Hot chocolates. Now there's lots of different Jarras. 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:39.760 There's caramel and all different flavors. I only myself ever 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:42.040 buy the plain one, just because I like it. And 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:45.120 we're comparing that now, and it is ten pack is 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:47.920 six dollars. Now that's got up again. I remember where 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.640 it used to be four four fifty. So in recent 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:54.920 weeks as we've seen huge amounts of inflation with all 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:59.320 packaged foods in general. So it's so, how much is 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:01.679 that perserve? It's just sick. This is sixty cents per 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:03.199 serve versus how much was the other one? 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:05.839 It was over a dollar because yeah, normally retails with 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:08.200 seven fifty for six, so it's almost half. 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:10.040 And if you get them on sale, as I try to, 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.959 they're sort of four four fifty. And as I said, 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.000 there's quite the trick in using only half because you 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:18.679 make it go a lot longer. So nutritionally, the ingredients 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:23.760 milk solids, glucose solids, cocoa seventeen percent, still vegetable oil 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:26.360 which is a coconut. Again, to get the consistency that 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:30.240 they're looking for mineral salts vegetable gum. And the reason 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:33.840 that what I would say on the Nutrition Couch podcast 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:37.280 is probably I wouldn't generally recommend it. It does contain an 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:39.280 artificial sweetener, which is nine to five one, which is 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:41.840 a sparta which has been around for many years and 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:44.840 is in food, and generally I tell people to avoid 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:49.000 artificial sweetness in where they can. So the question is 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:51.280 I include it because I just think small amounts of 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:52.840 anything at the end of the world. But it is 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.679 incredibly sweet, and I would say you don't need the 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:58.760 whole saturae. And I do mix mine with milk, so 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:01.200 it does have a really nice with this one. It doesn't. 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:03.640 I also finally, and the powder doesn't all mix anyway. 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:06.599 If you use it. It's really got probably two good tablespoons, 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:09.439 that's how it feels. It's only eleven point five grams, 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:11.319 but it really is a lot of sort of powder, 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:14.040 and I find it just doesn't mix in, especially if 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:15.960 you've got any a small cup, so you really don't 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:19.920 need it. And it's coming in it just over one 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.959 ninety is that one ninety one ninety six kilosule? Yeah, 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:26.280 one ninety six kilogels, So what's that about? Forty five 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:29.160 calories per serve, just over a grammar protein, so a 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:31.880 little bit coming through the milk. Solids are still a 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:34.880 low fat product with less than one gram of SAT 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:39.360 per hundred grams, so the carbohydrate load is six point 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:42.880 nine grams and four point one grams of sugars, so 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:45.640 just shy of a teaspoon of sugar if you use 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:50.400 the whole sachet, which for me is still relatively insignificant. No, 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:52.640 not much. A little bit of sodium actually one fifty four, 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:55.000 which isn't insignificant I guess for a drink like this, 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:57.880 but very little dietary fiber. So it's one of those 0:11:57.880 --> 0:11:59.679 foods to me. It doesn't have very much in it 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:02.559 if you have half of it. It's a sweet thing 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:04.400 if you're getting a lot of flavor, because I think 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:06.960 lea and the reason I like it is, you know 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.960 how when you're trying to give yourself a treat or 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:13.439 something sweet, if you try and have something that's kind 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:16.840 of healthier, it often doesn't satisfy you, so you keep 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:18.679 looking for stuff anyway. So if you have a hot 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:21.840 chocolate that's not overly nice and you think, oh, I've 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.679 had it, but it didn't really satisfy me. I find myself, 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:26.959 and even with clients, they'll keep looking for stuff anyway, 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:31.080 whereas myself, I find that flavor profile and texture they've 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:34.160 achieved with Jara is a really nice mouthfeel, So when 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:36.960 you have it, you feel really satisfied. So it's not 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:39.199 like you need to keep going and eating sweet food. 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:42.079 And that's why I personally like it, and I also 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:45.239 recommend it to my clients because they really find it satisfying. 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:47.400 And there is quite a few flavors and so if 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:50.040 you like caramel or whatever your mint, you know they 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.840 all fit into that kind of flavor profile. So for me, 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:56.680 the benefits outweigh the negative. So it means a client's 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:58.120 not going to eat a block of chocolate or two 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:02.240 chocolate biskirts. They've had an enjoyable treat that's got less 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:04.440 than five grams of sugars and a little bit of 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:08.240 a spataime. I'm pretty happy. But I would get I 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:11.040 get that purists would be listening thinking, no, it's got 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:13.520 artificial sweetener. I don't want it. And that's where it 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:16.360 really comes down to what you're comfortable eating and recommending, 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.440 and with my clients, I say to them, look, if 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:21.160 you go to the hot chocolate section, there is a 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:24.320 whole range of hot chocolate drinks out there that come 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:27.000 in at less than one hundred calories. You take your pick. 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:29.240 So if you prefer the Naked Life one, or if 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:32.160 there's a different one you prefer, go for it. This 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:34.160 is a good one. I like it, but everyone's different, 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:36.079 and I've certainly have got clients who you know, we've 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:39.600 had Avalanche on the program before. There's also Avalanche ones 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.000 which have a whole range. Now that's not my personal preference, 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:43.640 but I have a whole lot of clients who love it. 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.080 So I think for me in this category, there are 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:48.120 certainly options. And if it means that you're not binge 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:51.760 eating on chocolate blocks and chocolate biscuits and the like, 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:52.640 I'm pretty happy. 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:55.360 And I think even my clients, some of them tend 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:56.760 to make their own at home, so they just use 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.080 like a tea spoin or two of Coroco powder, hot water, 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:00.720 put a little bit of stevy in it, and some 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:02.319 of them even add a little bit of like chocolate 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:04.920 flavored protein powder. That's not my jam. It's not something 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:07.080 I do, but it's something that they really really enjoy it, 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:09.120 you know, in winter. So there are creative options that 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:10.600 you can do at home, and that's probably a lot 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:13.200 more affordable making yourself as well. But I agree with 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:15.640 you here, like we're not promoting artificial sweetness, but if 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:18.360 you look at the ingredient list, the artificial sweetness right 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:20.200 down the bottom. So the amount of that you're getting 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:22.880 is very minimal compared to the previous product where the 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:25.320 sweetener was the very first ingredient. This is a very 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:27.760 last ingredient here. And if you're doing what Susie does 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.360 and you're using only half the sachet, you're actually getting 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:32.400 just a really really small amount. Of course, we're not 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:35.640 recommending artificial sweetness. We're not saying, yeah, have them, they're fine, 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:37.960 but it's a very small amount in the grand scheme 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:40.360 of things. And same with the sugar. People think, oh, chokho, 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:42.920 it's got four grams of sugar per serving. It's a 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:45.680 hot chocolate, Like what do people expect? So again I 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.720 think that's a very small amount of sugar compared to 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:50.760 if you would go to go into your local cafe 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:53.120 and you got the normal hot chocolate with the marshmallows 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:56.040 added in would be no matter what, ZUZI probably well 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:57.520 over twenty grams of sugar easily. 0:14:57.600 --> 0:14:59.560 Oh at least I think high, because let's be honest, 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.640 people don't are small. They get a medium and at 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:04.840 least twenty, you know, four or five tea spoons. When 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:06.520 I see a hot chocolate or a food diary almost 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:09.400 have a coronary because it's just such a it's your 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:12.800 entire recommended daily intake. Added sugars in a drink, so 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:16.920 certainly not a better option. So yeah, I think it's 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:18.400 good to talk about that a little bit because if 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:20.920 people are to your coffee drinkers, they're often ordering a 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:23.240 cheicy hot chocolate at the coffee chop, and let's not 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:25.880 pretend for a second it's remotely healthy. And then what 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:28.840 we did, Leanne, we threw in a random. 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:30.840 It's a popular, very popular random matter? 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:32.520 Is it popular? Oh? 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.400 Sarbucks is an internationally recognized brand. It's very popular. I've 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:37.120 had a few clients of asking what I thought, and 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:39.040 I'm like, just take one look at the ingredient list. 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:43.440 Okay, so we picked the Starbucks signature salted caramel, which 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:45.280 is nice. Isn't a hot chocolate, so this is a 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:48.320 ten pac seven sixty. So in between the first naked 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:51.360 product and what you pay person for the jarrot about 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:55.120 seventy six cents. So if this is basically a full 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:58.800 strength hot chocolate, so first ingredient's chocolate powder at ninety 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:01.280 eight percent, followed by which is sugar, so the first 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:05.000 grade is really sugar, cocoa powder which is forty two percent, 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:09.120 a mulsifier to mix it in some flavor, salt, cocoa solids, 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:13.840 cocoa butter, but no sweetness. So if we look per serve, 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:16.360 it's twenty two grams serve. It's a sachet as well, 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:20.160 almost one hundred cow, so about eighty six cowper serve, 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.640 so sort of slightly more, but I actually think not 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:27.040 that much more for what you're getting one point eight 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:29.560 grams of protein two point two grams of fat, so 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:31.520 it's not a low fat product. It's coming into almost 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:34.600 ten percent fat thanks to that proportion of cocoa butter, 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:38.080 and relatively high and saturated fat overall, but not per 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:41.200 serve because the serve is quite small. Thirteen point six 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:43.640 grams of carbohydrate and twelve point five grams of sugar, 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:47.240 so that's almost three teaspoons of sugar in that serve, 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:50.240 So indeed, if you again halved it, and I haven't 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:52.160 tried it, so I don't know how what the flavor's like, 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:54.120 but if you halved it, you're getting sort of almost 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:57.200 two teaspoons, so it's more durable. Getting two point six 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:59.080 grams of fiber, which is a bit roundom again in 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:01.160 a hot chocolate, I don't know where that's coming from, 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:05.399 and low sodium. So the position I sit here earlier. 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:09.720 It's a bit controversial, is that, because they've also listed 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:11.240 if you have it with milk, so it's quite a 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:15.840 substantial snack. But if you're someone who is not is 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:18.200 pretty healthy, you don't have a lot of added sugar 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:20.440 in your diet, so you don't have much packaged stack food, 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:23.359 you don't add things like honey and fruit juices to 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:27.560 your diet, and you really enjoy a good hot chocolate 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:29.680 drink and don't want to use sweetness. You're really looking 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:32.280 for the flavor. This is a good product. It's less 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:35.680 still than one hundred calories. Yes, it's got proportionally quite 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:38.000 a high amount of sugar, but in the diet of 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:40.879 someone who's pretty healthy overall, who would prefer an unsweet 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:44.239 natural product. I don't know. I'm not giving it, you know, 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:46.520 I'm not writing it off completely, so I think it's 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:49.360 got some positives there as well. Now I haven't tried it, 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:51.800