Speaker 1: Ossies love our winter warming favorites a good old hot chocolate,
Speaker 1: particularly when the temperatures are a bit chili Leand I
Speaker 1: know it's not always the healthiest of options, and there
Speaker 1: are plenty different varieties of the supermarket. So today we're
Speaker 1: going to go through a range of the hot chocolate
Speaker 1: sachets that are available at the supermarkets, which are pretty
Speaker 1: affordable compared to coffee shop style hot chocolates. And then
Speaker 1: you could argue even more nutritious than a regular hot
Speaker 1: chocolate with marshmallows at the local cafe. Hi, I'm Puzzi
Speaker 1: Burrows and Amile and Wood. And as two of us
Speaker 1: jay Is leading dieticians who specialize in evidence based nutrition,
Speaker 1: we bring you the Nutrition Couch Product Review, a weekly
Speaker 1: chat on new products and old favorites that you can
Speaker 1: find in the supermarket. Dan, I have never heard you
Speaker 1: have a hot chocolate when we've been together. Do you
Speaker 1: have a sneaky little hot drink after you dinner? Oh?
Speaker 2: I do, but I normally have a cup of decaf tea.
Speaker 2: I mean, I love chocolate in isolation. I love a
Speaker 2: hot drink in isolation, but I'm not a hot chocolate
Speaker 2: hot drink kind. Of girl like I would rarely help
Speaker 2: one of it was the only thing offer and I
Speaker 2: was out and about and it was freezing cold. I would,
Speaker 2: but I just find it too overly sweet. Like don't
Speaker 2: get me wrong, I'm not a purist. I like sweet things.
Speaker 2: I like sugar, but I just find hot chocolates a
Speaker 2: little bit too much for me. And I must admit
Speaker 2: the first product that we're doing as a review today,
Speaker 2: I did try. I used half a sashet only of
Speaker 2: the you know, the sashet amount, and honestly I found
Speaker 2: that too much as well. And I gave it to
Speaker 2: David and he was like, oh, what is this. So
Speaker 2: we're not We're not hot chocolate. People put it that way,
Speaker 2: but we do love our coffee and we do love
Speaker 2: our chocolate. But separately, well.
Speaker 1: I have to be honest, I've got a bit of
Speaker 1: a confession here on the Nutrition couch. I do drink these,
Speaker 1: and in particular, the one I drink is not one
Speaker 1: of the best ones. I've just realized I should have
Speaker 1: been more across it, and I'll explain why in a second.
Speaker 1: So I do like it, but I do don't. I
Speaker 1: don't use the whole sashet as well, not because I'm cheap,
Speaker 1: but I am pretty cheap anyway, but I just don't
Speaker 1: need it. I just find it so intensely sweet. And
Speaker 1: that's actually a really good lesson for people listening. But
Speaker 1: if you find you do have a bit of a
Speaker 1: what we would call addiction to sweet food, so you're
Speaker 1: on the diet soft drinks and you sort of really
Speaker 1: crave a lot of that intensely sweet product, simply weeding
Speaker 1: off over time and gradually reducing the amounts, you know,
Speaker 1: rather than having the whole count of coke, only drink
Speaker 1: three quarters, or in the case of these hot chocolate drinks,
Speaker 1: don't use the whole sashet, and you'll be surprised. You
Speaker 1: really can wean your taste buds off those very intense flavors,
Speaker 1: and particularly if they're artificials at least sweetened, which is
Speaker 1: the one that I actually have is. But we've got
Speaker 1: three good ones. There's certainly plenty and growing numbers in
Speaker 1: the supermarket. And the one that took my eye a
Speaker 1: few weeks to go and I sent it too straight
Speaker 1: away was this new range coming out from Naked Life,
Speaker 1: and they are quite savvy in their marketing because they
Speaker 1: position it as kind of calming, and there's a few
Speaker 1: different ones. I think there's one for energy and a
Speaker 1: few different kind of buzzwords that you often see on
Speaker 1: vitamin waters or energy drinks. And so we've got today
Speaker 1: the Naked Lives ninety nine percent sugar free calm drinking chocolate.
Speaker 1: Now it's a six pack at four fifty. They usually
Speaker 1: retail at seven fifty. So this was something I just
Speaker 1: had a quick look at. I think Bulli's I was at.
Speaker 1: But that's not insignificant. You know, seven dollars fifty. It's
Speaker 1: more than a dollar a sashet. Admittedly a lot cheaper
Speaker 1: than a chocolate hot chocolate you bite the cafe, which
Speaker 1: is sort of three four five dollars and at least
Speaker 1: twenty grams of sugar, let's be honest. But yeah, not
Speaker 1: insignificant in the budget spend. Certainly, if you're saving three
Speaker 1: dollars on the packet of six year, it's worth stocking
Speaker 1: up if you do like them. The ingredients that are interesting,
Speaker 1: it's really focusing on the natural aspect. The first ingredient
Speaker 1: is the natural sweetness erythrotol and stevia, so erythritol is
Speaker 1: an alcohol sugar that is undigested through the system and
Speaker 1: very sweet. And then of course stevia we know it's
Speaker 1: a plant. Coco powder is seventeen percent, got a little
Speaker 1: bit of glucose syrup, some hydrogenated coconut, weel, some stabilizers
Speaker 1: and mulsifiers, natural flavors, corn fiber extracts, but hastened to sale,
Speaker 1: and those things are very very small amounts basically to
Speaker 1: create the consistency and texture of a hot chocolate drink
Speaker 1: with very little else in it, because when we take
Speaker 1: a closer look at the calories are very low, you know,
Speaker 1: coming at the thirty four calper serve and less than
Speaker 1: one grams of sugar, So that straightaway tells us that
Speaker 1: these are additives that are in there, are in tiny,
Speaker 1: tiny amounts. But of course what they do market on
Speaker 1: is a few of these little natural additions. So there
Speaker 1: is some lemon in there. There's some magnesium sulfate salt
Speaker 1: as well, so linking the calm benefits to the addition
Speaker 1: of some magnesium, and certainly anecdotally we hear a lot
Speaker 1: of people talking about magnesium, which we'll move on to
Speaker 1: in a sec but you know, very smaller. There's seventeen
Speaker 1: gram serve. You're getting thirty four calories, just over one
Speaker 1: hundred and forty four kilodols, minimal protein, a little bit
Speaker 1: of fat, you know, it's still low fat product one
Speaker 1: point six grams thinking where that's coming from, a little
Speaker 1: bit of that coconut oil in there again for that
Speaker 1: consistency and texture. Three point four grams of total carbohydrate,
Speaker 1: less than one gram of sugar, very little sodium, a
Speaker 1: little bit of dietary fiber, which is a bit random
Speaker 1: at one point three grams. You wouldn't normally see that
Speaker 1: fiber in a hot drink, coming from the corn fiber.
Speaker 1: And then not any calcium. There's no dairy in there,
Speaker 1: but an eighteen milligram serve of magnesium, which is from
Speaker 1: what I can see, six percent of the recommended daily intake. Now,
Speaker 1: So I think when it comes to these really low
Speaker 1: coale foods, usually for clients, if it's less than one
Speaker 1: hundred kilodors per seve, I don't pay a whole lot
Speaker 1: of attention. This is slightly higher. What I like about
Speaker 1: it is it's a natural sweetener. Would I be buying
Speaker 1: it for magnesium? No, I'm not a massive fan of
Speaker 1: magnesium supplementation. I find it can cause a lot of
Speaker 1: gastric distress. And I find that if people are eating
Speaker 1: nut seeds and whole grains and even good quality Duckt chocolate,
Speaker 1: they're getting more than enough magnesium from those natural sources.
Speaker 1: So I certainly wouldn't be recommending my clients buy this
Speaker 1: for the magnesium benefit. But there's certainly nothing wrong with
Speaker 1: this product, and certainly it's a natural variety. Oh, you
Speaker 1: said it was very sweet when you tasted it, very sweeten.
Speaker 2: I used to have a sashe Yeah, because the top
Speaker 2: ingredient are a erythrotol and stevia. The natural sweetness is
Speaker 2: the top ingredient, not coco.
Speaker 1: And that you know, the cocoa would give it a
Speaker 1: more bitter flavor. So I you know, if I've got
Speaker 1: a client who likes these drinks, So for example, if
Speaker 1: you wanted to go naturally you were happy to spend
Speaker 1: the money on this, I would also suggest my clients
Speaker 1: at it and enjoy it with some milk. So hot
Speaker 1: water and milk almost in a milo like consistency, so
Speaker 1: you're still getting some dairy and calcium, and that would
Speaker 1: then dilute some of that intense sweetness, So certainly it's
Speaker 1: a product I would use. I haven't recommended it, and
Speaker 1: I certainly wouldn't be based on the fact that there's
Speaker 1: a calm effect, but as a locale sweet addition at
Speaker 1: night that certainly you could add some dairy or fortified
Speaker 1: soy or almond milk to it. It could be quite
Speaker 1: a nutritious locale addition to your day. I don't really
Speaker 1: have any massive issue with it. I think with people
Speaker 1: who perhaps are sensitive to tummy distress, you do have
Speaker 1: to be careful with supplemented magnesium. Admittedly in a whole
Speaker 1: food it's not going to have a dumping effect the
Speaker 1: way it can when people really concentrate up the powders
Speaker 1: in a concentrated supplement form. But yeah, for me, i'd
Speaker 1: give it like four out of five. I think it's
Speaker 1: really pretty good, and probably the only thing that would
Speaker 1: hold me back recommending it would be the price. It's
Speaker 1: not inexpensive for sort of something that doesn't have a
Speaker 1: lot of calories or nutrition in it, but certainly a
Speaker 1: million times better than straw bought hot chocolates and some
Speaker 1: of the ones that we're going to look at in
Speaker 1: a sec that you can also find in supermarket.
Speaker 2: And I do think it's important to note was like
Speaker 2: a I would say, like a medical claim on the
Speaker 2: side of the packet, so it basically says I only
Speaker 2: recommended maximum one per day, not suitable for children, not
Speaker 2: suitable for anybody under fifteen years of age, and not
Speaker 2: suitable for pregnant women, and should only be used under
Speaker 2: medical or dietetic supervision. So I mean, that's probably something
Speaker 2: they're protecting themselves from sort of a legal perspective, but
Speaker 2: I just think that that's something to be aware of.
Speaker 2: So we wouldn't be giving this to our kids. We
Speaker 2: wouldn't be having this if we were a pregnant person.
Speaker 2: I think, just because it is considered a supplementary food
Speaker 2: with the addition of things like magnism in there, even
Speaker 2: though it is in a really small amount. But I
Speaker 2: must have been Susia. I didn't feel any more zen
Speaker 2: or sleepy or calm after I had this. If anything,
Speaker 2: I probably felt the opposite of calm because I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's so sweet.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. And I think it's interesting it's this
Speaker 1: kind of food groups where people are really tapping into
Speaker 1: people's sensitive issues. Like, you know, they need to sleep
Speaker 1: or relax or have more energy. So there's a little
Speaker 1: bit of health halo. I think associated with those buzzwords
Speaker 1: not harmful. I wouldn't have any real concern over it.
Speaker 1: But I don't think just having that hot chocolate rink
Speaker 1: is going to make you any more calm. It did
Speaker 1: the opposite time you would if you had a handful
Speaker 1: of nuts before you went to bed, yeah, or did
Speaker 1: some meditation exactly. You know, if you enjoy it, it's more.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not a cheap product. And so with clients,
Speaker 1: I'm always mindful of not recommending foods that are incredibly expensive.
Speaker 1: But certainly, then if people are using that at work
Speaker 1: over going out and buying at an expensive hot chocolate
Speaker 1: that's packed full of sugar, I would be very much
Speaker 1: prefer them to be having something like this then going
Speaker 1: down to the cafe and getting you know, let's be honest,
Speaker 1: at least twenty, if not thirty grams of sugar and
Speaker 1: a hot chocolate that you typically get from cafes. So
Speaker 1: certainly in that example, I would be preferring this variety.
Speaker 1: And they're worth checking out there in the supermarkets, And
Speaker 1: I would say we'll see more and more from this brand.
Speaker 2: And also with that, with a cafe option as well,
Speaker 2: you typically get the marshmallows as well, which you can
Speaker 2: actually say no to. Marshmallow is right. So when you
Speaker 2: look at the price point, it is actually a lot
Speaker 2: cheaper compared to a cafe coffee. But compared to the
Speaker 2: rest of the other hot chocolates available in sachets that
Speaker 2: you can make yourself at home, it is are It
Speaker 2: is a higher price point, not really paying for much
Speaker 2: more because I think that calming effect is more sort
Speaker 2: of a buzzword or a health halo as such, so
Speaker 2: I recommend it as well. So I think it's a
Speaker 2: pretty good option. But we've got two more to share
Speaker 2: with our listeners today, don't we.
Speaker 1: But we do, and so I have to. This is
Speaker 1: the confession time. This is the one that I buy Dodgy.
Speaker 2: This is one I recommend my clients as well until
Speaker 2: we saw that first wife, and it has been the
Speaker 2: standout in it has been the standout in the hot
Speaker 2: chocolate sachets in the supermarket. I must admit I have
Speaker 2: recommended this for many years.
Speaker 1: I like the taste of it, I always have, and
Speaker 1: I don't drink it in summer. I only have it
Speaker 1: in winter, but it is my favorite. Now it's the
Speaker 1: Jarra Classic Hot chocolates. Now there's lots of different Jarras.
Speaker 1: There's caramel and all different flavors. I only myself ever
Speaker 1: buy the plain one, just because I like it. And
Speaker 1: we're comparing that now, and it is ten pack is
Speaker 1: six dollars. Now that's got up again. I remember where
Speaker 1: it used to be four four fifty. So in recent
Speaker 1: weeks as we've seen huge amounts of inflation with all
Speaker 1: packaged foods in general. So it's so, how much is
Speaker 1: that perserve? It's just sick. This is sixty cents per
Speaker 1: serve versus how much was the other one?
Speaker 2: It was over a dollar because yeah, normally retails with
Speaker 2: seven fifty for six, so it's almost half.
Speaker 1: And if you get them on sale, as I try to,
Speaker 1: they're sort of four four fifty. And as I said,
Speaker 1: there's quite the trick in using only half because you
Speaker 1: make it go a lot longer. So nutritionally, the ingredients
Speaker 1: milk solids, glucose solids, cocoa seventeen percent, still vegetable oil
Speaker 1: which is a coconut. Again, to get the consistency that
Speaker 1: they're looking for mineral salts vegetable gum. And the reason
Speaker 1: that what I would say on the Nutrition Couch podcast
Speaker 1: is probably I wouldn't generally recommend it. It does contain an
Speaker 1: artificial sweetener, which is nine to five one, which is
Speaker 1: a sparta which has been around for many years and
Speaker 1: is in food, and generally I tell people to avoid
Speaker 1: artificial sweetness in where they can. So the question is
Speaker 1: I include it because I just think small amounts of
Speaker 1: anything at the end of the world. But it is
Speaker 1: incredibly sweet, and I would say you don't need the
Speaker 1: whole saturae. And I do mix mine with milk, so
Speaker 1: it does have a really nice with this one. It doesn't.
Speaker 1: I also finally, and the powder doesn't all mix anyway.
Speaker 1: If you use it. It's really got probably two good tablespoons,
Speaker 1: that's how it feels. It's only eleven point five grams,
Speaker 1: but it really is a lot of sort of powder,
Speaker 1: and I find it just doesn't mix in, especially if
Speaker 1: you've got any a small cup, so you really don't
Speaker 1: need it. And it's coming in it just over one
Speaker 1: ninety is that one ninety one ninety six kilosule? Yeah,
Speaker 1: one ninety six kilogels, So what's that about? Forty five
Speaker 1: calories per serve, just over a grammar protein, so a
Speaker 1: little bit coming through the milk. Solids are still a
Speaker 1: low fat product with less than one gram of SAT
Speaker 1: per hundred grams, so the carbohydrate load is six point
Speaker 1: nine grams and four point one grams of sugars, so
Speaker 1: just shy of a teaspoon of sugar if you use
Speaker 1: the whole sachet, which for me is still relatively insignificant. No,
Speaker 1: not much. A little bit of sodium actually one fifty four,
Speaker 1: which isn't insignificant I guess for a drink like this,
Speaker 1: but very little dietary fiber. So it's one of those
Speaker 1: foods to me. It doesn't have very much in it
Speaker 1: if you have half of it. It's a sweet thing
Speaker 1: if you're getting a lot of flavor, because I think
Speaker 1: lea and the reason I like it is, you know
Speaker 1: how when you're trying to give yourself a treat or
Speaker 1: something sweet, if you try and have something that's kind
Speaker 1: of healthier, it often doesn't satisfy you, so you keep
Speaker 1: looking for stuff anyway. So if you have a hot
Speaker 1: chocolate that's not overly nice and you think, oh, I've
Speaker 1: had it, but it didn't really satisfy me. I find myself,
Speaker 1: and even with clients, they'll keep looking for stuff anyway,
Speaker 1: whereas myself, I find that flavor profile and texture they've
Speaker 1: achieved with Jara is a really nice mouthfeel, So when
Speaker 1: you have it, you feel really satisfied. So it's not
Speaker 1: like you need to keep going and eating sweet food.
Speaker 1: And that's why I personally like it, and I also
Speaker 1: recommend it to my clients because they really find it satisfying.
Speaker 1: And there is quite a few flavors and so if
Speaker 1: you like caramel or whatever your mint, you know they
Speaker 1: all fit into that kind of flavor profile. So for me,
Speaker 1: the benefits outweigh the negative. So it means a client's
Speaker 1: not going to eat a block of chocolate or two
Speaker 1: chocolate biskirts. They've had an enjoyable treat that's got less
Speaker 1: than five grams of sugars and a little bit of
Speaker 1: a spataime. I'm pretty happy. But I would get I
Speaker 1: get that purists would be listening thinking, no, it's got
Speaker 1: artificial sweetener. I don't want it. And that's where it
Speaker 1: really comes down to what you're comfortable eating and recommending,
Speaker 1: and with my clients, I say to them, look, if
Speaker 1: you go to the hot chocolate section, there is a
Speaker 1: whole range of hot chocolate drinks out there that come
Speaker 1: in at less than one hundred calories. You take your pick.
Speaker 1: So if you prefer the Naked Life one, or if
Speaker 1: there's a different one you prefer, go for it. This
Speaker 1: is a good one. I like it, but everyone's different,
Speaker 1: and I've certainly have got clients who you know, we've
Speaker 1: had Avalanche on the program before. There's also Avalanche ones
Speaker 1: which have a whole range. Now that's not my personal preference,
Speaker 1: but I have a whole lot of clients who love it.
Speaker 1: So I think for me in this category, there are
Speaker 1: certainly options. And if it means that you're not binge
Speaker 1: eating on chocolate blocks and chocolate biscuits and the like,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty happy.
Speaker 2: And I think even my clients, some of them tend
Speaker 2: to make their own at home, so they just use
Speaker 2: like a tea spoin or two of Coroco powder, hot water,
Speaker 2: put a little bit of stevy in it, and some
Speaker 2: of them even add a little bit of like chocolate
Speaker 2: flavored protein powder. That's not my jam. It's not something
Speaker 2: I do, but it's something that they really really enjoy it,
Speaker 2: you know, in winter. So there are creative options that
Speaker 2: you can do at home, and that's probably a lot
Speaker 2: more affordable making yourself as well. But I agree with
Speaker 2: you here, like we're not promoting artificial sweetness, but if
Speaker 2: you look at the ingredient list, the artificial sweetness right
Speaker 2: down the bottom. So the amount of that you're getting
Speaker 2: is very minimal compared to the previous product where the
Speaker 2: sweetener was the very first ingredient. This is a very
Speaker 2: last ingredient here. And if you're doing what Susie does
Speaker 2: and you're using only half the sachet, you're actually getting
Speaker 2: just a really really small amount. Of course, we're not
Speaker 2: recommending artificial sweetness. We're not saying, yeah, have them, they're fine,
Speaker 2: but it's a very small amount in the grand scheme
Speaker 2: of things. And same with the sugar. People think, oh, chokho,
Speaker 2: it's got four grams of sugar per serving. It's a
Speaker 2: hot chocolate, Like what do people expect? So again I
Speaker 2: think that's a very small amount of sugar compared to
Speaker 2: if you would go to go into your local cafe
Speaker 2: and you got the normal hot chocolate with the marshmallows
Speaker 2: added in would be no matter what, ZUZI probably well
Speaker 2: over twenty grams of sugar easily.
Speaker 1: Oh at least I think high, because let's be honest,
Speaker 1: people don't are small. They get a medium and at
Speaker 1: least twenty, you know, four or five tea spoons. When
Speaker 1: I see a hot chocolate or a food diary almost
Speaker 1: have a coronary because it's just such a it's your
Speaker 1: entire recommended daily intake. Added sugars in a drink, so
Speaker 1: certainly not a better option. So yeah, I think it's
Speaker 1: good to talk about that a little bit because if
Speaker 1: people are to your coffee drinkers, they're often ordering a
Speaker 1: cheicy hot chocolate at the coffee chop, and let's not
Speaker 1: pretend for a second it's remotely healthy. And then what
Speaker 1: we did, Leanne, we threw in a random.
Speaker 2: It's a popular, very popular random matter?
Speaker 1: Is it popular? Oh?
Speaker 2: Sarbucks is an internationally recognized brand. It's very popular. I've
Speaker 2: had a few clients of asking what I thought, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, just take one look at the ingredient list.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we picked the Starbucks signature salted caramel, which
Speaker 1: is nice. Isn't a hot chocolate, so this is a
Speaker 1: ten pac seven sixty. So in between the first naked
Speaker 1: product and what you pay person for the jarrot about
Speaker 1: seventy six cents. So if this is basically a full
Speaker 1: strength hot chocolate, so first ingredient's chocolate powder at ninety
Speaker 1: eight percent, followed by which is sugar, so the first
Speaker 1: grade is really sugar, cocoa powder which is forty two percent,
Speaker 1: a mulsifier to mix it in some flavor, salt, cocoa solids,
Speaker 1: cocoa butter, but no sweetness. So if we look per serve,
Speaker 1: it's twenty two grams serve. It's a sachet as well,
Speaker 1: almost one hundred cow, so about eighty six cowper serve,
Speaker 1: so sort of slightly more, but I actually think not
Speaker 1: that much more for what you're getting one point eight
Speaker 1: grams of protein two point two grams of fat, so
Speaker 1: it's not a low fat product. It's coming into almost
Speaker 1: ten percent fat thanks to that proportion of cocoa butter,
Speaker 1: and relatively high and saturated fat overall, but not per
Speaker 1: serve because the serve is quite small. Thirteen point six
Speaker 1: grams of carbohydrate and twelve point five grams of sugar,
Speaker 1: so that's almost three teaspoons of sugar in that serve,
Speaker 1: So indeed, if you again halved it, and I haven't
Speaker 1: tried it, so I don't know how what the flavor's like,
Speaker 1: but if you halved it, you're getting sort of almost
Speaker 1: two teaspoons, so it's more durable. Getting two point six
Speaker 1: grams of fiber, which is a bit roundom again in
Speaker 1: a hot chocolate, I don't know where that's coming from,
Speaker 1: and low sodium. So the position I sit here earlier.
Speaker 1: It's a bit controversial, is that, because they've also listed
Speaker 1: if you have it with milk, so it's quite a
Speaker 1: substantial snack. But if you're someone who is not is
Speaker 1: pretty healthy, you don't have a lot of added sugar
Speaker 1: in your diet, so you don't have much packaged stack food,
Speaker 1: you don't add things like honey and fruit juices to
Speaker 1: your diet, and you really enjoy a good hot chocolate
Speaker 1: drink and don't want to use sweetness. You're really looking
Speaker 1: for the flavor. This is a good product. It's less
Speaker 1: still than one hundred calories. Yes, it's got proportionally quite
Speaker 1: a high amount of sugar, but in the diet of
Speaker 1: someone who's pretty healthy overall, who would prefer an unsweet
Speaker 1: natural product. I don't know. I'm not giving it, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not writing it off completely, so I think it's
Speaker 1: got some positives there as well. Now I haven't tried it,
Speaker 1: but I assume it tastes pretty good if you had
Speaker 1: a golf one.
Speaker 2: I haven't tried it, but Starbucks is you know, I've
Speaker 2: always had good coffees and stuff from Starbucks, So I
Speaker 2: would assume that, you know, they're known for good quality products.
Speaker 2: You know, they're not knowing for sloppy sloppy products. So
Speaker 2: I would assume highly assume that it's a pretty good product,
Speaker 2: and I would say it tastes nice. So I think
Speaker 2: it's like anything in life. If you are really struggling
Speaker 2: to cut back on your sugar intake and your calories,
Speaker 2: probably the lower the sweet and varieties are better for you.
Speaker 2: But I'm thinking of a couple of my clients who
Speaker 2: are pretty healthy clients. They're very active, they do a
Speaker 2: lot of exercise.
Speaker 1: They're following largely a plant based diet, so they're not
Speaker 1: getting much saturated fat from meat and dairy in their diets.
Speaker 1: And if this was their hot chocolate of choice and
Speaker 1: for less than a hundred calories. I would absolutely give
Speaker 1: it the thumbs up for any of my insulin resistant
Speaker 1: clients with glucose regulation, I would not just simply based
Speaker 1: on the carbohydrate load of that drink, but for other
Speaker 1: active people. For kids, certainly, it would be my preference
Speaker 1: to give kids that product over the sweetened products if
Speaker 1: I'm honest. So you know, it's perhaps got a place
Speaker 1: in the pantry, and particularly if you like it it
Speaker 1: tastes good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's definitely, you know, some people who
Speaker 2: would suit. And you know, it's pretty amazing when you
Speaker 2: look at the ingredient and listening go twelve and a
Speaker 2: half grand sugar.
Speaker 1: Oh, there's a lot of sugar.
Speaker 2: But then, as you said, it's a low calorie product.
Speaker 2: It's only eighty six calories, so you're just going to
Speaker 2: be aware of that if you are having something like that.
Speaker 2: Obviously it's a hot chocolate, it's going to have some
Speaker 2: sort of sugar in there. This is slightly higher, but
Speaker 2: you're right, if the rest of the diet is pretty clean,
Speaker 2: it's pretty good. You're not snacking on muffins and biscuits
Speaker 2: and you're not having lots of chocolate after dinner. Then
Speaker 2: I don't really see a problem with it either. And
Speaker 2: you know the trolls are going to come after us
Speaker 2: as saying this, but I really think it is all
Speaker 2: about balance and you really got to take a step
Speaker 2: back and look at your diet overall, and if you
Speaker 2: are having a lot of added sugars in other places,
Speaker 2: this is absolutely not the product for you, despite being
Speaker 2: a low calorie product.
Speaker 1: True, and I think if we were comparing it to
Speaker 1: something like Milo, the difference there for me is that
Speaker 1: Milo is fortified with a number of other nutrients, particularly
Speaker 1: for kids, so you're getting things like calcium and some
Speaker 1: vitamin D in some varieties, whereas you're not getting that
Speaker 1: from the Starbucks product, but purely for a convenient product
Speaker 1: that you're just adding. And it's portion control because let's
Speaker 1: be honestly, and if people have hot chocolates that are
Speaker 1: not portion control ovaltine or milow, you're getting heaps to
Speaker 1: sugar because not doing two small tea spoons, you're doing
Speaker 1: you know, bucket loads. Like let's all be honest, we
Speaker 1: all ate milow with a spoon when we were kids
Speaker 1: growing up. Absolutely, so people don't portion control when it's
Speaker 1: in those massive serves. So the benefit of the Starbucks
Speaker 1: is that it's still sachet for kids. But if I
Speaker 1: had teenagers or my boys and they wanted a warm
Speaker 1: drink and you had it with milk, it's actually a
Speaker 1: very nutritious then snack. Yes, relatively high in sugar, but
Speaker 1: in a low sugar diet or for very high energy demands,
Speaker 1: or for active growing teenagers. It's so certainly a product
Speaker 1: that I could include in their diet, particularly you know,
Speaker 1: if they're keen to stay away from sort of sweetness,
Speaker 1: or don't even like the flavor of sweetness, which is
Speaker 1: certainly some people they prefer to have the natural taste
Speaker 1: through their mouth. So yeah, it's actually quite interesting. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have thought I would give it that summation, but
Speaker 1: it's not. I wouldn't. I wouldn't have it myself. It's
Speaker 1: a small female. Then a lot of my clients it's
Speaker 1: too high sugar for them. But you know, there's certainly
Speaker 1: people that it could be for the low calorie extra
Speaker 1: hundred colored day, it's not going to be the end
Speaker 1: of the world.
Speaker 2: And speaking of kids, I would for the majority of kids,
Speaker 2: depending on the age, if they're teenager, is fine but
Speaker 2: if they're children, you know, we're talking under twelve, I
Speaker 2: would definitely be splitting that sashe up and only giving
Speaker 2: them half a sachet, with some milkie getting the added coucium,
Speaker 2: getting a little bit of protein in that it's a
Speaker 2: little bit more filling. But I really don't think children
Speaker 2: would need an entire sashet, so that probably, you know,
Speaker 2: helps settle the debate as well. That way, we're only
Speaker 2: down to about six grams of added sugar per serving,
Speaker 2: which I think is a lot more acceptable for sort
Speaker 2: of children.
Speaker 1: And let's be honestly, and a lot more cost effective
Speaker 1: at this time when every I don't know where they're
Speaker 1: talking about six percent inflation. As I've said before, every
Speaker 1: item might see all the store is like up a dollar.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's not six percent. But that's a topic for
Speaker 1: another another episode. Well, that does bring us to the
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