1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Ossies love our winter warming favorites a good old hot chocolate, 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: particularly when the temperatures are a bit chili Leand I 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: know it's not always the healthiest of options, and there 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: are plenty different varieties of the supermarket. So today we're 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: going to go through a range of the hot chocolate 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: sachets that are available at the supermarkets, which are pretty 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: affordable compared to coffee shop style hot chocolates. And then 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: you could argue even more nutritious than a regular hot 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: chocolate with marshmallows at the local cafe. Hi, I'm Puzzi 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: Burrows and Amile and Wood. And as two of us 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: jay Is leading dieticians who specialize in evidence based nutrition, 12 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: we bring you the Nutrition Couch Product Review, a weekly 13 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: chat on new products and old favorites that you can 14 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: find in the supermarket. Dan, I have never heard you 15 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: have a hot chocolate when we've been together. Do you 16 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: have a sneaky little hot drink after you dinner? Oh? 17 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 2: I do, but I normally have a cup of decaf tea. 18 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I love chocolate in isolation. I love a 19 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: hot drink in isolation, but I'm not a hot chocolate 20 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,959 Speaker 2: hot drink kind. Of girl like I would rarely help 21 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: one of it was the only thing offer and I 22 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: was out and about and it was freezing cold. I would, 23 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 2: but I just find it too overly sweet. Like don't 24 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: get me wrong, I'm not a purist. I like sweet things. 25 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: I like sugar, but I just find hot chocolates a 26 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 2: little bit too much for me. And I must admit 27 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: the first product that we're doing as a review today, 28 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: I did try. I used half a sashet only of 29 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 2: the you know, the sashet amount, and honestly I found 30 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 2: that too much as well. And I gave it to 31 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: David and he was like, oh, what is this. So 32 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: we're not We're not hot chocolate. People put it that way, 33 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: but we do love our coffee and we do love 34 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: our chocolate. But separately, well. 35 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: I have to be honest, I've got a bit of 36 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: a confession here on the Nutrition couch. I do drink these, 37 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: and in particular, the one I drink is not one 38 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: of the best ones. I've just realized I should have 39 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 1: been more across it, and I'll explain why in a second. 40 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: So I do like it, but I do don't. I 41 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: don't use the whole sashet as well, not because I'm cheap, 42 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: but I am pretty cheap anyway, but I just don't 43 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: need it. I just find it so intensely sweet. And 44 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: that's actually a really good lesson for people listening. But 45 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: if you find you do have a bit of a 46 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: what we would call addiction to sweet food, so you're 47 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: on the diet soft drinks and you sort of really 48 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: crave a lot of that intensely sweet product, simply weeding 49 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: off over time and gradually reducing the amounts, you know, 50 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: rather than having the whole count of coke, only drink 51 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: three quarters, or in the case of these hot chocolate drinks, 52 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: don't use the whole sashet, and you'll be surprised. You 53 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: really can wean your taste buds off those very intense flavors, 54 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: and particularly if they're artificials at least sweetened, which is 55 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: the one that I actually have is. But we've got 56 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: three good ones. There's certainly plenty and growing numbers in 57 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: the supermarket. And the one that took my eye a 58 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: few weeks to go and I sent it too straight 59 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: away was this new range coming out from Naked Life, 60 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: and they are quite savvy in their marketing because they 61 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: position it as kind of calming, and there's a few 62 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: different ones. I think there's one for energy and a 63 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: few different kind of buzzwords that you often see on 64 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: vitamin waters or energy drinks. And so we've got today 65 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: the Naked Lives ninety nine percent sugar free calm drinking chocolate. 66 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: Now it's a six pack at four fifty. They usually 67 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 1: retail at seven fifty. So this was something I just 68 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: had a quick look at. I think Bulli's I was at. 69 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: But that's not insignificant. You know, seven dollars fifty. It's 70 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: more than a dollar a sashet. Admittedly a lot cheaper 71 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: than a chocolate hot chocolate you bite the cafe, which 72 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: is sort of three four five dollars and at least 73 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: twenty grams of sugar, let's be honest. But yeah, not 74 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: insignificant in the budget spend. Certainly, if you're saving three 75 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: dollars on the packet of six year, it's worth stocking 76 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: up if you do like them. The ingredients that are interesting, 77 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: it's really focusing on the natural aspect. The first ingredient 78 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: is the natural sweetness erythrotol and stevia, so erythritol is 79 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: an alcohol sugar that is undigested through the system and 80 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: very sweet. And then of course stevia we know it's 81 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: a plant. Coco powder is seventeen percent, got a little 82 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: bit of glucose syrup, some hydrogenated coconut, weel, some stabilizers 83 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: and mulsifiers, natural flavors, corn fiber extracts, but hastened to sale, 84 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: and those things are very very small amounts basically to 85 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: create the consistency and texture of a hot chocolate drink 86 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: with very little else in it, because when we take 87 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: a closer look at the calories are very low, you know, 88 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: coming at the thirty four calper serve and less than 89 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: one grams of sugar, So that straightaway tells us that 90 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: these are additives that are in there, are in tiny, 91 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: tiny amounts. But of course what they do market on 92 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: is a few of these little natural additions. So there 93 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: is some lemon in there. There's some magnesium sulfate salt 94 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: as well, so linking the calm benefits to the addition 95 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: of some magnesium, and certainly anecdotally we hear a lot 96 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: of people talking about magnesium, which we'll move on to 97 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: in a sec but you know, very smaller. There's seventeen 98 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: gram serve. You're getting thirty four calories, just over one 99 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: hundred and forty four kilodols, minimal protein, a little bit 100 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: of fat, you know, it's still low fat product one 101 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: point six grams thinking where that's coming from, a little 102 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: bit of that coconut oil in there again for that 103 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: consistency and texture. Three point four grams of total carbohydrate, 104 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: less than one gram of sugar, very little sodium, a 105 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: little bit of dietary fiber, which is a bit random 106 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: at one point three grams. You wouldn't normally see that 107 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: fiber in a hot drink, coming from the corn fiber. 108 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: And then not any calcium. There's no dairy in there, 109 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: but an eighteen milligram serve of magnesium, which is from 110 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: what I can see, six percent of the recommended daily intake. Now, 111 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: So I think when it comes to these really low 112 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: coale foods, usually for clients, if it's less than one 113 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: hundred kilodors per seve, I don't pay a whole lot 114 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: of attention. This is slightly higher. What I like about 115 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: it is it's a natural sweetener. Would I be buying 116 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: it for magnesium? No, I'm not a massive fan of 117 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: magnesium supplementation. I find it can cause a lot of 118 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,119 Speaker 1: gastric distress. And I find that if people are eating 119 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: nut seeds and whole grains and even good quality Duckt chocolate, 120 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: they're getting more than enough magnesium from those natural sources. 121 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: So I certainly wouldn't be recommending my clients buy this 122 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: for the magnesium benefit. But there's certainly nothing wrong with 123 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: this product, and certainly it's a natural variety. Oh, you 124 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: said it was very sweet when you tasted it, very sweeten. 125 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: I used to have a sashe Yeah, because the top 126 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: ingredient are a erythrotol and stevia. The natural sweetness is 127 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 2: the top ingredient, not coco. 128 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: And that you know, the cocoa would give it a 129 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: more bitter flavor. So I you know, if I've got 130 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: a client who likes these drinks, So for example, if 131 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: you wanted to go naturally you were happy to spend 132 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: the money on this, I would also suggest my clients 133 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: at it and enjoy it with some milk. So hot 134 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: water and milk almost in a milo like consistency, so 135 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: you're still getting some dairy and calcium, and that would 136 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: then dilute some of that intense sweetness, So certainly it's 137 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: a product I would use. I haven't recommended it, and 138 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: I certainly wouldn't be based on the fact that there's 139 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: a calm effect, but as a locale sweet addition at 140 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: night that certainly you could add some dairy or fortified 141 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: soy or almond milk to it. It could be quite 142 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: a nutritious locale addition to your day. I don't really 143 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: have any massive issue with it. I think with people 144 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: who perhaps are sensitive to tummy distress, you do have 145 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: to be careful with supplemented magnesium. Admittedly in a whole 146 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: food it's not going to have a dumping effect the 147 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: way it can when people really concentrate up the powders 148 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: in a concentrated supplement form. But yeah, for me, i'd 149 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: give it like four out of five. I think it's 150 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: really pretty good, and probably the only thing that would 151 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: hold me back recommending it would be the price. It's 152 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: not inexpensive for sort of something that doesn't have a 153 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: lot of calories or nutrition in it, but certainly a 154 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: million times better than straw bought hot chocolates and some 155 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: of the ones that we're going to look at in 156 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: a sec that you can also find in supermarket. 157 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: And I do think it's important to note was like 158 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 2: a I would say, like a medical claim on the 159 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 2: side of the packet, so it basically says I only 160 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 2: recommended maximum one per day, not suitable for children, not 161 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: suitable for anybody under fifteen years of age, and not 162 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: suitable for pregnant women, and should only be used under 163 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: medical or dietetic supervision. So I mean, that's probably something 164 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: they're protecting themselves from sort of a legal perspective, but 165 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: I just think that that's something to be aware of. 166 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: So we wouldn't be giving this to our kids. We 167 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 2: wouldn't be having this if we were a pregnant person. 168 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: I think, just because it is considered a supplementary food 169 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: with the addition of things like magnism in there, even 170 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: though it is in a really small amount. But I 171 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: must have been Susia. I didn't feel any more zen 172 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 2: or sleepy or calm after I had this. If anything, 173 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: I probably felt the opposite of calm because I was like, oh, 174 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: that's so sweet. 175 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. And I think it's interesting it's this 176 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,559 Speaker 1: kind of food groups where people are really tapping into 177 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: people's sensitive issues. Like, you know, they need to sleep 178 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: or relax or have more energy. So there's a little 179 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: bit of health halo. I think associated with those buzzwords 180 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: not harmful. I wouldn't have any real concern over it. 181 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: But I don't think just having that hot chocolate rink 182 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: is going to make you any more calm. It did 183 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: the opposite time you would if you had a handful 184 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: of nuts before you went to bed, yeah, or did 185 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: some meditation exactly. You know, if you enjoy it, it's more. 186 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's not a cheap product. And so with clients, 187 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: I'm always mindful of not recommending foods that are incredibly expensive. 188 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: But certainly, then if people are using that at work 189 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: over going out and buying at an expensive hot chocolate 190 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: that's packed full of sugar, I would be very much 191 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: prefer them to be having something like this then going 192 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: down to the cafe and getting you know, let's be honest, 193 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: at least twenty, if not thirty grams of sugar and 194 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: a hot chocolate that you typically get from cafes. So 195 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: certainly in that example, I would be preferring this variety. 196 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: And they're worth checking out there in the supermarkets, And 197 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: I would say we'll see more and more from this brand. 198 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 2: And also with that, with a cafe option as well, 199 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 2: you typically get the marshmallows as well, which you can 200 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,599 Speaker 2: actually say no to. Marshmallow is right. So when you 201 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 2: look at the price point, it is actually a lot 202 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 2: cheaper compared to a cafe coffee. But compared to the 203 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: rest of the other hot chocolates available in sachets that 204 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 2: you can make yourself at home, it is are It 205 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: is a higher price point, not really paying for much 206 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 2: more because I think that calming effect is more sort 207 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 2: of a buzzword or a health halo as such, so 208 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: I recommend it as well. So I think it's a 209 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: pretty good option. But we've got two more to share 210 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: with our listeners today, don't we. 211 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: But we do, and so I have to. This is 212 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: the confession time. This is the one that I buy Dodgy. 213 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 2: This is one I recommend my clients as well until 214 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: we saw that first wife, and it has been the 215 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 2: standout in it has been the standout in the hot 216 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: chocolate sachets in the supermarket. I must admit I have 217 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 2: recommended this for many years. 218 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: I like the taste of it, I always have, and 219 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: I don't drink it in summer. I only have it 220 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 1: in winter, but it is my favorite. Now it's the 221 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: Jarra Classic Hot chocolates. Now there's lots of different Jarras. 222 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: There's caramel and all different flavors. I only myself ever 223 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: buy the plain one, just because I like it. And 224 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: we're comparing that now, and it is ten pack is 225 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: six dollars. Now that's got up again. I remember where 226 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: it used to be four four fifty. So in recent 227 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: weeks as we've seen huge amounts of inflation with all 228 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: packaged foods in general. So it's so, how much is 229 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: that perserve? It's just sick. This is sixty cents per 230 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: serve versus how much was the other one? 231 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 2: It was over a dollar because yeah, normally retails with 232 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 2: seven fifty for six, so it's almost half. 233 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: And if you get them on sale, as I try to, 234 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: they're sort of four four fifty. And as I said, 235 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: there's quite the trick in using only half because you 236 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: make it go a lot longer. So nutritionally, the ingredients 237 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: milk solids, glucose solids, cocoa seventeen percent, still vegetable oil 238 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: which is a coconut. Again, to get the consistency that 239 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: they're looking for mineral salts vegetable gum. And the reason 240 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: that what I would say on the Nutrition Couch podcast 241 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: is probably I wouldn't generally recommend it. It does contain an 242 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: artificial sweetener, which is nine to five one, which is 243 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: a sparta which has been around for many years and 244 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: is in food, and generally I tell people to avoid 245 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: artificial sweetness in where they can. So the question is 246 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: I include it because I just think small amounts of 247 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: anything at the end of the world. But it is 248 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: incredibly sweet, and I would say you don't need the 249 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: whole saturae. And I do mix mine with milk, so 250 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: it does have a really nice with this one. It doesn't. 251 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: I also finally, and the powder doesn't all mix anyway. 252 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,599 Speaker 1: If you use it. It's really got probably two good tablespoons, 253 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: that's how it feels. It's only eleven point five grams, 254 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: but it really is a lot of sort of powder, 255 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: and I find it just doesn't mix in, especially if 256 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: you've got any a small cup, so you really don't 257 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: need it. And it's coming in it just over one 258 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: ninety is that one ninety one ninety six kilosule? Yeah, 259 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: one ninety six kilogels, So what's that about? Forty five 260 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: calories per serve, just over a grammar protein, so a 261 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: little bit coming through the milk. Solids are still a 262 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: low fat product with less than one gram of SAT 263 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: per hundred grams, so the carbohydrate load is six point 264 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: nine grams and four point one grams of sugars, so 265 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: just shy of a teaspoon of sugar if you use 266 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: the whole sachet, which for me is still relatively insignificant. No, 267 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: not much. A little bit of sodium actually one fifty four, 268 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: which isn't insignificant I guess for a drink like this, 269 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: but very little dietary fiber. So it's one of those 270 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: foods to me. It doesn't have very much in it 271 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: if you have half of it. It's a sweet thing 272 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: if you're getting a lot of flavor, because I think 273 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: lea and the reason I like it is, you know 274 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: how when you're trying to give yourself a treat or 275 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 1: something sweet, if you try and have something that's kind 276 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: of healthier, it often doesn't satisfy you, so you keep 277 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: looking for stuff anyway. So if you have a hot 278 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: chocolate that's not overly nice and you think, oh, I've 279 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: had it, but it didn't really satisfy me. I find myself, 280 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: and even with clients, they'll keep looking for stuff anyway, 281 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: whereas myself, I find that flavor profile and texture they've 282 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: achieved with Jara is a really nice mouthfeel, So when 283 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: you have it, you feel really satisfied. So it's not 284 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: like you need to keep going and eating sweet food. 285 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: And that's why I personally like it, and I also 286 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,239 Speaker 1: recommend it to my clients because they really find it satisfying. 287 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: And there is quite a few flavors and so if 288 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: you like caramel or whatever your mint, you know they 289 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: all fit into that kind of flavor profile. So for me, 290 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: the benefits outweigh the negative. So it means a client's 291 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: not going to eat a block of chocolate or two 292 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: chocolate biskirts. They've had an enjoyable treat that's got less 293 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: than five grams of sugars and a little bit of 294 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: a spataime. I'm pretty happy. But I would get I 295 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: get that purists would be listening thinking, no, it's got 296 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: artificial sweetener. I don't want it. And that's where it 297 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: really comes down to what you're comfortable eating and recommending, 298 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: and with my clients, I say to them, look, if 299 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: you go to the hot chocolate section, there is a 300 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: whole range of hot chocolate drinks out there that come 301 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: in at less than one hundred calories. You take your pick. 302 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: So if you prefer the Naked Life one, or if 303 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: there's a different one you prefer, go for it. This 304 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: is a good one. I like it, but everyone's different, 305 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: and I've certainly have got clients who you know, we've 306 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: had Avalanche on the program before. There's also Avalanche ones 307 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: which have a whole range. Now that's not my personal preference, 308 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: but I have a whole lot of clients who love it. 309 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: So I think for me in this category, there are 310 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: certainly options. And if it means that you're not binge 311 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: eating on chocolate blocks and chocolate biscuits and the like, 312 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: I'm pretty happy. 313 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: And I think even my clients, some of them tend 314 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: to make their own at home, so they just use 315 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 2: like a tea spoin or two of Coroco powder, hot water, 316 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 2: put a little bit of stevy in it, and some 317 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 2: of them even add a little bit of like chocolate 318 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: flavored protein powder. That's not my jam. It's not something 319 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: I do, but it's something that they really really enjoy it, 320 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: you know, in winter. So there are creative options that 321 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: you can do at home, and that's probably a lot 322 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 2: more affordable making yourself as well. But I agree with 323 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: you here, like we're not promoting artificial sweetness, but if 324 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: you look at the ingredient list, the artificial sweetness right 325 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: down the bottom. So the amount of that you're getting 326 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: is very minimal compared to the previous product where the 327 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: sweetener was the very first ingredient. This is a very 328 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 2: last ingredient here. And if you're doing what Susie does 329 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 2: and you're using only half the sachet, you're actually getting 330 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: just a really really small amount. Of course, we're not 331 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 2: recommending artificial sweetness. We're not saying, yeah, have them, they're fine, 332 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: but it's a very small amount in the grand scheme 333 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: of things. And same with the sugar. People think, oh, chokho, 334 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 2: it's got four grams of sugar per serving. It's a 335 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: hot chocolate, Like what do people expect? So again I 336 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 2: think that's a very small amount of sugar compared to 337 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: if you would go to go into your local cafe 338 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: and you got the normal hot chocolate with the marshmallows 339 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: added in would be no matter what, ZUZI probably well 340 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 2: over twenty grams of sugar easily. 341 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: Oh at least I think high, because let's be honest, 342 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: people don't are small. They get a medium and at 343 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: least twenty, you know, four or five tea spoons. When 344 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: I see a hot chocolate or a food diary almost 345 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: have a coronary because it's just such a it's your 346 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: entire recommended daily intake. Added sugars in a drink, so 347 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: certainly not a better option. So yeah, I think it's 348 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: good to talk about that a little bit because if 349 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: people are to your coffee drinkers, they're often ordering a 350 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: cheicy hot chocolate at the coffee chop, and let's not 351 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: pretend for a second it's remotely healthy. And then what 352 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: we did, Leanne, we threw in a random. 353 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: It's a popular, very popular random matter? 354 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: Is it popular? Oh? 355 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 2: Sarbucks is an internationally recognized brand. It's very popular. I've 356 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 2: had a few clients of asking what I thought, and 357 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, just take one look at the ingredient list. 358 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: Okay, so we picked the Starbucks signature salted caramel, which 359 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: is nice. Isn't a hot chocolate, so this is a 360 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: ten pac seven sixty. So in between the first naked 361 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: product and what you pay person for the jarrot about 362 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: seventy six cents. So if this is basically a full 363 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: strength hot chocolate, so first ingredient's chocolate powder at ninety 364 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: eight percent, followed by which is sugar, so the first 365 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: grade is really sugar, cocoa powder which is forty two percent, 366 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: a mulsifier to mix it in some flavor, salt, cocoa solids, 367 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: cocoa butter, but no sweetness. So if we look per serve, 368 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: it's twenty two grams serve. It's a sachet as well, 369 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: almost one hundred cow, so about eighty six cowper serve, 370 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: so sort of slightly more, but I actually think not 371 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: that much more for what you're getting one point eight 372 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: grams of protein two point two grams of fat, so 373 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: it's not a low fat product. It's coming into almost 374 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: ten percent fat thanks to that proportion of cocoa butter, 375 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: and relatively high and saturated fat overall, but not per 376 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: serve because the serve is quite small. Thirteen point six 377 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: grams of carbohydrate and twelve point five grams of sugar, 378 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: so that's almost three teaspoons of sugar in that serve, 379 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: So indeed, if you again halved it, and I haven't 380 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: tried it, so I don't know how what the flavor's like, 381 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: but if you halved it, you're getting sort of almost 382 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: two teaspoons, so it's more durable. Getting two point six 383 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: grams of fiber, which is a bit roundom again in 384 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: a hot chocolate, I don't know where that's coming from, 385 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: and low sodium. So the position I sit here earlier. 386 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: It's a bit controversial, is that, because they've also listed 387 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: if you have it with milk, so it's quite a 388 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: substantial snack. But if you're someone who is not is 389 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: pretty healthy, you don't have a lot of added sugar 390 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: in your diet, so you don't have much packaged stack food, 391 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: you don't add things like honey and fruit juices to 392 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: your diet, and you really enjoy a good hot chocolate 393 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: drink and don't want to use sweetness. You're really looking 394 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: for the flavor. This is a good product. It's less 395 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: still than one hundred calories. Yes, it's got proportionally quite 396 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: a high amount of sugar, but in the diet of 397 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: someone who's pretty healthy overall, who would prefer an unsweet 398 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,239 Speaker 1: natural product. I don't know. I'm not giving it, you know, 399 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: I'm not writing it off completely, so I think it's 400 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 1: got some positives there as well. Now I haven't tried it, 401 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: but I assume it tastes pretty good if you had 402 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: a golf one. 403 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 2: I haven't tried it, but Starbucks is you know, I've 404 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 2: always had good coffees and stuff from Starbucks, So I 405 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 2: would assume that, you know, they're known for good quality products. 406 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 2: You know, they're not knowing for sloppy sloppy products. So 407 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 2: I would assume highly assume that it's a pretty good product, 408 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 2: and I would say it tastes nice. So I think 409 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 2: it's like anything in life. If you are really struggling 410 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 2: to cut back on your sugar intake and your calories, 411 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: probably the lower the sweet and varieties are better for you. 412 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 2: But I'm thinking of a couple of my clients who 413 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 2: are pretty healthy clients. They're very active, they do a 414 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 2: lot of exercise. 415 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: They're following largely a plant based diet, so they're not 416 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: getting much saturated fat from meat and dairy in their diets. 417 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: And if this was their hot chocolate of choice and 418 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: for less than a hundred calories. I would absolutely give 419 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: it the thumbs up for any of my insulin resistant 420 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: clients with glucose regulation, I would not just simply based 421 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: on the carbohydrate load of that drink, but for other 422 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: active people. For kids, certainly, it would be my preference 423 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: to give kids that product over the sweetened products if 424 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: I'm honest. So you know, it's perhaps got a place 425 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: in the pantry, and particularly if you like it it 426 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: tastes good. 427 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's definitely, you know, some people who 428 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 2: would suit. And you know, it's pretty amazing when you 429 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: look at the ingredient and listening go twelve and a 430 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: half grand sugar. 431 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: Oh, there's a lot of sugar. 432 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: But then, as you said, it's a low calorie product. 433 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 2: It's only eighty six calories, so you're just going to 434 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 2: be aware of that if you are having something like that. 435 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: Obviously it's a hot chocolate, it's going to have some 436 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: sort of sugar in there. This is slightly higher, but 437 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 2: you're right, if the rest of the diet is pretty clean, 438 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 2: it's pretty good. You're not snacking on muffins and biscuits 439 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: and you're not having lots of chocolate after dinner. Then 440 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: I don't really see a problem with it either. And 441 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: you know the trolls are going to come after us 442 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 2: as saying this, but I really think it is all 443 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: about balance and you really got to take a step 444 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 2: back and look at your diet overall, and if you 445 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 2: are having a lot of added sugars in other places, 446 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 2: this is absolutely not the product for you, despite being 447 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: a low calorie product. 448 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: True, and I think if we were comparing it to 449 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: something like Milo, the difference there for me is that 450 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: Milo is fortified with a number of other nutrients, particularly 451 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: for kids, so you're getting things like calcium and some 452 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: vitamin D in some varieties, whereas you're not getting that 453 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 1: from the Starbucks product, but purely for a convenient product 454 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: that you're just adding. And it's portion control because let's 455 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: be honestly, and if people have hot chocolates that are 456 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: not portion control ovaltine or milow, you're getting heaps to 457 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: sugar because not doing two small tea spoons, you're doing 458 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: you know, bucket loads. Like let's all be honest, we 459 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: all ate milow with a spoon when we were kids 460 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: growing up. Absolutely, so people don't portion control when it's 461 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: in those massive serves. So the benefit of the Starbucks 462 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: is that it's still sachet for kids. But if I 463 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: had teenagers or my boys and they wanted a warm 464 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: drink and you had it with milk, it's actually a 465 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: very nutritious then snack. Yes, relatively high in sugar, but 466 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: in a low sugar diet or for very high energy demands, 467 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: or for active growing teenagers. It's so certainly a product 468 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: that I could include in their diet, particularly you know, 469 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: if they're keen to stay away from sort of sweetness, 470 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: or don't even like the flavor of sweetness, which is 471 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: certainly some people they prefer to have the natural taste 472 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: through their mouth. So yeah, it's actually quite interesting. I 473 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't have thought I would give it that summation, but 474 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: it's not. I wouldn't. I wouldn't have it myself. It's 475 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: a small female. Then a lot of my clients it's 476 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: too high sugar for them. But you know, there's certainly 477 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: people that it could be for the low calorie extra 478 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: hundred colored day, it's not going to be the end 479 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: of the world. 480 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 2: And speaking of kids, I would for the majority of kids, 481 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 2: depending on the age, if they're teenager, is fine but 482 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 2: if they're children, you know, we're talking under twelve, I 483 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 2: would definitely be splitting that sashe up and only giving 484 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 2: them half a sachet, with some milkie getting the added coucium, 485 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 2: getting a little bit of protein in that it's a 486 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 2: little bit more filling. But I really don't think children 487 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 2: would need an entire sashet, so that probably, you know, 488 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: helps settle the debate as well. That way, we're only 489 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 2: down to about six grams of added sugar per serving, 490 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 2: which I think is a lot more acceptable for sort 491 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 2: of children. 492 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: And let's be honestly, and a lot more cost effective 493 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: at this time when every I don't know where they're 494 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: talking about six percent inflation. As I've said before, every 495 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: item might see all the store is like up a dollar. 496 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: Yeah that's not six percent. But that's a topic for 497 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: another another episode. Well, that does bring us to the 498 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: end of the Nutrition Couch product review. For the latest 499 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: on Sashet hot chocolates, you haven't done so, please subscribe 500 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,959 Speaker 1: and share with your friends. We love to see images 501 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: of you listening to us, and we particularly love it 502 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: when you follow us and comment on social media. 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