1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Ossies love our winter warming favorites a good old hot chocolate, 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 1: particularly when the temperatures are a bit chili lead. I 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: know it's not always the healthiest of options, and there 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: are plenty different varieties of the supermarket. So today we're 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: going to go through a range of the hot chocolate 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: sachets that are available at the supermarkets, which are pretty 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: affordable compared to coffee shop style hot chocolates, And then 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: you could argue even more nutritious than a regular hot 9 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: chocolate with marshmallows at the local cafe. Hi, I'm Puzzi 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: Burrows and Ale and Wood And as two of us 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: Jays leading dieticians who specialize in evidence based nutrition, we 12 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: bring you the Nutrition Couch Product Review, a weekly chat 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: on new products and old favorites that you can find 14 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: in the supermarket. Dan, I have never heard you have 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: a hot chocolate when we've been together. Do you have 16 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: a sneaky little hot drink after you dinner? Oh? 17 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 2: I do, but I normally have a cup of decaf tea. 18 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I love chocolate in isolation. I love a 19 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: hot drink in isolation, but I'm not a hot chocolate 20 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: hot drink kind of girl. Like I would rarely have 21 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: one of it was the only thing offer and I 22 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: was out and about and it was freezing cold. I would, 23 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: but I just find it too overly sweet. Like don't 24 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: get me wrong, I'm not a purist. I like sweet things. 25 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: I like sugar, but I just find hot chocolate's a 26 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: little bit too much for me. And I must admit 27 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 2: the first product that we're doing as a review today, 28 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: I did try. I used half a sachet only of 29 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 2: the you know, the sashet amount, and honestly, I found 30 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 2: that too much as well. And I gave it to 31 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: David and he was like, oh, what is this. So 32 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: we're not We're not hot hot chocolate. People put it 33 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 2: that way, but we do love our coffee and we 34 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: do love our chocolate. 35 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: But separately, well, I have to be honest, I've got 36 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: a bit of a confession here on the Nutrition couch. 37 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: I do drink these, and in particular, the one I 38 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: drink is not one of the best ones. I've just 39 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: realized I should have been more across it, and I'll 40 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: explain why in a second. So I do like it, 41 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: but I do don't. I don't use the whole sashet 42 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: as well. Not because I'm cheap, but I am pretty 43 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: cheap anyway, but I just don't need it. I just 44 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: find it so intensely sweet. And that's actually a really 45 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: good lesson for people listening. But if you find you 46 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: do have a bit of a what we would call 47 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: addiction to sweet food, so you're on the diet soft 48 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: drinks and you sort of really crave a lot of 49 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: that intensely sweet product, simply weeding off over time and 50 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: gradually reducing the amounts, you know, rather than having the 51 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: whole count of coke, only drink three quarters, or in 52 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: the case of these hot chocolate drinks, don't use the 53 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: whole sashet and you'll be surprised. You really can wean 54 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: your taste buds off those very intense flavors, and particularly 55 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: if they're artificials at least sweetened, which is the one 56 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: that I actually have is but we've got three good ones. 57 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: There's certainly plenty and growing numbers in the supermarket. And 58 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: the one that took my eye a few weeks to 59 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: go and I sent it too straight away was this 60 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: new range coming out from Naked Life, and they are 61 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: quite savvy in their marketing because they position it as 62 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: kind of calming, and there's a few different ones. I 63 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: think there's one for energy and a few different kind 64 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: of buzzwords that you often see on vitamin waters or 65 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: energy drinks. And so we've got today the Naked Lives 66 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: ninety nine percent sugar free calm drinking chocolate. Now it's 67 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: a six pack at four fifty. They usually retail at 68 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: seven fifty. So this was something I just had a 69 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: quick look at. I think Bully's I was at. But 70 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: that's not insignificant, you know, seven dollars fifty. It's more 71 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: than a dollar a sashet. Admittedly a lot cheaper than 72 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: a chocolate hot chocolate bite the cafe, which is sort 73 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: of three four five dollars and at least twenty grams 74 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 1: of sugar, let's be honest. But yeah, not insignificant in 75 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: the budget spend. Certainly, if you're saving three dollars on 76 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: the packet of six year, it's worth stocking up if 77 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: you do like them. The ingredients that are interesting, it's 78 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: really focusing on the natural aspect. The first ingredient is 79 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: the natural sweetness erythrotol and stevia. So erythritol is an 80 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: alcohol sugar that is undigested through the system and very sweet, 81 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: and then of course stevia we know it's a plant. 82 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: Coco powder is seventeen percent, got a little bit of 83 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: glucose syrup, some hydrogenated coconut oil, some stabilizers and mulsifiers, 84 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: natural flavors, corn fiber extracts, but hastened to sally and 85 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: those things are very very small amounts basically to create 86 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: the consistency and texture of a hot chocolate drink with 87 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: very little else in it, because when we take a 88 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: closer look at the calories, they're very low, you know, 89 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: coming in at the thirty four klper serve and less 90 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: than one grams of sugar. So that straightaway tells us 91 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: that these are additives that are in there are in tiny, 92 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: tiny amounts. But of course what they do market on 93 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: is a few of these little natural additions. So there 94 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: is some lemon in there. There's some magnesium sulfate salt 95 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: as well, so linking the calm benefits to the addition 96 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: of some magnesium, and certainly anecdotally we hear a lot 97 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: of people talking about magnesium, which we'll move on to 98 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: in a sec but you know, very smaller there's seventeen 99 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: gram serve. You're getting thirty four calories, just over one 100 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: hundred and forty four kilogols, minimal protein, a little bit 101 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: of fat, you know, it's still low fat product one 102 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: point six grams thinking where that's coming from, a little 103 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: bit of that coconut oil in there again for that 104 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: consistency and texture. Three point four grams of total carbohydrate, 105 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: less than one gram of sugar, very little sodium, a 106 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: little bit of dietary fiber, which is a bit random 107 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: at one point three grams. You wouldn't normally see that 108 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: in a hot drink, coming from the corn fiber. And 109 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: then not any calcium. There's no dairy in there, but 110 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: an eighteen milligram serve of magnesium, which is from what 111 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: I can see, six percent of the recommended daily intake. 112 00:04:58,720 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: Now, you know. 113 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: So, I think when it comes to these really low 114 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: coale foods, usually for clients, if it's less than one 115 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: hundred killo jules per seve, I don't pay a whole 116 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: lot of attention. This is slightly higher. What I like 117 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: about it is it's a natural sweetener. Would I be 118 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: buying it for magnesium? No, I'm not a massive fan 119 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: of magnesium supplementation. I find it can cause a lot 120 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: of gastric distress. And I find that if people are 121 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: eating nut seeds and whole grains and even good quality 122 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: Dutch chocolate, they're getting more than enough magnesium from those 123 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: natural sources. So I certainly wouldn't be recommending my clients 124 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: buy this for the magnesium benefit. But there's certainly nothing 125 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: wrong with this product, and certainly it's a natural variety. Oh, 126 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: you said it was very sweet when you tasted it. 127 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: Very sweeten I used to have a sashe Yeah, because 128 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: the top ingredient are a erythrotol and stabia. The natural 129 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 2: sweetness is the top ingredient, not coco. 130 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: And that you know, the coca would give it a 131 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: more bitter flavor. So I you know, if I've got 132 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: a client who likes these drinks, So for example, if 133 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: you wanted to go naturally you were happy to spend 134 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: the money on this, I would also suggest my clients 135 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: at it and enjoy it with some milk, So hot 136 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: water and milk almost in a Milo like consistency, so 137 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: you're still getting some dairy and calcium, and that would 138 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: then dilute some of that intense sweetness, So certainly it's 139 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: a product I would use. I haven't recommended it, and 140 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: I certainly wouldn't be based on the fact that there's 141 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: a calm effect, but as a locale sweet addition at 142 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: night that certainly you could add some dairy or fortified 143 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: soy or almond milk to it. It could be quite 144 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: a nutritious locale addition to your day. I don't really 145 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 1: have any massive issue with it. I think with people 146 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: who perhaps are sensitive to tummy distress, you do have 147 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: to be careful with supplemented magnesium. Admittedly in a whole 148 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: food it's not going to have a dumping effect the 149 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: way it can when people really concentrate up the powders 150 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: in a concentrated supplement form. But yeah, for me, i'd 151 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: give it like four out of five. I think it's 152 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: really pretty good, and probably the only thing that would 153 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: hold me back recommending it would be the price. It's 154 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: not inexpensive for sort of something that doesn't have a 155 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: lot of calories or nutrition in it, but certainly a 156 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: million times better than store bought hot chocolates and some 157 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: of the ones that we're going to look at in 158 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: a sec that you can also find in supermarket. 159 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: And I do think it's important to note was like 160 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: a I would say, like a medical claim on the 161 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 2: side of the packet, so it basically says I only 162 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 2: recommended maximum one per day, not suitable for children, not 163 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: suitable for anybody under fifteen years of age, and not 164 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: suitable for pregnant women, and should only be used under 165 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: medical or dietetic supervision. So I mean, that's probably something 166 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: they're protecting themselves from sort of a legal perspective, but 167 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: I just think that that's something to be aware of. 168 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: So we wouldn't be giving this to our kids. We 169 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: wouldn't be having this if we were a pregnant person, 170 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: I think, just because it is considered a supplementary food 171 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: with the addition of things like magnism in there, even 172 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: though it is in a really small amount. But I 173 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: must have been Susia. I didn't feel any more zen 174 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: or sleepy or calm after I had this. If anything, 175 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: I probably felt the opposite of calm because I was like, oh, 176 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: that's so sweet. 177 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. And I think it's interesting it's this 178 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: kind of food groups where people are really tapping into 179 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: people's sensitive issues, like you know, they need to sleep 180 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: or relax or have more energy. So there's a little 181 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: bit of health halo I think associated with those buzzwords 182 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: not harmful. I wouldn't have any real concern over it. 183 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: But I don't think just having that hot chocolaterink is 184 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: going to make you any more calm. 185 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: It did the opposite time would if. 186 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: You had a handful of nuts before you went to bed, yeah, 187 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: or did some meditation exactly. You know, if you enjoy it, 188 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: it's more. You know, it's not a cheap product. And 189 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: so with clients, I'm always mindful of not recommending foods 190 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: that are incredibly expensive. But certainly, then if people are 191 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: using that at work over going out and buying at 192 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: an expensive hot chocolate that's packed full of sugar, I 193 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: would be very much prefer them to be having something 194 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: like this then going down to the cafe and getting 195 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: you know, let's be honest, at least twenty, if not 196 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: thirty grams of sugar in a hot chocolate that you 197 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: typically get from cafes. So certainly, in that example, I 198 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: would be preferring this variety. And they're worth checking out 199 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: there in the supermarkets, and I would say we'll see 200 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: more and more from this brand. 201 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: And also with that with a cafe option as well, 202 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 2: you typically get the marshmallows as well, which you can 203 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 2: actually say no to. Marshmallow is right. So when you 204 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 2: look at the price point, it is actually a lot 205 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: cheaper compared to a cafe coffee, but compared to the 206 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: rest of the other hot chocolate's available in sachets that 207 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 2: you can make yourself at. 208 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: Home, it is a more. 209 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 2: It is a higher price point, not really paying for 210 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: much more because I think that calming effect is more 211 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 2: sort of a buzzword or a health halo as such. 212 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: So I recommend it as well because I think it's 213 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: a pretty good option. But we've got two more to 214 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: share with our listeners today, don't we. 215 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: But we do, and so I have to. This is 216 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: the confession time. This is the one that I buy Dodgy. 217 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: This is when I recommend my clients as well. Until 218 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: we saw that first wife, it has been the standout 219 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: in It has been the standout in the hot chocolate 220 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: sachets in the supermarket. I must admit I have recommended 221 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: this for many years. I like the taste of it, 222 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: I always have, and I don't drink it in summer. 223 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: I only have it in winter, but it is my favorite. 224 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: Now there's it's the Jarra Classic hot chocolates. Now there's 225 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: lots of different Jarras. There's caramel and all different flavors. 226 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: I only myself ever buy the plain one, just because 227 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: I like it. And we're comparing that now and it 228 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: is ten pack is six dollars. Now that's got up again. 229 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: I remember when it used to be four four fifty. 230 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: So in recent weeks as we've seen huge amounts of 231 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: inflation with all packaged foods in general, so it's so, 232 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: how much is that perserve? It's just sick. This is 233 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: sixty cents per serve versus how much was the other one? 234 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 2: It was over a dollar because yea, normally retails are 235 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: seven fifty for six, so it's almost half. 236 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: And if you get them on sale, as I try to, 237 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: they're sort of four four fifty. And as I said, 238 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: there's quite the tricky in using only half because you 239 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: make it go a lot longer. So nutrally, the ingredients 240 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: milk solids, glucose solids, cocoa seventeen percent, still vegetable oil 241 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 1: which is a coconut again, to get the consistency that 242 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: they're looking for mineral salts vegetable gum. And the reason 243 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: that what I would say on the Nutrition Couch podcast 244 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: is probably I wouldn't generally recommend it. It does contain 245 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: an artificial sweetener, which is nine to five one, which 246 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: is a spartan which has been around for many years 247 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: and is in food, and generally I tell people to 248 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: avoid artificial sweetness in where they can. So the question 249 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: is I include it because I just think small amounts 250 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: of anything out the end of the world. But it 251 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: is incredibly sweet, and I would say you don't need 252 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: the whole saturae. And I do mix mine with milk, 253 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: so it does have a really nice with this one. 254 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: It doesn't. I also finally, and the powder doesn't all 255 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: mix anyway. If you use it. It's really got probably 256 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: two good tablespoons, that's how it feels. It's only eleven 257 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: point five grams, but it really is a lot of 258 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: sort of powder, and I find it just doesn't mix in, 259 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: especially if you've got any a small cup, so you 260 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: really don't need it. And it's coming in it just 261 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: over one ninety is that one ninety ninety six kilosu? Yeah, 262 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: one ninety six kilogels. So what's that about? Forty five 263 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: calories per serve, just over a gram of protein, so 264 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: a little bit coming through the milk. Solids are still 265 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: a low fat product with less than one gram of 266 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 1: SAT per hundred grams, So the carbohydrate load is six 267 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: point nine grams and four point one grams of sugars, 268 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: so just shy of a teaspoon of sugar if you 269 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: use the whole sachet, which for me is still relatively insignificant. No, 270 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: not much. A little bit of sodium actually one fifty four, 271 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: which isn't insignificant I guess for a drink like this, 272 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 1: but very little dietary fiber. So it's one of those 273 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: foods to me, it doesn't have very much in it. 274 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: If you have half of it. It's a sweet thing 275 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: if you're getting a lot of flavor, because I think 276 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: lea and the reason I like it is, you know 277 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: how when you're trying to give yourself a treat or 278 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: something sweet, if you try and have something that's kind 279 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: of healthier, it often doesn't satisfy you, so you keep 280 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: looking for stuff anyway. So if you have a hot 281 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: chocolate that's not overly nice, and you think, oh, I've 282 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: had it, but it didn't really satisfy me. I find myself, 283 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: and even with clients, they'll keep looking for stuff anyway, 284 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: whereas myself, I find that flavor profile and texture they've 285 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: achieved with Jarra is a really nice mouthfeel, So when 286 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: you have it, you feel really satisfied. So it's not 287 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: like you need to keep going and eating sweet food. 288 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: And that's why I personally like it, and I also 289 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: recommend it to my clients because they really find it satisfying. 290 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: And there is quite a few flavors and so if 291 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 1: you like caramel or whatever your mint, you know they 292 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: all fit into that kind of flavor profile. So for me, 293 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: the benefits outweigh the negative. So it means a client's 294 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: not going to eat a block of chocolate or two 295 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: chocolate biscuits. They've had an enjoyable treat that's got less 296 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: than five grams of sugars and a little bit of 297 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: a spartame. I'm pretty happy, But I would get I 298 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: get that purists would be listening thinking, no, it's got 299 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: artificial sweetener. I don't want it. And that's where it 300 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: really comes down to what you're comfortable eating and recommending, 301 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 1: and with my clients, I say to them, Look, if 302 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: you go to the hot chocolate section, there is a 303 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: whole range of hot chocolate drinks out there that come 304 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 1: in at less than one hundred calories. You take your pick. 305 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: So if you prefer the Naked Life one, or if 306 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: there's a different one you prefer, go for it. This 307 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: is a good one. I like it, but everyone's different, 308 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: and I've certainly have got clients who, you know, we've 309 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: had Avalanche on the program before. There's also avalanche ones 310 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: which have a whole range. Now that's not my personal preference, 311 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: but I have a whole lot of clients who love it. 312 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: So I think for me in this category, there are 313 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: certainly options. And if it means that you're not binge 314 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: eating on chocolate blocks and chocolate biscuits and the like, 315 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: I'm pretty happy. 316 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: And I think even my clients, some of them tend 317 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: to make their own at home, so they just use 318 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: like a tea spoon or two of coco powder, hot water, 319 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 2: put a little bit of Steavy in it, and some 320 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 2: of them even add a little bit of black chocolate 321 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 2: flavored protein powder. That's not my jam. It's not something 322 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: I do, but it's something that they really really enjoy it, 323 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: you know, in winter. So there are creative options that 324 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 2: you can do at home, and that's probably a lot 325 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 2: more affordable making yourself as well. But I agree with 326 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: you here, like we're not promoting artificial sweetness, but if 327 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 2: you look at the ingredient list, the artificial sweetness is 328 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: right down the bottom. So the amount of that you're 329 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 2: getting is very minimal. Compared to the previous product where 330 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: the sweetener was the very first ingredient. This is a 331 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: very last ingredient here. And if you're doing what Susie 332 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 2: does and you're using only half the sachet, you're actually 333 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 2: getting just a really really small amount. Of course, we're 334 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: not recommending artificial sweetness. We're not saying, yeah, have them 335 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: and they're fine, but it's a very small amount in 336 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: the grand scheme of things. And same with the sugar. 337 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: People think, oh, chokhoa, it's got four grams of sugar 338 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: per serving. It's a hot chocolate, Like what do people expect? 339 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: So again I think that's a very small amount of 340 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 2: sugar compared to if you would go to go into 341 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: your local cafe and you got the normal hot chocolate 342 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: with the marshmallows added in would be no matter of 343 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 2: what ZUSI probably well over twenty grams of sugar easily. 344 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: Oh at least I think higher, because let's be honest, 345 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: people don't there small. They get a medium and at 346 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: least twenty you know, four or five tea spoons. When 347 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: I see a hot chocolate or a food, die almost 348 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: have a coronary because it's just such a it's your 349 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: entire recommended daily intake about it. Sugar is in a drink, 350 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: so certainly not a better option. So yeah, I think 351 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: it's good to talk about that a little bit because 352 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: if people areut to your coffee drinkers, they're often ordering 353 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: a cheeky hot chocolate at the coffee shop, and let's 354 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: not pretend for a second it's remotely healthy. And then 355 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: what we did, Leanne, we threw in a random. 356 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 2: It's a popular, very popular random matter, is it? Yeah? 357 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: Popular? 358 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 2: Oh, Starbucks is an internationally recognized brand. It's very popular. 359 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 2: I've had a few clients of asking what I thought, 360 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: and I might just take one look at the ingredient list. 361 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: Okay, so we picked the Starbucks signature salted caramel, which 362 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: is nice. Isn't a hot chocolate. So this is a 363 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: ten pac seven sixty So in between the first naked 364 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: product and what you pay person for the jarrot about 365 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: seventy six cents. So if this is basically a full 366 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: strength hot chocolate, So first ingredient's chocolate powder at ninety 367 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: eight percent, followed by which is sugar, So the firsty 368 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: grid is really sugar, cocoa powder which is forty two percent, 369 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: a mulcifier to mix it in some flavor, salt, cocoa solids, 370 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: cocoa butter, but no sweetness. So if we look per serve, 371 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: it's twenty two grams serve. It's a sachet as well, 372 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: almost one hundred cow, so about eighty six cowper serve, 373 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: so sort of slightly more, but I actually think not 374 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: that much more for what you're getting one point eight 375 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: grams of protein two point two grams of fat, so 376 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: it's not a low fat product. It's coming in at almost 377 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: ten percent fat thanks to that proportion of cocoa butter, 378 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: and relatively high and saturated fat overall, but not per 379 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: serve because the serve is quite small. Thirteen point six 380 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: grams of carbohydrate and twelve point five grams of sugar, 381 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: So that's almost three teaspoons of sugar in that serve. 382 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: So indeed, if you again halved it, and I haven't 383 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: tried it, so I don't know how what the flavor's like, 384 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: but if you halved it, you're getting sort of almost 385 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: two teaspoons, so it's more durable. Getting two point six 386 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: grams of fiber, which is a bit roundom again in 387 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: a hot chocolate, I don't know where that's coming from, 388 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: and low sodium. So the position I sit here earlier, 389 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: and it's a bit controversial is that because they've also 390 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: listed if you have it with milk, So it's quite 391 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: a substantial snack. But if you're someone who is not 392 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: is pretty healthy, you don't have a lot of added 393 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: sugar in your diet, so you don't have much package 394 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: stack food. You don't add things like honey and fruit 395 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: juices to your diet, and you really enjoy a good 396 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: hot chocolate drink and don't want to use sweetness. You're 397 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: really looking for the flavor. This is a good product. 398 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: It's less still than a hundred calories. Yes, it's got 399 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,479 Speaker 1: proportionally quite a high amount of sugar, but in the 400 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: diet of someone who's pretty healthy overall, who would prefer 401 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 1: an unsweet natural product. I don't know. I'm not giving it, 402 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not writing it off completely, so I 403 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: think it's got some positives there as well. Now I 404 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: haven't tried it, but I assume it tastes pretty good 405 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: if you had a golf one. 406 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 2: I haven't tried it, but Starbucks is you know, I've 407 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 2: always had good coffees and stuff from Starbucks, So I 408 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 2: would assume that, you know, they're known for good quality products. 409 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 2: You know, they're not knowing for sloppy sloppy product. So 410 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 2: I would assume, highly assume that it's a pretty. 411 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: Good product, and I would say it tastes nice. So 412 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: I think it's like anything in life. If you are 413 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: really struggling to cut back on your sugar intake and 414 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: your calories, probably the lower the sweet and varieties are 415 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: better for you. But I'm thinking of a couple of 416 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: my clients who are pretty healthy clients. They're very active, 417 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: they do a lot of exercise. They're following largely a 418 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: plant based diet, so they're not getting much saturated fat 419 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: from meat and dairy in their diets. And if this 420 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: was their hot chocolate of choice, and for less than 421 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: a hundred calories, I would absolutely give it the thumbs up. 422 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: For any of my insulin resistant clients with glucose regulation, 423 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: I would not just simply based on the carbohydrate load 424 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: of that drink, but for other active people, for kids, certainly, 425 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: it would be my preference to give kids that product 426 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: over the sweetened products, if I'm honest. So you know, 427 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: it's perhaps got a place in the pantry, and particularly 428 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: if you like it it tastes good. 429 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's definitely, you know, some people who 430 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: would suit. And you know, it's pretty amazing when you 431 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: look at the ingredient and listening to twelve and a 432 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: half grand so sugar. Oh, there's a lot of sugar. 433 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: But then, as you said, it's a low calorie product. 434 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 2: It's only eighty six calories, so you're just going to 435 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: be aware of that if you are having something like that. 436 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: Obviously it's a hot chocolate, it's going to have some 437 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: sort of sugar in there. This is slightly higher, but 438 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: you're right, if the rest of the diet is pretty clean, 439 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 2: it's pretty good. You're not snacking on muffins and biscuits 440 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: and you're not having lots of chocolate after dinner, then 441 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 2: I don't really see a problem with it either. And 442 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: you know the trolls are going to come after us 443 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 2: as saying this, but I really think it is all 444 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: about balance and you really got to take a step 445 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: back and look at your diet overall, and if you 446 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 2: are having a lot of added sugars in other places, 447 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 2: this is absolutely not the product for you, despite being 448 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: a low calorie product. 449 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: True, and I think if we were comparing it into 450 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: something like Milo, the difference there for me is that 451 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: Milo is fortified with a number of other nutrients, particularly 452 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: for kids, so you're getting things like calcium and some 453 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: vitamin D in some varieties, whereas you're not getting that 454 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: from the Starbucks product, but purely for a convenient product 455 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: that you're just adding. And it's portion control because let's 456 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: be honestly, and if people have hot chocolates that are 457 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: not portion control oval tine or milow, you're getting heaps 458 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: to sugar because not doing two small tea spoons, you're 459 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: doing you know, bucket loads. Like let's all be honest, 460 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,959 Speaker 1: we all ate milow with a spoon when we were 461 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: kids growing up. Absolutely, so people don't portion control when 462 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: it's in those massive serves. So the benefit of the 463 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: Starbucks is that it's still sachet for kids. But if 464 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: I had teenagers or my boys and they wanted a 465 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: warm drink and you had it with milk, it's actually 466 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: a very nutritious then snack. Yes, relatively high in sugar, 467 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: but in a low sugar diet or for very high 468 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: energy demands, or for active growing teenagers. It's so certainly 469 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 1: a product that I could include in their diet, particularly 470 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,479 Speaker 1: you know, if they're keen to stay away from sort 471 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: of sweetness, or don't even like the flavor of sweetness, 472 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: which is certainly some people they prefer to have the 473 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: natural taste through their mouth. So yeah, it's actually quite interesting. 474 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have thought I would give it that summation, 475 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: but it's not. I wouldn't. I wouldn't have it myself. 476 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: It's a small female. Then a lot of my clients 477 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: it's too high in sugar for them. But you know, 478 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: there's certainly people that it could be for the low 479 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: calorie extra hundred colored day, it's not going to be 480 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: the end of the world. 481 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 2: And speaking of kids, I would for the majority of kids, 482 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 2: depending on the age. If they're teenager is fine, but 483 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 2: if they're children, you know, we're talking under twelve, I 484 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 2: would definitely be splitting that Sashe up and only giving 485 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: them half a sachet with some milksie getting the added coucium, 486 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 2: getting a little bit of protein in that. It's a 487 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 2: little bit more filling. But I really don't think children 488 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 2: would need an entire sachet, so that probably, you know, 489 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 2: helps settle the debate as well. That way, we're only 490 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 2: down to about six grams of added sugar per serving, 491 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 2: which I think is a lot more acceptable for sort 492 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 2: of children. 493 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: And let's be honestly, and a lot more cost effective 494 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: at this time when every I don't whe they're talking 495 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: about six percent infation. As I've said before, every item 496 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,479 Speaker 1: might see all there is like up a dollar. Yeah 497 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: that's not six percent, But that's a topic for another 498 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: another episode. Well, that does bring us to the end 499 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: of the Nutrition Couch product review. 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