1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:01,040 Speaker 1: Just a quick heads up. 2 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 2: This episode contains some details of animal cruelty that some 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 2: of you might find hard to listen to. If you 4 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: want to skip today's episode, we'll be back again on 5 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 2: Monday morning. 6 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 3: Already, and this is the Daily. This is the Daily, 7 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 3: This is the Daily. 8 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: Ohs oh, now it makes sense. 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Friday, 10 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: the twelfth of July. 11 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: I'm Zara, I'm Harry. 12 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 3: The New South Wales greyhound racing industry is being investigated 13 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 3: after a former employee of the racing body detailed allegations 14 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 3: of cover ups and abuse. 15 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 4: You asked me if we're going to shut down the 16 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 4: greyhound racing industry, you deserve a direct answer, and we're 17 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 4: not going to shut it down. 18 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 5: I think it's clear that they cannot be reformed. The 19 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 5: message is that we're not buying the bullshit anymore. 20 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 3: In today's deep dive, we'll look at what the report 21 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 3: says about the way greyhounds are treated in the sport 22 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 3: and what the New South Wales government plans to do next. 23 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 3: But first, Sarah, what's making headlines. 24 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: An investigation is underway after the bodies of a woman 25 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: and a girl believed to be a mother and daughter 26 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: were found in Sydney's northwest. Officers visited a home in 27 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: the suburb of mass Field after a welfare concern was 28 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 2: reported to police. New South Wales Police said a woman 29 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: in her fifties and a teenager were found dead inside 30 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 2: the house. The bodies are yet to be formally identified, 31 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: but a crime scene has been established. 32 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 3: The Northern Territories Police Minister has ruled out extending a 33 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 3: snap curfew called in Alice Springs earlier this week. It 34 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 3: followed a recent spike in violence in the region. The 35 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 3: three day curfew, which applied to both children and adults, 36 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: came to an end on Thursday. Northern Territory authorities deemed 37 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 3: an extension unnecessary. 38 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: Two in five working Australian women have experienced declining mental 39 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: health over the past year. That's according to a new 40 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: report from women's mental health advocacy group the Liptember Foundation. 41 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: The findings follower survey of four and a half thousand Australians, depression, 42 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: anxiety and body image issues were listed as the leading 43 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 2: mental health issues facing working women. 44 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 3: And the good news basketball star Jannis ante to Campo 45 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 3: will become Greece's first ever black Olympic flag bearer ate 46 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 3: to Campo, whose parents emigrated from Nigeria to Greece before 47 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 3: he was born, booked Greece's place in the Paris Games 48 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 3: after a victory against Croatia in this month's qualifiers. He 49 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 3: became a Greek citizen in twenty thirteen, before he was 50 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 3: drafted into the NBA's Milwaukee Bucks, the team he led 51 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 3: to a championship in twenty twenty one. 52 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: Harry, I must confess that you have been around the 53 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: office talking about this story this week, and that this 54 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 2: is something I don't know a lot about. We're talking 55 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: today about the greyhound industry. It's in the headlines, especially 56 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: this week, but it's kind of been around for a 57 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 2: little bit. Can you just give us a bit of 58 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: an overview of the state of play when it comes 59 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: to greyhound racing here in Australia. 60 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 3: So I was actually quite surprised to learn that Australia 61 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 3: is just one of seven countries that has greyhound racing. 62 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 3: Not every country in the world has greyhounds. In some 63 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 3: countries it is banned, and in some particular states it's banned. 64 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 3: If you think of the US, for instance, some states 65 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 3: have greyhound racing. Some of them have outlawed it, and 66 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 3: in Australia we have it in every state and territory 67 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 3: except the ACT. So greyhound racing is an industry that 68 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: you could definitely say is fairly familiar with some controversies, 69 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 3: and in particular, there have always been some concerns about 70 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: animal welfare, about its association with the gambling industry, and 71 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 3: some questions over whether racing bodies are being adequately regulated, 72 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 3: that it's being overseen by an independent body and that 73 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 3: it's following the rules. 74 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: This might be a really stupid question, and I know 75 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: I'm not allowed to say that. I'm here because we read. 76 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: There's no silly questions, Sarah. 77 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 2: When we talk about greyhound racing, we're talking about like 78 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 2: what happens with horses in horse racing, but just with greyhounds, right, dogs? Okay, 79 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 2: so we're talking about dog races. 80 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 3: We're talking about dog race Okay. 81 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: I feel like the first time I saw it in 82 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: the news was I believe it was a four corners 83 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: investigation that was done by the ABC. What was that 84 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: investigation about? Was that kind of the first point at 85 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: which all eyes were on the greyhound racing industry. 86 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 3: It was definitely the biggest scandal around greyhound racing, especially 87 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: in the last decade or so or the last twenty years. 88 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 3: There's always been some murmurings about what has been happening 89 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: in the industry, but I think that was one of 90 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: these big moments where a lot of people's stomachs were 91 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 3: churned by what they saw on TV. So this particular 92 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: investigation by the ABC exposed what is known as live 93 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 3: baiting in the industry, which is what So this is 94 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 3: where and I do apologize because this is some pretty 95 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 3: gruesome detail to go through, but it's basically where a 96 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: live animal is used as bait for a greyhound to 97 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 3: chase on the race track. 98 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 2: Why would that be a thing? Why would they be 99 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: doing that in the first instance, Well. 100 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 3: It goes back to dogs and they're just pure animalistic instinct, 101 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: which is to chase down prey. And these prey in 102 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 3: this particular circumstance is completely defenseless. It's just hanging off 103 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 3: a rod that's being word around the track, and so 104 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 3: they're encouraged to race after it and they will mould 105 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 3: that animal once they get to it. So that is 106 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 3: against the rules. It's not allowed. This particular expos in 107 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 3: twenty fifteen discovered that it was actually being used and 108 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 3: it was actually quite widespread as well. It wasn't just 109 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 3: one outlandish track, it was multiple tracks right up and 110 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 3: down the country. 111 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: Okay, And so that was exposed. You said back in 112 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: twenty fifteen, what happened? Were there any changes to the 113 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 2: industry if we're saying it was fairly widespread, did anything change? 114 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: So there were definitely some major consequences. Few officials and 115 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 3: trainers were dismissed and banned from ever competing in greyhound 116 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 3: racing again or being involved in the industry, i should say. 117 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 3: And there were a number of state reviews into the 118 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 3: industry altogether. And this is where we come to New 119 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 3: South Wales because at the time it was led by 120 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 3: a coalition government under former Premier Mike Baird, who actually 121 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: passed ben on greyhound racing, remember that twenty sixteen. Yeah, 122 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,559 Speaker 3: and it was a pretty big move at the time. 123 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 3: It was the first state to do so. 124 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: So was that in response to what had happened. 125 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 3: There had been a special Commission of inquiry. So this 126 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: big investigation, this big statewide review after the expos a 127 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 3: and then the state decided to ban the industry altogether. 128 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: The report he has produced is chilling, confronting. 129 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 4: It's horrific. 130 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: A ban was legislated here in New South Wales. But 131 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: it's eight years later and we're talking about greyhound's in 132 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: New South Wales again. 133 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: What's happened during that time? 134 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 3: The ban actually never came into place, so it had 135 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 3: been legislated to start the following year, but within three 136 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 3: months of that legislation passing, the government decided to overturn it. 137 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 3: So today I can announce that the greyhound industry will 138 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 3: be given that one last year. 139 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 4: It'll be given an opportunity to reform as it needs to. 140 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: Now. One of the areas of reform involved bringing in 141 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 3: a new regulator, the Greyhound Welfare and Integrity Institute, and 142 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 3: that was put in place to monitor animal welfare and 143 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: to make sure the industry as a whole was complying 144 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: with the new rules. 145 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: Okay, so there was this new body that was set 146 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: up to regulate the industry and to make sure that 147 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: the rules were being followed here in New South Wales. 148 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: Is that what has happened? 149 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 3: As far as we knew, there was compliance, there was 150 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 3: more reporting. There was an annual report that would come 151 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 3: out every year and then we come to June this year. 152 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: So there was a vet. His name was doctor Alex Britton. 153 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 3: He worked as the top veterinarian at Greyhound Racing New 154 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 3: South Wales and he left his post in June and 155 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 3: when he quit he put together a handover document. Normally 156 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 3: I would think a guide to what would the next 157 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 3: person doing the role have to do? Can they log 158 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 3: into the server and those kinds of things, But instead 159 00:08:55,559 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 3: he wrote a fifty four page long analysis of what 160 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 3: he thought were some areas of concern within the greyhound 161 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 3: racing industry. So he included in this documents, emails, photos, spreadsheets, 162 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 3: you name it. He had it basically backing up some 163 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 3: of his concerns about animal welfare, about this alleged cover 164 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 3: up that had been going on within the industry itself, 165 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 3: and Doc Britton he was scathing and there's a quote 166 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 3: I pulled out from it that I think sums up 167 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 3: his views. He said, the Greyhound Racing Body has been 168 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 3: quote misrepresenting and obfuscating the facts. 169 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: Right, So some fairly severe language there. What exactly are 170 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 2: his accusations? 171 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 3: So he covered off many parts of the industry, But 172 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 3: I think it's helpful to split his report into two 173 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 3: key areas, so the first being dog injuries. Britain said 174 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 3: current practices are putting dogs at higher risk of injury. So, 175 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 3: for example, he pointed to the fact that some greyhound 176 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: racing tracks are using hard clay. In places like the UK, 177 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 3: it's pretty much all wet sand that the dogs are 178 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 3: racing on and that's better for their pores and avoids 179 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 3: serious injuries. He also said the way that the new 180 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 3: South Wales Racing Body pays greyhound owners is also adding 181 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 3: to the increased risk of dog injuries because as it 182 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 3: stands at the moment, trainers given sixty dollars for every 183 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 3: greyhound they bring to race day. 184 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: So is the logic then that people are trying to 185 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 2: enter more greyhounds into races because they'll be paid. 186 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: More, exactly, So that's what Britain's saying. There's an incentive 187 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 3: they're being goaded into bringing as many dogs as possible 188 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 3: and that has led to an increased risk of injury. 189 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 3: So that could be that there's just more of a 190 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 3: chance with dog being hurt when they're racing, or trainers 191 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 3: might be racing animals that just aren't fit to do so. 192 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 2: This man's role was as a vet for greyhound racing 193 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 2: New South Wales, so presumably he had a role in 194 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 2: protecting these animals to some degree. What are the rules 195 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: around the health of greyhounds? What was his role meant 196 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 2: to be So. 197 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 3: When it comes to Britain's role specifically as a vet, 198 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 3: he noted that vets are there on race day under 199 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 3: the new rules and they need to inspect the well 200 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 3: being of the racing dogs. But he said that in 201 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 3: some cases vets are only given forty five minutes to 202 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 3: inspect as many as one hundred to one hundred and 203 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 3: twenty dogs at a time, so he calculated that to 204 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: be about thirty seconds per dog, and he said it 205 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 3: makes it pretty much impossible for them to fully undergo 206 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 3: a health assessment of each greyhound before they race. And 207 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 3: also in New South Wales, greyhounds are allowed to race 208 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: every second day and Britain points out that in Queensland 209 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 3: and Western Australia the rules required dogs only race no 210 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 3: more than twice a week to recover between those races. 211 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: What else did he say about the conditions of these dogs. 212 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 3: He included some photos of kennels in Western Sydney which 213 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 3: are used to hold some of the dogs before the races, 214 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 3: and these images showed blood smeared on the floor of 215 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 3: some small kennels with what he said were rotten and 216 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 3: rusted cages, so not exactly ideal conditions for the dogs, 217 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 3: and he said that it was also causing some problems 218 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 3: with their pores. They'd be scraping up against some of 219 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 3: these cages, and it just wasn't a very suitable environment 220 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 3: for a dog that's about to go out onto a 221 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 3: racing track. 222 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: And so part of this handover document, I don't even 223 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 2: know if we can call it that, but part of 224 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: this document is about the conditions and the welfare of 225 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: the animals. But from what I understand, there was another 226 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: part about the industry at large. 227 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, So the second big part of his report 228 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 3: looked at what's known as rehoming rates. So that's either 229 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 3: when you adopt out a dog to go live with 230 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 3: a family or to go live in a residential property, 231 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 3: or if the dog stays on an owner's property itself, 232 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 3: so basically where the dog goes to live for the 233 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 3: rest of its life. Before a greyhound can be adopted, though, 234 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 3: it needs to be des sext and this is something 235 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 3: that Greyhound Racing New South Wales actually pays owners to 236 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 3: do as an incentive so they cover that cost. And 237 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 3: so what Alex Britton noted was he believed that the 238 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 3: numbers of rehomed dogs as reported by Greyhound Racing New 239 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 3: South Wales were grossly exaggerated. So for instance, he pointed 240 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 3: to the figures in twenty twenty three, so the body 241 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 3: had said that two two hundred dogs had been rehomed, 242 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 3: but then he pointed out a gap because the regulator 243 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 3: had said that one six hundred and fifty dogs had 244 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 3: been rehomed in that year, so that's about a five 245 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty dog gap. And he alleges that this 246 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 3: gap comes from the racing body counting to sex dogs 247 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 3: as re home dogs. But that's not necessarily the case, 248 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 3: because he says in reality owners will either keep the 249 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 3: dogs or pay to send them to these boarding shelters 250 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 3: where they live out. What he says is a miserable 251 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 3: post racing lives in these industrial sized kennels. So think 252 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 3: of those massive cages with not much room to move 253 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 3: on big properties, and that's where all these greyhounds apparently 254 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 3: are being sent to to live out the rest of 255 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 3: their lives. 256 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,359 Speaker 2: So obviously this is just one individual who has alleged 257 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 2: a number of wrongdoings on behalf of this industry. How 258 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: has the racing body responded to all of this? 259 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,359 Speaker 3: The CEO of Greyhound Racing New South Wales, Rob McCauley, 260 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 3: resigned on Tuesday after the media started reporting on the accusations. 261 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 3: In his resignation statement, he defended the industry as a 262 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 3: key source of income and jobs and prosperity for communities 263 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 3: right across New South Wales and in a statement that 264 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 3: was sent to the Daily Os, Greyhound Racing New South 265 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 3: Wales said it takes quote any claims or concern related 266 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 3: to animal welfare or the integrity of our rehoming programs 267 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 3: very seriously and all seven members of the racing board 268 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 3: have been given until today Friday to show cause to 269 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 3: the Minister for Racing as to why they also shouldn't 270 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 3: lose their jobs. 271 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: Very strong kind of follow on effects. 272 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 3: There as far as an organization being held responsible and accountable. 273 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 3: This immediately absolutely. 274 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 2: Right and so what happens to the industry, I mean, 275 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 2: clearly there have been quite immediate consequences for Greyhound Racing 276 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 2: New South Wales. But what happens to the industry at large? 277 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: Do you think it'll be banned? 278 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 3: So the Premier Chris Mins was asked his very question 279 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 3: the other day about whether the industry at large would 280 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 3: be banned, which is what former Premier Mike Bed tried 281 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 3: to do back in twenty sixteen. 282 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 4: Look, we're not going to shut down the industry, but 283 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 4: we do take this report seriously. 284 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 3: The regulator also said it's going to launch an investigation, 285 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 3: but the Greens and the Animal Justice Party say an 286 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 3: inquiry won't be enough. I spoke with Upper House Greens 287 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 3: MP Abigail Boyd who said she thinks these revelations could 288 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: be a repeat of what that Four Corners episode back 289 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 3: in twenty fifteen triggered. 290 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 5: I'm hoping that people really begin to understand that this 291 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 5: is a cruel, cruel industry that seeing thousands of dogs 292 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 5: die and be injured and be left for dead in 293 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 5: every single year. 294 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: This doesn't feel like a party specific issue. We have 295 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 2: had a labor government here respond But previously, as you said, 296 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: Mike Bed, who was a coalition premier, tried to ban 297 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: the industry. 298 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: What have we heard from the coalition in New South Wales. 299 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 3: A spokesperson for the Shadow Racing Minister Kevin Anderson told 300 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 3: The Daily Odds that he is monitoring the situation closely. 301 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 3: That didn't go into any further details, so there's plenty 302 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 3: of developments to still come to light. It's a bit 303 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 3: uncertain at the moment what's going to happen with the board. 304 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 3: We're going to find out a bit more today, I believe, 305 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 3: because that's the deadline that was given to the board 306 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 3: to show cause why they shouldn't be let go and 307 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 3: what is going to happen more broadly with greyhound racing 308 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 3: in New South Wales. 309 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: Harry, thanks so much for explaining that, and thank you 310 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,239 Speaker 2: for listening to another week of the Daily Ods. If 311 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: you learn something, please send it to a friend. 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