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Speaker 1: Get a. I'm Lola Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter

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Speaker 1: and professional overshaer. This podcast is all about celebrating failure

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Speaker 1: because I believe it's a chance for us to learn,

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Speaker 1: grow and face our blind spots. Each week I'll interview

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Speaker 1: a different guest about their highs as well as their lows,

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Speaker 1: all in a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail.

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Speaker 1: Mary Crimbo, that is my word for Christmas. Just two

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Speaker 1: more sleeps until Santa visits. So of course we had

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Speaker 1: to re release Dennis Walter's app on the pod. He's incredible,

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Speaker 1: one of the most beautiful voices in the world. If

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Speaker 1: you are in Australia, please watch the Christmas Carols in

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Speaker 1: the Maya Music Bowl on chrisy Eve. Dennis Walter is

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Speaker 1: such a joy to what and to listen to, and

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Speaker 1: in this podcast he shares so much about his career

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Speaker 1: and how he was actually really really shy and kind

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Speaker 1: of like not scared of the entertainment industry, but he

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Speaker 1: had to really work hard to go after his dreams.

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Speaker 1: So hope you love this chat. Dennis, thank you for

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Speaker 1: jumping on the pod a couple of years ago now.

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Speaker 1: But every Christmas I have to bring it out again

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Speaker 1: because he is such a joy of a human being.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy this one. And Mary Chrissy, I have got to

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Speaker 1: admit I'm a little nervous for the incredible Dennis Walter

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Speaker 1: being on the podcast. You've been on my dream list

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Speaker 1: for so long A dream list, Yeah, my dream guest list.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's good.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So for people listening, you are an iconic voice

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Speaker 1: of Australia, I would say definitely. You're probably gonna say

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Speaker 2: No, that's probably. Well. I spent so much in my

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Speaker 1: And early on too. I cannot wait to I'm going

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Speaker 1: to you'll learn this. I'm so excited to have you

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Speaker 1: on that I'm going to be jumping around.

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Speaker 2: That's right as you wish.

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Speaker 1: So you're obviously synonymous with three W Afternoon since two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eight, eleven years yep, now Nights Nights, which

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Speaker 1: I listened to all last week, thank you. And before

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Speaker 1: that win News.

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Speaker 2: Win News, and I was doing seven days a week

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Speaker 2: for six months of the year. Because I was doing

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Speaker 2: win News during the week, I was doing a spot

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Speaker 2: with Ernie on a Friday. Yes, when Ernie Sigley hosted

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Speaker 1: That's where you and I met. Yes, I came on

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Speaker 1: a few times. We talked about health and wellness, Yes

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Speaker 1: we did. And this is why, this is the reason

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Speaker 1: why I really wanted you on the podcast, because every

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Speaker 1: time we had a segment together, I was blown away

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Speaker 1: by not just your professionalism, but you have and I

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Speaker 1: would like in Peter Hitchener to having this same quality

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Speaker 1: as well. It's like a respect for the industry. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that feels very rare.

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Speaker 2: Now, well, it probably is a bit rare. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: much of life and things within the media are fleeting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's but there's.

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Speaker 2: Ask anyone who's been on one of these reality shows

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Speaker 2: and suddenly become recognizable in the supermarket until about six

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Speaker 1: Been on totally. But I think this is what I

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Speaker 1: love about everything that I've researched about you is you're

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Speaker 1: in it for the long haul. But you've done your work.

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Speaker 1: Ethic is clearly incredible. So I'm going to go back

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Speaker 1: to the start. You grew up locally to hear Is

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Speaker 1: that right? We're recording in talkie right now.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I grew up about twenty five minutes from here

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Speaker 2: Bearable Hills to the right of the Ring Road around Geelong.

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Speaker 2: You get to a spot where it's very hilly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, where you go up the Yeah, I know, what

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Speaker 2: Now I'm certain.

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Speaker 2: He rocked that like every Saturday, and if you didn't

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Speaker 2: I love that he used to clean his fingernails with

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Speaker 1: Really. Yes, okay, so when you were so, I know

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Speaker 1: I know you've been singing or you're in young talent

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Speaker 1: Amazing, okay, and then so how does young talent time

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Speaker 1: come about? You're fifteen years old? One thing I would

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Speaker 2: You have researched this well, very well. That's correct. Dad

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Speaker 2: Both his parents died before he was eleven. Yes, I

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Speaker 2: think his mom died not long after his birth. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So and your mom was quite creative, as my mum was.

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Speaker 2: art wise she was really fantastic, but never did it.

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Speaker 2: Oh? Just through my drive. Really, I just wanted to.

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Speaker 2: My parents didn't push me. They didn't at any point

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Speaker 2: So it was my desire to go on Young Talent Time,

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Speaker 2: where I lost, and they put me through it on AHM,

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Speaker 2: the Honorable Mention, and I lost again, and about a

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Speaker 2: year later, the only other option back then was New Faces.

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Speaker 2: I went on New Faces and won the heat and

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Speaker 2: then won the final, and then Young Talent Time said

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Speaker 1: Really, and so was Young Talent Time the launching pad

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Speaker 1: in many ways, because that's where LIBERACEI came along.

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Speaker 2: Is that where that I knew you'd mentioned this. I

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Speaker 2: haven't seen that movie, you know why? Because I was

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Speaker 2: scared I was going to be in it. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: went up when I started back Young Talent time after

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Speaker 2: the New Faces WI. Yes, Yes, that meant I was recording.

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Speaker 2: I was traveling with them, doing tours mostly around Christmas

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Speaker 2: and school holiday times. And then the LIBERACEI thing happened

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Speaker 1: Came home and so basically that meant did that mean

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Speaker 1: like a late night audition, Yes, after he'd performed or

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Speaker 2: Yes, at the Green Room Club on Queens Road, Okay,

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Speaker 2: That was the concept. I got there and was told

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Speaker 2: I was probably about sixteen by this point. And their son,

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Speaker 2: It's clear because I thought, the the hell am I

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Speaker 1: Was, and that's where you had a mate kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: No, oh, nothing, nothing, And then I was told I

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's a nightmare.

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Speaker 2: So here I am. I'm over there on other people's money,

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Speaker 2: no prospect of working. They're not there. They're actually away

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Speaker 2: on tour. And it wasn't really it wasn't their fault.

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Speaker 2: because we surely would have known that before I got

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Speaker 2: on the plane. Yeah, so I came back within ten days.

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Speaker 1: Oh good on you.

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Speaker 2: Well, it was nothing else to do.

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Speaker 1: You're able to call it as well.

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Speaker 2: And so I was desperately homesick.

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Speaker 1: Australia's pretty amazing. That's one thing I've learned about all

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Speaker 1: of this pandemic. I'm like, I'm falling really in love

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Speaker 1: with Victoria like yesterday we went to the Twelve Apostles

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Speaker 1: Beautiful and we were listening to Dennis Walter Christmas album.

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Speaker 1: There's a couple of them. Yes, great, there's so many goodies.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to talk Christmas with you. Do you

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Speaker 1: know we got so excited to have you here that

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Speaker 1: my boyfriend and I have made you gluten free fruit

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Speaker 1: mincepires to take home.

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Speaker 2: What I've never been treated with.

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Speaker 1: Oh they're gluten free those Matt, my wodfriend said, make

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Speaker 1: sure Dennis knows they're an experiment. They're a little bit

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Speaker 2: So am I I'm a lot denser than many.

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Speaker 1: I heard an interview from a very young age, you

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Speaker 2: You were very I didn't have, even when I had

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Speaker 1: I have so many questions about this for you because

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, So this is my question for you, And

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Speaker 2: Not so much for regional news, No, really, because we

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Speaker 2: Then would we'd record the five lots of weathers and

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Speaker 2: I'm an idiot. No, And I was doing six months

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Speaker 2: I reckon eight When I come on.

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Speaker 1: As a guest, You're always so welcoming. You always knew

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Speaker 1: my name, you were so prepared, Thanks, Julie. But also

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Speaker 2: If you're a bit of a rough they don't always

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Speaker 1: So you're screening it a little bit. Yeah, but we

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Speaker 1: Okay, So one more question about news, and then I'm

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Speaker 1: going straight back to radio because this is just so exciting.

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Speaker 2: Can I have a drink?

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Speaker 1: Go for it? Have a drink? How as much as

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Speaker 2: It's just unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: So with news, you and this is where I like

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Speaker 1: and you to Pete Hitchin, and the two of you

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Speaker 1: have got this beautiful intonation and I know that you're

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Speaker 2: In fact, when I was young, I was doing a

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Speaker 2: listening to John Laws and different people out that John Peers,

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Speaker 2: and he do this six hours on those three topics. Wow,

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Speaker 2: And he'd argue with everyone for that six hours, and

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Speaker 1: Amazing.

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Speaker 2: He was brilliant. Yeah, anyway, sorry, what was the question?

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Speaker 1: Oh what was No?

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Speaker 2: My father had a big voice through his classical singing.

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Speaker 2: But I always wondered whether I actually had my shirt's

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Speaker 1: But it's so, it's just so it's so fascinating to

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Speaker 1: it's this. It reminds me of like a trusted voice

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you and Peach and I are very good friends.

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Speaker 1: can't fault that. That's like honest truth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like Pete and I are what you see is

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Speaker 1: I love that. That's the key, right, Well, I hope

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty one years ninety nine, Yeah, twenty.

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Speaker 1: Quickly about Ernie. Did he kind of because did he

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Speaker 2: But when he started to do it tonight show out

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Speaker 2: Then I started doing Friday lunch with him on Yes

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Speaker 1: So when I found out you've mentioned him as somebody

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Speaker 2: Well in Melbourne Today, which was their morning show I

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Speaker 2: at nine when I was at that point when I

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Speaker 1: Were you cheeky?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yes? We never got one complaint.

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Speaker 2: No? I did it in the tiny little studio which

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Speaker 2: I think it was Graham. It was somebody's converted dressing room.

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Speaker 1: Segment in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And there was a cartoon in the Herald Son

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Speaker 2: It was fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I even saw you're a lot of fun

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Speaker 1: calling Keno the person that was imitating here.

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Speaker 2: Someone brooks his name, and he did a brilliant job.

441
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Speaker 2: And they did the Keno draw where I was just

442
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 2: pulling the balls out of the container the ones I wanted.

443
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Speaker 1: To pick out and singing impossible dream? Is that right? Yeah?

444
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: So if you ever get bored one afternoon, just a

445
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Speaker 1: YouTube your said.

446
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Speaker 2: I didn't know anything about that till three weeks ago.

447
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 2: Someone rang in on the radio and said, have you

448
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 2: ever seen I said, no, I've seen it now, so good.

449
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Speaker 1: Okay, So radio, you've obviously, like I said, had this

450
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Speaker 1: wonderful career at three at w you've been Yes, it's talkback,

451
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 1: but also like your audience is informed, like you're on

452
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Speaker 1: top of the news, breaking news. Has there been any

453
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Speaker 1: like I don't want to say, standout moments of like

454
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Speaker 1: a highlight, but maybe like a big breaking news moment. Yes.

455
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 2: I was on air when we learned that Peter Brock died.

456
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 2: I was on air when we learned of Steve Irwin.

457
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 1: I still remember that exact moment.

458
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Speaker 2: I was on air with the christ Church earthquakes as

459
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,360
Speaker 2: this news was coming through, and Karen Hinch was doing

460
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 2: nutrition with me, and she looked up at the monitor

461
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 2: in the studio and started to shake and almost burst

462
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Speaker 2: into tears because her daughter's best friend was seen running

463
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Speaker 2: in fear of the earthquake. So that was just bizarre.

464
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Speaker 2: I was also on air when Burke Street happened, and

465
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Speaker 2: Dennis Okaine was doing a presser with Robert Doyle because

466
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Speaker 2: he was then Lord Mayor, and his voice started changing

467
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Speaker 2: and I said this was a quarter to one, and

468
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Speaker 2: I said, you're right. He said, something's going on here.

469
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Speaker 2: He said. This helicopter's blow overhead, he said, and then

470
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Speaker 2: the car came up Swanston Street and it's then we

471
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Speaker 2: just watched, sorry can watch. We realized that something serious

472
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Speaker 2: was happening. And then over the next between ten to

473
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Speaker 2: one and three o'clock, we had all these people bringing

474
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Speaker 2: in saying what they were seeing, and they were locked

475
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 2: in their buildings. They're looking down on what has happened.

476
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 2: We spoke to one fellow rang in. Some listeners got

477
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Speaker 2: their kids who were in lockdown to ring into the

478
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Speaker 2: station keep us informed. And one bloke rang and he said,

479
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Speaker 2: he said, I'm looking at the front of the Commodore

480
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 2: and there's a baby stroller on it, and that was horrendous.

481
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Speaker 2: And I remember just before three we spoke to Christine Nixon.

482
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Speaker 2: She was then not police chief, but she'd been standing

483
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Speaker 2: at the corner of I think William Street at the

484
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Speaker 2: lights and the car had come behind her on the footpath.

485
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Speaker 1: Oh, I've got goosebumps. This is your retaelling there. How

486
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Speaker 1: do you hold yourself together?

487
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:01,959
Speaker 2: I'm not good at that.

488
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: I think you are.

489
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 2: I was on there the night of the Eastern Freeway

490
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 2: thing as well as that was.

491
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Speaker 1: That was what you're getting calls as.

492
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was. I was really confronted by that. Found

493
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: that really difficult and.

494
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 1: Did something overcome you where You're like, this job right

495
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: now is bigger than me, and I'm here to almost

496
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: like hold the space and facilitate whatever in order to

497
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Speaker 1: keep the audience informed.

498
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 2: You just you've got to keep them informed. But I

499
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 2: wear my heart on my sleeve, so I'm prone.

500
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Speaker 1: To I have seen this hook. I have seen her.

501
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,959
Speaker 1: I don't think this is a bad thing. I've seen her.

502
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: I love Christmas, and so I've watched many videos of

503
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Speaker 1: you at the catt it's actually you're part of my

504
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: talking absolutely and unashamedly might I say, but you're part

505
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: of my Christmas tradition at a thousand percent. In fact,

506
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: we're in my dad's holiday home recording this right now.

507
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: And he called me and he said, what day you

508
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: got Dennis Walter coming in? I said Monday, And he said,

509
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: please promise me you clean that house.

510
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: He said, he everything's fine, Dad.

511
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: Yes, I actually said, I'm going to ask for a

512
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: shout out for Nol.

513
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 2: So hello, Nol.

514
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: He's going to love very Christmas.

515
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: So give me the keys to your holiday.

516
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: And this is nice. So you've made you will have

517
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 1: made his Christmas just by saying that. But I was

518
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 1: watching on YouTube you were it was actually I think

519
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: last year's Carol's by Candlelight, and you said, this is

520
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: nearly my fiftieth and you got choked up, and I

521
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: got choked up. Yeah, watching it.

522
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Speaker 2: We can't actually work out how many it is because

523
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 2: I did them for Channel oh.

524
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, oh yeah when was Channel Oh, like when

525
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 1: I started on.

526
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 2: Young Talent Time. Yeah, so we can't I don't know

527
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: how many I've done for Channel Oh, but I know

528
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 2: that when Channel nine took it over, I've done every

529
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: year bar one, So it's it's probably it's not fifty.

530
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 2: It's probably getting closer to forty. Pretty impressive, but it's

531
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Speaker 2: definitely about thirty five.

532
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this, but every time

533
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: that I'd come on and do a sing with you,

534
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: I was like, if you picked your song yet, that's right,

535
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: and you go, what give me your request?

536
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:19,719
Speaker 2: Lol?

537
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: And I was like, first, Noel because my dad's name

538
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: is Noel spelt the same way, and so that's kind

539
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: of our Christmas tree every year is just Noel baubles

540
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: because it's like an ode to my dad and we

541
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Speaker 1: And you said, you know what you should do. You

542
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: should come to the dress rehearsal. Yes, because I was

543
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: I always put Christmas on at my house so often

544
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve is spent prepping food with the carols on

545
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: in the background. And you said, come with the dress rehearsal.

546
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: It's like donation. It's the night. It's the twenty third.

547
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: So I rocked up to the dressers and my brother

548
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Speaker 1: and my dad. You jump on stage and you're like,

549
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: this one's Forlola Berry.

550
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: Do you really I did do that?

551
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: You did?

552
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: I did?

553
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: And I updated my Facebook status to year made. Dennis

554
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: Walter just dedicated this song. So You've got me so

555
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: much joy and I've never got to thank you for that.

556
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: So this is my moment say thank you so much pleasure.

557
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: And my dad was nudging me, going did you just

558
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: see that? I said, yes, Dad, let's just soak it up.

559
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: But there's something really magical. On a more serious note

560
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: about the carols and you you bring so much heart,

561
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Speaker 1: and please keep doing them forever and ever and ever.

562
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: Well, I'll be doing them as long as they as

563
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Speaker 2: long as.

564
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Speaker 1: The phone rings has it rung for this year, hasn't it?

565
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: Yes?

566
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: Are you allowed to reveal what you're going to sing?

567
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: Yes, I've got a new single out, Christmas single which

568
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: came out out of nowhere, as did the recording deal

569
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: with Sony, which is just a story in itself. But

570
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: one of the execs rang me about seven weeks ago

571
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: and said, look, we need a little Christmas and he

572
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: said that's the song. He said, but we need to

573
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: do it not on Papa like it was in Mame

574
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 2: the musical. We need to do a modern version of

575
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: It's Beautiful.

576
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: I listened to it. Yeah, and the lovely girl there,

577
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: Oh her voice.

578
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 2: And it's just gorgeous. Michael Christiana did the arrangement.

579
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: He's done a lot of the I also stalked him on.

580
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: Instagra, Yes, a bit of se he's done a lot

581
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 2: of seekers work and he's brilliant and it's come up

582
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 2: a treat and it's just the right message.

583
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: You've got some favorites of I've got some favorites that

584
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: you always do though, because of your so for people listening.

585
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: If you have been living under a rock and you

586
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: haven't heard Dennis Walter at Christmas, you see it's baritone,

587
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: right based, baritone, super deep, beautiful, which was why you

588
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: were so did so well with Young Town time. You're

589
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: this like skinny, little fifteen year old with this really

590
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: boomer of a voice, right yeah.

591
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and horrendously shy.

592
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: And did I hear an interview that you weren't so

593
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: prone to dancing.

594
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 2: Oh yes, I am the crappiest dancer in the world.

595
00:30:58,840 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: Me too. Don't worry.

596
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 2: No, I'm worse than you.

597
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: I don't promise you. I would think, though, because you're

598
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: a singer, you'd understand beat tune, you'd be way better

599
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: than me.

600
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: Yep, I understand doesn't mean the body does if it.

601
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: Makes you feel any better. I auditioned to go to

602
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: drama school and I didn't get a high enough ter

603
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: score ter score to get into the Monash Performing Art Score.

604
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: So I was like, I'll just audition with musical theater

605
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: and get in that way. I sung, Oh Lord, won't

606
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: you buy me a Mercedes Benz a cappella? And they

607
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: said stopped me halfway through and said, hmm, we think

608
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: you may have a pitching problem.

609
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 2: Ah.

610
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: So if that makes I can't sing or dance, but

611
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: I did. I still got into the course, thank goodness,

612
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: but not the musical theater. The acting one. Thank you

613
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: lucky is what I'm getting at because the other bits,

614
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: no good.

615
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 2: Well it makes me feel better about myself.

616
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: Good good. Okay. So you so does that mean that

617
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: the Carols you're going to be singing your new song?

618
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: Yes, So we're trying to work out how because we

619
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: don't know if can journey to Melbourne because she's in Brisbane. Okay,

620
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 2: hopefully she can, and but they've got other ways.

621
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: Great of course, because there will be no audience this year.

622
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: That's right.

623
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: That will be bizarre.

624
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: It will be, but how amazing because I think people

625
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: are going to need carols more than ever. Of course

626
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: that's what I had to go ahead, absolutely, and so

627
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: many people. I don't know what the viewership is, but

628
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: so many people that will be part of their Christmas.

629
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: Like it's my Christmas Eve ritual.

630
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: It's not just Australia. It goes internationally as well.

631
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. So are you singing any other carols at this point?

632
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: I'm not sure they might need it having to do

633
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: it all different, usually do two songs.

634
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. I'm really looking forward to it.

635
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: I also love your rendition of Amazing Grace, which I

636
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,239
Speaker 1: know is that Christmas It is kind of Christmas Eve,

637
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: but it's not really, is it.

638
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 2: No, it's just the right sort of message.

639
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, my father did that with me at Carols.

640
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: I've seen a photo of it, is it stand? Yeah,

641
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: I've seen a photo of you.

642
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: He was almost eighty at that point, and Remy Martin

643
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 2: Brandy got him on stage because he was so nervous.

644
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: He'd never been in front of him.

645
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: It's a huge audience, orchestra.

646
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 2: And chorus and this massive candles out front was a

647
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: big thing. Oh, he's great. And then we reprieved it

648
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: about six or seven years ago when my niece Julie

649
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 2: came on. We did amazing grace.

650
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: Well, I love this. Yeah, Okay, so I've got to

651
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: ask this question. You're probably gonna laugh when I ask it.

652
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 2: You want to be on carols and do it?

653
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: Like I said, I have a pitching problem. I'm happy

654
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: to I'm happy to just be a humble consumer of

655
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: the carols every single year. Do you get nervous? Is

656
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: my question?

657
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 2: I get more excited. I just I love doing it.

658
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: And we're usually most of us are struggling to make

659
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: sure we've got the lyric right.

660
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: Really, there's no autok there is no no Oh.

661
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: There is for the host, but not for us.

662
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, So you've just got to wing it. Well,

663
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: you've got to know it. How much notice? Do you

664
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 1: get to learn the song?

665
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: Quite a few weeks usually, so.

666
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: They will probably give you if you end up doing

667
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: a second song, you'll get that at least it'll be.

668
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: A Carol and I'll probably know it vaguely.

669
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: Great, and you do only do the jail. I don't

670
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: know if I'm presuming the Geelong Carols won't. Will they

671
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: still happen, but you usually do.

672
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 2: I was going to try and do them virtually. Yeah,

673
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 2: but the more I thought about it, the more I thought,

674
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 2: hang on, do you really want to be sitting around

675
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: a laptop as a family. I'm just not sure that's

676
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 2: the I'm doing a couple of them in other areas,

677
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: but I just wasn't sure whether it was. The whole

678
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: idea of Carol's My Candlelight is that, yes, you watch

679
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: it as a television event when it's done to the

680
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: level on Channel nine. I don't know whether you want

681
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 2: to zoom it.

682
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I understand that, I totally because it's about connection, right,

683
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: and the connection.

684
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 2: Is the family is gathering on the lawn in front

685
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 2: of you.

686
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: Totally. No, I totally hear that. I just guess I'm

687
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: looking for any excuse to soak up Carol's and Dennis.

688
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: It's the most beautiful setting I've got for Geelong Carrols

689
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 2: because we put the stage backing onto corri Obey and

690
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 2: the people sit up in the natural Amphitheater at Eastent Beach.

691
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: It's gorgeous.

692
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've been asked this a million times before.

693
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: What's your favorite Carol?

694
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: Not again?

695
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 1: I know first, Noel, Oh no, I'm serious. Really, Oh

696
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: Daddy is going to be wrapped.

697
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 2: I meant that now.

698
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: Okay, You've got an Order of Australia about five years ago.

699
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: How did that happen and how does it happen?

700
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 2: I got it for services across.

701
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 1: All media and performing arts.

702
00:35:55,000 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, performing arts. But you don't if if that was

703
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 2: what you mean. It's great that I've been able to

704
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 2: have some success across different areas. But I really think

705
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: that when people nominate you, they have a really good

706
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 2: look at you. And I think it's a lot to

707
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 2: do with how much input you have into the community.

708
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: And you, my friend, have a lot almost I don't

709
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: know how you have the hours in the day that

710
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: to that level.

711
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 2: I possibly say yes to too many things.

712
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: I'm probably lucky about that because you're doing this podcast.

713
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: The Yeah, I'm involved with quite a lot, and.

714
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: I have seen you I do. I used to live

715
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: in Sydney and so every Christmas I do the Selbos

716
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: and either my mum or dad did fly up and

717
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 1: we do the Salvos together on Christmas Day. It's the

718
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,720
Speaker 1: best environment well.

719
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 2: We I'm hoping we're going to be able to do

720
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: my final show on AW this year from the Citadel

721
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: up the top of Burk Street.

722
00:36:58,920 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: You've got to do it.

723
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: We've done when I was doing Afternoons, We've done it

724
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 2: from there the last two or three years.

725
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: Oh perfect.

726
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 2: And you get all people in, some of them who

727
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: don't have connection with family. We give them Christmas Lunch.

728
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: It's beautiful.

729
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: And one thing I learned about getting involved with the

730
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 1: Salvos and working at the Christmas Day lunch is although

731
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: Christmas is such a wonderful time for family and connection,

732
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: it can also be confronting for a lot of people

733
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: as well. And so it's so important, makes the carols

734
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: so important, it makes all these things that we can

735
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: do for the community so important, don't you.

736
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: Think because some of those some of the people find

737
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: Christmas extremely stressful. Because if you're in a situation in

738
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: life where you actually don't have family or friends and

739
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 2: they for from the middle of November, keep hearing Christmas.

740
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 2: It's great, it's fantastic. Well now it's not not for some.

741
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: Not for some, And that's I reckon as well, because

742
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: I'm thirty five now and I probably have my first

743
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 1: Selvo's Christmas, volunteering at Selo's Christmas when I was thirty.

744
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: And I think until you thirty, you kind of think

745
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: you're invincible and you think you're a bit immortal, and

746
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: you're like everything's peaches. And I remember that moment. I

747
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: was like, oh, wow, I've had a very blessed life,

748
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: Like how lucky that I've been able to enjoy all

749
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: my Christmas is. And that's why I think, Yeah, I

750
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: don't know, we're very very lucky. And in Australia, we're very,

751
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 1: very very lucky.

752
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 2: Yes, right through this whole COVID thing. When you look

753
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: around the world, Oh yeah, it's to be here, yeah,

754
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 2: and to be in the position we now are in,

755
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 2: it's pretty.

756
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: Good, big time, big time Mega. We're very much the

757
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: lucky country. Right now, I have another radio question. I'm

758
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: just gonna, like I said, oldest, I've made two too

759
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: much research on you that I got so nervous that

760
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: I knew that I'd end up asking you questions that

761
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: don't aren't like chronological. Now, that's fine, that suits me,

762
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: good good. Well, it's actually it's really daunting interviewing you

763
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: because you're it's usually the foots on the other the

764
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: shoes on the other foot show are you oh good good? Okay?

765
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 1: So you've interviewed so many amazing people, both I presume,

766
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: both on the news, but more more so with radio.

767
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: And I saw you do an interview with Beach Boys,

768
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 1: Joel Legerton, the ab Fab Girls when they bought their movie,

769
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: And has there been anyone You're like, Oh, they're a legend,

770
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: and they're a legend off the mic as well.

771
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 2: Yes. Actually, when I think back sometimes I go back

772
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,919
Speaker 2: through photos that have been taking the studio buddy. Hell, yeah,

773
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 2: there's so many people. Yeah, You've reminded me of a

774
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: couple that I'd forgotten about.

775
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: Some of these are on YouTube, so they've been filmed. Yes,

776
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: Cat Stevens, Oh my goodness. He came into the studio

777
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 1: because of his religion. He needed to have his wife

778
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: sitting near him or within.

779
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 2: Whatever. She just sat there, which I usually can't stand

780
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: someone bring someone else into the studio who's not actually

781
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 2: a part of it. He was just mesmerizing.

782
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: I mean also the voice, let's voice.

783
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 2: Everything about him and I know it's I know it's

784
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 2: there are parts of his life that have been where

785
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 2: people are annoyed at him. Excuse me, but he is

786
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 2: completely engaging.

787
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: My mum when she was she would have been. It

788
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 1: was while he was still Cat Stevens because he's changed

789
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: his name, hasn't he with his religion use of Islam?

790
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: And so my mum went to one of his concerts

791
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: many many years ago and she said, that's a concert

792
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: that changed my life. He's one of those people, isn't he.

793
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: Yes, he's peaceful. Yeah, there's something calming about him. But

794
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 2: mind you, I did feel also under their control in

795
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 2: one other interview with someone who's quite different to that,

796
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Edelson, really and I felt like I wasn't getting

797
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: the answers that I wanted. But he I can understand

798
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 2: why he's been so successful in business because he takes

799
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 2: control of the situation there.

800
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: So in that moment, did you just.

801
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 2: Bloody yellow suits he wore at the Melbourne Cap Carnival

802
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 2: feeding him? What's that about?

803
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: I remember? I remember? But did you in that moment

804
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: when you were like, Okay, I don't have the reins here,

805
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: did you just kind of go well, I'm just going

806
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 1: to have to go with it.

807
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 2: With Cat Stevens, it was just a pleasure he was giving,

808
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 2: he was calming, he was whatever, amazing as against Killian Murphy.

809
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 2: Really sorry with Jeffrey Edilson, he just wasn't going to

810
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: answer any question straight And can I get sued for this?

811
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: He just he controlled the situation and I didn't have time.

812
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 2: Where was short on time. I didn't have time to

813
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: try and go deeper.

814
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: You just mentioned Killian Murphy and I just got very excited.

815
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 2: Yes, many do what came into three? I w when

816
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 2: we're in South Melbourne, which you remember, Yes, And he

817
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 2: obviously was sick of doing the pr because these people

818
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: you don't realize it, which you just spot them on

819
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 2: you see them on a Today Show or a Sunrise

820
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 2: and they're doing hundreds. Rod Stewart I spoke to. I

821
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 2: was the last interview with Rod Stewart. He had been

822
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 2: sitting in his home studio for about eleven hours.

823
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: Do you remember the heath Ledger Koshi debacle where heath

824
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: Ledge appealed to Mandarin in the middle of the interview

825
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: and Australia there was an uproar about heath Ledger being

826
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: disrespectful and he came out later and said, I was

827
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 1: back to back interviews. I just wanted to eat something.

828
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: I needed to quickly eat something, and it was a

829
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: kind of taken the wrong way.

830
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 2: Yes, but they it's all that and it's only the

831
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 2: real I'm sure Killy Murphy's find out graduate. He sat

832
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 2: in the studio and watched Sky News on the monitor.

833
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: He didn't look at me once and kept giving me, yeah,

834
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: it's a it's a good scene. Not really, yeah, well,

835
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: you know, And then he had the audacity to say,

836
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: have you seen this movie?

837
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: Oh?

838
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 2: And I'd seen it. I'd suffered through. It was one

839
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: of his early ones, and it wasn't very.

840
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: Good because I the thing with him and quite a

841
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 1: few other actors, they see themselves as artists and they're

842
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: for the whole media gambit that comes with it, and

843
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: the press and the pr A lot of people aren't.

844
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: They don't enjoy that bit.

845
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 2: Oh, I can understand that, and that might be and

846
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 2: the the how strenuous it is, just being asked the

847
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 2: same questions all day.

848
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I asked you what your Favoritekarral was, So

849
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:23,439
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's fine.

850
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine. I'm not doing forty three of these today.

851
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. Mentally, yeah, I think we don't realize.

852
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 2: Once You've been interviewed by Lola Perry. You don't need

853
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 2: to be interviewed by anyone else.

854
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: There's there's my sound grab, there's.

855
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: Do you want me to do? Repeat it?

856
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: Oh, you're amazing. Honestly, you are so so amazing. Okay,

857
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: I've got a couple more questions that I know. I

858
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: am so aware of the time and it's just flying

859
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 1: with you. Okay, two more things. First of all, I've

860
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: heard you say something that got me so inspired, and

861
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: you said I don't have right, No, I don't. Can

862
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: you explain explain that a little bit? Because that I

863
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: love that, I've got that feeling. I love it, but

864
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: I do have fear of regret, like I live going. Oh,

865
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to have fear. I'm going to jump

866
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 1: towards that scary thing.

867
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 2: I think there are a lot of people who could

868
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: do a lot of things who don't do it because

869
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: they're scared of failing. Yeah, I've got a family member

870
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 2: who I would love to have had go on some

871
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 2: of the television shows that the idol or whatever it's

872
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 2: never hasn't happened, it won't ever happen, could be a superstar.

873
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: And I never discussed it with them. I'm not even

874
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 2: saying if they're male or female. But I've never discussed

875
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: it because I realized that there are lots of people

876
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: who won't put themselves out there for things. If I

877
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 2: hadn't put myself out there for young tellent time, even

878
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 2: though I was desperately shy and new faces, none of

879
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: this would have happened. So but you do have to

880
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: be prepared. Some opportunities come along. Because when I started

881
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 2: doing Keino, suddenly people saw me talking and by chance

882
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 2: the people who were running three GL too long running

883
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 2: the radio station, they went, oh, you can actually talk

884
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 2: in my ninety second segments. Here the numbers, good night.

885
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 2: But they said, oh, he might be all right to

886
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: do some radio. So I started hosting mornings at three GL.

887
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 2: Had to learn how to.

888
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: Panel, and mornings is a very early start, isn't No.

889
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 2: Mornings was like eight thirty, Well that's okay. But then

890
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: Keino was happening. Then suddenly I was on the radio.

891
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: This is all music at this point, and then three

892
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 2: MP rang me. So we came to Melbourne. That went

893
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 2: really well there, but I always wanted to do talk.

894
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: But you've got to be ready when you get the opportunity.

895
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: There've been a lot of singers who had a bit

896
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: of a crack at radio and failed miserably. Really yeah,

897
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 2: because they think it's all about them and it's not.

898
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: It's about the listener.

899
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: I love that. So basically your goal every time you

900
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 1: go on is to give back to listener, hear the listener,

901
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: and inform the listener. Is that kind of even.

902
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: When you're disagreeing with them.

903
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, you've got it. You must have the patience

904
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: of a saint. Then.

905
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 2: I am a very impatient person in many areas of life.

906
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 2: But there are some things I'm very patient with.

907
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: And is this where you mentioned earlier when you were

908
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: younger with the young talent times off, it was your

909
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: drive that carried you there? Has it been your drive

910
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: that's been able to get you to that point of

911
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,919
Speaker 1: going Yeah, I was shy. I can feel the fear,

912
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: but I'm going to do it anyway. Is that the drive?

913
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 2: Ah? Yes, yes it is. I just wish I could

914
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 2: have got over some of that earlier in life.

915
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: It sounds like at fifteen, though, that's a year you're

916
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: an a type personality. You've got You're doing good.

917
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: I had the skinniest most horrible, and I still have

918
00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 2: them legs. I wasn't confident about myself, but.

919
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: That's a lot of people. Yeah, even for me, Like

920
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: I know, I sound really confident, but I batter with

921
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: my confidence all the time. And I think as well.

922
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: In media, you're kind of forced to do that on

923
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: a very concentrated you're very hyper aware of yourself, yes,

924
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: and so that confidence you need to somehow have you back.

925
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: It's a tricky balance. Thank you for that one. That

926
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: was my notebook of because I yeah, my goal is

927
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 1: to live without regret. That's one of my mottos. Good,

928
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: So thank you.

929
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: It's I just feel like we I've met in life.

930
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 2: I've met a lot of people who give the impression

931
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: that they're far better than what they actually are. And

932
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 2: you get a lot of other people who have that

933
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: lingering doubt. So it stops them. Yeah, I think you

934
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:51,240
Speaker 2: go with something.

935
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's okay to feel it out. But yeah,

936
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: you've got to have the drive that, like you said,

937
00:48:55,680 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: propels you forward. So the next one to talk to

938
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: you when this is my last question, I promised.

939
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 2: My friend I watch to sell me. It's time to

940
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 2: get moving.

941
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet. Thanks for that, okay, work ethic because

942
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 1: you've kind of you've touched on it already, like you've

943
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: there was obviously a period of your life and I

944
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: think it probably is a constant where you've worked that

945
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: seven days a week and kind of knowing what you

946
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: wanted from quite a young age and being like, well,

947
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: I'm just going to go for it. Also knowing I

948
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: really want to work in radio, I really want to

949
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: And how much of it obviously a lot of it

950
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: is skill set and a lot of it is talent,

951
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 1: like your voice is phenomenal, and then there has to

952
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: be another bit that's work ethic, right, Yes, how much

953
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: would you say it? Like, how much would you say

954
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: is work ethic?

955
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 2: A lot?

956
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot.

957
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 2: There are a lot of people in my our industry

958
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 2: who want back and have everyone adore them. You've just

959
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 2: got to work, You've got to work. I'm reading a

960
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,760
Speaker 2: book at the moment called Catch of That the people

961
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 2: who started Catch, Yeah, Catch of the Day and Catch.

962
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: I'll put it in the show notes.

963
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 2: I'll find goop on the Libwitch Libowitz brothers. Well, they've

964
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 2: written a book and it's just saying exactly how it's been,

965
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 2: not how clever am I it's been bloody hard work.

966
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 2: These are people who started off going to markets. They

967
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 2: were getting there at four am, so they got the

968
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 2: best spot. Now they turn over hundreds of millions of

969
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 2: dollars a year, So it's working hard. It's not always

970
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 2: going to pay off, but it has to pay off

971
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 2: in some way.

972
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Do you know Nova host him Blackwell? Yes, So

973
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: I had him on and he talked a lot about

974
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: John Laws, him being an inspiration, and I said, how

975
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: much is talent? How much heart work? And he goes,

976
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: talent might get you in the door. Granted, He's like,

977
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: so I might hear you somewhere and go, I'm going

978
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: to give this guy a shot. And he's like, but

979
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: if you want to keep it, if you want to

980
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: stay there, that's all hard work, which I love.

981
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: If John Laws is still on air, Bob Rogers and

982
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 2: Sydney just retired, I think it pushing up ninety.

983
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 1: Is there one thing as well, just with radio and TV.

984
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: Is there a difference in because the pace feels different.

985
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Radio you have no idea what's coming next? Talk radio?

986
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 2: Talk radio I'm talking about you have no idea. You

987
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 2: don't know if the next caller, the last couple of

988
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 2: weeks on air, we've just had a couple of callers

989
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 2: that have said things that are just so wrong, so bad,

990
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 2: so amusing, telling me to go and multiply talking about

991
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 2: sexual things. You don't know what's going to.

992
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: Come and how do you handle.

993
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 2: Television is usually very structured and can be.

994
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: Edited and what right, And they've got even Live to

995
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 1: Air has got usually a little delay so they can

996
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: bleep if they need to bleep.

997
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got seven seconds.

998
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: Wow. I love that. I love knowing that.

999
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm doing nights. You get a whole difference.

1000
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 2: It's a whole different vibe.

1001
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, because people are up late as well, because is

1002
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: it eight to midnight.

1003
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 2: Till midnight and not when footy's on the Footies on first,

1004
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 2: but a till midnight for six months of the year,

1005
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 2: which is great, and then a till midnight for most

1006
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: of each week when the foot's on.

1007
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: And I know you're a footy man, I know you're

1008
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: a cat.

1009
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 2: I know wore too long, the greatest team of all.

1010
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 1: I've seen you do one of the carols at half

1011
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: the crowd boots. This guy is game. Okay, quickly, what's next.

1012
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: I know you've got an album coming out in April.

1013
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 2: The album's coming out in April through Sony Music. A

1014
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 2: chance meeting in a lift. Really we're on the Sunshine Coast.

1015
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 2: A whole lot of things that happened, I said to

1016
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 2: my wife and ed on the way into Maruci door.

1017
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 2: I said, look, there's been a whole lot of bizarre

1018
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 2: things happening. That makes me feel like it's time to

1019
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 2: do another record now. We weren't supposed to be there

1020
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 2: in January. We were supposed to be there last September

1021
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 2: and we had an illness in the family couldn't go.

1022
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 2: So here we are at the time. We weren't supposed

1023
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 2: to be there. I booked at the hotel, walking to

1024
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 2: the lift, and the fellow in the lift says, Dennis,

1025
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 2: how are you? I thought, right, he said, Dennis Handlin. Ah,

1026
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 2: he's the boss ofsonian Music.

1027
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.

1028
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 2: So within ground floor to third he said, why aren't

1029
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,439
Speaker 2: we recording you? I said, I don't know. He said

1030
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 2: it will happen, And I didn't have long enough to think, well,

1031
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 2: is that just left talk or he's a lovely man.

1032
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 2: I've known him forever, hadn't seen him for twenty five

1033
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 2: years and Within forty minutes, he had two of their

1034
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 2: executives ring me, I love this, and then I've I've

1035
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 2: started recording the album. It's become five tracks of collaborations

1036
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 2: Brian Kad, John, Paul Young Vicker and Linda Marusha and

1037
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 2: we're doing a John English track. And because John's obviously

1038
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 2: no longer with us, his son's going to play the

1039
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 2: guitar guitar solos on it. So that's all happened this

1040
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 2: year and that's coming out. It's like sixties and seventies songs.

1041
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 2: Feel good. It's exactly what I used to do before

1042
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 2: I got known as this became known as this big

1043
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 2: belladeer thing. It's the music I used to do. Awesome,

1044
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 2: and then this idea for the Christmas single Yeah comes

1045
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 2: out about seven weeks ago when it was released on

1046
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 2: the sixth of November. That same day of the release,

1047
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 2: Carol's rang me, Kate Carol Halliday rang me and said

1048
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 2: we want you to do your new duet. That was

1049
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 2: the day of the release. These things are bizarre and

1050
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 2: I don't believe in fate, at least I didn't.

1051
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: Oh, I think you got to do now? Yeah. I

1052
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: have to, especially with creative things. It's like this is

1053
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: the there's a business side to what you do, but

1054
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: there's also a creative and kind of like heart driven

1055
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: side and that that you got to trust.

1056
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 2: Well, yes, this is like it's meant to be.

1057
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: Well, I cannot wait, and I can tell everybody listening

1058
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: the Christmas single is officially out.

1059
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 2: Now.

1060
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 1: I'm going to put in the show notes so people

1061
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: can just click and listen.

1062
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 2: Thank you. It's music forever dot com dot are you,

1063
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 2: And there's a few bonus Christmas tracks and money going

1064
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 2: to Salvation Army Christmas.

1065
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I'll make sure that that's the right link

1066
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: that goes in. Dennis Walter, you are an incredible human

1067
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: being and you have totally filled up my cup today.

1068
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: You've really inspired me to live without regret, to work hard,

1069
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: and to make my dreams of reality. So thank you

1070
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:43,479
Speaker 1: from the bottom of my heart.

1071
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1072
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 1: Honored my friend me too. That's a wrap on another

1073
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always, thank you to our guests,

1074
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: and let's continue the conversation on Instagram. I'm at Yamo Lollaberry.

1075
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: This potty my word for podcast is available on all

1076
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,720
Speaker 1: streaming platforms. I'd love it if you could subscribe, rape

1077
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: and comment, and of course spread the love.