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Speaker 2: Let's get into it.
Speaker 3: She's on the Money, She's on the Money.
Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome on the Money the Podcast Millennials who
Speaker 2: want financial freedom. Welcome back to another one of our
Speaker 2: money darries where I get the absolute pleasure of talking
Speaker 2: to one of our incredible She's on the Money community
Speaker 2: members all about their journey. Let's jump straight into it,
Speaker 2: because this week I got a message and it went
Speaker 2: like this. Dear Victoria, I was widowed at thirty four
Speaker 2: after my husband died suddenly and unexpectedly. We had just
Speaker 2: built our dream home and were planning a family. Overnight,
Speaker 2: I went from happily married in a new home with
Speaker 2: two good incomes, to widowed in a financial crisis, relying
Speaker 2: on sanlink and three weeks pregnant. With the help of
Speaker 2: good financial preparation and a solid emergency fund and a
Speaker 2: stubborn resilience streak in me, three and a half years on,
Speaker 2: I'm happy but tired, solo mama to a beautiful three
Speaker 2: year old daughter. I earned a six figure salary after
Speaker 2: I was headhunted and am thriving financially. Thanks Victoria for
Speaker 2: reassuring me that it's okay to use my emergency fund
Speaker 2: to help me through this major life emergency. Your podcasts
Speaker 2: were a push I needed money. Diarist, What the heck?
Speaker 2: Look what you've done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds a lot when you read it out
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: That's heavy and also just like inspirational at the same time.
Speaker 2: And I just have so many questions. Let's dive into
Speaker 2: the first question that I ask everyone on the show
Speaker 2: Money direst If I asked you to give yourself a
Speaker 2: money grade, what would you grade your habits from A
Speaker 2: through to F?
Speaker 3: Right now, I'd say A B plus?
Speaker 2: Who a B plus?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: Now, obviously that was a very heavy entry. We're gonna
Speaker 2: need to know more, my friend, can you tell me
Speaker 2: a little bit more about your story?
Speaker 3: So I'll start out with mine and my late husband's story.
Speaker 3: We met in high school. Oh cute. Yeah, so I
Speaker 3: was eleven and he was twelve when we first met,
Speaker 3: and we were friends throughout high school. Yeah, started dating
Speaker 3: when I was fifteen, he was sixteen, And yeah, we
Speaker 3: went through life together. We grew up together. We bought
Speaker 3: our first home at twenty one, so we always worked
Speaker 3: hard and saved. Bought our second home at twenty five.
Speaker 3: We got married at twenty five. Around that time was
Speaker 3: just hectic. I was finishing my PhD. We were working
Speaker 3: multiple jobs each and yeah, buying and selling homes. And
Speaker 3: then we decided No, we'd been looking for probably a year,
Speaker 3: every weekend looking for our drain property and couldn't find it.
Speaker 3: So we decided to get out of the property market.
Speaker 3: Sold both homes, and with the equity, we went on
Speaker 3: a trip around the world.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, genius.
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably not the wisest financial decision, but I wouldn't
Speaker 3: change anything.
Speaker 2: I was about to say. Now we know what the
Speaker 2: outcome was. Like, that's such a special memory and time
Speaker 2: that you had together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was amazing. Then we decided that we wanted
Speaker 3: to start a family, so we were looking again for
Speaker 3: the dream home and we bought acreage in regional Victoria
Speaker 3: and built. So we spent over five years planning and
Speaker 3: building the dream and it was finally built in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty and then we moved in right when COVID hit.
Speaker 3: And then my husband died six weeks after we moved in.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, so I obviously found myself in a
Speaker 3: bit of a financial crisis. That's our story, my money
Speaker 3: story growing up. My parents divorced when I was young.
Speaker 3: I was just three when they divorced, and reflecting now,
Speaker 3: it's really interesting to see how different people view finances
Speaker 3: and money. And my dad was very good with money,
Speaker 3: but he always prioritized money and work over us kids.
Speaker 3: My mum left with basically nothing. She always jokes that
Speaker 3: she got the better end of the bargain she got
Speaker 3: out with us kids. So growing up, we were raised
Speaker 3: by my mom and stepdad on a farm. We didn't
Speaker 3: have a lot, but we never felt that we missed out.
Speaker 3: So I learned a lot from both my dad and
Speaker 3: my mum how to be frugal, how to manage money.
Speaker 3: But also, yeah, a lot of good habits for my
Speaker 3: dad as well. But I think the main thing I
Speaker 3: learned from dad was money's important to live, but it's
Speaker 3: not everything, and around prioritizing family and other experiences over money.
Speaker 3: Money's just that means to live our lives. And sadly
Speaker 3: he didn't get that because he did prioritize money over
Speaker 3: us kids.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to hear that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's one of the key takeaways for me,
Speaker 3: and that's prioritizing family now and especially after my husband dying,
Speaker 3: especially after seeing how much he's missed out on.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. How old was your husband?
Speaker 3: He was thirty four.
Speaker 2: He was a baby, still so young. And in your
Speaker 2: letter into me, you said, obviously this changed dramatically overnight,
Speaker 2: and you were three weeks pregnant at that time. Did
Speaker 2: you know you were three weeks page?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So we had been trying to start a family,
Speaker 3: and i'd had early miscarriage. This time around, I was
Speaker 3: working from home because it was COVID and i'd finished work.
Speaker 3: I was so tired and I couldn't understand why. And
Speaker 3: I was so tired, and I had an online exercise
Speaker 3: class I had to attend, and I thought I just
Speaker 3: can't do it. So I went out to talk to
Speaker 3: my husband and say, you know, dinner's nearly ready, come
Speaker 3: in and I couldn't find him, and I tried calling him.
Speaker 3: Long story short, ended up finding him in the shed
Speaker 3: of our property. He was unresponsive, so I gave CPR.
Speaker 3: I called for the neighbor to come over and we
Speaker 3: called the ambulance but it was too late. Four days later,
Speaker 3: I just knew after he died, I just had a feeling.
Speaker 3: I just knew.
Speaker 2: You were like, this is going to happen, Like, of
Speaker 2: course it's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I went to the doctors and the doctor said,
Speaker 3: you know, it's too early to confirm, just wait. But
Speaker 3: I couldn't wait. So I took a pregnancy test and
Speaker 3: took another one.
Speaker 2: That's what I would have done, Like when I was
Speaker 2: getting pregnant, I was like doing forgnancy desk before they
Speaker 2: were due. Like, I was like, I'm going to find
Speaker 2: out the second this is a possibility. I knew that feeling. Well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I was three weeks pregnant and we now
Speaker 3: have a beautiful almost three year old daughter.
Speaker 2: Oh my heart. So we did get to live on
Speaker 2: through her. How beautiful is that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's very much like him.
Speaker 2: Oh that's actually the best. Like, that's so sweet that
Speaker 2: you still get I guess a piece of him around.
Speaker 2: And now, what does life look like? You've obviously gone
Speaker 2: through all of that and come out the other side,
Speaker 2: the other side of the story you've written. And he said,
Speaker 2: I earned a six figure salary. I was head hunted,
Speaker 2: Like this is a complete flip. You're thriving. Tell me
Speaker 2: about life. What does it look like today?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So it was obviously the most difficult time in
Speaker 3: my life after my husband died, you know, even just
Speaker 3: dealing with the death admin and just trying to function
Speaker 3: when you're grieving. I think the shock took about nine
Speaker 3: months to wear off. But during that time, you know,
Speaker 3: obviously I was pregnant, so I had to plan ahead
Speaker 3: and think what is this going to look like. I
Speaker 3: had an incredibly supportive employer, so I ended up getting
Speaker 3: eight months paid leave from them, oh wow, before taking
Speaker 3: maternity leave. So I think I went back to work
Speaker 3: for a couple of weeks, but they were amazing. I
Speaker 3: took twelve months maternity leave paid that was at half
Speaker 3: pay and plus using annual leave, and then I just
Speaker 3: wasn't ready to go back to work, and so thankfully,
Speaker 3: because of my emergency account, I was able to extend
Speaker 3: my maternity leave by six months and I took that
Speaker 3: completely unpaid, and I paid myself a wage every fortnight. Still, yeah,
Speaker 3: life looks very different now. I did end up going
Speaker 3: back to my work, and I loved my work. I
Speaker 3: loved the work I did, and I love my employer.
Speaker 3: They were great, but it just didn't feel right. I
Speaker 3: think going back to where I was when my husband
Speaker 3: was alive, it was just really hard.
Speaker 2: You need to change, You need to shake it up
Speaker 2: and move on from a period that wasn't, I guess,
Speaker 2: the best period of your life.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I wasn't looking for work, but I was
Speaker 3: just kind of going in doing what I needed to do.
Speaker 3: And then I was contacted by my current employer. They'd
Speaker 3: actually heard about me through work and through people we
Speaker 3: used to work with, and they said, oh, you know,
Speaker 3: just reaching out seeing if you're interested. We need someone
Speaker 3: with your skill set. Do you want to have a chat?
Speaker 3: I thought, well, what do I have to lose?
Speaker 2: I might as well, Yeah, what's a chat?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So I took the plunge, and you know, I
Speaker 3: was walking away from a really secure job. I knew
Speaker 3: it was decent money. But I haven't looked back. I've
Speaker 3: been there for almost a year and yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so glad. And it's kind of like at
Speaker 2: that point in time, knowing that someone kind of head
Speaker 2: hunted you, that was probably a confidence boost as well
Speaker 2: that you definitely deserved. You were like, you know what,
Speaker 2: I've still got it. Like, I'm still here, I'm still thriving,
Speaker 2: and now you have a six figure salary.
Speaker 3: Yes, So I was earning well and when they approach me,
Speaker 3: they said, this is what we can pay you, and
Speaker 3: I said, no, I might as well stay where I
Speaker 3: am and so I negotiated up.
Speaker 2: Oh and she negotiated it as well, of course she did,
Speaker 2: what a queen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, they offered me an amount and I said,
Speaker 3: is that including super or plus super? And they said
Speaker 3: that's inclusive and I said, no, I'll take that figure
Speaker 3: plus super.
Speaker 1: Get it.
Speaker 3: So I'm currently on one hundred and thirty nine thousand
Speaker 3: plus Super plus a nine percent incentive payment, which is
Speaker 3: like a bonus annually. But I work part time, so
Speaker 3: that's pro writer.
Speaker 2: But that's okay. And I'm assuming you work pro riter
Speaker 2: because you have a small human being that takes up
Speaker 2: a lot of your time.
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, and also by choice. Eventually I will increase
Speaker 3: my hours, but at the moment, this works well for
Speaker 3: my life. And again, I'm going to prioritize my daughter
Speaker 3: over work or anything.
Speaker 2: Else one hundred percent. I love that you're in that
Speaker 2: position now. And what does life look like moving forward?
Speaker 2: Like your daughter you said was three, once she's at school, Like,
Speaker 2: where's life going to lead you?
Speaker 3: So I have repartnered. I repartnered about eighteen months ago.
Speaker 3: Oh good. Yeah. My new partner's also widow. So I
Speaker 3: was actually interviewed about my husband's death because my husband
Speaker 3: died suddenly and unexpectedly and we don't actually know what
Speaker 3: caused his death.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow.
Speaker 3: So he saw the interview that I gave and reached
Speaker 3: out to me and he said his wife died the
Speaker 3: same way.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So we connected that way, and turns out we
Speaker 3: were both part of the same widow group.
Speaker 2: You're gonna make me cry, you can't. It's like your
Speaker 2: partners have brought you two together.
Speaker 3: Yeap. We've recently, very recent as in a couple of
Speaker 3: weeks ago. We've just bought a house together and we've
Speaker 3: moved in, so blended family. He has children, yes, well gorgeous.
Speaker 3: So we both sold our homes and brought together and
Speaker 3: moved in together.
Speaker 2: Now I'm so happy for you. That is literally such
Speaker 2: good news. Like I mean, it doesn't change how heartbreaking
Speaker 2: everything else is, but even and the idea that you're
Speaker 2: with someone who fully comprehends what that grieving process looks like,
Speaker 2: it can be incredibly supportive having that and I'm sure
Speaker 2: you're a part of that group because it is hard
Speaker 2: and now you have someone who just gets it, like, Oh,
Speaker 2: I'm so happy for you. Money, diarrest, I want to
Speaker 2: ask so many more questions. Though you've told us what
Speaker 2: you earn, what you do, I want to know now
Speaker 2: what are your big money goals? What are you currently
Speaker 2: working towards? Like you just said, you've bought a house,
Speaker 2: which is so exciting. What else is on the horizon?
Speaker 3: So short term? The house that we've bought is an
Speaker 3: older house, but it's good. It's on acreage, it's in
Speaker 3: a beautiful area, not far out of Melbourne. But it
Speaker 3: does need quite a bit of work. So short term,
Speaker 3: we're looking to do quite a few improvements to the
Speaker 3: house and property. We've budgeted around two hundred and fifty
Speaker 3: thousand for that, so i'd like to have that in
Speaker 3: savings ready to go.
Speaker 1: Ye.
Speaker 3: Hopefully plan for a baby this year, but we'll see
Speaker 3: what happens.
Speaker 2: How exciting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so i'd like to plan just be able to
Speaker 3: take twelve months off, yeah, fair, and then long term
Speaker 3: obviously to continue to invest in myself and continue to
Speaker 3: learn and educate myself, but also to increase investments to
Speaker 3: build long term wealth and just to create that passive
Speaker 3: income later in life, and also to build a nest
Speaker 3: egg for my daughter for when she's older.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I love this just knowing that you're
Speaker 2: on this trajectory and everything is like working out for
Speaker 2: the better. Like you're just in this place where you are.
Speaker 2: Literally you didn't lie. You said you're thriving financially. I'm like, yes,
Speaker 2: you are, Queen. I love this. Let's go to a
Speaker 2: really quick break on the flip side. I want to
Speaker 2: talk more about this property. I want to talk about
Speaker 2: investments and debts and good and bad habits. So guys
Speaker 2: don't go anywhere all right, money Diarist, we are back.
Speaker 2: I am so grateful that you're sharing your story. I
Speaker 2: feel like this is something that hopefully not that many
Speaker 2: people in our community can resonate with, Like I just
Speaker 2: hope that this isn't a story that they go that's me.
Speaker 2: But I also I just think it's so important to
Speaker 2: be sharing stories like this because it can happen. And
Speaker 2: thirty four years old is so young, Like, no one
Speaker 2: plans for that. It's always that's the stuff that happens
Speaker 2: on the news, that's the stuff that happens to other people.
Speaker 2: Were you guys financially prepared when this happened? Like did
Speaker 2: you have insurances and stuff organized?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: What did the I guess admin side of life look like?
Speaker 3: Yeah, good question. And this is something that I really
Speaker 3: want to stress to listeners, the importance of being prepared
Speaker 3: and having a good will. Because we grew up together,
Speaker 3: we shared all our finances, everything we had, we earned together.
Speaker 3: When we bought our property, we went through the Barefoot
Speaker 3: Investor method and read that and from there I started
Speaker 3: reading different books and listening to podcasts.
Speaker 2: So slippery slope, that's financial literacy thing, isn't it.
Speaker 3: It is interesting it's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So thankfully my husband did have life insurance and it
Speaker 3: was enough to cover the mortgage.
Speaker 2: Oh good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was very grateful for We just updated will,
Speaker 3: so everything was good to go. But in saying that,
Speaker 3: because my husband's death was unexpected and there was no
Speaker 3: known cause of death, it was a reportable death to
Speaker 3: the coroner, so we had to go through the full
Speaker 3: coronial process, which took about eighteen months, and in that
Speaker 3: time you don't get a death certificate until they know
Speaker 3: cause of death, so I had to wait. I think
Speaker 3: it was about eight months. I ended up getting interim
Speaker 3: death certificate from the medical investigation to say his cause
Speaker 3: of death was unascertained. But in that time, keeping in mind,
Speaker 3: I was pregnant and it's just what you needed, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: no idea what the future was going to look like.
Speaker 3: It took about eight months to get that certificate and
Speaker 3: to get the insurance paid out. So I'd contacted our
Speaker 3: bank and they the mortgage of repayments on hold, so
Speaker 3: that was a relief. Oh good, But we owed the
Speaker 3: builders still a lot of money which we were paying ourselves,
Speaker 3: not through the mortgage. Yeah, my husband had an ovated
Speaker 3: car through his name. I ended up negotiating that and
Speaker 3: ended up saving about sixteen thousand dollars from that, so
Speaker 3: I could pay that out, just.
Speaker 2: Get rid of it, get it done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted to keep the car. I didn't want
Speaker 3: to give it away. When I took maternity leave, I
Speaker 3: wasn't getting an income, so I was eligible for single
Speaker 3: parenting payment. I never thought i'd be reliant on centilink.
Speaker 3: We always worked hard and saved well, and.
Speaker 2: I was going to say that would have been really
Speaker 2: confronting as well, like having to go through that process
Speaker 2: and not only having to go through that process and
Speaker 2: be like, wow, I'm relying on sentlink. I never thought
Speaker 2: i'd be there. But even just like the naming convention
Speaker 2: of that payment, being that single parent, that's not what
Speaker 2: identify as, Like, that's not what I wanted.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, I identify as a solo parent.
Speaker 2: But no, I get it as an ex financial advisor,
Speaker 2: like you deal with people in crisis. And even just
Speaker 2: like the way it works, it's heartbreaking. It's like being
Speaker 2: kicked while you're down.
Speaker 3: I was actually thinking about it, and I know this
Speaker 3: is probably opposite to what many people would say. I
Speaker 3: was grateful for the COVID lockdowns because it meant that
Speaker 3: I could just look myself away. And I am quite
Speaker 3: an introverted person, which only came out after my husband died.
Speaker 3: I didn't think I was. But I didn't go anywhere.
Speaker 3: I didn't spend money. So in that time I was
Speaker 3: able to save a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was.
Speaker 3: Able to build my emergency fund back up again. So
Speaker 3: that's currently sitting just over twenty thousand, and I like
Speaker 3: to keep it at that amount.
Speaker 2: Yeah, throughout that time. Please tell me you had a
Speaker 2: really smooth pregnancy. Please tell me you weren't like going
Speaker 2: through like hate she and stuff like this in addition
Speaker 2: to greathing, an addition to doing life admunity, addition to
Speaker 2: sent link and everything else. Like, is there a light
Speaker 2: at the end of the pregnancy tunnel for you? Or
Speaker 2: was it awful?
Speaker 3: Pregnancy wise? It was okay labor and birth And I
Speaker 3: don't want to tell you this because I don't want
Speaker 3: to freak you out, but I nearly died. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: had postpartum hemorrhaging and lost about two and a half
Speaker 3: liters of blood.
Speaker 2: No, that's not what you need.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I went into surgery balling my eyes out after
Speaker 3: they'd done. I think it was four Code pinks and
Speaker 3: two Code blues on me, and I've got my daughter
Speaker 3: sitting with me, and I remember I was just hysterical
Speaker 3: and I was convinced I was going to die. And
Speaker 3: I even said to the anethesis before I went in,
Speaker 3: I said, no, I don't want my daughter to be
Speaker 3: an orphan. And I can laugh about it now because
Speaker 3: I know I was just a bit delirious.
Speaker 2: No, but that's also really valid. I'm sorry, Like, that's
Speaker 2: exactly how I feel like any reasonable person would have
Speaker 2: been having that many Code pinks and that many cod
Speaker 2: blues and then going into surgery after having given birth,
Speaker 2: Like that's a terrifying experience. We tried to downplay that
Speaker 2: and be like, oh, you know, in hindsight, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: in hindsight, that was traumatic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was traumatic. I have very supportive family, though,
Speaker 3: and my mum and sister were both there and very
Speaker 3: good friends. So yeah, I got through.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm so glad, And.
Speaker 3: Now we have a beautiful almost three year old little
Speaker 3: terror so cute.
Speaker 2: Such a good age though, all right, tell me more.
Speaker 2: Obviously you've got property, and you've just purchased a new one.
Speaker 2: But do you have any investments. If so, what are they.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, my partner and I both owned our homes outright,
Speaker 3: so when we sold, the property we bought was of
Speaker 3: higher value, but we still had about five hundred thousand
Speaker 3: left over from the sale with the properties. So that's
Speaker 3: currently sitting. I know it shouldn't be, but it's just
Speaker 3: sitting in a bank account until we figure out what
Speaker 3: to do with it long term. But we will be
Speaker 3: looking to invest it after we've used part of it
Speaker 3: towards improvements.
Speaker 2: When you say just in a bank account, Pervy Financial
Speaker 2: Advisory in is like, is it offsetting anything? Is it
Speaker 2: at least in a high interest savings account making a
Speaker 2: tiny bit of money covering its own bar like, No,
Speaker 2: it's just hanging out.
Speaker 3: No, just hanging out.
Speaker 2: And if you're happy with that, I'm happy with that.
Speaker 3: I'm not. And I have been saying to my partner, look,
Speaker 3: we need to break it up because I know the
Speaker 3: government only guarantees up to two hundred and fifty thousand.
Speaker 3: We need to break it up and get into a
Speaker 3: separate high interest savings account. We just haven't got around
Speaker 3: to doing it yet. Life's just being chaotic.
Speaker 2: It's life had mean, you have a three and a
Speaker 2: half year old, your partner also has kids, Like, I
Speaker 2: feel like I'll give you a little bit of leniency here.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So investments, obviously, my super and I have been
Speaker 3: doing this for a long time. I contribute three hundred
Speaker 3: of Fortnite into my super.
Speaker 2: Now you do know what you're doing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's currently sitting around one hundred and seventy two thousand.
Speaker 3: Just after my husband died, we talked about investing, but
Speaker 3: we just didn't know enough. I think we were a
Speaker 3: bit scared to take that step. But I opened up
Speaker 3: a stock Spot robo investing account just because I needed
Speaker 3: something that was easy set and forget. So I've got
Speaker 3: just over forty thousand in that. So each fortnight I
Speaker 3: transfer two hundred and fifty dollars into an online savings account,
Speaker 3: and then when that hits a thousand, I transfer it
Speaker 3: into my investing. That's one thing I'm really proud of
Speaker 3: because that's one thing I have been able to just
Speaker 3: chip away out and say that's consistent. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 3: my own yep. And obviously the money that we've got
Speaker 3: left over from the sale of the properties, we will
Speaker 3: be looking to invest that as well for the long term.
Speaker 2: I love this. And then are there any debts hidden anywhere?
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: I've always had the mindset of if you don't have
Speaker 3: the money there to spend, don't spend it. So the
Speaker 3: way I structure my money is I've got my everyday account,
Speaker 3: which I always liked to have about two thousand dollars
Speaker 3: float in there. I have my spending account, savings, and
Speaker 3: then investing and then emergencies. Obviously we did have a mortgage,
Speaker 3: but that was paid out from my husband's life insurance.
Speaker 3: Never had a car loan, never had a credit card,
Speaker 3: never had after pay. So all right, well, tell us,
Speaker 3: as I guess one of the smartest financial cookies, what
Speaker 3: is your best money habit? Probably my best money habit
Speaker 3: is that I'm good at automating my money. I know
Speaker 3: exactly what comes in what goes out, and I've set
Speaker 3: everything up so bills are automatically paid, all my transfers
Speaker 3: every pay week are paid into the separate accounts. But
Speaker 3: I'm also very frugal, so I don't pay full price
Speaker 3: for anything. Oh as find a bargain and yeah.
Speaker 2: I love that. That is a very good money habit
Speaker 2: to have. Do you have a bad money habit. Like,
Speaker 2: from what you've told me, I feel like there aren't
Speaker 2: that many bad ones. You've made some really good financial decisions.
Speaker 2: But let's dig deep here. What's your worst money habit.
Speaker 3: I've given this a bit of thought, and I think
Speaker 3: it's that I'm probably too rigid with my finances. I
Speaker 3: know the money's there to be spent. I have a
Speaker 3: lot of anxiety around money, and it makes sense from
Speaker 3: what happened my husband dying. But if I don't have
Speaker 3: the money sitting there, I get really anxious. So unless
Speaker 3: that money has been earmarked for something, I'm very hesitant
Speaker 3: to spend it. So I think I need to just
Speaker 3: let go a little bit and let myself spend a
Speaker 3: little bit more.
Speaker 2: That's fair, But it also makes a lot of sense
Speaker 2: that that's the case given your circumstances. I want to know, obviously,
Speaker 2: rogue question at the end. You've got a nearly three
Speaker 2: year old. Is she showing any interest in money?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: How are you planning on teaching her to be as
Speaker 2: good at money management as you are.
Speaker 3: She's not. I think she's probably too young to understand
Speaker 3: the concept.
Speaker 2: I've got a two and a half year old nephew
Speaker 2: and he came up to me the other day and said,
Speaker 2: do you want a latte? And I said yeah, and
Speaker 2: then he tried to charge me fifty dollars for it.
Speaker 2: So I feel like they might not have a good
Speaker 2: hold of what real value is, but like.
Speaker 3: Maybe, yeah, No, she hasn't shown any interest yet, but
Speaker 3: I guess I haven't really pushed that. She does help
Speaker 3: out a lot around the house. She tries to do
Speaker 3: the dishes and she tries to clean.
Speaker 2: Oh that gives me anxiety. Yep, it's not very good.
Speaker 3: But no any advice, so I'm happy to take on board.
Speaker 2: No no advice. I just like asking. I love when
Speaker 2: kids start to understand money as a concept. And even
Speaker 2: my nephew trying to charge me fifty dollars in this
Speaker 2: economy for a latte. I was like, do I get
Speaker 2: oat milk? And he just shook your head and was
Speaker 2: like no. I was like, oh, that's just for cow's milk. Oh, sheez, Louise.
Speaker 2: It is probably gonna be like one hundred dollar latte
Speaker 2: if I ask for any kind of alternative milk. This
Speaker 2: is wild, but kids are yeah, fun, and I'm obviously
Speaker 2: a bit pervy on it at the moment. The situation
Speaker 2: you've been through is horrendous, and I am so sorry
Speaker 2: that you have had to go through this. But I
Speaker 2: also look at it and I'm like, holy Molly, I
Speaker 2: am so proud of where you are now. Like it
Speaker 2: is obviously the worst thing that you can go through
Speaker 2: and then to have come out the other side. And
Speaker 2: even just the way you've written it, You're like, I
Speaker 2: am financially thriving. I'm like, yes, you are, Like I
Speaker 2: like that, you can see that. I love that you've
Speaker 2: found a partner that's supportive. I'm obsessed with the fact
Speaker 2: that you're on a six figure salary and during a
Speaker 2: time that you were probably still grieving pretty hard. There
Speaker 2: you are renegotiating the contract. I'm like, yes, Queen, you
Speaker 2: are as she's on the money, member, I can see you.
Speaker 2: I love this. But if someone is in a situation
Speaker 2: they're like, this is never going to happen to me,
Speaker 2: what would you say, is I guess the one thing
Speaker 2: that they should be looking at beforehand. Obviously we don't
Speaker 2: want this to happen to anyone in our community. But
Speaker 2: like you said before, I'm glad he had his insurances
Speaker 2: and like his will and stuff. But to you, what
Speaker 2: was the thing that helped you through that process the most, I'd.
Speaker 3: Say my family. Obviously they helped me through of course
Speaker 3: knowing that we did have a good will. My situation
Speaker 3: now is a lot more complicated, so we again need
Speaker 3: to get legal advice on how that could work moving forward.
Speaker 3: But also just making sure that we did have enough
Speaker 3: insurances to cover all expenses. So we were lucky. We
Speaker 3: did make sure that we had enough to cover and
Speaker 3: that we only increased the amount of our life insurances
Speaker 3: because we were building, so we needed to make sure
Speaker 3: it would cover the cost of the build. So many
Speaker 3: friends I speak to you now, they don't have a will,
Speaker 3: they don't have life insurance, they have no idea what's
Speaker 3: going on with their super. So yeah, I think I'd
Speaker 3: really like to stress to listeners the importance of making
Speaker 3: sure that you do have your life insurance or your
Speaker 3: personal insurances, you know if it's income protection, disability, and
Speaker 3: making sure that your super is set to binding. Yes,
Speaker 3: And also, yeah, the will, it's probably the most important thing.
Speaker 2: We'll put links in our show notes to make sure
Speaker 2: that everyone can get hold of that. Obviously, I talk
Speaker 2: a lot about the importance of sperances and personal insurances
Speaker 2: and making sure that you set up your will properly.
Speaker 2: And it's not very sexy, like it's not fun to
Speaker 2: have these conversations, and you always like, what's the point. But
Speaker 2: I really do hope that for everyone who takes action
Speaker 2: and actually sets up their life insurances, I really hope
Speaker 2: it's the biggest waste of money. Like I hope that
Speaker 2: it's not something you ever have to rely on, because
Speaker 2: a circumstance like this you wouldn't wish upon anybody. But
Speaker 2: if it does happen, at least you're in the best
Speaker 2: possible position you can be. And I think that that is,
Speaker 2: to me, the most important thing money. I'm obsessed with
Speaker 2: this chat. I'm so so grateful that you wanted to
Speaker 2: share so much of yourself and your partner's journey, and
Speaker 2: getting to learn about you has been beautiful. I do
Speaker 2: want to know, though you seem to have all of
Speaker 2: your finances in order. You said at the start of
Speaker 2: the show, I'm a B plus. What would it take
Speaker 2: someone like you to get to an A plus?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: What does that potentially look like?
Speaker 3: I would say to continue to educate myself around finances,
Speaker 3: and i'd like to maybe step up into big girl investing.
Speaker 2: You are a big girl investing, not through.
Speaker 3: A robo investing platform.
Speaker 2: So actually get an investment platform.
Speaker 3: It is and it's been great for the situation I
Speaker 3: was in. But yeah, I guess learning more about the
Speaker 3: investments and choosing them. But then again, I don't really
Speaker 3: have the time, So I.
Speaker 2: Think that you are investing perfectly fine at the moment,
Speaker 2: like that compound interest. She's just working away in the background.
Speaker 2: I promise you.
Speaker 3: That probably also to start investing for my daughter when
Speaker 3: she reaches twenty one. I want her to have a
Speaker 3: good little nest egg there so she can go out
Speaker 3: and buy property or travel the world if she wants to,
Speaker 3: or do whatever she wants to do.
Speaker 2: I love this.
Speaker 3: Can I just add to the question you asked previously?
Speaker 3: Of course, I'd also just like to stress the importance
Speaker 3: of having that emergency fund.
Speaker 2: Yes, that is a very good addition.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could fall back onto it when I needed it.
Speaker 3: I was really hesitant to tap into it. I didn't
Speaker 3: want to and off for a very long time. I
Speaker 3: was actually binge listening to your podcasts when I stumbled
Speaker 3: across them and In one of them, you did talk
Speaker 3: about emergency funds and the importance of them. I can't
Speaker 3: remember exact wording, but there was just something you said
Speaker 3: and was along the lines of, you know, it's okay
Speaker 3: to use it, and that's what I needed to tell myself,
Speaker 3: that it is okay to use this money, and that
Speaker 3: that's what it's there for, that's what its purpose is,
Speaker 3: and that I could always top it up again when
Speaker 3: I'm in a more financially stable position.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. I think that there seems to be
Speaker 2: this real big block for a lot of people when
Speaker 2: it comes to emergency funds and spending them. They feel
Speaker 2: like they've failed I guess in you know, having an
Speaker 2: emergency fund sitting there, but that's what it's for, to
Speaker 2: be spent in an emergency where you do need to
Speaker 2: support yourself. I'm glad that you found that at that
Speaker 2: point in time, because I'm sure that would have been
Speaker 2: a really hard thing to wrap your head around. But
Speaker 2: I feel like we often do need to give ourselves
Speaker 2: permission to look into that. And I know that I've
Speaker 2: been in circumstances where I'm like, really don't want to
Speaker 2: spend my emergency fund I'm like, but I'm really glad
Speaker 2: I have it because now I don't have to go
Speaker 2: into debt. Now I don't have to be, you know,
Speaker 2: making decisions that I otherwise would have had to make
Speaker 2: if I didn't have access to cash. So I'm glad
Speaker 2: that it helped. That's a good place to leave it,
Speaker 2: Like set up your emergency fund. I don't care who
Speaker 2: you are, what you do, what your plan is. If
Speaker 2: you don't have an emergency fund, you are not putting
Speaker 2: future you first money diarist I said before, this has
Speaker 2: been a beautiful chat. I am blown away by how
Speaker 2: open and honest you have been with us. I'm really
Speaker 2: really grateful to be able to share a story like
Speaker 2: this with our community, because I think it is so
Speaker 2: smart to be able to learn through other people's experiences
Speaker 2: and go, wow, this is really important. I do need
Speaker 2: to get my stuff together. And just knowing that you
Speaker 2: and I sharing this means that there are going to
Speaker 2: be a fair few people that sought out their life
Speaker 2: insurance because of this. I know that it's so impactful.
Speaker 2: So thank you for that, and I can't wait to
Speaker 2: see where you are in five ten years, and you'll
Speaker 2: be thriving even more than you already are.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
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