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Speaker 1: Season two. Colin from Accounts is on Binge their show

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Speaker 1: last year. He stars Harriet Dyer and Patrick bram All.

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Speaker 1: They joined us on Willing Were you right now?

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Speaker 2: We saw you when we.

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Speaker 3: Were releasing season one in Melbourne?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, you're in here with this.

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Speaker 2: You're bloody lovely, was so lovely.

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Speaker 5: And can I just can I just go over what

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Speaker 5: I told you guys when you were in the studio. Truly,

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Speaker 5: Season one of Colin from Accounts was I think one

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Speaker 5: of the best TV shows that was made last year,

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Speaker 5: and I truly truly mean that so much. To know

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Speaker 5: that season two is coming out makes me just so

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Speaker 5: so so excited. But since becoming such a big fan

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Speaker 5: of both of yours from Colin from Accounts, I've obviously

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Speaker 5: been following you guys on Instagram and whatnot, and I've

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Speaker 5: realized that, Harriet, you are a massive procrastinator and this

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Speaker 5: must be very hard to deal with.

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Speaker 2: Pat.

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Speaker 5: I've got some audio here of the two of you,

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Speaker 5: I think collaborating on the script for season two one, so.

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Speaker 2: You couldn't start until I put that up. Now, what

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Speaker 2: are you doing?

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Speaker 3: Booking and tap pants in class for next Tuesday night?

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Speaker 2: Okay, We're we're in the season. Should we put that?

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Speaker 3: I told you I can't start to be fixed on

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Speaker 3: the second light bulb, sort that ship out and tap out.

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Speaker 4: Here working away.

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Speaker 5: Should I be worried about what season two is going

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Speaker 5: to bring given that's been gone on.

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Speaker 2: There's no tap classes in it? Honestly there should be.

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Speaker 2: She did picture tap class? I did.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, it's hard to start. I just want to say

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Speaker 3: it was hard to start season two because season one

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Speaker 3: was so beloved.

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Speaker 2: Working with someone who won't start.

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Speaker 1: Never start.

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Speaker 3: If you never start, it can never be bad.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 4: Great rule to live by.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I remember that moment.

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Speaker 3: It was like day, here we go, we got the

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Speaker 3: kid in daycare, left that laptop over Ben, let's do it,

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Speaker 3: and I was just all over the shop. I think

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Speaker 3: after that, I said, we have to go to office

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Speaker 3: works because I want a new whiteboard.

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Speaker 2: And it's lunch. Yeah, where should go for lunch? Do

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Speaker 2: you have a drink? Sure? Trying to coax a rabbit

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Speaker 2: out of its hole.

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Speaker 1: It's obviously Wood and I work very closely together every day,

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Speaker 1: but we're not in a relationship with each other. That's

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Speaker 1: you are public.

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Speaker 2: Public.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. If we turn you guys off, My

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Speaker 1: stays with you, please. So an argument within work can

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Speaker 1: affect our relationship away from work, and an argument away

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Speaker 1: from work can affect our relationship within work. Yeah, being together,

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Speaker 1: having a child, being in a relationship, acting in a show,

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Speaker 1: writing a show together. For us, I know, the only

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Speaker 1: solution is just really radical transparency, because otherwise, if there's

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Speaker 1: a flying if there's a fly in the ointment or

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Speaker 1: a tap dancer on the whiteboard, then you've got an

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Speaker 1: issue immediately. How do you guys deal with that?

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Speaker 3: Look, Patty said to me once in relationship, so he's

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Speaker 3: been this is the most he's ever fought, and I'm like, well,

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Speaker 3: this is the least I've ever thought. I guess I'm

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Speaker 3: a crazy maker, but I think it's important to clean

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Speaker 3: the pipes out, you know, get a little bit heated.

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Speaker 3: We actually had a mini fight yesterday because we were

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Speaker 3: nervous because the premiere was last night and we didn't

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Speaker 3: know what we're wearing, and we were so ratty and

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Speaker 3: jet lagged, and we were just being like snippy with

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Speaker 3: each other and it just started going up and up

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Speaker 3: and up, and I said, Patty, stop.

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Speaker 2: We're just nervous and yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 2: We've got to do shortcuts.

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Speaker 3: I think if we had more time, we could have

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Speaker 3: done a big, big, old two hour blowout, but who

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Speaker 3: had the time? Yes, And also we don't have this many,

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Speaker 3: this much time without our kid, Like I wanted to

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Speaker 3: just do the fight in two minutes so we can

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Speaker 3: have a nice walk together.

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Speaker 6: But also we don't have like you say, like we

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Speaker 6: got right, we parent, we act blah blah, we don't

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Speaker 6: care like there's no segmentation.

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Speaker 2: It's all one big stew it's all in there.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And when you say it's all in there, Patrick, I

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Speaker 5: know Again talking with you guys about season one, you

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Speaker 5: guys both said that you use inspiration from your real

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Speaker 5: lives for storylines of the show, And I'm just interested.

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Speaker 5: Do you ever have moments in your life though, where

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Speaker 5: maybe Patrick, you do something incredibly embarrassing and you just

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Speaker 5: kind of look at Harriet and go not for the TV.

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Speaker 2: Show, honestly, No.

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Speaker 6: If it's funny enough and real enough, everything's up. Everything's

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Speaker 6: up for being on the show. Yeah, we had.

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Speaker 2: A few things in season one.

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Speaker 6: We've got a couple of things this season, maybe not

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Speaker 6: as many, not as much.

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Speaker 3: Like silly physical comedy that might be heartbreaking to here

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Speaker 3: we do have just regular comedy, but that like the

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Speaker 3: poo out the window, the wing and the draw, the

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Speaker 3: dick pick and the tub like, they were real great

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Speaker 3: kind of ways to hook in an audience.

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Speaker 2: Comedy STA.

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Speaker 7: Do.

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Speaker 3: What we haven't done yet is like projectile vomiting.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully, hopefully we'll just a good snot Maybe.

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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Speaker 5: There is a moment though, where Patrick, your character has

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Speaker 5: walked in on having private tips.

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Speaker 4: Is that time?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was not from our life. That actually wasn't,

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Speaker 2: but you know it could could have been.

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Speaker 1: You're clean skins, Patrick never never touched it down there

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Speaker 1: have you? Military?

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Speaker 2: Pretty early in the morning, cash man alarm goes off.

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Speaker 4: That's what.

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Speaker 1: I got. Another question.

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Speaker 5: You also talk in this in this new season about

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Speaker 5: ways that you impressed someone you know early in a relationship,

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Speaker 5: and obviously, Harriet, your character in the first season, went

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Speaker 5: for the old classic boom flash classic.

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Speaker 4: I'm just interested to feel comfortable.

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Speaker 5: Was there a moment between the two of you where

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Speaker 5: one of you did something to impress the other in

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Speaker 5: your in your real life.

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Speaker 3: No, but literally, just yesterday I gave Patty a good

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Speaker 3: old double flash.

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Speaker 8: All right.

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Speaker 3: We're sitting at a pub in the rocks, a huge,

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Speaker 3: huge jet lag and I just whipped him out just

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Speaker 3: to make him laugh.

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Speaker 2: And the look in his face was, I haven't.

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Speaker 3: Done that for years in the restaurant, just in a

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Speaker 4: Fresh You're famous, not to be pats Now, I.

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Speaker 2: Know I'm really dancing with the devil. She loves it.

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Speaker 6: She's never more alive than when she's all.

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Speaker 1: Right, guys, we're going to end things there because it's

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Speaker 1: going Hey, hey, hey. Season two of Colin from Account

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Speaker 1: premiers today on Binge. Patrick Brammel, Harriet Dyer, it's so

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Speaker 1: nice to speed you again. Congratulations, not another series again.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully see you again soon. Congrats. Donald Trump's in hot water.

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Speaker 1: We're finding out very soon whether or not he is

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Speaker 1: there's going to be any sort of criminal charges placed

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Speaker 1: against him, given that there is this case about the

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Speaker 1: alleged hush money one hundred thousand dollars did he paid

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Speaker 1: to a former porn star and Stormy Daniels to have

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Speaker 1: sex with him, and he tried to cover it up obviously,

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Speaker 1: as I said, by paying one hundred thousand dollars that

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Speaker 1: is currently in the court. So they finished sort of

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Speaker 1: giving all their evidence today, so it's sort of just

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Speaker 1: waiting to hear what the judge has to say back

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Speaker 1: about that. But while all of that is going on,

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Speaker 1: we have very much someone on the inside called Ty Cobb.

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Speaker 1: Ty was the former special counsel in the White House

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Speaker 1: for Trump throughout the entire Russian investigation. You remember there

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Speaker 1: was all that chat around whether or not Russia had

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Speaker 1: meddled with the votes for the US election that year.

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Speaker 1: And Ty joins us right now amazingly from Washington, DC. Welcome,

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Speaker 1: tied to William Woody.

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Speaker 9: Hey, gentlemen, how are you to Nate.

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Speaker 4: We're good, mate, Thank you so so much for your time.

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Speaker 1: I think everybody's fascinated around the character of this guy.

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Speaker 1: He has he has he been like huffing and puffing

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Speaker 1: in the witness box. What can you be like anecdotally,

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Speaker 1: what has he been like in the court.

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Speaker 9: He never made it to the witness box. He did

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Speaker 9: not testify. Defendants are not required to testify in the

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Speaker 9: United States, but he does every day on the way

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Speaker 9: in and out of court, takes the opportunity to appear

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Speaker 9: in front of the press and Lambassa, the judge as

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Speaker 9: you know, corrupt, evil and Trump hater some trumpt arrangement.

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Speaker 1: He's just so predictable in that sense, isn't he?

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Speaker 8: Ty?

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Speaker 9: He is? On the other hand, you know, he's sometimes

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Speaker 9: crazy like a fox because that narrative fires up his base.

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Speaker 9: And it's also, you know, intended to delegitimize the judge

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Speaker 9: and the court and the case. I think he's been

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Speaker 9: somewhat effective with that, at least with his followers and

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Speaker 9: perhaps some independence.

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Speaker 4: So can you give us a little cookie there?

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Speaker 1: Ty?

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Speaker 5: I mean, like, it is amazing that we're talking to

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Speaker 5: someone who works directly with this guy.

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Speaker 1: Let's say that your I don't know, getting a coffee

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Speaker 1: with him? Like, are you shouting the coffees? Is he

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Speaker 1: shouting the coffees? Is he ten minutes early? Is he?

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Speaker 1: Is he religiously half an hour light? What is it?

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Speaker 2: What is it?

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Speaker 1: An interaction like a lunch date or a coffee date?

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Speaker 1: Look like with Donald Trump.

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Speaker 9: N Trump is typically punctual, you know. I mean, he

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Speaker 9: has people who make his schedule run on time. He's

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Speaker 9: meticulous about business.

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Speaker 1: Are you just talking business? You know you're talking weather?

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Speaker 1: Have you got have you got some golf chat in there?

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Speaker 1: What's it? What's that look like?

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Speaker 9: There's very little small talk with the former president.

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Speaker 5: I would always see tie photos or videos of him

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Speaker 5: on on the on the President's jet, the private jet,

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Speaker 5: either eating KFC or like little cheeseburgers from.

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Speaker 4: Like Macas, Like what what what? What's what's he standard?

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Speaker 9: Like lunch order hamburgers and steak, So like.

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Speaker 4: A normal lunch hamburger and steak.

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Speaker 9: Hamburger or steak or hamburger an stick?

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Speaker 1: And is he is he having a beard to wash

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Speaker 1: that down? Or is it a glass of wine or

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Speaker 1: a milkshake or.

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Speaker 9: No no, so he's no dichk cheeseburger and no, no

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Speaker 9: died coke.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel any sort of like tension while you

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Speaker 1: were working with Trump? You were special counsel in the

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Speaker 1: White House for Trump during the whole Russian investigation as well.

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Speaker 1: Have you found that difficult knowing that this guy is

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Speaker 1: not necessarily as truthful as he maybe should be could be,

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Speaker 1: and that you're getting a hamburger and a stake with

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Speaker 9: So I think I think my experience was unique. I mean,

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Speaker 9: I represented Trump and you know the one thing he

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Speaker 9: did not do, and actually you know the there is

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Speaker 9: I do think he'll be convicted, and I'm fearful that

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Speaker 9: Nice to talk with you, guys. Take care. I have

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Speaker 1: How good.

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Speaker 4: Today, will it was?

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Speaker 5: I think this is almost my favorite Donald Trump quite

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Speaker 1: The whole thing is rigged. You have a trial like

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Speaker 5: I don't think Mother Theresa ever found herself in a

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Speaker 4: Think she ever found herself in that situation.

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Speaker 4: But she is a saint. Yep, she's a saint within

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Speaker 1: I mentioned her miracles before. I don't know what her

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Speaker 1: Did you find someone across that in your research? Because

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Speaker 1: do you know you had three miracles to be canonized

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Speaker 5: I don't know what her miracles were, but I'm sure

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Speaker 5: Or was it Mother Teresa who said this? I can

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Speaker 1: Going to read that again.

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Speaker 1: I'm there.

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Speaker 4: I can do things you cannot. You can do things

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Speaker 1: Oh Mother Terser, surely.

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Speaker 4: That was Mother Toreiser. Well done?

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Speaker 1: Will thank you done?

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Speaker 4: Well done. I'm not sure what we're doing here, maybe

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Speaker 1: I'm confused, Like I feel as if this game is

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Speaker 4: Just playing a game? Here we go?

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Speaker 5: Number two, life is an opportunity benefit from it Trump.

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Speaker 4: That was Raiser Mother to Raiser one all, God one All.

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Speaker 1: I hate this game. Okay, this is quite remarkable. This

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Speaker 1: is this is amazing. It's actually extraordinary.

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Speaker 4: Because they couldn't be more.

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Speaker 4: Okay, here we go. Number three. Each one of them

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Speaker 1: Who was she to talking about?

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Speaker 1: Where'd you get these quotes?

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Speaker 1: Where did you get these quotes? I'd like to know?

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Speaker 4: Who was she talking?

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Speaker 1: When was mother Teresa at large? I didn't know she

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Speaker 1: Nice?

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Speaker 4: You're down. I'm willing to give you whoever gets this wins.

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Speaker 4: Ye show me someone with no ego and I'll show

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Speaker 1: Ah God, well you know it stinks of Trump, but

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Speaker 1: Show me was someone with no ego and I'll show

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Speaker 1: you a big loser. Sorry, that's Trump.

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Speaker 7: Sorry when I said it out loud.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's that's terrifying. Oh, maybe he's not as

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Speaker 1: bad as we think, is hang on, hang on oky?

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Speaker 7: Maybe no, No, I mean, if he pulls off this trial,

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Speaker 7: maybe it's his third miracle Woods who knows his second

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Speaker 7: miracle is definitely having a penis that look like Toad

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Speaker 1: Would you be able to tell the difference between a

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Speaker 1: don't think so. In fact, we want to prank these

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Speaker 5: We're in full swing. We've got children, full swing, half swing.

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Speaker 5: Things have started swinging, swinging. Yes, we are swinging. It's

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Speaker 1: We have responsibly working away after them. We're feeding them

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Speaker 4: Plus we are looking actively for a gallery space.

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Speaker 5: We haven't yet locked that in, but I think a

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Speaker 5: being undercover at this gallery where we're hanging all this

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Speaker 5: to be chatting with the ARTSI folk in that ARTSI language.

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Speaker 1: That's what this is all about. But you're right, we

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Speaker 5: Have it on a French word and pants before I

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Speaker 1: So I think we need to talk to an art curator.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, nice, I love that. So we do have an

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Speaker 1: She's the senior curator of Contemporary Australian Art at the

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Speaker 4: She wears very impressive title Beatrice.

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Speaker 11: Hello, Will and Woody.

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Speaker 10: How are you.

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Speaker 4: We're good, We're really good.

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Speaker 5: First question, Beatrice, with all your knowledge in art curation,

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Speaker 5: So I think what we need from you, Beatrice, is

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Speaker 5: you obviously rub shoulders with these artsy fasi folks in

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Speaker 11: Oh, well, you know, it depends on whether you're collecting

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Speaker 1: Of course, to read a painting, you're not looking at it,

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Speaker 11: You're reading the painting.

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Speaker 5: So so when we're in the room with these artsy

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Speaker 11: Well, not really, but I'm enjoying these. But you know,

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Speaker 4: I've come to the world.

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Speaker 1: Ah. So so Beatrice has just walked in.

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Speaker 4: I met I met this painting just before.

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Speaker 5: Beatrice, and I think you might.

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Speaker 1: need to know how we're going to blow the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough, Beatrice, you seem to think that we can

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Speaker 1: we've done, Beatrice, and we've chosen really really iconic images

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Speaker 1: with the windows xp background, which is that green hill

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Speaker 1: with the blue sky with a few clouds in it,

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Speaker 1: that's all it is?

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Speaker 4: Nice? Yeah, any basic can you talk about that in

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Speaker 4: the Nazi way? Beatrice?

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Speaker 11: Oh my god, Okay, okay, here we go. The foreground

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Speaker 11: depicts a bucolic field of lush green grass and a

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Speaker 11: soft hill shapes the horizon line. The bright blue sky

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Speaker 11: is populated by fluffy alter cumulus and serious clouds. It's

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Speaker 11: an overall calming landscape.

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Speaker 1: Oh my, and that's just the windows XP which was

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Speaker 1: the first word to use their bubonic. Isn't that a plague?

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Speaker 1: Bucolic colic?

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Speaker 4: What does colic? I want to I plan on using.

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Speaker 7: That, you colic?

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Speaker 11: Well, you know it's like a kind of a lovely

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Speaker 11: kind of farm tranquil scene.

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Speaker 1: That Yeah, Bucolic wants a wife.

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Speaker 4: Bucolic wants a wife.

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Speaker 5: Oh nice, nice, Right, let's go here one, next, one,

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Speaker 5: next week for the pedestrian crossing sign that someone's like

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Speaker 5: the yellow sign.

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Speaker 4: You just see the two.

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Speaker 1: This is hard. You make this sound artsy. I mean

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Speaker 1: this is so. This is a step up here to

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Speaker 1: give it a crack.

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Speaker 11: All right, okay, okay. There is a childlike naivety sophistication

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Speaker 11: inherent here. This logo has embraced a minimal, eye catching

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Speaker 11: palette of yellow and black, A solid yellow circle with

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Speaker 11: a black outline overlaid with a side view of black

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Speaker 11: trousers and sensible close totoes that suggests the motion of walking.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, there was a naivety of a child

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Speaker 5: and what child like naivety?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we can and we can use that child like

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Speaker 1: and that's going to be our catchphrase.

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Speaker 11: Definitely, some other ones who've got to use for kids

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Speaker 11: things like rawness and energy is very own.

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Speaker 4: There's a rawness, there's a child like rawness.

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Speaker 5: How would you just describe our radio show in an

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Speaker 5: artsy fatcy way, Beatrice, I'd.

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Speaker 11: Have to think about this a little bit more, maybe

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Speaker 11: say a couple of sophisticated Jesus with good intentions wanting

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Speaker 11: to have a really great time, pretty good beds.

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Speaker 1: You've been very useful, mate, and you've given us a

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Speaker 1: huge grouse. I'm feeling already way more confident about pulling

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Speaker 1: the metaphorical pants down of some art snobs next week.

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Speaker 1: Very very excited with Beatrice. I mean, if she can

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Speaker 1: do it, I reckon, we can do it, mate. Mind

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Speaker 1: a little bit of training, But Beatrice, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us been loved to meet. Eye opening

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Speaker 1: for everybody as to how much you people talk truly unbelievables.

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Speaker 1: Do art lovers know what they're talking about? Or are

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Speaker 1: they full of it? Next week we are going to

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Speaker 1: fill a kid's art gallery with kids art in an

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Speaker 1: attempt to get these art snobs to pay tens of

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Speaker 1: thousands of dollars for paintings exclude lusively done by children

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Speaker 1: well and waddies Nager Inside Out Too only in cinemas.

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Speaker 5: June thirteen, a little boy called Joel gave us the

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Speaker 5: idea for all the kids to paint emotions as well

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Speaker 5: emotions from the film Inside Out Too. Yes, and we

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Speaker 5: do have one of the child artists in the studio

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Speaker 5: with us now with her mom.

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Speaker 4: Welcome Abby.

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Speaker 8: Hi, my name's Abby.

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Speaker 4: Hello Abby, and we've got mam as well. Hi, Beth, Hello,

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Speaker 4: thanks for having us.

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Speaker 1: Oh, thanks for coming in. Guys. I'm very excited about this.

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Speaker 1: So you're painting fear. That's the emotion from Inside Out

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Speaker 1: Too that you're painting. Yourself was painting and you were

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Speaker 1: saying you're supremely confident with this.

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Speaker 8: I was quite confident. I really liked how it turned out.

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Speaker 8: I was proud of the painting.

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Speaker 1: Was it daunting at all for you? Painting fear? Was

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Speaker 1: it hard to sort of caldure what that would look like.

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Speaker 8: I've never painted an emotion before, so it did take

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Speaker 8: a while to think about it, okay, and decide what

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Speaker 8: I was going to do. But in the end I

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Speaker 8: was quite happy with the whole idea, the concept that I.

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Speaker 1: Got and how does that work? Was like I think

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Speaker 1: if I was to paint fear as a kid, or

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Speaker 1: to think about what fear looked like for me as

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Speaker 1: a kid, it was probably quite specific. Like I knew

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Speaker 1: I was afraid of cats when I was a little boy.

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Speaker 1: There were things I can think of. How old are

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Speaker 1: you Abby, ten? Okay, how do you think of fear

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Speaker 1: as a ten year old?

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Speaker 8: I think of fear as like something that makes us

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Speaker 8: feel uncomfortable, makes us feel that we're in danger, or

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Speaker 8: makes you feel uncomfortable with the thing that you're feared of.

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Speaker 1: Your mum beths in here next to you, and we

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Speaker 1: found out that she'd just written a thesis on insolvency. Lord,

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Speaker 1: Does that scare you? Does that instill fearing you?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 8: No, it really doesn't.

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Speaker 4: When was the last time you actually did feel fear though.

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Speaker 8: Probably when I was coming to do this painting, as

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Speaker 8: I was like, what if people don't like it? What

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Speaker 8: if I make really bad mistakes? What if it turns

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Speaker 8: out really bad?

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Speaker 1: But you're proud of what you've done?

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Speaker 8: Though?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Happy with okay? So, and I suppose this is the

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Speaker 1: big question for all the kids who are going to

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Speaker 1: be painting in our art gallery and it's going to

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Speaker 1: be up next week, Guys, the modern art gallery filled

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Speaker 1: with kids art. Do you think that an adult will

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Speaker 1: look at your painting? And do you think that they

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Speaker 1: will pay money for it? Do you think they'll know

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Speaker 1: that it's done by a ten year old?

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Speaker 8: I really don't think they would know the exact age,

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Speaker 8: but Lie, I don't think it looks particular like an

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Speaker 8: adult did it? Okay, but then it might to some people.

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Speaker 1: Keep it mind, the whole art gallery is going to

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Speaker 1: be themed up as like artists painting paintings through a

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Speaker 1: child's eyes. So you've got that on your side, right.

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Speaker 8: I feel like it represents it best to me.

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Speaker 4: Cool we can?

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Speaker 5: I ask you, Beth, you've obviously seen some of Abby's

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Speaker 5: work that she's done, art that she's done previously. Are

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Speaker 5: there some pieces that you go, I reckon, it's believe

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Speaker 5: than an adult could have done that.

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Speaker 12: Definitely. She painted a fabulous beach a couple of weeks

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Speaker 12: ago that I just loved.

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Speaker 7: Wow.

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Speaker 12: But I actually really enjoy the painting she did as

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Speaker 12: a four year old, because sometimes they're more freeing and

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Speaker 12: more interesting, and they looked professional. Honestly, her four year

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Speaker 12: old paintings were sensation.

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Speaker 1: Did you have the same feeling, particularly when it was

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Speaker 1: like on the on the hallway wall.

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Speaker 12: Or we have fifty canvases around our house.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, wow, and.

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Speaker 12: I get pure joy walking past them every day.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow. Okay, we're very excited to see what you painted, Abs,

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Speaker 1: So your mum Be's going to stay in the studio.

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Speaker 1: She hasn't seen the painting yet.

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Speaker 12: I haven't seen it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we're very excited to see it. Only you know

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Speaker 1: what this looks like. Abby.

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Speaker 8: We're going to go to and he sketches. Okay, I

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Speaker 8: have no idea how it actually took great.

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Speaker 4: The emotion you're painting is fear, Yes, fear. This is

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Speaker 4: probably a.

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Speaker 5: Selfish question as a new parent, Beth. You just heard

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Speaker 5: Abby talking before about when she last felt fear and Abby,

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Speaker 5: you were saying that you actually felt fearful when you

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Speaker 5: came into the radio station here to do your painting.

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Speaker 8: Yes, but as soon as I met the people, they

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Speaker 8: were really nice and I had a really good time painting.

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Speaker 1: We have heard that we had a significant amount of

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Speaker 1: sugar for their time. Is that what you're talking about?

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Speaker 2: Aving?

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Speaker 1: It's okay, it's a safe space.

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Speaker 8: Yes, I did have quite a few sugary things.

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Speaker 5: Okay, But can I ask you when you do see Abby,

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Speaker 5: your daughter there maybe feeling stressed about succeeding in something

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Speaker 5: or getting worried about something, how do you react to that?

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Speaker 4: How do you deal with that?

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Speaker 12: I recognize that she very much has my personality. Is

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Speaker 12: not necessarily a good thing, but she's definitely my daughter.

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Speaker 12: We do get very strong.

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Speaker 1: That's otherwise the whole other piece of radio a little

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Speaker 1: bit more Kyl and Jack Skew.

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Speaker 12: Oh, we just try and go through techniques. So she's

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Speaker 12: actually recently been going to this really great painting club

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Speaker 12: where they do painting mindfulness and I actually do classes

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Speaker 12: which are not about output but just about learning to distress.

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Speaker 1: Oh, cour she loves painting.

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Speaker 12: She needs to distress.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so it all comes together all right. Well, I

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Speaker 1: feel like you're It feels like you're the right artist,

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Speaker 1: Abby to be painting this one, because this is a

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Speaker 1: tricky one. You're painting one of the emotions from inside

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Speaker 1: out too, is all the kids are who are putting

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Speaker 1: artwork up in our kids art gallery. You're painting fear,

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Speaker 1: which is arguably the most confronting thing for most people

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Speaker 1: in their lives. So to think that you're a ten

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Speaker 1: year old doing this is daunting for me. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: seem more that daunting for you, which is amazing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you can see since you gram TikTok will them, what

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Speaker 1: are you gonna get a sneak peek yourselves? Otherwise, here we.

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Speaker 4: Go, Abby, can you talk through it please?

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Speaker 8: So up the top area is the gloomy sunset sky,

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Speaker 8: and then I have the wave and then the ocean

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Speaker 8: with a tiny little black boat. The black boat represents

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Speaker 8: the being or person fear, fear, and the wave in

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Speaker 8: the ocean represents fear itself, engulfing this being, taking them away,

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Speaker 8: making them just so scared. It's a representation of how

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Speaker 8: we feel fear. Everything else is gone. All we can

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Speaker 8: think of is fear. Just taking us like our minds

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Speaker 8: are taking over. Taken over.

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Speaker 5: Wow, Abby, extraordinary the colors you've used as well. Abby,

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Speaker 5: it's just magnificent that the color of the sky, that

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Speaker 5: the ocean gets darker and darker the deeper it gets.

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Speaker 5: I know you haven't said it. I am very confident

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Speaker 5: that people will think that is done by an adult artist.

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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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Speaker 12: I think it's fantastic, sweetheart. Congratulations, ye did a beautiful job.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, Abby, congrats man, thank you. I feel like

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Speaker 1: kind of honored that we're hanging that in our art gallery.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing.

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Speaker 4: I might put a put a bit in for that one.

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Speaker 4: Are you taking bids?

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Speaker 1: Not until the night? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: To sell it. You're going to sell it, selling it.

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Speaker 12: No, I don't always take the money.

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Speaker 4: Sweet very smart mom, very smart.

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Speaker 1: Hey, the Kids I Gallery is happening it next week.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 1: We are going to be genuine art lovers there on

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Speaker 1: the night, willing to pay a whole bunch of cash,

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Speaker 1: hopefully for the art that we are putting up there.

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Speaker 1: Each of the pieces of art will depict an emotion

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Speaker 1: in the film Inside Out to and Disney Pixar's Inside

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Speaker 1: Out to his ownly Incentimus June thirteenth, Wards, We've got

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Speaker 1: a brand new podcast called share My Mood.

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Speaker 12: Women would share mine moody.

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Speaker 1: We reckon that getting in touch with how you're feeling

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Speaker 1: and then having the skill and really it is a skill.

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Speaker 1: It's not something that comes naturally to most of us.

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Speaker 1: Being able to get in touch and then express how

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Speaker 1: you're going is arguably the most important thing you can

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Speaker 1: do in terms of your mental health. Does it mean

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Speaker 1: you have to tell someone maybe expressing for you is

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Speaker 1: going for a run. That's the case with Laura Henshaw,

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Speaker 1: who's one half of Kick, and she's the latest get

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Speaker 1: on how Share my Mood podcast. She's a wonderful chat

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Speaker 1: like you guys get this wherever you get your podcast,

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Speaker 1: listen to a woman at like really like the peak

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Speaker 1: of her power is talking vulnerably about things that she

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Speaker 1: struggles with and how she's going, but also the great

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Speaker 1: things she's learned. Yeah, she I feel like she's such

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Speaker 1: a sponge. Laura, Like she's constantly thinking about how she

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Speaker 1: can express herself better, not just for herself, but also

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Speaker 1: for the people around her. She's obviously the CEO and

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Speaker 1: founder of Kick with Seph Claire Smith was.

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Speaker 5: A model, very very young, moved to Milan when she

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Speaker 5: was nineteen years old. Talks about all of that. So yeah,

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Speaker 5: go and get the full chat. She look up share

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Speaker 5: my mood. But in this grab, we're going to play

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Speaker 5: for you now, Wilba, she's she's right in the throes

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Speaker 5: of trying to figure out with her partner Dalton, if

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Speaker 5: they want to have kids.

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Speaker 1: Have listened.

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Speaker 10: We spoke with a relationship counselor about a note because

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Speaker 10: I wanted to ask her if one person wants to

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Speaker 10: have kids and the other doesn't, do you have to

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Speaker 10: break up? And it was really interesting because in her

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Speaker 10: experience in working with lots and lots of clients, what

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Speaker 10: she had seen is if one person does and one

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Speaker 10: person doesn't, then there's always resentment for whichever one didn't

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Speaker 10: get what they wanted, because it is it's a huge

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Speaker 10: it's a huge it's almost.

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Speaker 1: Like a value.

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Speaker 10: If you want to have children or not. It's life

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Speaker 10: altering decision. And what happens in those relationships is so

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Speaker 10: for example, if the maybe the dad doesn't want to

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Speaker 10: have kids and the mum does, then on a Saturday,

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Speaker 10: the Mom's like, oh, I was going to catch up

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Speaker 10: with a friend today. The dad's like, well you I

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Speaker 10: didn't want this.

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Speaker 4: You wanted this.

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Speaker 10: Like I'm going or or vice versa, and the resentment.

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Speaker 10: And she said that she has never seen a couple

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Speaker 10: that has one has wanted and one hasn't openly and

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Speaker 10: it's worked out for their relationship. And it just made

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Speaker 10: me realize that it's not and I didn't before we

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Speaker 10: started the podcast series. I did not think this. But

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Speaker 10: it's not just it is a decision you make together,

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Speaker 10: but you need to decide what you both want separately,

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Speaker 10: not together. And I feel like it's always been or

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Speaker 10: for me sold to me, like, oh, it's something we

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Speaker 10: decide we want together.

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Speaker 1: I know that obviously this is content and it sounds

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Speaker 1: like the podcast is really great. I like it is

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Speaker 1: a really good thing I think for people to listen

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Speaker 1: to before they have kids, because I know I certainly

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Speaker 1: felt the societal thing pre having kids. I don't. Sam

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Speaker 1: was openly, very keen, but I don't think I think

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Speaker 1: we also. I think we also had a horrible moment.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of the parents have this, but

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Speaker 1: I remember I was holding Max in the kitchen. Sam

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Speaker 1: couldn't hold her anymore because like her back was cooked

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Speaker 1: because she she had to have an emergency cesarian, so

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Speaker 1: she couldn't hold her because her something was cooked. And

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Speaker 1: then like her back was cooked. And then she worked

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Speaker 1: me up and I'd just been up with her for

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Speaker 1: like three hours and I had worked the next day,

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Speaker 1: about a month in or something like that, and she

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Speaker 1: was like, can you come and take her? And I

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Speaker 1: kitchen and just thinking like I can't, I can't. I

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Speaker 1: just can't do this. And I said to Sam, I

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Speaker 1: was like, I think we made a really bad choice.

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Speaker 1: I just remember having that though I was like this

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Speaker 1: was dumb, Like this was really dumb and it wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Turns out it wasn't. But in saying that, I didn't

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Speaker 1: think that weird sufficiently spoken about it. And that is

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Speaker 1: what that conversation made scary for me is because I

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Speaker 1: was like, I remember thinking to myself, I the thought,

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Speaker 1: say it out loud because I was like, well, we've

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Speaker 1: got a kid now, there's nothing we can do about it,

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Speaker 1: so it's here, So why would I say that, but

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Speaker 1: I remember being angry. We're not angry, but like I

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Speaker 1: feel like I let myself down by not sitting down

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Speaker 1: with her and making and having a really boring, scientific

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Speaker 1: conversation about what our lives would like. We didn't do

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Speaker 1: that because it was just like, we're in love. We

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Speaker 1: want to have kids. That's the first thing she said

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Speaker 1: to me the first day we went on. She's like,

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Speaker 1: I really want to have kids. I remember saying that,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, great, I really want to have

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Speaker 1: kids who can't wait? But we never I mean we didn't.

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Speaker 1: We didn't do a podcast about it. We certainly didn't

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Speaker 1: do a podcast about it. But we didn't have a

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Speaker 1: conversation about it. And I just don't think there are

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Speaker 1: that many people that do at all. And I know

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Speaker 1: even the thought of having a second one for us

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Speaker 1: is heavily because we've spoken about it a lot since

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Speaker 1: then predicated with we need to talk about what and

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Speaker 1: why more importantly why. It's a great chat, probably a

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Speaker 1: chat a lot of people haven't had even thought about having.

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Speaker 1: Go and get it wherever you get your podcasts, just

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Speaker 1: search Share my Mood and the other side, Patrick Gramla

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Speaker 1: Harrot Di are going to join the stars of Colin

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Speaker 1: from Account which is back on TV, and the quizspelling

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