Speaker 1: You didn't notice of my work outside on the patio
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 2: I haven't been out there, yeah, mate, don't know what got.
Speaker 1: Over me, but I saw some marks on the Papersny
Speaker 1: I got the gurnie.
Speaker 2: Fucking how good is it? Gurny? Also? Can I borrow it? Actually?
Speaker 3: My driveway so slippery. The kids are slipping and sliding
Speaker 3: down my driveway.
Speaker 1: What's mine is yours? Also, when you're gurneying, it's very dangerous.
Speaker 2: Kids.
Speaker 1: Stay away, mate, I had two hours free from the kids.
Speaker 2: But how are your forearms?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I noticed popeye.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to two doting dads. I'm Mattie Jay and
Speaker 1: I'm Ash. And this is a podcast all about parenting.
Speaker 1: It is the good, it is the bad and the relatable,
Speaker 1: and it is not about giving advice because Ash and
Speaker 1: I are very dumb.
Speaker 2: Well said. I couldn't have said it better myself, and
Speaker 2: I had a little tickle in my throat. That's no good.
Speaker 2: I had an IV yesterday, so I'm I'm flying. What
Speaker 2: were you injecting into yourself? Just just just heroin? That's usual.
Speaker 3: Now let's move on from that. We do have we
Speaker 3: do have something that we need to talk about. It's pressing.
Speaker 2: What's that is that there was a technical issue, the
Speaker 2: big technical issue.
Speaker 1: We had a few people in the Facebook group being like,
Speaker 1: what the hell is going on? And poor Jess, who
Speaker 1: was in Japan had to come back and save the day.
Speaker 2: She flew back really quick.
Speaker 1: We were like sorry about the technical error, and people
Speaker 1: were like, we know, we know what's happened, but I
Speaker 1: what happened?
Speaker 2: Man? You tell I actually want to defend myself. You
Speaker 2: tell me what you think happened.
Speaker 1: And I've had a few weeks now, back to back
Speaker 1: where I revealed information which I wasn't meant to reveal,
Speaker 1: the first one being the name of our child, shout out.
Speaker 2: To Poppy's unborn Poppy yet to be born.
Speaker 1: And then apparently I don't remember doing this.
Speaker 2: That starts the sentence with a para.
Speaker 1: Well, it was first brought to my attention whilst I
Speaker 1: was in a gojak, which is a taxi in Ballei.
Speaker 1: I was in the front seat and Laura sit me
Speaker 1: behind me, taps me on the shoulder. This is on
Speaker 1: a Wednesday, the day which our podcast comes out, and
Speaker 1: she says, did you mention that Britt was getting married
Speaker 1: in Bali? And I was like, no, no, I don't recall.
Speaker 1: I was like, I would definitely not do that, did I?
Speaker 1: And then I was like my initial reaction was just no,
Speaker 1: like Blake.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you got her back yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah you've got even though you're like, I'm not sure,
Speaker 3: You've still got to be like, I definitely didn't do that.
Speaker 3: So just in case you definitely didn't do that, you're
Speaker 3: like to.
Speaker 1: And I was like that was close. And then Laura
Speaker 1: was like, we've just had a couple of people message
Speaker 1: us saying that they heard that BRIT's getting married from
Speaker 1: your podcast.
Speaker 3: And I was like, the Lifers were a little bit
Speaker 3: off it because they feel like far part of the fart.
Speaker 3: I feel like part of the family, feel like part
Speaker 3: of the family over there at Life. I'm cut and
Speaker 3: then we've.
Speaker 2: Gone, You've gone.
Speaker 3: I'm not taking any I was like, my message to
Speaker 3: Laura was like, We'll do whatever it takes.
Speaker 2: Was it me or was it you? I think it
Speaker 2: was a combination. Was it who was it? I think
Speaker 2: I don't think it was me. I think I was
Speaker 2: that was you. It was definitely no.
Speaker 3: I had mentioned it previously, but not as much detail
Speaker 3: as you bullshit we have evidence.
Speaker 2: Please play the tape. Play the tape for the man.
Speaker 1: Put forward the case to not bring the kids to Bali.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're going for a special going for.
Speaker 1: Bris wedding over Bali, I think I think that's public.
Speaker 2: This would be out while time's over. Yeah, actually will
Speaker 2: be shit good one, Matt, good one. That's Ai. That
Speaker 2: is a I. I've been framed.
Speaker 3: I've put that in there to frame you. I just
Speaker 3: wanted to ruffle the feathers a little bit. Okay, No
Speaker 3: I didn't. You just said that all on your right.
Speaker 3: But it's not the first time we mentioned it. I'm
Speaker 3: certain that we should we shut.
Speaker 2: The fuck up. Did we mention it? What are you doing?
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get you more. Okay. It humors me
Speaker 2: when you're in trouble and it's not me, because.
Speaker 3: To be quite honest, I thought it would be me
Speaker 3: that would suck up most things.
Speaker 2: Why did I do that?
Speaker 1: I think I thought everyone knew that I was going
Speaker 1: to Balley right, people I knew.
Speaker 2: People I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's the world's worst kept secret. Like we all knew
Speaker 3: it was getting married. Like when an influence is like
Speaker 3: I got something big coming. People are like, we don't care,
Speaker 3: just when it's done, tell us. Yeah, Like it was
Speaker 3: like everyone went quiet on socials.
Speaker 2: Where is everyone?
Speaker 1: So I do want to apologize to brit for potentially
Speaker 1: destroying the surprise.
Speaker 2: I have to say its just play along with me along, Okay?
Speaker 2: We whoa. We are so sorry for what we've done.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that Matt, sorry that you're You're making this
Speaker 2: the worst apology. We are sorry. Look, if I wasn't sorry,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have said.
Speaker 3: To Laura or I said to Jess with Laura in
Speaker 3: the same group conversation.
Speaker 2: That's how that works. Do whatever Laura would like us
Speaker 2: to do, do whatever it takes. That's how sorry.
Speaker 1: And Jess, thank you to you for jumping on this
Speaker 1: situation quickly in Japan on your holiday with terrible time
Speaker 1: to jump back at work.
Speaker 2: We apologize again.
Speaker 1: We apologize for that ashn I chilling voices, but also
Speaker 1: do just want to say not that we would ever
Speaker 1: want to do this again.
Speaker 2: It was purely an accident. But those download numbers through
Speaker 2: the Wow, we need more inside information WikiLeaks.
Speaker 1: Yeah so, and also thanks to the listeners as well,
Speaker 1: because I think there was a few people in the
Speaker 1: Facebook group as well. When I said it's a technical problem,
Speaker 1: they were like, sure.
Speaker 3: Sure, mate, technically you fucked up. And they didn't ruin
Speaker 3: the surprise.
Speaker 2: Oh thank you guys.
Speaker 1: And you know I had to. I was upset. I
Speaker 1: was upset, you know, to Laura. You know, I had
Speaker 1: to like.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, sorry.
Speaker 3: And I even sent you an encouraging message. It's been like,
Speaker 3: it's all good, bro. People make mistakes.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, I'm like, what an idiot? How was Let's move on?
Speaker 3: So you went to Bali for a wedding of we
Speaker 3: allowed to talk about it now, Britt's wedding, which is
Speaker 3: Laura's co host on Life on Cut and Laura Laura,
Speaker 3: Laura is your current.
Speaker 1: Wife, beautiful wife, Laura. She was actually already in Bali
Speaker 1: for work for work, and so I was joining her,
Speaker 1: flying over with the kids. And there are lots of
Speaker 1: options on solo with the kids. And you're a good dad,
Speaker 1: thank you. You are one in a million. And these
Speaker 1: decisions what flight to book, these are decisions that I
Speaker 1: agonize over. Okay, okay, because the option was ash do.
Speaker 2: I fly do go quanas? Nice plane? You get food?
Speaker 1: Issue is is she is the flight arrives quite late.
Speaker 1: You're getting into Bali at lad ten eleven Jetstar version.
Speaker 1: They're all the same. You get them too late. So
Speaker 1: by the time you go through customs, once you get
Speaker 1: in the taxi.
Speaker 2: There is a six am Jet Stuff flight. Too early.
Speaker 2: Early there is a ten o'clock Garuda flight. There was
Speaker 2: a ten o'clock I rocked up.
Speaker 1: This is on my socials, but I rocked up and
Speaker 1: they were like, flights canceled.
Speaker 2: That fucks fucking ran. I ran.
Speaker 1: They said, if you don't want to accept a new flight,
Speaker 1: which is tomorrow morning, you can get a full refund.
Speaker 1: So I knew there was a Virgin flight in the afternoon.
Speaker 1: I fucking sprinted. I was like Usain Bolt across the
Speaker 1: airport because Virgin was at one end, Garuda was the other.
Speaker 1: I had Marley and Lola under both arms. I get
Speaker 1: to Virgin. There's no one there except for six women.
Speaker 1: Oh and then as I get to that checking desk,
Speaker 1: they say, I cannot believe we just got the last
Speaker 1: seats on that flight.
Speaker 2: And they turn around and I just go, are you
Speaker 2: fucking kidding? I shouldn't have sworn?
Speaker 3: And Marley and Lola were like, are we not going
Speaker 3: to see mummy and I'm like no, because they booked
Speaker 3: the last tickets. Did one of those one of those
Speaker 3: women be like at least show some sort of empathy,
Speaker 3: you know where they were they were, they were like
Speaker 3: it was it was a week like.
Speaker 2: They were. I could tell.
Speaker 1: I looked in their eyes and they were upset that
Speaker 1: they had Because I'm standing there with my two children.
Speaker 2: They're both balling, being.
Speaker 1: Like, we're not going to go on holiday and I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: we're not, because they have ruined it for us.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 1: And then do you know what? Do you know what
Speaker 1: made matters worse? When I got home, I had to
Speaker 1: get back in the taxi, had to get home. The
Speaker 1: taxi driver was like, oh, the card machine's not working,
Speaker 1: and so I tapped again and he's like, no, it
Speaker 1: didn't work.
Speaker 2: Tap again.
Speaker 1: I got charged five times my fucking time. He's gotcha.
Speaker 2: I want one of those ATM machines, just walk around
Speaker 2: town with it. What do you mean?
Speaker 1: I looked at my statement and I remember the time
Speaker 1: I was like, I think I think you've charged me.
Speaker 2: It's gone through, guys. Now it hasn't gone through.
Speaker 1: It's fled the country. Now, I mean anyway. So then
Speaker 1: the next morning was up at three am back to Garuda.
Speaker 1: Long story short. I don't want to go on about,
Speaker 1: you know, my situation. But the computers were down. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, it's a.
Speaker 2: Two hour wait.
Speaker 1: There's a small chance ash that I went into the
Speaker 1: business line.
Speaker 2: To skip the queue a little bit.
Speaker 3: Why were you in business, don't you?
Speaker 2: Dad? No, but don't wink at me. The wait was very.
Speaker 1: Long, Okay, I would I'm with two kids. They had
Speaker 1: to go to the toilet, so I had to leave
Speaker 1: the queue to go to the toilet. And I thought,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to try and weed the my way
Speaker 1: back like halfway into the queue.
Speaker 2: So I just jumped into the business queue and yeah, great,
Speaker 2: how did that go? It's great, really good. You skipped
Speaker 2: the whole line. Yes, I I didn't want to.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to go on too much about like
Speaker 1: that line at the checking desk, because people like you
Speaker 1: were straight to the front.
Speaker 2: I don't condone. It worked. It did like it, you know,
Speaker 2: it worked. I don't want to.
Speaker 3: Actually, I've got a little hack fee now. Actually, now
Speaker 3: let's jog my memory. I was coming back from what
Speaker 3: was I going back from Brisbane and you know when
Speaker 3: you get to security and the normal line Love Brisbane,
Speaker 3: and then the priority line. Who I was with Matt Veach,
Speaker 3: you're on your trouble here. If they figure you out,
Speaker 3: you could just go in the priority line because they
Speaker 3: don't actually check your boarding paths until you're scanning onto
Speaker 3: the plane.
Speaker 1: No, I've been I have tried to jump into the
Speaker 1: primary line and they've checked my boarding past and said no,
Speaker 1: that's right.
Speaker 2: We got yelled at that time. Yeah we got yeah, yes,
Speaker 2: we take all of that back. Yeah, but it'll worked
Speaker 2: this time.
Speaker 3: But so you went straight to the front of the line,
Speaker 3: all gravy, straight through.
Speaker 1: Let's just focus on the fact that, you know, I
Speaker 1: had two kids and by myself. Yeah, and the grid
Speaker 1: of flight was good. My mom was like, who are
Speaker 1: you flying with Garuda? They had a crash last month
Speaker 1: for people died. They had one of the worst track
Speaker 1: records of plane crashes out of all our lines.
Speaker 3: It's like I just changed it to air Asia.
Speaker 2: I was like, why the fuck are you telling me this? Nan,
Speaker 2: my mum the world's biggest warrior.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but we got there and and my sister
Speaker 1: actually said, you just stopped complaining because I did a video.
Speaker 2: We got we a complaint.
Speaker 1: We're in a villa and there was construction. The pool
Speaker 1: and restaurant was being built next door. We were like
Speaker 1: the last villa next to the construction site. And they're like,
Speaker 1: there's a bit of noise, just a bit. There was
Speaker 1: jack hammering every and there's.
Speaker 2: No sound insulation, bali whatsoever.
Speaker 3: Those rooms are just just mate like there's like no
Speaker 3: in or or outer wall.
Speaker 2: It's just the way it is.
Speaker 3: There was a nightmare, but just quickly with the going
Speaker 3: to the bathroom with both you had both kids and
Speaker 3: you're the only parent. I think it's really funny when
Speaker 3: I have to go to the bathroom and I have
Speaker 3: to drag them along with me. It was like you
Speaker 3: stand there while I go to the bathroom on the plane. No,
Speaker 3: just just wherever you're with both kids on time and
Speaker 3: you have to wait for a change, and the men's
Speaker 3: toilets suck. They come in there and they're like his
Speaker 3: place stinks.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, up against the walls, Like what's up
Speaker 2: on the floor.
Speaker 1: On the plane. If you've flown with both kids, have
Speaker 1: you done that before?
Speaker 3: Oh my god alone, Oh my god, when would I
Speaker 3: have had to do that you tell me, bro, well,
Speaker 3: my wife doesn't work overseas.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you've never flown solo with both kids?
Speaker 1: No, oh, I feel like you just This is the
Speaker 1: equivalent of a dad saying I've never changed an happy No, it's.
Speaker 3: Not whoa whoa you're about dad, I'm not part of
Speaker 3: the three percent.
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, I'm not. You live, I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2: I'm flying this afternoon alone. Just bring the kids.
Speaker 1: The most stressful moment ash on those flights, okay, is
Speaker 1: when you have to go to the toilet.
Speaker 2: I have to do a yeah.
Speaker 1: And I also I got they moved my flight and
Speaker 1: I it was weird because I talked about the sitting arrangement.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And I was like, do you go like,
Speaker 1: because Garuda is two four and two, do you go
Speaker 1: four in the middle? And I was like, wouldn't it
Speaker 1: be funny if you had two and like the window
Speaker 1: aisle and then you're then across the other aisle dream
Speaker 1: And they must have heard me. That's the seats that
Speaker 1: we got. I couldn't move my seats. They were like,
Speaker 1: here's your seats and I was like, oh, I'm separate
Speaker 1: to the kids, and they were like fuck fuck ed,
Speaker 1: you're like.
Speaker 2: I was, it was. It was anyone wondering terrible, Oh,
Speaker 2: because they're just doing whatever they like over there. And
Speaker 2: Lola has a.
Speaker 1: Little like screen in front of her seat and she's like, oh,
Speaker 1: the screen's broken, and you're like God, reaching over and
Speaker 1: trying to help her out. But yeah, going then to
Speaker 1: the toilet and like trying to be as quick in
Speaker 1: the fishing as you can.
Speaker 2: Leave the door open, care like holding it open, then.
Speaker 1: Coming back and being like will they still be there?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because like they're unsupervised.
Speaker 1: A lady rode in and was like she was flying
Speaker 1: with her daughter. Her daughter was asleep. She went to
Speaker 1: the toilet and the daughter woke up and thought the
Speaker 1: plane had landed. New people had gotten on and.
Speaker 2: Woke up and was like, it's like a home alone situation,
Speaker 2: but we made it there.
Speaker 1: Yes, thett a bit of noise, but it was. It
Speaker 1: was a lovely holiday, a lovely wedding as well. Thankfully
Speaker 1: no paparazzi had rocked up and didn't get gay crashed
Speaker 1: by Life on Cut fans who knew where it was.
Speaker 2: It was great.
Speaker 3: That's good, that's good Prime time for Bali too, isn't
Speaker 3: that right now.
Speaker 1: Lovely busy, lovely fuck did the traffic was purraffic and
Speaker 1: BALI don't get me started.
Speaker 2: That's brutal.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Yanni a babysitter. Shout out to Yanni, nanny, sorry, nanny,
Speaker 1: I'd love to bring me back and just have weird.
Speaker 1: Laura and I were like, could we have in touch
Speaker 1: with immigration?
Speaker 3: Have you?
Speaker 1: Yanni was like, oh, so, who's your nanny back home
Speaker 1: in Australia.
Speaker 2: You are, here's a one way ticket to Australia.
Speaker 1: It was very, very sad to wave goodbye to you
Speaker 1: and returning back to this fucking hell whole of a city.
Speaker 2: It's good to have you back. It is cold.
Speaker 3: It is cold here compared to Barley wearing a beanie.
Speaker 2: I know, dude, like like John Butler treo over here,
Speaker 2: thank you. I don't know that's but there's things you've missed.
Speaker 2: There's things you've missed.
Speaker 3: Around here that I want to enlighten you about. Go on, okay.
Speaker 3: The first one is I think I think my I'm
Speaker 3: calling Macy the Silent Assassin.
Speaker 2: Yes, she's sort of getting to that.
Speaker 3: Age now where she's halfway through three and she's a
Speaker 3: bit of a threeen ager.
Speaker 1: Three is the toughest, say three ager.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, she's really quiet, as we know. But that's
Speaker 3: a problem because she seems to be always up to
Speaker 3: no good.
Speaker 2: But silently.
Speaker 3: And I'm concerned because Oscar easy easy to figure out
Speaker 3: what he's doing because he doesn't stop yapping.
Speaker 2: So he's committing a crime and someone okay, here we go.
Speaker 3: If someone's committing a crime and they haven't stopped talking
Speaker 3: to through the whole crime, it's Oscar, okay, because he
Speaker 3: doesn't shut up. Macy not so much. You sort of
Speaker 3: walk in on her doing devious things all the time.
Speaker 3: And I kept walking around the house and finding headless
Speaker 3: lego men hear me out weird. Yeah, at first I
Speaker 3: was like, there's a lego body just on the floor.
Speaker 2: That's not a crime scene, or is it?
Speaker 3: And I kept finding them all over the place, to
Speaker 3: the point where I had torsos no heads, that's all.
Speaker 2: Through the house. The dog.
Speaker 3: Maybe I thought maybe they're just I don't know, maybe
Speaker 3: King George lives here. I don't know, like fuck, like
Speaker 3: just bodies scattered good head wat.
Speaker 2: Little ancient history joke from you there, Thank you. King
Speaker 2: George didn't even laugh. You fuck her? You're like, you
Speaker 2: didn't say which king George.
Speaker 3: Kick the fifth? I don't know fuck one that would
Speaker 3: be head? Whatever is that?
Speaker 2: Do you mean?
Speaker 3: Do I look like a history teacher's being on? Maybe
Speaker 3: the one that be headed?
Speaker 2: Everybody? Don't? Sorry, didn't they when they all be headers?
Speaker 2: Henry the eighth? Thank you? Jes Jess is informing us
Speaker 2: she's googled that for sure.
Speaker 3: Anyway, I kept finding these bodies everywhere, and and I
Speaker 3: was like, where are all the heads?
Speaker 2: Who's doing what with the heads? Now?
Speaker 3: Macy has a toy kitchen. You know, there's big toy kitchen.
Speaker 3: She's always making food. She brings it out here, not
Speaker 3: real food, like fake food anyway, So I want to
Speaker 3: show you.
Speaker 2: Her kitchen.
Speaker 1: Oh god, okay, what are those tribes ash where they
Speaker 1: they like they shrink the heads?
Speaker 2: Is it Papa Guinea? What what do they do that?
Speaker 2: Track me the microwave?
Speaker 1: There's like these tribes they like shrink the hang on.
Speaker 1: Let me just want that really quickly. No, yes, so
Speaker 1: the Amazonian tribes. So I don't like if you're from
Speaker 1: Pupping Guinea, didn't mean to attack you there, accuse you
Speaker 1: of something you're not doing but they would shrink the heads.
Speaker 1: I think they put it in vinegar. You watch Ripley's believe.
Speaker 3: It or not.
Speaker 2: I know how i'd dispose of a body.
Speaker 3: Now, I've just passed this on to Macy, the serial
Speaker 3: killer of the household anyway, So I've gone to her kitchen, yep, okay,
Speaker 3: And in her kitchen she has a fake microwave. I'll
Speaker 3: get you to just press play on this and you'll
Speaker 3: notice something else in the video as.
Speaker 2: Well that she's stashing in there from previous episodes. What's that?
Speaker 2: What do we got? Oh my god?
Speaker 1: This is like a graveyard of a serial killer.
Speaker 3: So she's pulling the heads off the lego, leaving the
Speaker 3: torsos throughout the house, storing the heads in a makeshift cot.
Speaker 2: He's like darb in the microwave. Who's that serial kill Dama?
Speaker 2: You remember him? Wasn't that Jeffrey Dahma?
Speaker 3: Dama? Macy Dama. You've got what's next to it? Eclipsement
Speaker 3: If you're not familiar. Macy is addicted to eclipse mints,
Speaker 3: and we spoke about this a long time ago, where
Speaker 3: she's an addict. I catch her climbing all sorts of
Speaker 3: furniture to get to eclipse mints. But she's got a
Speaker 3: stash of eclipse mints what in her microwave.
Speaker 2: Along with the heads of all the lego. Wow, there's
Speaker 2: a lot to unpack here. There's a lot to unpack.
Speaker 2: Are we concerned? Absolutely? Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was concerned when I found all the book flaps
Speaker 3: under the bed. Remember this is this is another staty.
Speaker 3: Any psychologists listening in, what does this mean? What does
Speaker 3: this mean for Macy?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Red flags? I think.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 2: The fact is.
Speaker 3: She's got like an m O like most serial killers have,
Speaker 3: which is pop the head, discard the body where wherever.
Speaker 2: She's and she wants to keep something to remember them
Speaker 2: by just keeping it, and then she puts it in there.
Speaker 2: So that's her whole Oh my god. So I'm concerned.
Speaker 3: I'll keep you posting sleep with one io.
Speaker 2: He doesn't know. I know.
Speaker 3: I put that back confront her. I will be don't
Speaker 3: you worry, like with the book thing, and she ran
Speaker 3: like a proper criminal to you right now, she will
Speaker 3: be Leganette. Anyway, that's one thing you've missed, and the
Speaker 3: second thing you've missed is and I don't know if
Speaker 3: this is a known hack but I April has taught
Speaker 3: the kids something that I thought was genius and I
Speaker 3: want to see what you think and whether you do it.
Speaker 3: So I'll just explain it to you and then i'll
Speaker 3: show you the little video and for the listeners of course,
Speaker 3: because this is an audio medium. It is winter, as
Speaker 3: you know here in Australia, it is winter, and it
Speaker 3: does get cold in winter, believe it or not. Really,
Speaker 3: so we're talking multiple layers on adults and children of clothes.
Speaker 2: Do you have any heater in your house? Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: in the kids room. What do you have? It's just
Speaker 2: like an oil heater, that's all. We've got.
Speaker 3: Jesus christro and no insulation under the floor and it's
Speaker 3: just timber flooring.
Speaker 2: It's like walking on ice.
Speaker 3: I have never been cold, like properly cold until living
Speaker 3: until now.
Speaker 2: It's also I feel like when you get older, you
Speaker 2: get colder. Yeah, that's that's the thing too. And also
Speaker 2: you've dropped a bit of weight. That's just some shreddy
Speaker 2: just not eating. What was I doing?
Speaker 3: Yes, it's cold, so multiple layers and sometimes that would
Speaker 3: include of a long sleeve shirt with a long sleeve
Speaker 3: jumper and when you put a jumper on over a
Speaker 3: long sleeve.
Speaker 1: What happens? Okay, so this is one thing that kids hate.
Speaker 1: The sleeve of the T shirt will.
Speaker 2: Then ride up. Yes, and.
Speaker 1: It's like it's I don't know why, it's just so
Speaker 1: triggering for kids when it happens. Trier girl this morning
Speaker 1: with Lola put the jumper on, and she's very sensory,
Speaker 1: and when that happens, when it was riding up, it
Speaker 1: was like she had a scorpion under her jumper.
Speaker 3: She was like, God, duddy, I'm going to solve this
Speaker 3: problem for you. Well, April, my wife is going to
Speaker 3: solve this for you. This is Oscar this morning putting
Speaker 3: on his little raincoat jacket thing over a long sleep.
Speaker 1: Okay, this better be good. She's cracked the code.
Speaker 2: See what she's done there. Oscar pulls the sleeve up
Speaker 2: to the palm of his hand.
Speaker 3: He puts a finger over it so his hand can
Speaker 3: still go through, and once he gets through, its close enough.
Speaker 3: He lets go and the sleeve ends up perfectly where
Speaker 3: the sleeve is.
Speaker 2: What does Oscar think of this hack?
Speaker 3: He does it on his own. He's learnt it. It's
Speaker 3: not just here do this, it's like, here, do this,
Speaker 3: and he just continues.
Speaker 2: To do it. He did that without anyone even asking.
Speaker 1: If only kids out there would know about this hack,
Speaker 1: the amount of trauma that would be reduced in the
Speaker 1: lives of young children all around the country, especially now
Speaker 1: being winter, even.
Speaker 2: Around the world old seasons are a world. Is this
Speaker 2: the best hack that we've ever had? I think it
Speaker 2: might be.
Speaker 3: I think it's the most simplest, cost effective.
Speaker 2: How can we monetize this, jess Jessica, you're about to
Speaker 2: say something? Oh, Jesse, hang on, this rich coming from
Speaker 2: someone with their kids? Are we dumb? Ash? Maybe?
Speaker 1: Is this something that is just such common knowledge that
Speaker 1: it's almost laughable.
Speaker 2: That we don't know? Yeah? I hope so? Is this
Speaker 2: be hilarious?
Speaker 1: Are we just we effectively told people to tie their
Speaker 1: shoelacers before leaving the house?
Speaker 2: Is that I always done after I leave the house?
Speaker 2: I mean, we'll find out. Let us know.
Speaker 1: If this is such common knowledge that it's laughable that
Speaker 1: we're telling you about it, we will withhold informing you
Speaker 1: about any more hacks.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, nah, I think this is great. I think
Speaker 3: a life changing.
Speaker 1: I think too, And I want to be responsible for
Speaker 1: expanding the knowledge of parents not just in Australia again
Speaker 1: all around the world. Right now, we will be responsible
Speaker 1: for improving the lives of so many.
Speaker 2: So many.
Speaker 3: And I will say we could get it from the
Speaker 3: horse's mouth because we are going to call.
Speaker 2: April about a separate issue later on the track.
Speaker 3: Later in this episode we can talk to about what
Speaker 3: other information is she withholding from us?
Speaker 2: So if you stick around then you might find out.
Speaker 2: How's a fucking good tease? Do you want to do around? Yes?
Speaker 3: Math, sorry, yes, Matthew. It is time for one of
Speaker 3: our favorite segments. I'd say arguably the favorite, the favorite,
Speaker 3: and I would say the song is Aria Award nominee potential.
Speaker 2: Well said, let's play it.
Speaker 3: You dosly regression.
Speaker 2: You don't want sou just tell me what your parent?
Speaker 3: Do you want my crand party at the shirts. You
Speaker 3: don't want advance from strangers, Go and tell me what
Speaker 3: is your parent?
Speaker 1: Are we gonna have any tap on the shoulders from
Speaker 1: the record the record the record label to say hey, we're.
Speaker 3: Just showing that jumperhack and they'll back right off and
Speaker 3: they're like, you gave us something.
Speaker 1: We do not want to go to court with these
Speaker 1: these guys.
Speaker 2: This is my favorite segment.
Speaker 1: It is, of course parents just it's an opportunity for
Speaker 1: any parents out there, not just myself and Ash, but
Speaker 1: for all the listeners to just get something off their
Speaker 1: chest that is grinding their gears, making them a little
Speaker 1: bit off, making themselves a little bit frustrated. You need
Speaker 1: to give these situations, O gen well said.
Speaker 2: I will say, you really teed that up. We had
Speaker 2: a great one.
Speaker 3: Okay, go from Hugh. Hello, Hugh, Hugh from the Facebook group. Ah,
Speaker 3: you from the Facebook grof.
Speaker 2: If you're not in the Facebook group, it's on Facebook.
Speaker 2: He's in there. He's in there. If you want to
Speaker 2: hang out with you, who's in there? He isn't there? Okay?
Speaker 2: In the group?
Speaker 1: Okay from Hugh. This is Hugh's pay rant. Daycare centers
Speaker 1: charging you normal day rates on a public holiday when
Speaker 1: they are closed has to be the.
Speaker 2: Biggest pyramid scheme going around. First of all pyramid scheme.
Speaker 2: No or.
Speaker 1: He goes on to say, the poor parents with kids
Speaker 1: booked in for Mondays and Fridays.
Speaker 2: Are suffering a great injustice.
Speaker 3: I feel like we definitely have talked about this before,
Speaker 3: but I wasn't a rant.
Speaker 2: It was like just in passing I feel like a
Speaker 2: long time ago.
Speaker 1: Let's just clarify that this is not attack on the
Speaker 1: daycare teachers, the staff.
Speaker 3: No, the staff are the backbone them, rural doctors, dentists, mechanics,
Speaker 3: the backbone of our nation.
Speaker 2: This is an attack on the system. Fuck the system, man,
Speaker 2: the system.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's got to be it's got to be
Speaker 1: a fucking joke.
Speaker 2: Right period. Scheme is the wrong scheme.
Speaker 3: That's I feel like the daycares aren't going out to
Speaker 3: other daycares giving them this idea and they're growing in numbers.
Speaker 2: That's what a pyramid scheme is, right, correct. This is
Speaker 2: a general scheme scheme. This is a ripoff scheme. This
Speaker 2: is a ripoff scheme. Match, this is a this is
Speaker 2: a gas light scheme, if you will, it's a gas
Speaker 2: lighting ripoff scheme.
Speaker 3: Because I'm aware orchestrated by system, the system, the daycare
Speaker 3: system of Australia.
Speaker 1: I'd love to know what happens in other countries. But here,
Speaker 1: if you were booked in on a day that as
Speaker 1: a public holiday, they still charge you full rates. You're
Speaker 1: still paying for it. How the hell does that work?
Speaker 1: When I was previously we had the kids and on
Speaker 1: a Monday and a Friday. Man, it was it didn't
Speaker 1: make any sense, Ash, I reckon, pet parents have something
Speaker 1: to do with it. Hundreds of dollars every single year wasted.
Speaker 1: I mean, what is the answer here? How how can
Speaker 1: they get away with such blatant ripoffery.
Speaker 3: Well, let's well, I think we should get in touched
Speaker 3: with someone who might know who was working.
Speaker 2: We used to work for this. Just give my beautiful
Speaker 2: You're like, sorry, I won't answer it. She's a busy Hello, darling,
Speaker 2: how are.
Speaker 3: You good what you're doing working?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Right, you're not working for a daycare, are you?
Speaker 2: You're not? No, I don't worry. There's a dumb joke
Speaker 2: from it.
Speaker 3: We had a parent message in with a rant, and
Speaker 3: I just want to give you some context on the
Speaker 3: rant and you having previous work experience at a childcare center.
Speaker 2: Also, you have children in my room, April.
Speaker 1: Can you just confirm how long did you work as
Speaker 1: an early educator?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: I think like seven or eight years?
Speaker 2: Oh wow, wow, wow, almost a decade. Yeah.
Speaker 3: She used to get sick so much because oh my god,
Speaker 3: Like she would come home and she'd be like, oh,
Speaker 3: one of the kids was sick.
Speaker 2: I'm like, great, now I'm going to be sick. Here
Speaker 2: we go again. And when I got sacked from every
Speaker 2: job I had the question the rant.
Speaker 3: Is that these childcare.
Speaker 2: Centers, the system as we call them.
Speaker 3: Are charging people still for public holidays when they're closed.
Speaker 2: Do you know why that might be? Uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think because you still have to pay the staff.
Speaker 2: So you're paying. It's like it's like a voting for
Speaker 2: the day because the stuff still get paid. But they
Speaker 2: want to get paid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because if it wasn't a public holiday, they would
Speaker 3: be working, right, So the I mean, I know they're
Speaker 3: probably like, we would work, but bullshit?
Speaker 2: Is it justifier? Though? But but you're not. We're not.
Speaker 2: We're not using the daycare though it's closed.
Speaker 4: Well, fun fact, the day care that we just moved
Speaker 4: from now means he's only casually there now offers free
Speaker 4: public holiday casual days to replace the day that you
Speaker 4: paid for and it just started when we've already left
Speaker 4: that one get lost.
Speaker 2: Yeah okay, so hang on a minute.
Speaker 3: So if okay, every kid that would be there on
Speaker 3: the Monday they just gone, would get a free casual
Speaker 3: day at any time to use down the track.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, is this a government thing or just no.
Speaker 4: I think some centers did it. Ours definitely didn't until
Speaker 4: we left and then they decided.
Speaker 2: They'll do that.
Speaker 1: And to that center, we commend you. We do your bravery.
Speaker 3: Yeah wow, not being compliant with a system that is
Speaker 3: destroying families all around the country. Just breaking away from
Speaker 3: the stigma that is it's the system.
Speaker 4: Weirdly, like, I don't think you get charged on like
Speaker 4: Christmas Day and stuff.
Speaker 2: If that's a public that.
Speaker 3: Would just be on Christmas, like, wouldn't it. Yeah, where's
Speaker 3: your Christmas spirit? Here's a bill they thought a head
Speaker 3: for that one? Right? What else did we want to
Speaker 3: ask her that we were just talking about before?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, who taught you the jumper hack?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, I have no idea.
Speaker 4: Maybe I got taught it. Maybe it's a generational thing.
Speaker 2: I've been taught. Poppa's got something to do with it,
Speaker 2: for sure. Yeah, Papa would be able.
Speaker 4: To it as a kid and whatnot.
Speaker 3: So Papa would be able to tuck that in and
Speaker 3: somehow land a hanky in there at the same time.
Speaker 4: Is it not known? It's a universal hack?
Speaker 2: Isn't it? Just?
Speaker 1: I put Lolla's jumper on this morning and it rolled
Speaker 1: up the sleeves underneath.
Speaker 2: We had his tantrums. I didn't know about it until now.
Speaker 2: Well now you do.
Speaker 4: You're welcome.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you, Papa, I'll say, because that seems
Speaker 3: very proper, like.
Speaker 2: Probably all right, well April, what are you wearing? I mean,
Speaker 2: I'll see you later, all right, love you you later.
Speaker 2: I have good day. Love you, love you, love you,
Speaker 2: bye bye. You hang up one, two, three, you go
Speaker 2: by bye. Oh my god, you guys are so adorable.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: I sh se, well there you go. So I say,
Speaker 3: fair rant on that pair.
Speaker 2: Rant, See what did you do? Just shake it ahead.
Speaker 2: You've missed this. I say, that's fair rant.
Speaker 3: And hopefully they can suggest to their childcare center that
Speaker 3: others are doing this and that's actually a pyramid scheme.
Speaker 1: Then if you're if you're a daycare listening in, if
Speaker 1: you're like a daycare ceo, just think about it, Okay.
Speaker 2: Think about who you're hurting. Yeah, with your government mandated legislation,
Speaker 2: they're like, our hands are tired, but we'll give you
Speaker 2: three days. If that's what you want. That's you should.
Speaker 2: We go into some questions to finish off today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got some questions here. Ash and we have
Speaker 1: recently been doing a little segment in the listener question.
Speaker 1: We have been doing fucking Jesus can't talk, Yes, Ash
Speaker 1: we should, And we've been doing the last couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: we've been doing like our top three it and one
Speaker 1: that really kicked off was things you Shouldn't Say to
Speaker 1: a parent?
Speaker 3: And the list is it really is endless, Like there's
Speaker 3: so many things you shouldn't say to a parent.
Speaker 1: So I thought it would be remiss of us not
Speaker 1: to do things you shouldn't say to a parent.
Speaker 2: Cart I love it. Put some silly music behind that.
Speaker 2: Please do.
Speaker 3: Because you're a bunch of clowns. If you say any
Speaker 3: of this to a parent, thank you. All right, So
Speaker 3: we've got a list here, yeah, and we're going to
Speaker 3: just rattle off a few and then if you've got
Speaker 3: any that you want to share with us, please on
Speaker 3: the Facebook group, Instagram, TikTok, whatever you want to do,
Speaker 3: shout it into the universe and we'll try and pick
Speaker 3: it up and put it in.
Speaker 2: Don't do that.
Speaker 1: Definitely, definitely messages smoke signals. Definitely message us. Please if
Speaker 1: people are like.
Speaker 3: I was screaming out for weeks, I'll hear you go on,
Speaker 3: well here, okay, first one. This one really infuriates me
Speaker 3: when someone tries to resonate with what you're saying by saying,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: What I'm going to do. I have a dog, so
Speaker 2: I totally understand. No, you do not.
Speaker 3: They think what they're doing is lightening the load on you, saying, oh,
Speaker 3: we do that too, so you don't feel so abnormal.
Speaker 2: Don't talk to us.
Speaker 1: It would be like someone losing their arm in a
Speaker 1: car accident and going, I know that's like I once
Speaker 1: got a splinter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I cut my fingernail too short. One day it's
Speaker 3: irritating and you're like, I haven't had a lean. My
Speaker 3: limb is missing. Yeah I did not just say my look,
Speaker 3: it was the next one.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Oh, it goes so fast, you'll miss this one day.
Speaker 2: I fucking hate when people say that. Don't wish the days,
Speaker 2: admit the messy hands on the walls. One day that'll
Speaker 2: be gone and you miss it. Like when will I
Speaker 2: miss that? Yeah? I don't. I get the premise of it.
Speaker 3: It's like you'll miss the like you'll miss the little
Speaker 3: cuddle tomit the kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah get that.
Speaker 3: I get that, But I'm wishing I get home and
Speaker 3: I'm like it's four o'clock. I'm like, funk, I wish
Speaker 3: it was six o'clock.
Speaker 1: I am not going to miss like begging my child
Speaker 1: to eat a mouthful of their dinner and then putting
Speaker 1: up with a child that is screaming that it hates
Speaker 1: you because you're trying to wash its hair. Oh man,
Speaker 1: there's lots of ads a parenting a young child that
Speaker 1: I will definitely not miss, And you trying to say that,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm going to miss those parts of parenting.
Speaker 1: Do you have any people who say that we're not
Speaker 1: a fucking hands on parent?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's usually the grandparents saying that sort of shit. Right,
Speaker 3: if a young person says that they've been brainwashed by
Speaker 3: an older person, idiots for sure. All right, Next one,
Speaker 3: which is sort of like similar to the grandparent thing.
Speaker 3: They love to do this one, and I'll try to
Speaker 3: put some context around it.
Speaker 2: For example, if your.
Speaker 3: Child's not sleeping, that's a really it's a low loan
Speaker 3: through that one. And my mum would say it, and
Speaker 3: other mum's mums would say it where they're like.
Speaker 2: Have you tried this? Have you tried putting them in bed.
Speaker 3: Yes, like fuck off, Like it's always that generation you
Speaker 3: do that.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I've done that a number of any parents out
Speaker 1: there that I've said that too. And this is when
Speaker 1: I had Marley, who was a great sleeper, and I
Speaker 1: was just like, have.
Speaker 2: You tried to swaddle? Swaddling? Try a different dummy? Or
Speaker 2: what we do is we sorry you do? Okay?
Speaker 3: I have said that. No one's perfect. Don't say that.
Speaker 3: Don't say have you tried? I know it's a suggestion
Speaker 3: and very lighthearted, but it's usually coming from a place of,
Speaker 3: like I say, from grandparents, where they think whatever they
Speaker 3: say is right just because of their age and their experience.
Speaker 3: It's like, you used to beat kids in your generation.
Speaker 2: You tried beating that kid.
Speaker 1: Just always remind my mom about that, and.
Speaker 3: She's like, I never I always say to my parents
Speaker 3: our woodenspoons for cooking. Only when you announce her expecting
Speaker 3: and someone says, oh, were you trying? No, it was
Speaker 3: an accident, starting your business, an abortion, Oh my god.
Speaker 2: It's none of your business. It's like, look, I didn't
Speaker 2: know you were trying. No, you were trying. I didn't
Speaker 2: know that you were mounting her. What's that about? What's
Speaker 2: that about.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it doesn't matter really if you ask me.
Speaker 3: But look, we're I think we're all guilty of saying
Speaker 3: that once here and there next one.
Speaker 2: This is just like back in my day.
Speaker 3: Oh, never start a sentence to a parent if you're older.
Speaker 2: I really hate the grandparents. I'm really into it. Sorry,
Speaker 2: pop up and my parents. I guess they exist too.
Speaker 3: And it's it's like, yeah, back, if you're going to
Speaker 3: start a sentence with back in my day, just back
Speaker 3: right up.
Speaker 1: I'm going to flip this and instead of attacking the
Speaker 1: older generation, I'm going to attack the younger generation. Here
Speaker 1: he is, okay, yeah, I'm becoming more TEENI every week
Speaker 1: down down those electric bikes when they and like, this
Speaker 1: doesn't happen as much anymore, but because I dog working
Speaker 1: in office. But if anyone on a Friday or Thursday,
Speaker 1: if they say, have you got any exciting plans for
Speaker 1: the weekend, and I'm like, I'm going to go to
Speaker 1: a park for a couple of hours.
Speaker 2: Well, buy another park for a few hours, and.
Speaker 1: I maybe watched some cartoons with the kids, And that
Speaker 1: is what I'm doing.
Speaker 3: Get some broken sleep. I'm gonna yell at a child
Speaker 3: to try and eat all weekend.
Speaker 2: I'll do a couple of loads of washing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll have to follow me everything I do around
Speaker 3: all the time. It's such a good way to be like, hey,
Speaker 3: it really screams have a good shit weekend.
Speaker 2: The weekend just gone. That gurnying that was the highlight. Reprieve.
Speaker 2: That was the highlight, dude. People were like, did you
Speaker 2: get up too much?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I washed some pavers and that was
Speaker 1: the highlight of my week.
Speaker 2: It was like a holiday fuck. And he's like, came
Speaker 2: near me. I just hit it with the water. Perfect.
Speaker 2: Last one. This is so triggering. This last one's triggering me.
Speaker 2: Come on, why do I feel like this.
Speaker 3: Is coming from a grandparent as well or just.
Speaker 2: Someone with older kids.
Speaker 3: They say, if you think this is hard, just wait until.
Speaker 2: I get that.
Speaker 1: All the time with the girls, because they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: teenage girls, that's another kettle of fish.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, especially because you've were all girls.
Speaker 1: I know you want to manage my expectations, but just
Speaker 1: the ignorance is bliss.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't want someone being like with Oscar.
Speaker 3: It's like, you think it's hard, now wait till he's
Speaker 3: committing petty crime. Waiting until I'll tell you right now,
Speaker 3: I'm waiting. Maybe they'll lock him up and I'll get
Speaker 3: some real reprieve.
Speaker 1: Ash before we go. I have one very quick question
Speaker 1: that I'd love to ask you.
Speaker 2: On behalf of Gemma. Hello Gemma.
Speaker 1: This was submitted in the Facebook group a number of
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Jemmy with a JA or Jemmy with the
Speaker 1: G Jemmy with the G. Jimmy goff gg good game.
Speaker 1: She says, advice what to do when your toddler comes
Speaker 1: home from daycare and starts pinching you non stop. She
Speaker 1: finds it hilarious. No matter what we try or say, help.
Speaker 3: Gemma finds it hilarious or the child finds it hilarious. No,
Speaker 3: I think the child or God first of all, Matt,
Speaker 3: we don't give it. You're being assaulted right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, call the police. That's my advice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, call the police. And sometimes you know, police will
Speaker 1: do like a home visit to try and scare a child.
Speaker 1: I think that's what you need. That's not bad, that's
Speaker 1: not about it.
Speaker 3: I think you could go because they're obviously learning it
Speaker 3: from somewhere, and I think if they're coming home from daycare.
Speaker 3: They're learning it there, so to outlearn it, it's their responsibility.
Speaker 3: So what I would do is I would threaten the
Speaker 3: teacher and say I'll start pinching you every time that
Speaker 3: kid pinches me unless you teach it out of us.
Speaker 1: But again, we love our early educators.
Speaker 2: In this country. I'm out of going my kid hit me.
Speaker 2: Every time my kid hits me, I'm going to hit you.
Speaker 1: When she's getting locked up for assaulting teachers. I just
Speaker 1: pinch back the child. Give the child a taste of
Speaker 1: its own medicine.
Speaker 2: Yeah that too. Do you like it? You don't like it?
Speaker 3: If that reminds me of like when I, like, I
Speaker 3: tried to do a little learning moment with Macy where
Speaker 3: it was like she was getting what was she doing?
Speaker 3: I said to her, Okay, look, how would it feel
Speaker 3: if you.
Speaker 2: Ask mommy and daddy to do something and we just
Speaker 2: didn't do it for you? How would you feel? And
Speaker 2: she's like sad.
Speaker 3: I'm like, so, when we ask you to do something
Speaker 3: for us and you don't do it, how do you think.
Speaker 2: We feel you're a good parent? Sad? And I was like,
Speaker 2: so do you understand?
Speaker 3: And she was like nah, no, I was like, okay,
Speaker 3: well I'm going to pinch you now, so fuck.
Speaker 2: She's like, stop talking to me. I want to kill
Speaker 2: some Lego toys. I want to pinch the head of
Speaker 2: a Lego toy. Ash.
Speaker 1: Yes, if you have joined this podcast, maybe for the
Speaker 1: first time, maybe this is your first episode.
Speaker 2: This is one hundred and fifty first episode. Thank you
Speaker 2: very much. I think it's more than that, isn't No, no, yes,
Speaker 2: you're right. Sorry, congratulations to you. Thank you very much,
Speaker 2: very kind of you.
Speaker 1: What should people do right now if they've just joined us,
Speaker 1: it's the first episode?
Speaker 3: What like? What like subscribe, leave a review, five stars,
Speaker 3: share it with ten friends? Like a pyramid scheme? Just
Speaker 3: go to the social media share that with ten friends.
Speaker 3: Just a bunch of pyramids.
Speaker 1: Please scheme your way to success, they say, well said,
Speaker 1: and get it on a T shirt schemulated success.
Speaker 2: That's next merch. Speaking of merch, we have T shirts.
Speaker 1: I'm wearing one smelling happy teas on our website, Foodoting
Speaker 1: Dads dot com.
Speaker 2: Ash, you need to get a flight. We need to
Speaker 2: get out of here. Goodbye, see you guys. Bye.
Speaker 3: Who's in the group. Who's in the group? Facebook group?
Speaker 2: Dan and then and then and then there you go.
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