1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: Wanting me live in the studio right now. It's the 2 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Northern Territory Fire and Rescue Service Chief Fire Officer Mark Spain. 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Good morning to you. 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, Good morning listeners. 5 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: Now an incredibly busy time at the moment for our 6 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: fires and Spainy. We did just get a text message 7 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: a short time ago from Judith saying, Hi, Katie, there's 8 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: a large fire behind Lake Leana which looks as though 9 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: it's moving towards homes. What's the situation from your perspective? 10 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks very much, Catie. Yes, we have got a 11 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 3: situation occurring there. I've got Morra and Berry mccruz there. 12 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 3: We'll probably dispatch volunteers into there shortly. We have Bushfires 13 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 3: anti aircraft up there to give us an overall picture, so. 14 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: We'll get that map properly. 15 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 3: But if people have got concerns, is just to keep 16 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 3: all the windows closed, especially for smoke. There are high 17 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 3: winds at the moment. We are in a fire danger 18 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 3: period today. 19 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: And so are there any threat? Is there any threat 20 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: to homes at this point in time. 21 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, we'll have assets on there. There's always potential 22 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 3: threat if people have prepared their blocks properly. We know 23 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 3: they're five acre blocks in behind there, so in the 24 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 3: wind direction, so we will put our assets in there 25 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 3: to do asset protection, but we'll keep the reports coming through. 26 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, sounds good. We'll certainly keep an eye 27 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: on things as well. Are there any other fires still 28 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: sort of going at the moment of still smoldering that 29 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 1: you guys are concerned about? 30 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? 31 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: Probably. 32 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,639 Speaker 3: I think the issue we have with the high winds 33 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 3: is that we can't always put all the bushfires out, 34 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 3: so they could be smoldering for days, like stumps burning 35 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: underground hollows. So if that gets a run, we will 36 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 3: attend to it. But having a fire danger days is 37 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 3: always a concern to us, but it's more of a 38 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 3: concern when we come onto what we call shoulder days. 39 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 3: So they're not fire danger fireband days, they are the 40 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 3: days either side of those firebands, which will cause us 41 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 3: a bit of grief as well, because the winds will 42 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: still be there, but it's just not reaching the temperatures 43 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 3: that would classes as a fireband. 44 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: Yeah right, And I did notice this morning when I 45 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: woke up how windy it was. What kind of impact 46 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: does that have for you guys? Then when you are 47 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: fighting those fires. 48 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: What it does. Luckily we've got bushfires and tea. 49 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 3: They put on extra aircraft for us across here, so 50 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 3: we can get eyes in the sky fairly quickly. But 51 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 3: what actually happens is we get a lot of spotting 52 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 3: fire spotting, so they can start two or three four 53 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 3: hundred meters ahead of the actual firefront. Then that also spreads, 54 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: so we've just got to be able to try and 55 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 3: head them. 56 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 2: Off for the pass. 57 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: And how are things looking for today, like, you know, 58 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 1: other conditions quite concerning or how are you feeling about today? 59 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, all five band days are concerning for us, as 60 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 3: are the shoulder days as I've just talked about. 61 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: But as we saw the other day. 62 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 3: On Monday, you know, one fire kicked off in the 63 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: afternoon and then all of a sudden, we've got every 64 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 3: asset five aircraft up in the air. Even though one 65 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 3: listener described them as cessna's flying around having a sticky beak, 66 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 3: they're actually our water bombers working. So yeah, we've got that, 67 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 3: And we just wanted people to mindful if they're on 68 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 3: the roads and that's thick smoke going across the roads. 69 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 3: We can't get to everything. We tried our best to 70 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 3: slow traffic down and put traffic management in, but it's 71 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: such a rapid, fast moving with these wins. Slow down, 72 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 3: headlights on, don't drive like maniacs because we all struggle 73 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 3: to get to you from a ray crash rescue purpose. 74 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: Yeah right, So is that because you've just got so 75 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: many firefighters on the actual fires. 76 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: That's it. 77 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 3: We pretty well get everything out on there. We will 78 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: deploy assets, We have our rescue tenders ready to go. 79 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 3: But as you can imagine smoke going across the road, 80 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 3: people trapped in cars, it's just not going to be 81 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 3: a difficult it will be a difficult position. 82 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: Spainy, have people been largely sort of adhering to that 83 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: message in terms of not driving through the really smoky 84 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: areas or have some people been doing the wrong thing 85 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: in this space. 86 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 2: Let's just be blunt here, Cadie. 87 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 3: When people have got forty k zones sixty k zones 88 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: in clear air, people don't adhere to that. So when 89 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 3: they're approached with smoke, it's just like at the beginning 90 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 3: of the wet season, people drive to the conditions of 91 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 3: dry season. Therefore, I just need people to focus on 92 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: what's ahead of them drive to the conditions and drive 93 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: to their own ability. 94 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 4: Now I do want to ask you. 95 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: I know that the seasonal bush fire outlook has now 96 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: been released for September to November. How's that looking for 97 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,679 Speaker 1: us in the Northern Territory at this point? 98 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 3: It's looking if you go, what's going on? We're pretty 99 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 3: chuffed with that because we're looking at early rains coming through, 100 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: so the humidity will pick up later on September October. 101 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: So we're looking at some positive early rains as predicted 102 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: by the bomb and if that comes to fruitionan we'll 103 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 3: put us in a better state. But mind you, that 104 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 3: goes for the whole of the territory, but also we 105 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 3: do go into the Alice Springs or the southern region 106 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: becomes our fire season as the summer months come on. 107 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: Now we also know today in some good news, you've 108 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: got some of the firefighters, the graduate firefighters. 109 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: They're going to be graduating absolutely after nineteen weeks of 110 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 3: training at the college. We've got them marching out today. 111 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 3: We'll have for those members going to Alice Springs and 112 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 3: the other eight will remain up and daln On shift 113 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 3: across the greata Dalane area in Palmerston. What happens there though, 114 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: is they will hit the road running straight into the 115 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 3: fire season. 116 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: But in that nineteen. 117 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 3: Weeks they've actually learned a fair bit over ray crash rescue, 118 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 3: has matt structured fires, compartment fire training, urban search and rescue. 119 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 3: So there's a whole lot of skills that they've been 120 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: passed on to by the instructors. I have to do 121 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 3: a big shout out to the instructors, given that COVID 122 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 3: has really hampered our ability to have resourcing available and 123 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 3: all that sort of stuff. They've had to mix and 124 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 3: match and make everything work. So it's real credit to them. 125 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 3: But congratulations to the forests who are going to graduate today. 126 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 4: Absolutely wonderful stuff. And are they are? Some of them 127 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 4: sort of territory born and bred. Do you know Spainy. 128 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, one's a return offender. 129 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 3: He's a great guy. He went and served in the military. 130 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 3: He did his service to the military. He's re signed 131 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 3: with us after a number of years and pleasingly, we've 132 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 3: got a number of exhilar fire fighters that work on 133 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 3: my five track stations. They've taken a big step and 134 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 3: become crew fire fighters. 135 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 4: Oh that's wonderful stuff. 136 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: Fantastic and no doubt they're going to be busy as 137 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: soon as they start, by the look of thanks. 138 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 3: Their first shift, they'll be hitting the road and they'll 139 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: be on the ground running. 140 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 141 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 4: Good stuff. 142 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: Well, Mark Spain, the Chief Fire Officer for the Northern 143 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: Territory Fire and Rescue Service. We appreciate your time and 144 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: I know that it's a really busy, busy time for 145 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: you guys. 146 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 4: When is that severe fire danger due to end? 147 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: It's probably we're looking at today twelve o'clock tonight. 148 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: Yep. 149 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 3: However, I just asked the listeners to be miful shoulder days. 150 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 3: Shoulder days are extremely so if you'll just be careful 151 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 3: to avoid grinding, avoid slashing even on the shoulder days, 152 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 3: if you could. 153 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, good advice. Mark Spain, thanks so much for your 154 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:45,119 Speaker 4: time this morning. 155 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: Thanks Cotie,