1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nation Ale Colplay. 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 2: Hardly hear them mentioned over the weekend. 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: Possible shower today nineteen degrees in the city and in 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: our west right now is ten degrees. That song two 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: thousand and three, it came out on this day, all 6 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: those years ago. 7 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: Let's talk about No, we're not going, are we not. No, 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: it's not the pub test, not the pub test. 9 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 3: I love the atmosphere. 10 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 2: You're ready to go into the pub too early. 11 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 3: Oh that's coming up next to the pub it is. 12 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: But we are going to talk about this whole situation 13 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: of the CEO and the HR woman who have been 14 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: caught canoodling on JumboTron at Coldplay, and it seems too. 15 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: It's interesting because there's a couple of ways of looking 16 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: at this. It's united the whole world in the glee 17 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: that we've all felt at this situation. It's gone hugely viral. 18 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: A girl filmed this because she saw, as we said earlier, 19 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: an unusual reaction to the jumbo tron when they're enjoying 20 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: watching the show. Suddenly, oh god, it's us. He dug down. 21 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: She turns around, looks uncomfortable. 22 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: When it came up on the jumbos try on screen, 23 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: and I know I've been on holiday, so I've sort. 24 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 3: Of dipped into the periphery of this. 25 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: There would have been ten thousand people that saw that, 26 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: so there would have been a lot of people filming that. 27 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 3: That particular money. Well, not necessarily say the jumbo trcke 28 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 3: who's responsible? 29 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 2: Well, the thing is there, Chris Martin says, well, or 30 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 2: either obviously having an affair or they're shy making a joke. 31 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: And it was a young girl who or a young 32 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: woman who filmed then, who was filming that, and she 33 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: thought this looks uncomfortable and funny and just posted it 34 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: thinking it's a funny video. And then she has said 35 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 2: after that, she said this phrase saying, look, I don't 36 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 2: know who they are. I didn't know any of that. 37 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: Maybe I feel a bit bad for them, but she said, here, 38 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: play stupid games, win stupid prizes. 39 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: I've spoken to a few people just over the break 40 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: about this particular thing. 41 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 3: There's not much sympathy for the couple, that's for sure. 42 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: It's interesting, isn't it that, As I said, it seems 43 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: to have united the world in things that people don't like, 44 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: which your CEOs hr coldplay to many people. Yeah, but 45 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: there's another way also of looking at this, because the 46 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: glee that people have felt, and I've shared memes, I've 47 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: laughed at it. I've enjoyed it all too. But then 48 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: I saw on socials a psychologist and she's walking her dog, 49 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: which is why she sounds breathless here. But after a 50 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 2: few days of all the stories about he's quit his job, 51 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: he's made a comment. No, he hasn't, that was fake. 52 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 2: She said this. Here's a picture of her family, here's 53 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: his family. After a few days of all of that, 54 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: I heard this and it kind of brought me up short. 55 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 4: I just feel so heartbroken for those two people, for 56 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 4: their families, for their children, but also for everyone who's 57 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 4: witnessing for the tearing apart of these two people online, 58 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 4: because what it says to all of us is that 59 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 4: if you get caught in the shadows, if you get 60 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 4: caught vulnerable, making mistake, making poor decision, you too could 61 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 4: lose absolutely everything. Now I don't know about you, but 62 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 4: I don't know of these people. 63 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 3: They've done what millions of people do. 64 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 4: Millions of people have affairs, and that she as a psychologist, 65 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 4: having sat with lots of people who have had affairs. 66 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 4: I always end up feeling just compassion for them and understanding, 67 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 4: because when you truly understand someone's situation, attachment, history, relationships, 68 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 4: it makes sense and then sense to all of us 69 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 4: is that what kind of person makes that choice supposed 70 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 4: to mean just for a few views without knowing anything 71 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 4: about the situation. 72 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 3: Well that's some interesting perspective. 73 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: But if you're going to go to a event like that, 74 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: you don't have a PDA with your side piece. 75 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: No one's saying that they haven't been stupid, But how 76 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: do you feel about this absolute massive fallout in need 77 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: of who I do my podcast with? 78 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, what does she think? 79 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: Well, well, she's a forensic psychologist and she deals every 80 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: day with people who are in front of the courts, 81 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: for in front of the police in some way. And 82 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: she's always said, how would you feel if you would 83 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: have find and constantly defined by the worst mistake you've 84 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: ever made? And these people up on this big screen 85 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: have families, what a huge mistake they've made. 86 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: But was like, if someone drink, drives, or does anything 87 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: else in your life, you know, there's a million things 88 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: that you can do wrong. Just even doing this job, 89 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: you can do you've seconds away from saying something that's 90 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: going to get you into trouble, or. 91 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 2: If someone was on the JumboTron and vomited or you know, 92 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: had an accident on themselves or whatever. It's so easy 93 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: to be shamed, it's so easy to be humiliated. 94 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: I was thinking as I was coming to work just 95 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: about this. And I don't know if you saw. There's 96 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: a lady in a triathlon and she's running along and 97 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: she's posted a picture of her running along, and she's 98 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: had her period while she's running, and she's included. 99 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 2: She posted the picture. 100 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: She posted the picture and people, why would you put 101 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: why would you've cut that out? 102 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 3: And she said, I own my womanhood or whatever. 103 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: But then I thought the deeper issue with that is 104 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: are you getting on the front foot because someone else 105 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,559 Speaker 1: might have taken a picture and said, look at this lady, 106 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: better take better care of yourself or whatever. So you're 107 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: trying to go on the front foot and stop it 108 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: from becoming viral in itself becomes viral. 109 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 2: Well, And there's an adjoining story to this. Wayne Carey 110 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 2: and another woman in Melbourne was seen going filmed going 111 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 2: into a bathroom, coming out twenty seconds later. And some 112 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 2: voice says, I've got you on camera. And so both 113 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 2: these people, the Wayne Carey and this woman have come 114 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 2: out on the front foot. She's identified herself. She's saying, 115 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 2: how dare you wreck my life? Attempt to wreck my life? 116 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 3: What do you think anymore? I went for a paddle 117 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: on the board. 118 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: No one has a camera. 119 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: See this remote sort of area, and I thought, I'm 120 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: busting for a week. So I'm just standing on the 121 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: sandbar doing a win. I thought, yeah, someone could be 122 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: zooming in on me right now. 123 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: Well, what if you had to, you know, worse, do 124 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: a number two? And there's a million ways that all 125 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: of us can be shamed. We might put this to 126 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: the pub test next. And we've had a weekend of 127 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 2: everyone laughing at this story. The whole world has seen 128 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: this story. It's quite extraordinary. There's Don Trump and Epstein 129 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: files and all that stuff going on. 130 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 3: They've gone very vague, and yet this man. 131 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 2: And a woman doing the wrong thing. Yes, but the 132 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 2: shame and the glee we felt, and we've torn had 133 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 2: them apart limb from limb. How are you feeling about it? 134 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 2: We might talk about that next.