1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Hello, my name's Santasha Nabananga Bamblet. I'm a proud Yr 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: the Order Kerney Whaltbury and a waddery woman. And before 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: we get started on She's on the Money podcast, I 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: would like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: of which this podcast is recorded on a wondery country, 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: acknowledging the elders, the ancestors and the next generation coming 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: through as this podcast is about connecting, empowering, knowledge sharing 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: and the storytelling of you to make a difference for 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: today and lasting impact for tomorrow. 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: Let's get into it. 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: She's on the Money, She's on the Money. 12 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 4: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money the podcast. 13 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 4: Millennials who watch Financial Freedom, Hello Victoria. 14 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: Hello, bags. 15 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 4: Are you ready? 16 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: It seems so solemn. I know it's really really sad 17 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: episode today. 18 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 5: No it's not. 19 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 6: It's never a sad episode. 20 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 5: Terrible gag. Move on, Okay, let's get on with it. 21 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 4: Look, very often in life you can't make your money 22 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 4: go far enough to do all the things that you 23 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 4: want to do or even should do. 24 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 2: It can be really stressful. It can be very stressful. 25 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 4: Giving your charity can be one of those things that 26 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 4: we know is super important. It makes us feel good 27 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 4: and really kind of grinds on us when we can't 28 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 4: afford to do You feel that same dilemma, Oh. 29 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 6: Absolutely, And I feel like so many of us feel 30 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 6: that or like get the guilts when I don't know, 31 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 6: You're at a stop sign and the guy comes up 32 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 6: with the like tem for like the children's hospital or something, 33 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 6: and you're like, oh, I don't have coins, all the 34 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 6: way through to feeling really guilty that you know, you 35 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 6: might know somebody else who donates a portion of their 36 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 6: paycheck and you just can't do that. So I feel 37 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 6: like that's why I want to talk about it today, 38 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 6: because we want to remove the guilt of not giving 39 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 6: today because obviously, if you know me, well you know 40 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 6: that's something that is very very close to my heart. 41 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 6: It is something I do. It is something my husband 42 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 6: and I do together. I also think it's interesting because 43 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 6: I find it weird when people openly talk about what 44 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 6: they give and how they give. 45 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 5: Weird like humble brag, yeah, weird. 46 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 6: Flex So like, that's all I'm gonna say on that, 47 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 6: because I just feel a little bit uncomfortable being like, well, 48 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 6: we do this and this is how we do this, 49 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 6: and it's a flex like disgusting. 50 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 4: What I hear I have money? 51 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 5: Yeah exactly, and you're just like cool. 52 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 6: And does that make you feel good? Must be nice 53 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 6: and must be nice. But anyway, so it's something that 54 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 6: lots of us want to do. And amongst our heavier 55 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 6: and denser episodes where you learn about investing, for example, 56 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 6: I think it's also super important to talk about our 57 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 6: mental health when it comes to money. And ow she's 58 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 6: on the money family know that that's really important to 59 00:02:58,320 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 6: me as well. So this is one of those little 60 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 6: checking episodes to make sure we're all on the same 61 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 6: page and we are mentally healthy. So I'm going to 62 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 6: start with a little bit of personal experience. So way 63 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 6: back when I was at UNI, I was about twenty, 64 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 6: I had a sponsor child through World Vision. So growing up, 65 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 6: my parents had a sponsor child for my sister and 66 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 6: I and that was a way that they gave back. 67 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 6: So when I became an adult, I really wanted to 68 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 6: continue that because I felt like it was a really 69 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 6: beautiful experience. Like I don't know if you've ever seen 70 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 6: how that process works. And to be honest, I know 71 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,839 Speaker 6: that there are lots of companies that do and don't 72 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 6: do the right thing when it comes to spontor the children. 73 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 6: But the company I went through, I felt like was 74 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 6: really legitimate, and you kind of get a relationship with 75 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 6: that child and you feel, I don't know, you just 76 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 6: feel good anyway, really like it. And when I've moved 77 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 6: into my first full time job and my parents kind 78 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 6: of weren't the bank of Mum and Dad in that 79 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 6: way that they financially made me feel secure, I was 80 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 6: really struggling and I had to cut back expenses. I've 81 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 6: spoken about this quite openly. I ended up in literally 82 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 6: more than thirty thousand dollars worth of personal debt, and 83 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 6: a decision that I made was that I had to 84 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 6: stop sponsoring my sponsor child because it was too much, 85 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 6: like it was just adding up, and I felt guilty 86 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 6: and sick, and I would stay up late at night 87 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 6: just thinking about that how some poor kid in a 88 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 6: different country was not being looked after because I couldn't 89 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 6: get my shit together, And that really weighed very heavily 90 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 6: on me. And it's kind of hard to remove that 91 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 6: guilt when we know how privileged we are, even if 92 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 6: we are struggling like we were living in Australia and 93 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 6: I could just go to the supermarket and like, oh yeah, anyway, 94 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 6: So we get this idea that somebody else needs the 95 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 6: money more than we do, and then we feel terrible. 96 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 6: And I think I'm not the only one who's been 97 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 6: in this circumstance, regardless of whether it was a sponsor 98 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,799 Speaker 6: child or giving money or as I said, just giving 99 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 6: coins to somebody who asks for them on Legacy Day. 100 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 6: But I just think that is a good way to 101 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 6: start this because I have been through periods where I 102 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 6: haven't been able to give, and it's a value that 103 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 6: I have. And you know what, if you don't give 104 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 6: and it's not in line when your values are not here, 105 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 6: to try and change your values. No, like, let's talk 106 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 6: about a few common experiences when it does come to giving. 107 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 6: I don't think anybody should guilt you into giving. This 108 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 6: is never a good reason to do anything. And I'm 109 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 6: talking directly to the people with yellow clipboards on the 110 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 6: corner of Colin's Freed in Melbourne, CBD. As I say this, 111 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 6: don't come up to me and be like, do you 112 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 6: know how good you've got it? You will not be 113 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 6: getting my money. Goodbye, sir, you'll get my tears. Giving 114 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 6: to charity doesn't make you a better person. You can't 115 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 6: actually buy being a better person. I don't care how 116 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 6: much money you give to charity. You can show kindness 117 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 6: in your every date life and make the world a 118 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 6: better place because if that, you do not need to 119 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 6: share your money with anybody. Like I think that a 120 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 6: lot of people see it as like, oh, you must 121 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 6: think you're such a better person because you give to charity. No, 122 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 6: that's not something that exists. And if you even hold 123 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 6: that value about yourself, I think that you need to 124 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 6: really revalue. That doesn't make you a good person. We 125 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 6: need to talk about why you give in the first place, 126 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,799 Speaker 6: What does that make you feel, Why are you choosing 127 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 6: that charity in particular, why do you do what you do? 128 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 6: And you know, giving you more examples because I am 129 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 6: really passionate about this. Something that I don't talk about 130 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 6: enough is my role as the treasurer and I'm on 131 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 6: the board at TLC for Kids. TLC for Kids is 132 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 6: a children's charity that basically gives practical and emotional relief 133 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 6: to sick kids and their families all across Australia. 134 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: And they do you know, rapid responses. 135 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,239 Speaker 6: So if you're a sick child and you need something, 136 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 6: you submit a request and they help you. 137 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,239 Speaker 2: They've also got this beautiful. 138 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 6: Offering beck that makes me cry, like it is so moving. Right, 139 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 6: So sick kids and their families don't have the opportunity 140 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 6: to just go home whenever they want, right. And obviously, 141 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 6: if you want to take a sick kid home, often 142 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 6: you need, like it, an ambulance because they're so sick 143 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 6: that they need the support. 144 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 2: But obviously you. 145 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 6: Can't just give every sick kid an ambulance so that 146 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 6: they can just go home and pat their dog or 147 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 6: go to thea or do whatever they want, because we need 148 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 6: to reserve ambulances for emergencies, like you can't just use 149 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 6: them as you want to. Anyway, TC for Kids has 150 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 6: a new initiative and it's the TLC Ambulance, and it's 151 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 6: for sick kids to have rides to where they need 152 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 6: to go to do what they need to do. And 153 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 6: often these rides are used as their last rides. 154 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 2: They might want to go home. 155 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 6: To see the dog, or they might want to you know, 156 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 6: go to the beach or like put their feet in 157 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 6: the sand or do something with their family. And often 158 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 6: it's a really mundane trip. Like it's not like, oh, 159 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 6: let's do make a wish and take a cancer kid 160 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 6: all the way to Disneyland. Like it's not stuff like that. 161 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 6: It's wholesome content and that's what they do. And I 162 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 6: feel so privileged to be involved and so proud of 163 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 6: the work that they do. And that's why I'm involved. 164 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 6: It doesn't make me a better person, Like, listen to 165 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 6: the stories. Like you listen to the stories, you meet 166 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 6: the people, you see how passionate they are, and like 167 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 6: the CEO, Tim Connell and Hotly Moley, he is one 168 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 6: of the most wholesome human beings. And like, just being 169 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 6: able to hold space with people like that is an 170 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 6: absolute privilege. And that's what I get from that. Like 171 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 6: I genuinely believe that I get more out of that 172 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 6: experience than they ever get from me. And I think 173 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 6: that that is, to me, one of the most valuable 174 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 6: roles that I have. It's so cool back, it is 175 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 6: so cool, But I just think that if we did 176 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 6: enough research on our own, people would be able to 177 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 6: find the same passion that I have for TLC for kids, 178 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 6: for their own charities and their own causes and a 179 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 6: lot of the time, we're just like, ah, well, you know, 180 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 6: there are starving kids in Africa. 181 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: I can't save them all. 182 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 6: And that's okay. That might not be a cause that's 183 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 6: that close to your heart, but I'm sure that there 184 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 6: is something that you will find that could resonate with you. 185 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 6: But we don't just give cash because it makes you 186 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 6: a good person. Yeah, Like that's actually a really surface 187 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 6: level and to me, really gross. 188 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 1: Yeah. 189 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 6: Like, I remember going on a date once with some 190 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 6: dude I met on Tinder, which near a whole host 191 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 6: of stories. We can start another podcast, Okay, yeah, let's 192 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 6: do that Tory's Tindertails. But I remember that was like 193 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 6: one of the first things he wanted to tell me 194 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 6: that he was like super charitable, and I was at 195 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 6: UNI and I was like, this is ick, Like I 196 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 6: couldn't give anything, and then he was judging anyway. Red flag, 197 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 6: red flag. But also, where you given. The way that 198 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 6: you give is personal to you and your values, and 199 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 6: I don't think anyone should be asking you about that 200 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 6: or making you feel bad about that. It's a very 201 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 6: fickle space, and I don't think people should be giving 202 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 6: because it ultimately makes them a better person. I think 203 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 6: we should be giving because you get so much out 204 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 6: of it. 205 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, there are so many reasons to give and the 206 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 4: benefits that you know, the receiver and the giver actually get. 207 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 4: But there's also this thing called tie thing. Yep, tie thing, 208 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 4: where you give a percentage to charity or church as 209 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 4: a part of your religious beliefs. 210 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 5: Is that Am I kind of explaining that right? 211 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 6: Yes, so it's called tie thing, and I find it 212 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 6: very interesting because beck the church quite clearly does not 213 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 6: have enough money at the moment. They really need ambment 214 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 6: of your pennies, just really scraping pennies. They do not 215 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 6: own the most amount of real estate in the entire 216 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 6: country or even the entire world. I think they've got 217 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 6: the biggest property investment portfolio in the entire world. 218 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: Actually, Catholic Church. 219 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 5: Wow, yeah, but. 220 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: It's not them. 221 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 6: You you must have worked really hard for that. But 222 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 6: let's not get into the religious side of things, because 223 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 6: we're not here to offend people, and it's not actually 224 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 6: about our religious perspectives. It's actually about this idea of tithing, 225 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 6: and a tithe is a portion, usually ten percent of 226 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 6: your income that is given as an offering to your 227 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 6: local church. Fun fact, the word tythe literally means tenth 228 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 6: in Hebrew, which I find really interesting because I just 229 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 6: like knowing where words come from. Yes, because the custom 230 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 6: of tithing is biblical, many Christians and Jewish people practice 231 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 6: it as part of their faith, but it is expressed 232 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 6: in lots of different ways across organized religion, and I 233 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 6: just look, I find it really interesting and we might 234 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 6: do a whole episode on it because they say it's, 235 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 6: you know, a choice, it's something need I. 236 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 2: Don't have to do. 237 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 6: But obviously there are a lot of repercussions if you're 238 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 6: not seen to be tie things, and there are actually 239 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 6: a lot of stories. Again, I've been on TikTok recently 240 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 6: and I have found myself on Mormon Utah TikTok Ah, 241 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 6: and like I've talked about this before, and I find 242 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 6: it really interesting because they obviously are obsessed with like 243 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 6: dit Coke and soul my, so, like, I keep watching 244 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 6: their videos and then I keep being served more of them, 245 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 6: but it keeps coming up about this tie thing, and 246 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 6: a few content creators have come up on my feed 247 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 6: talking about how much debt they've gone into but they 248 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 6: were still tithing ten percent of their income to the church, 249 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 6: and it just gives me the ick, and it doesn't 250 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 6: feel like that's the best possible use of your personal funds. Like, 251 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 6: if you're in debt, why are you still giving a 252 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 6: church worth literal billions regardless of what it is ten 253 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 6: percent of your income. 254 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: Hmm. 255 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 4: It seems like they don't care or mind that you're 256 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 4: struggling to make ends meet. Yeah. Absolutely, so it sound 257 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 4: like a very truly beneficial relationship. Maybe I don't know what. 258 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 6: I've never tythed, and I can basically guarantee I. 259 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 5: Never will type no, I've teethed. I've teethed, but I 260 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 5: will not tythe will not tythe. 261 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 2: Let's go to a break. 262 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 5: We desperately need a break. Let's go for a little break. 263 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 5: Let's go for a cup of tape bub Welcome back. 264 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 4: We are talking about the guilt many of us experience 265 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 4: if we can't manage to give to charity today right 266 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 4: this second. One thing I want to raise is that 267 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 4: just because we can't give right now, it doesn't mean. 268 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 5: We can't ever give. 269 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, Our circumstances will change, hopefully and in the 270 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 4: future you might be in a different financial situation. 271 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 5: Maybe you can give then. 272 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 6: Just get one percent, And I mean, I actually think 273 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 6: it's really important to prioritize you and look after your 274 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 6: mental health and your physical health, and make sure you 275 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 6: know you've got a good emergency fund before you're doing 276 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 6: these things. Because as much as I think it's beautiful 277 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 6: and I think it should definitely be part of everyone's 278 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 6: ultimate budget. When I say ultimate budget, though, that's after 279 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 6: you've got your emergency fund and you're not in personal 280 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 6: debt and you're in an okay situation and you have 281 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 6: a disposable income. I feel like getting yourself in a 282 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 6: position to look at your budget and set goals is 283 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 6: actually a really good investment. And one of these might 284 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 6: be to regularly give to charity, and that's okay. But 285 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 6: I just think there's been a lot of content around recently, 286 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 6: just floating around the internet, floating on Instagram, other money 287 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 6: podcasts talking about it that just makes me feel a 288 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 6: little bit like we should be guilted into it, and 289 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 6: as we've said before, we don't do that. But i'd 290 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 6: actually like to ask you about it, Beck, because you 291 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 6: know you've shared before that you haven't earned a massive income, 292 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 6: and you've been in debt and you've gone through bankruptcy. 293 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 6: What's your take on charity, because I feel like people 294 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 6: that I know in similar situations to you, it just 295 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 6: doesn't even come across the radar, Like we don't even 296 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 6: think about it because it's just not a friggin' option. 297 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 6: It's not something you can consider. So why I spend 298 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 6: too much time on it? 299 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 4: I know that's so true. I mean I did used 300 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 4: to give a little bit to save the children. Yeah, 301 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 4: and I don't know how, but it just dropped off. 302 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 4: But it wasn't heaps of money. I guess like my 303 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 4: main thing is now exactly this, Like I'm not in 304 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 4: the financial situation to give money and certainly not enough. 305 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 4: That's and you know this might seem silly, but not 306 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 4: enough to actually maybe feel like I'm making a big 307 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 4: difference totally. Like I know that probably a dollar a 308 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 4: month among other millions of one dollar per month makes 309 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 4: a big difference. But if I don't feel good about it, 310 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 4: I just feel like it's a bit of a cop out. 311 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 4: I'm gonna wait until I have the money to give, 312 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 4: until charity I actually want to give to, Like I 313 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 4: really care about animals kept in captivity really really stresses 314 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 4: me out and that's kind of a cause that I 315 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 4: want to maybe go down, you know, and animals don't 316 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 4: know that I'm helping them. 317 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 5: But it still feels. 318 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 4: Good, do you know what I mean? 319 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: And that's why we do it. It feels good. 320 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 4: I think I'm going to wait until I'm a little 321 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 4: bit more financially stable and kind of feel like I'm 322 00:14:58,680 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 4: making a difference. 323 00:14:59,360 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: You know. 324 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 6: And that's so that's totally okay. But what I don't 325 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 6: think is okay if someone was like, oh, Beck, you 326 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 6: don't give even a dollar how ick? 327 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: No? 328 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 4: Absolutely not, yeah, absolutely, And you know, there are ways 329 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 4: to give back that don't involve money. You could volunteer 330 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 4: time for any number of volunteer organizations. There are plenty 331 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 4: out there, and as you say, v like, it's not 332 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 4: always one sided. You get so much back from the community, 333 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 4: the connections, the experiences that you hadn't even bargained for. 334 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 4: These are things that you just exactly, you can't you know, 335 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 4: the priceless exactly. I feel like it just brings, I guess, 336 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 4: another layer to your life. 337 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: And it's kind of like. 338 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 6: Having alby in a way, or like a passion project 339 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 6: or an interest or something that you just do for 340 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 6: yourself that makes you feel really good, and they're like, 341 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 6: I mean, a lot of people are going to be like, what, 342 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 6: I don't want to go down to the local soup kitchen. 343 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 6: That sounds boring. That's fine, that might not be for you, 344 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 6: But like, what are you passionate about? And you said before, 345 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 6: Beck that you're really passionate about animals kept in captivity. 346 00:15:58,440 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 6: And I think that there are probably a lot of 347 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 6: things you could do if you wanted to, and you 348 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 6: had the privilege of additional time to be able to 349 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 6: do that, that you know, could work towards that. But 350 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 6: something else I want to touch on is actually this 351 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 6: concept that I have seen recently about this expectation that 352 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 6: there are big rich people who don't even give back. 353 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 6: And that's okay, that's all right, you do you, But 354 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 6: this idea that I've never seen them at the soup kitchen. 355 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 6: I've never seen them, you know, pack a gift bag 356 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 6: for a charity event. I've never seen them, you know, 357 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 6: do the hard yards. All they do is throw cash 358 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 6: at it and think that that makes them a better person. 359 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 6: One we're ready to still doesn't make you a better person. 360 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 6: But let's preface this a little bit better. 361 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: Right. 362 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 6: So, say you're a CEO of a really really big company, right, 363 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 6: and your time is valuable. 364 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: Like, let's say you're a lawyer. 365 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 6: Because lawyers have really high charge out rates. 366 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: You're a really big dog lawyer. 367 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 6: You make like a twelve hundred bucks an hour working 368 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 6: with clients, right, big dog lawyer. 369 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: Right, So you're earning. 370 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 6: This twelve hundred dollars per hour, and there is a 371 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 6: charity event going on down the road, and it's a 372 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 6: cause that's really close to your heart, and they need 373 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 6: some help packing some. 374 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 2: Gift bags, and you go far out. That would be 375 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 2: really good. I really want to help this charity. 376 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 6: I really like is that the best use of your 377 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 6: time and money to spend your time going and packing 378 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 6: gift bags? Where you know, a minimum wage you know, 379 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 6: casual worker could do that. And let's say it's thirty 380 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 6: bucks an hour to hire somebody to go and pack 381 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 6: gift bags. I know a lot of people who jump 382 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 6: at the chance to pack gift bags for thirty bucks 383 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 6: an hour. Right, is that the best use of that 384 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 6: CEO or that lawyer's time to do that, or is 385 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 6: a better use of their time to work a few 386 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 6: more hours and then donate a chunk of cash to 387 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 6: charity that they can use to pay for those gift bags, 388 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 6: or you know, pay for services that that company renders, 389 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 6: or pay for you know, a TLC for children, you know, 390 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 6: pay for something these kids need. I feel like we 391 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 6: really need to reframe what giving means, because there's this 392 00:17:58,520 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 6: idea that, oh. 393 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: You do give money. 394 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 5: That's so black and white. 395 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 6: It's so black and white. It's not this idea of 396 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 6: is that the best use of my time? And I 397 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 6: have done historically, you know, my fair share of stuff 398 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 6: like that. But now, being a business owner, I kind 399 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 6: of look at it and go, well, actually might be 400 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 6: a better use of my time to donate a percentage 401 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 6: of my business's income or my business is profit to 402 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 6: charity than it is for me to take days off 403 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 6: work and go and help out somewhere. Why don't I 404 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 6: help them hire someone to do that. Why don't I 405 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 6: help actually fund that, or why don't I give money 406 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 6: towards the cause that they're trying to raise money for. 407 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 6: So I think it's an interesting conundrum because a lot 408 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 6: of people are like, oh, CEOs won't lift a finger, 409 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 6: and then there's all these you know, something that really 410 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 6: frustrates me. Is this like CEO sleepout you know that 411 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 6: never in my cay. So it's like it's like a 412 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 6: charity event and that's so fine, and it does raise 413 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 6: a lot of money for a really really good cause. 414 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 6: But it's this idea that they'll take a CEO and 415 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 6: make them sleep on you know, the MCG grounds in 416 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 6: a cardboard box for the night, and it's totally okay, 417 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 6: and like it does raise money and you're like paying, 418 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 6: you know, you might like contribute funds towards this particular 419 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 6: CEO that's raising money. 420 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 2: I just think it's. 421 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 6: Such a cop out because it's like you don't need 422 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 6: to sleep in a cardboard box on the MCG to 423 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 6: raise money or do good or be good. 424 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: Like it's just also I feel. 425 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 4: Like homeless people maybe don't like they have the spikes 426 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 4: on the little you know, like sidewalks and stuff, Like 427 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 4: they don't get a cushy MCG. 428 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 5: I mean a brand you sit down, I mean yeah. 429 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 6: So I just think there are a lot of things 430 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 6: that are for show in the charity world and that 431 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 6: really frustrates me. Like true charity is done from the 432 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 6: kindness of your heart, from a place that does not 433 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 6: troud your heart with guilt. It is done from a 434 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 6: place of actually wanting a better world, and it's usually 435 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 6: done really humbly, and we're not talking about it, and 436 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 6: we're not. You know, it's good to talk about it 437 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 6: because it might be motivating for other people to do 438 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 6: it as well. But I just think, you know, it's 439 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 6: not actually there as a status symbol or to make 440 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 6: you look like a better person. 441 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 442 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 5: I agree with that completely. 443 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 4: So be me as a modest individual, not much money. 444 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 4: What can I do? And people like me? What can 445 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 4: we do to make a change? 446 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 6: Okay, So my favorite thing that you could do personally 447 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 6: that does not involve any money, and you get a 448 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 6: free snack. You're in You're free snack, so you can 449 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 6: get a free snack, you can get a free milkshake, 450 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 6: unlimited cookies, staffage trolls. Yeah, okay, it's giving blood to 451 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:27,959 Speaker 6: the Australian Red Cross. 452 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 5: Oh she got me? 453 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah right. So one in three Australians will need 454 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 6: a blood transfusion in their lives and it's so easy 455 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 6: to roll up your sleeve and donate and get a 456 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 6: free snack. It is free to do, and there are 457 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:45,479 Speaker 6: permanent blood donation centers scattered across our country. And then 458 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 6: there's also a mobile donor van that visits some universities 459 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 6: that you could just like literally step out of the 460 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 6: classroom on your break and you donate some blood. If 461 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 6: needles aren't really your thing. I totally get that. As 462 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 6: somebody who used to faint at the site of a needle, 463 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 6: we get that. The Red Cross Blood Bank is actually 464 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 6: also always looking for volunteers to keep donors wel fed 465 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 6: and hydrated before they head home, because if you donate blood, 466 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 6: you need to kind of stick around for like fifteen 467 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 6: minutes to make sure, okay, you don't faint or whatever. 468 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 6: Another good one is Clean Up Australia Day, for example. 469 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 6: And with so many other initiatives and organizations around the 470 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 6: country that you can support, I feel like there's always 471 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 6: a way to support the world without giving cash. It 472 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 6: doesn't always have to come back to money. I mean, 473 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 6: these is shees on the money, but it doesn't have 474 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 6: to come back to money. Can sometimes just be doing 475 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 6: good and being good and it could be your time. 476 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 6: Do you know what It could be you going for 477 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 6: your morning coffee walk and seeing some rubbish on the 478 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 6: ground and just popping it in the bin. I do 479 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 6: think that what goes around comes around, and the energy 480 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 6: that you put out I'm such a fluffy human being, 481 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 6: but the energy that you put into the universe comes 482 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 6: back threefold. Like if you do good things, good things 483 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 6: come to you. And it goes back to that, you know, 484 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 6: positive mindset kind of thing, like why are we doing 485 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 6: it if you expect credit for it? That gives me 486 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 6: the don't do it for the credit. Do it from 487 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 6: the goodness of your heart. Full stop NDUS story. I 488 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 6: probably think that's the end of the episode. 489 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 5: Yep, amen, I love that. 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