1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Tell you what a busy, busy hour lined up for 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: you in the studio with us this morning. We have 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: got the independent Member for Aarra lun she's also the 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: Speaker of the Northern Territories Legislative Assembly, Robin Lamley. Good 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: morning to you, lovely to have you in the studio 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: and well for the COLP. We have got the Deputy 7 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: Chief Minister Jared Maylee. 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: Good morning Jared, Good morning Katie, and good morning to. 9 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: Your listeners and well our journalistic representative this morning, our 10 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: very own Kathleen Gazola, Good morning to you. And Manuel Brown, 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: the member for our Fura and representing well us for 12 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: the Labour Party this morning, and a number of those 13 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: communities that are indeed going to be impacted today potentially 14 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: by the cyclone. Good morning to you, Manuel, morning everyone, 15 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: lovely to have you on the show. Now I might 16 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: go to that cyclone update first, and we know that 17 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: tropical cyclone Fiena, currently a category one cyclone, is moving 18 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 1: slowly southwest and is expected to strengthen to a category 19 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: two system whilst tracking southwest during today. Now it has 20 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: been reanalyzed to be further northwest than before. Fena is 21 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: forecast to approach the Coburg Peninsula and Tewee Islands tonight 22 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: before continuing southwest through the Van Demon Golf on Saturday. 23 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: There continues to be a chance that it could reach 24 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: category three intensity during late Friday or early Saturday as 25 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: it moves into the Van Demon Golf. Now Fena is 26 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: forecast a further intensify to a severe tropical cyclone during 27 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon into the Southern Team or c so that 28 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: is once it passes Darwin. But we are expecting a 29 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: further update at about ten thirty this morning. Now this morning, 30 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: we also know that Darwin is now part of the 31 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: warning area. Deputy Chief Minister, we might go to you 32 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: first in terms of you know this point and that 33 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: warning being issued. 34 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 3: Schools. 35 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: Everybody is still going to work at this point in time. 36 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 4: What's the life late, yes, o Katie, everyone is still 37 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 4: going to school. And what the government message is just 38 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 4: to be prepared. Make sure that you've got yourself and 39 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 4: your family enough. Prepare for seventy two hours by yourself. 40 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 4: So we're talking about food, batteries, water, because that will 41 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 4: give you a window there to make sure that you 42 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 4: can look after yourself and your families and don't forget 43 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 4: your loved ones either. 44 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: You know, the older people, the people who you might. 45 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 4: Know or who they're go and make a plan, talk 46 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 4: to them, make sure they're ready to go. 47 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: But it's about being prepared. Don't need to panic. 48 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 4: Things are under control with you know, the Darwin's had 49 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 4: a few cyclones before. As long as you've got that 50 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 4: work and you've got seventy two hours worth of food 51 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 4: and water, things be right. And the schools are open. 52 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 4: But there are announcements at ten thirty today which is 53 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 4: which will give us a further update. 54 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: So at this point in time, are we're expecting at 55 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: ten thirty this morning that those that any of our 56 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: Darwin schools or the Greater Darwin Region schools or non 57 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: essential workers are going to be told to head home. 58 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 4: I don't want to prehenp what the church you control 59 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 4: is going to do, Katie, but I would say make 60 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 4: sure you listen at ten thirty, go on to the radio, 61 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 4: go on to Facebook, and be prepared and be active 62 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 4: to know what's going to happen at ten treo or 63 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 4: just after ten thirty, because if that is the situation, 64 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 4: there will be steps of people to take go and 65 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 4: pick up to them from school. 66 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean if like, if that winds up being 67 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: the situation, could it have been coordinated a little bit better. 68 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's early days, we don't actually 69 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: know what the territory coordinator is going to decide to do. 70 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: But then if parents are in a situation where they're 71 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: having to leave work to go and collect the kids, 72 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: could that have been called a couple hours earlier. 73 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 4: Problem is, Kadie, the cyclone is a forecast map and 74 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 4: you can see it's changing regularly, and what we don't 75 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 4: want to do is put people into a panic. And 76 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 4: at the moment we're at that warning zone, right on 77 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 4: the edge of it. The cyclone just recently has just 78 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 4: changed a little bit in as ways moving. So we 79 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 4: just need to follow the territory coordinator. They've got all 80 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 4: the information. They're the experts, and like I say, be prepared. 81 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 4: At just after ten thirty, go on to Facebook, go 82 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 4: on the radio, listen to the ABC. 83 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: Go well, don't listen to the ABC, because you can 84 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: stay here. We've actually got all covered. I mean, if 85 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: you want to listen to them later, that's fine. And look, 86 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: I do want to point out on that because some 87 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: of that communication has been going through them, and I 88 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: actually don't think that's right. I actually think it needs 89 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: to go through everybody because not everyone's listening to that. 90 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: People are listening to a lot of other different media outlets. 91 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: So I actually think it's a government's job, and certainly 92 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: the territory coordinator or whoever it may be's job controller 93 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: to make sure that everybody's notified of what's going on, 94 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: because they don't have many listeners to be really blunked about. 95 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 4: Our secure is the page which is official government page. 96 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 4: So what I do say to people and I'll take 97 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 4: that on board, KD and people are listening about that. 98 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: But nt secure is the official page. 99 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 4: If you really want the really up to date actor information, 100 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 4: go on to nt secure, go on to their Facebook page. 101 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 4: They will be able to give you the relevant and 102 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 4: most up to date information. 103 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: Now manual some of those communities that we are going 104 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: to see impacted really first off, for one set full 105 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: in your electra, what are you hearing at the moment? 106 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, in regular contact with some of the community members 107 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 5: out there at the moment, you know, there's not much 108 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 5: wind and not much rain. It's the calm before the storm. 109 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 5: As we'd like to say, but I'm very impressed with 110 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,799 Speaker 5: their proactive approach with the police. They've sent a couple 111 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 5: of members into those communities that do not have police representation, 112 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 5: and they've coordinated, you know, and had meetings with the 113 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 5: community about which buildings are cyclone encoded and what to do. 114 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 5: So really impressed with how they've worked things. 115 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is good and really good to hear that 116 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: they're out there in the community, and I know that 117 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: that is when we do see, you know, a lot 118 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: of those frontline workers, particularly our police, get out there. 119 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: They are you know, they're making sure that, you know, 120 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: that people are informed of what's going on. Because while 121 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: I'm having a crack at the Deputy Chief Minister there 122 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: about going to another radio station, what I will say 123 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: is that in some of those communities, you know, they're 124 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: literally reliant on what the police are telling them and 125 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: people going out and actually talking to them. So it 126 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: is incredibly important work out there, isn't it. 127 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 5: Yes, Yeah, you know, Katie, we live in cyclone territory, 128 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 5: you know, living in the Jordan terrory. Most of these 129 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 5: communities are cyclon resilient, you know, with what's and some 130 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 5: of them are normally cut off anyway from the rest 131 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 5: of you know, from from regional hubs. So yeah, places 132 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 5: like Minelan and war are we Yeah, they've got a 133 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 5: they'll have a lot of stores in their in their 134 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,119 Speaker 5: shops and stuff just for this, for the normal season. 135 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 6: But then a cyclone comes through. They should be. 136 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 7: We're pretty tough in the territory, aren't we. 137 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: Yes, we are well well, We're used to all sorts 138 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: of things. 139 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 3: And you know, yesterday I was at Woolworths. 140 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: I was leaving and there was a lady who who 141 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: was a senior and she had, you know, been grabbing 142 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: a few things, and I asked her if she needed 143 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: a hand to get stuff in her car. She said no, no, 144 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: she was fine. And then she said to me, I've 145 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: lived here for fifty years. 146 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 3: We're gonna be all right, love. And I thought, you 147 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: know what, she would know. 148 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: She'd know because I bet you she's seen plenty of 149 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: cyclones over the years. But Robin, it's going to be 150 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: then interesting next week. Obviously you're in Darwin at the 151 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: moment because parliament's. 152 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 7: To sit next way, you just sit on Tuesday. 153 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: What will happen? 154 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: I mean, if with this side clone are we expecting 155 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: Parliament to still go on next week. 156 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 8: We are as Speaker, my job is to look after 157 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 8: the Parliament precinct, Parliament House precinct, so we're just like 158 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 8: everyone else, on alert to lock down Parliament House as 159 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 8: soon as a warning is in place. And I do 160 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 8: understand a warning has been announced just earlier, so by 161 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 8: the close of business tonight Parliament House will be locked up. 162 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: Is there a bit of mixed messaging at the moment, 163 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: because you know, like we'd see, we're obviously in that 164 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: warning phase. I mean, should that actually mean that we 165 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: are in a situation where non essential workers are not 166 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:39,119 Speaker 1: going to work? 167 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 4: Well? 168 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 9: I think it's a bit hard at the moment when 169 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 9: there's no rain or real strong winds here. That sort 170 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 9: of makes the situation a bit strange. I suppose people 171 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 9: in that level of limbo. One thing that I've found 172 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 9: a bit confusing this time around is the new warning 173 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 9: system of the Advice, Watch, an Act and Emergency Warning, 174 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 9: which is that new level of categories that they roll 175 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 9: out natural disasters rather than the usual watch and warning 176 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 9: that we've had in the past. They've obviously put out 177 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 9: an emergency warning for mine lung to that this morning, 178 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 9: which is basically urging those residents to take cover and 179 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 9: that I suppose impact was imminental within the next few 180 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 9: hours or so, and then I think Darwin might be 181 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 9: under watch and watch rather than watch an act at 182 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 9: the moment, Jared. 183 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: I think it's just been dated. 184 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, morning now. 185 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, So just on that, and I think the point 186 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: you're making a good one there is that it's like 187 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: it is that bit of cross like a bit of confusion. 188 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 9: With that, Yeah, the watching ass and the advice, that 189 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 9: kind of level of classification we usually see with bush fires. Yeah, 190 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 9: and I'd imagine Robin experiences that down in the Red Center, 191 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 9: whereas usually up here we've had, you know, a cyclone 192 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 9: watch and then we've had a cyclone warning. Yeah. So yeah, 193 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 9: I think that's just a bit of a funny And 194 00:08:58,360 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 9: just on. 195 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: That we are we have just actually received a media 196 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: release from a Josh Peak from the SDA, which is 197 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: indeed the union that represents all of the retail workers, etc. 198 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: And has said that the SDA is. 199 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: Written to the Northern Territory Government in Territory Controller requesting 200 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: a closure order to be issued well before the cyclone 201 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: impacts Darwin to ensure that all workers can get home safely, 202 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: saying we cannot afford to see a repeat of cyclone markers. 203 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: The government's got a responsibility to act and ensure that 204 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: all Territorians well all territorians safety and saying no workers 205 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: should be forced to stay at work or attend work 206 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: if it is not safe to do so. So I 207 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: know it's a bit of a you know, we're in 208 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: a bit of a gray area or in a bit 209 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: of alala, I suppose at the moment, unless you are 210 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: in one of the remote communities. But it's one of 211 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: those things where there's a lot of people sort of 212 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: questioning what they should be doing right now. 213 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 4: Remember we've got to rely on the church to control, okadie. 214 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 4: That's a group of experts across the Northern Church. 215 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: You've come together. 216 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 4: They're sitting at Behrmar and they're working with the gun 217 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 4: and they've got the most accurate information on hand. 218 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: So they are doing a great job. 219 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 4: And I should actually take this moment to thank them 220 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 4: and the emerging people out there who are doing this 221 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 4: stuff staying away from their families. So I'll just cite 222 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 4: it for a second and say thank you for the 223 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 4: work they all do, but the terretary Controller and that 224 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 4: group of people other people need to listen to. They've 225 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 4: got the information, and I understand the union can call 226 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 4: what they want, but the Chatory Controller is doing a 227 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 4: great job. They will certainly keep the territory safe, and 228 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 4: they'll do make decisions based on relevant information and accurate 229 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 4: information other than just hearsay. 230 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: And what people think. 231 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 4: It's really important to get a reliable information based on evidence, 232 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 4: and then that's what the Charitory Controller and that organized 233 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 4: that group of people are going to do. 234 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, but making sure that it's getting out there, making 235 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: sure that people are actually getting it, because otherwise that's 236 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: where that confusion starts. So I know that yesterday afternoon 237 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: they had a press conference, as I understand, at about 238 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 1: two o'clock. Now, so you said they'll be out about 239 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: ten thirty this morning, is that correct? Well, I look 240 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: forward to finding out exactly what the lay this update is. 241 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 9: There's a presser at there's a presser at two o'clock. 242 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 9: I'm not sure that there's a ten thirty media in generally. 243 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: Like not a press up. 244 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: Next update, next update is going to be that's ten thirty. 245 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. Requestion with secure anti Yeah. 246 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: And so look, if we are to go by that 247 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: next media alert and when the next press conference is happening, 248 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: that's at two o'clock this afternoon. So I would imagine 249 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: that there's going to be no changes when it comes 250 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: to schools or people at work or anything today if 251 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: I'm to sort of, you know, to to see that correctly, 252 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: because I would think that if they're changing that and 253 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: closing schools, et cetera, there'd be a fairly immediate press 254 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: conference in Darwin specifically. Yeah, but obviously we know that 255 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: in some of the community schools are already closed, aren't 256 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: they manual. 257 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely closed, Yeah, war are we and minda Langen. 258 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 5: And the other thing about so secure messaging is they 259 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 5: put out presses in language, which is amazing. 260 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, well you know people can listen. 261 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 10: Yeah. 262 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: I did not know that yesterday, even at the press 263 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: I hadn't really seen an interpreter at a press conference before, 264 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: but there was the interpreter there making sure that everybody 265 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: in those communities was able to get that message as 266 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: quickly as as you know, those speaking English as their 267 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: first language. 268 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 6: Amazing work from aas yep. 269 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, look, it's going to be an interesting couple 270 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: of days when it comes to the cyclone, there is 271 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 1: no doubt about that. 272 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 3: We'll all be. 273 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: Keeping a really close eye on things and we will 274 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: certainly keep you up to date with all of those 275 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: updates as they come to hand. But we're going to 276 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: take a quick break because there's still plenty more on 277 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: the agenda throughout this week. In fact, it's been a 278 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: pretty busy one, so we'll take a quick break. 279 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 10: You are listening to Mix Mix one or four point 280 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 10: nine three point sixty, the week that was the most 281 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 10: listened to our in Territory radio. 282 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: It is just on twenty two minutes after nine o'clock. 283 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: If you've just joined us, well, we have got a 284 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: star studded lineup this morning. Robin Lamley, Jared Maylee, Kathleen Gozola, 285 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: Emanuel Brown all in the studio with us. 286 00:12:59,000 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 10: Now. 287 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 3: There's been a to discuss this week. 288 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: Obviously, cycling's top of mind for everybody this morning. However, 289 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: the States and territories are on an absolute collision course 290 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: with the Commonwealth over public hospital funding, with the health 291 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: ministers expressing anger over a letter from the Prime Minister 292 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: demanding that they reign in spending if they want a 293 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 1: funding deal on it now. We caught up with doctor 294 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: John Zorbis, the head of the AMA here in the 295 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: Northern Territory, earlier in the week and he said, Katie, 296 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: there's no fat to trim, you know, like there's really 297 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: no areas where we can be reigning in spending when 298 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: we've got one of the sickest populations in Australia and 299 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: also we've got, you know, patients coming in from different 300 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: parts of remote locations around the Northern Territory. But according 301 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: to this report, Anthony Albanezi made the request in September, 302 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: writing to state and territory leaders saying that they must 303 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: slash growth if they want a public hospital funding commitment implemented. 304 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 3: How do you slash growth when it comes to people 305 00:13:59,040 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 3: being sick? 306 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 9: Literally, this is my third week that I've worked here 307 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 9: at MIX. Some health has been the number one issue 308 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 9: yes about and I couldn't believe it hearing this story 309 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 9: about this letter from the PM to the ministers calling 310 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 9: for this, It's just outrageous. I can't even fathom what 311 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 9: kind of reaction he thought he was going to get, 312 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 9: and as if people were going to capitulate to be like, oh, okay, 313 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 9: we'll rain in spending. So we have that health funding 314 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 9: that you already had agreed to but not fulfilling. 315 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 3: Now we'll tell these things that. 316 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: Need a hospital bid that they're not able to have one, 317 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: like it's just wild years ago. 318 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 4: Sorry, I remember the Northern Territory has got a relatively 319 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 4: small population and a. 320 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: Very vast area of land to cover. So you know, 321 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: it's different. 322 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 4: If you're in a city in Sydney, Melbourne, we us 323 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 4: go to the hospital in the next suburb around the corner. 324 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 4: But here in the territory, you've got to travel literally 325 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 4: one hundreds ofipometers, some by playing, some by chop up, 326 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 4: some by boats sometimes to get to your medical treatment, 327 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 4: which is just unbelievable that we're here and now we're 328 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 4: already less than the other states. You know, I think 329 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 4: we're at thirty one or thirty two percent of the funding. 330 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 4: All the other than are about forty two. So we're already 331 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 4: get let's to start within the territory and we have 332 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 4: to pay for the age of care because they said 333 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 4: and there's a whole range of issues with the health system, 334 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 4: and I know that the Minister Eduting is working hard 335 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 4: to keep fighting, but it's time for the federal government 336 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 4: to step up here and listen to the concern of 337 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 4: the Northern charritory because we do have a swamp population 338 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 4: of very sick people in middle of nowhere sometimes and 339 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 4: they need to be able to get to hospital. 340 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 8: Many years ago, when I was Health Minister, the formula 341 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 8: was for budgeting that there was a ten percent increase 342 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 8: in demand for funding, regardless of whether the service had 343 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 8: remained the same or expanded or shrunk or whatever. So 344 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 8: there's always a ten percent increase due to CPI. So 345 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 8: the offer on the table I think is eight percent 346 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 8: per year. That doesn't even come close to covering the 347 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 8: natural increase and demand for funding. 348 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: Well, and look, I think anybody that's had to go 349 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: to Royal Darwin Hospital, the Palmerston Hospital, Alice Springs Hospital, 350 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: anywhere any of those hospitals, you know just. 351 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 3: How how busy they are. 352 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: You know, like our doctors, our nurses, our allied health stuff. 353 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: Everybody's doing their best to make sure that they can 354 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: see people as quickly as possible. But the fact is, 355 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: like even if we had one hundred extra beds, it's 356 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: probably not enough. 357 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 8: We've got the busiest emergency departments in the country. 358 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 7: In the Northern Territory. 359 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 8: Higher Springs and Darwin have the busiest DDS, So that's 360 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 8: just something in itself. 361 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 3: It truly does. 362 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 5: Look it's hard to see where the cuts are going 363 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 5: to come from. You know, we've got remote community centers 364 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 5: that don't have these specialized you know, the specialized support, 365 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 5: and unfortunately we're all getting flown into Darwin and not 366 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 5: crammed in this already overpopulated system. So it just puts 367 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 5: more pressure on everyone. It's like a domino effect across 368 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 5: the territory. When we got fund in the regional hubs, 369 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 5: it also spreads out in the rum. 370 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 3: Well that's exactly right. 371 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: You end up with people having to come to town 372 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: to have that treatment and sometimes they're stuck here. 373 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 3: For agents, particularly if. 374 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: They're here for renal dialysis or something that they can 375 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: then be here for an awful long time and no 376 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: one wants that. 377 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 9: And we'll if you touched on age care, let's much. 378 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 9: Age care is a federal responsibility, I believe. So there's 379 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 9: at least there's more than forty patients in the hospital 380 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 9: that don't need to be there and need to be 381 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 9: an age care and we still having even got. 382 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 7: Which a very long time. 383 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 3: That's exactly right. 384 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: But then meanwhile we're in a situation where we're pushing 385 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: for we're trying to get thirty five million dollars for 386 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: maternity services at Royal Darwin Hospital. The Health Minister and 387 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: also are the CEO saying to us it's looking more 388 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: like it's going to be ten million. 389 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 3: So I just don't know. 390 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: I really don't know if we're ever going to get 391 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: to the point where where our Northern Territory health system 392 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: is funded to the degree that it needs to be. 393 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 3: And it's a worry for people because what I can. 394 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 1: See happens is as people age, they then reach a 395 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: point where they think, well, can I stay living in 396 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory if I'm not able to access the 397 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: aged care bed that I may or may not need, 398 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: but also you know, the health support, what services that 399 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: I need. And that's the last thing we want is 400 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: for people to be moving to another state or territory. 401 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 2: I think a good. 402 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 4: Starting point, Cuddy, we're just to fund the Northern Territory 403 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 4: the same as they fund other states to start with, 404 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 4: we are we are below that funding and that it's 405 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 4: the fact out there. I think it's six percent below 406 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 4: and it equals about two hundred million dollars. So we're 407 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 4: not talking you know, a little you know, money sort 408 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 4: of tends in your pocket. 409 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 2: Money here we're talking over. 410 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 4: Too much amounts which is underfunded, which it doesn't include 411 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 4: the care flight and those things as well. So it's 412 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 4: really time for I think for maybe lit Gozuo needs 413 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 4: to start talking, stop talking about AUDI and start talking 414 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:32,719 Speaker 4: about fund well. 415 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: But can I just say that we also, you know, 416 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: we're talking the Prime Minister. Up until a couple of 417 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 1: days ago, we're looking like we're going to have this 418 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: climate change conference in Australia that was going to cost 419 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: two billion bucks. I'm sorry, but I can think of 420 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: much better places to spend two billion dollars. And you know, 421 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: I get it that obviously climate change where you know, 422 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: they're wanting to make sure that we're front and center 423 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: Australia leading the nation or leading the country, leading the world, 424 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,479 Speaker 1: I should say, when it comes to renewables. 425 00:18:58,960 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 3: And that kind of thing. 426 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: But we're also like we're you know, we're at a 427 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: point where people just want to make sure if they 428 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: need to go to the hospital for any kind of issue, 429 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: that they're actually able to be seen and you know 430 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: I'd said it to John's orbis, I said it to 431 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: the Health minister as well. I reckon, we need to 432 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: invite Elbow to go and sit in the emergency ward 433 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: for twenty four hours and just see how it goes. 434 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: Manuel and I had a laugh off air and said, 435 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: maybe don't send him out to maningredor or somewhere because 436 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: the health service out there is very good as he's 437 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: in the hospital. 438 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 3: But you know, you want to you want him to 439 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 3: truly understand. 440 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: I guess the way in which some of our you know, 441 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: some of our territories, whether you're in an urban center 442 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: or whether you're in a remote center, the path that 443 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: they have to get to to get the health care 444 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: that they actually need and deserve. 445 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 3: We are all, you know, like we're all in this. 446 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 6: Together, Katie. 447 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 5: It's definitely a territory wide issue, you know, like everyone's 448 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 5: it's everyone's business. So whether you're in either parties or 449 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 5: in the panel, we've. 450 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 6: All got to come together and lobby the government. 451 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 5: And you know, if Steve Edge one us to come 452 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 5: up to Canberra with them, we're more than happy to. 453 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 8: So the territory, yeah, seriously impacts a livability of the 454 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 8: Northern Actually say, if we can't offer good age care 455 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 8: services in the Northern Territory, people are going to pack 456 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 8: up and leave. 457 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 7: They're not going to retire here. 458 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,239 Speaker 3: No, and that's a real worry. That's the last thing 459 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 3: we want to see. 460 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break. You are listening to Mix 461 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: one O four ninees three sixty. 462 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 10: It is the week that was mixed one four point 463 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 10: nine three sixty, the week that was the most listened 464 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 10: to our in Territory radio. 465 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: Well, if you've just joined us in the studio this morning, 466 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: we've got Manuel Brown, Kathleen Gazola, Jared Bailey, and Robert Langley. Now, 467 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: all eyes are indeed on this cyclone. Still, Manuel, you've 468 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: just had word from a couple of the communities one 469 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: at least. 470 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 3: What's going on? 471 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, Alan Crop Island. It's starting to pick up in 472 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 5: the winds and it's raining heavily. 473 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: Yeah right, okay, So starting to see the impacts of 474 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: that system. 475 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 3: We'll keep it very close eye things. 476 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: I hope everybody out there is okay, and I know 477 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: they'll be bunkered down and trying their best to stay safe. 478 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: Now it's Jared, there's been a couple of other messages 479 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 1: coming through this morning, somebody wondering they'd been told that 480 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: the courts etc. 481 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 3: Were being closed. 482 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 4: Well, Okatie, it's really business as usual until we get advice. 483 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 4: Otherwise when the next advice is coming at ten thirty. 484 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 4: So what I say is be prepared, don't panic. We 485 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 4: know the cyclone is on its way, so you need 486 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 4: to have that preparation happening. But at the moment, business 487 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 4: as usual. Listen to NT Secure, Listen to your station 488 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 4: at ten thirty or just after ten thirty, and make 489 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 4: sure you're aware. Don't hide away and you think it's 490 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 4: not going to have it's definitely coming. We need to 491 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 4: be prepared and go out and actively look for that 492 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 4: advice just after ten thirty. 493 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and we'll keep you up to date with 494 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,239 Speaker 1: everything that is going on now. Look, it's been a 495 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: massive week when it comes to news, and on Monday, 496 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: well over the weekend, in fact, we learned that police 497 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: had charged we now know four Darwin residents over an 498 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: alleged multimillion dollar defense fraud scheme. Dallas Win, Natalie Win, 499 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: Michael Buckley and his wife Jessica has now been charged 500 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: as well. Now the AFP claimed the defense employee, their 501 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: spouse and a company director worked together to funnel almost 502 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: seventy one million dollars in contracts to a business say 503 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: controlled now. During those raids last Friday, officers seize cash, electronics, jewelry, documents, 504 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: a firearm, and a small amount. 505 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 3: Of suspected drugs. As I said, initially, three people. 506 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: Charged with dishonesty gaining a benefit from a Commonwealth entity, 507 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: while the defense staffer also faces a charge of abusing 508 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: public office. The fourth, Jessica, was reportedly charged yesterday morning 509 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: and is set to appear in court today. 510 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 3: Now I know that. 511 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: You know this isn't matter that's absolutely before the courts, 512 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: so obviously everybody being quite careful what they say. But 513 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: the Master Builders were pretty swift to act, as was 514 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory Indigenous Business Network very swift to act 515 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: as well, to suspend them, I believe from their membership 516 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: within the Northern Territory Indigenous Business Network. 517 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 3: I mean, it's a real worry. 518 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: It's body hard to win a defense contract, so when 519 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: something like this happens, and there's a lot of detail 520 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: still to flow through, but there's been a real push 521 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: for Northern territory businesses to win these defense contracts, and 522 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: now with something like this happening, I just worry what 523 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: it's going to mean for other businesses trying to win 524 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: such contracts through defense. 525 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 9: And I think that was really important for Master Builders 526 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 9: and those other advocacy groups to act swiftly and make 527 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 9: a statement of some sort. Obviously, as you said, a 528 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 9: lot is still to play out in the court process 529 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 9: to come, and they mentioned that it's not a there's 530 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 9: still allegations at the moment. But I think sallyan in 531 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 9: Us from Master Builders made a really good point as 532 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 9: to the federal government and the Defense Department as to 533 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 9: how something like this could allegedly happen and that they 534 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 9: really do need to look at their processes because seventy 535 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 9: one million dollars is a lot of taxpayers money. 536 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,239 Speaker 1: It's a heck of a lot of money. It's in 537 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: an enormous amount of money. I mean, Jared, earlier in 538 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: the week, there'd been some questions about, you know, about 539 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: one of the alleged defenders still being I believe or 540 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: at that point in time they were, they were on 541 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: one of the boards. I can't think what that mt 542 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: ICN and I know that that was sort of I believe, 543 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: attached to their membership on Master Builders. So as they've 544 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: been been no longer on the Master Builders board, then 545 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,719 Speaker 1: they're no longer on that. But questions sort of being 546 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,719 Speaker 1: raised this morning as well in the paper about how 547 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: they've kind of gone on this delegation just days before 548 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: those charges were laid. I assume that literally nobody besides 549 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: the afp knew what was going on until it was happening. 550 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 4: Well, look, I understand there reading through the media that 551 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 4: there's been the investigation has been going on for a while, 552 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 4: and then result in these people being charged. So I 553 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 4: don't really know much more than reading what the media 554 00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 4: has to say, and I do want to note them 555 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 4: my brother may be acting for one of those thing. Yes, 556 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 4: so clear that conflict, But I certainly didn't read about 557 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 4: this in the media, and I agree. I think it's 558 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 4: good that Sally Anne from Master Builders has come out 559 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 4: and very strongly told what their point of view is, 560 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 4: and I think we need to monitor it. We need 561 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 4: to see what's going on, find out what the facts are, 562 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 4: and then we can work out how we can deal 563 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 4: with it. 564 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 8: Isn't it great though, that the federal police have been 565 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 8: onto this. It gives people faith. 566 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 7: You know, no one's above the law. 567 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 8: This sounds like an organized crime ring that we're riding 568 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 8: the wave of success from all outside appearances and they've 569 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 8: been brought to account. I just feel a great sense 570 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 8: of optimism around what we've seen happen in this space 571 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 8: because we all know that we have a problem with 572 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 8: corruption in the Northern Territory. It's far reaching into a 573 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 8: lot of our organizations, or has been historically, and that's 574 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 8: on the public record. So to think that there are 575 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 8: police services federally Northern Territory that are looking into these 576 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 8: people that don't stack up, that are potentially or allegedly 577 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 8: stealing this public money, this is a really good thing 578 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 8: and I think it's great. 579 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, they've done good on them. 580 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 3: I agree when there is. 581 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: Real corruption, when there is an alleged real corruption, the 582 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: police are absolutely onto it. The Australian Federal. 583 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 8: Jail and let them suffer because that's money that should 584 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 8: be spent on our health services. 585 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 3: Well that's the thing. 586 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 1: It is money that is taxpayers dollars. I mean, and 587 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: we're talking here like they've been investigating this for eight months. 588 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: Is my understanding behind the scenes, you know, and and 589 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: eight months of that investigation going on, and now they've 590 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: reached that conclusion. I wonder how much more we're sort 591 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: of going to see come out, because earlier in the 592 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: week the federal police really keeping their cards very close 593 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: to their chest, it seemed in that initial court appearance, 594 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: and not a huge amount of deets sort of flowing through. 595 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 1: So interesting to see. I guess as as the days progress, 596 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: what more we find out? 597 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, so just going forward, you know, our procurement pozies 598 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 5: need to be tight and and you know, definitely a 599 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 5: kick in the guts to the better taxpayers and our contractors, 600 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 5: the ones that are trying to actually do the right thing. 601 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, spot on. Now, Look, there's quite a bit 602 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 3: going on around the place. And Rob and I noted on. 603 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: The ABC News last night that there was a story 604 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: where there was safety concerns or there's certainly safety concerns 605 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: when it comes to senior Alice Springs residents living in 606 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: one particular public housing unit complex where they've been targeted 607 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: a number of times over the last couple of weeks, 608 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: like it's woe full stuff. One of those stories we 609 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: did report on throughout the week where an elderly gentleman 610 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: had been knocked to the ground. As I understand it, 611 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: he'd been laying on the ground there for you know, 612 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: I reckon it was for twelve hours or something before 613 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: the neighbors. 614 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 3: He was in his nineties, incredible. 615 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 8: And he was on TV yesterday The Yeares last night 616 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 8: and he was saying his peace and good on him. 617 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: I agree with you, and had his daughter alongside, you know, 618 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: saying that she really feels that there needs to be 619 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: some safety upgrades to that public housing complex. 620 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 8: I'm absolutely right. That complex isn't in my electorate in 621 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 8: Alice Springs, but I have a similar scene as complex 622 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 8: that I have been asking for a gate to be 623 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 8: put on for years. They put they put a fence 624 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 8: around it, a six foot high fence, but didn't put 625 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 8: a gate on it. So why they even bothered is 626 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 8: beyond me. But yes, this is a problem in Alice 627 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 8: Springs and probably beyond the safety of our old people 628 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 8: living in public housing accommodation. 629 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 3: So Robin, his. 630 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: Name is Ray Wilson, So he was assaulted on will In. 631 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: He's in front of his Saturday in home. I got 632 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: to tell you, it makes my blood boil to think 633 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: about an elderly person being targeted and assaulted in this 634 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: way a moment, Yeah, Like I I just think to myself, 635 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: you wouldn't do it to him if he was a young, 636 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: fit and healthy man. Who could you know, who was 637 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: in a situation where it is it's pathetic. 638 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 3: That's actually a really good description. 639 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 7: And good on Ray. 640 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 8: He still has his strength and the clarity of mind 641 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 8: to come out finding and say this isn't good enough. 642 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 8: We need more protection as old people living in these complexes, Jared, 643 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 8: is it something. 644 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: That the government's going to look into here making sure 645 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: that you know that's I mean that particular housing block 646 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: in Alice Springs to me, it looks like it does 647 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: need some security or at least some patrols or something. 648 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 4: Katie, the charity government takes personal safety and community safety 649 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 4: is number one prior. In fact, that's what we went 650 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 4: to the election on and it's one of our key pillars, 651 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 4: which is keeping the community safe. And there's a lot 652 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 4: of work done already in the last twelve months about 653 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 4: keeping the community safe. And I think the crime stats 654 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 4: are starting to trend down. People are starting to feel safer. 655 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: But Katie, let me, maybe not Alice Springs, though maybe 656 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: not in ours. 657 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 3: They've got people with machetes, you know. 658 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: Like, honestly, over the last week, there's been I think 659 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: three incidents about a week and a half, I should say, 660 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: there's been three incidents that I can remember off the 661 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: top of my head where there's been machete wielding people 662 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: in Alice Springs. So, like, I get it that the 663 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: crime stats are going down in some places, but then 664 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: you go in others. 665 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 3: Goodness, gracious me. 666 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 9: It's also like peace of mind for those residents too. 667 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 9: I mean, like you said, Robin, they put up a 668 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 9: six foot high fence and then no gates. 669 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 7: Like to put a gator. 670 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 3: It's a simple thing. 671 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 9: You know, just for people to feel better within their 672 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 9: own residence, which are allowed to do. Like, yeah, that 673 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 9: article says that that one unit complex has been targeted 674 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 9: three times or something in the last yeah, a long. 675 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 9: It's ridiculous. It's a simple thing that the department could 676 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 9: easily do. 677 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing. 678 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 8: It costs money, and that's what it comes down to, 679 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 8: housing through labor and probably the CLP just do not 680 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 8: have the money to secure these properties like they should. 681 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: Well yeah, and that's you know, securing the properties and 682 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: then if you're not able to secure the property. So 683 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: I know that the Northern Territory government's been hesitant to 684 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: sort of have security patrols. But when you're talking about 685 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: the safety of elderly people, I just wonder whether it 686 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: is something that needs to be looked into. Like to me, 687 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: it's just not good enough that a ninety two year 688 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: old man's on the ground in his unit not able 689 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: to be help for a long extended period of time 690 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: after something like that happens. These paid his taxes, his 691 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: whole life surely deserves a bit better. 692 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 4: We're trying to get people, you know, that police on 693 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 4: the street and for example, an active step we are 694 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 4: taking in the first week in December, which is coming 695 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 4: up very soon, the police are coming out of the 696 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 4: police cells where to look after the criminals and they're 697 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 4: going to go back on the street and the correction 698 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 4: officers are going to go into that. 699 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 10: Yeah. 700 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 4: Right, So it is about putting more police out there 701 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 4: to be able to if you call triple zero, there's 702 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 4: going to be more pleased to be able to come 703 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 4: and respond, and more police. 704 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 2: On the beat. 705 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 3: Wall when start happening, Jered the first week. 706 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 4: In December is when they're going to transition out, and 707 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 4: it's going to be I think about five days off 708 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 4: of a handover process. So let's say by the second 709 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 4: week of December, there'll be more police on the beat 710 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 4: in Alice Springs because we're taking active steps to get 711 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 4: these police away out of the cells and get the 712 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 4: G four s and the prison officers to be able 713 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 4: to do that job. But the focus is about getting 714 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 4: the police away from sitting in there doing an important job. 715 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 4: But they've also got a roll to be out on 716 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 4: the street, walking up and down, being able to respond 717 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 4: and be proactive as well. 718 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 8: I think doing new investigation, doing things differently, Jared, is 719 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 8: what I have applauded about your government. We had years 720 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 8: of labor doing the same thing and getting the same result, 721 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 8: escalating crime. So there has been a slight decrease in 722 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 8: crime in Alice and I will acknowledge that, but it's 723 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 8: still a very very serious problem. So yeah, get out 724 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 8: and do something different. 725 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 4: Only there's a long way to go, but we are 726 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 4: trying our best and we are. Money is a big 727 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 4: issue times and issue, but I always say, you know, 728 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 4: we're upgrading the prison industry and making sure if you 729 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 4: do a crime in the charity, it's time for people 730 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 4: to take personal responsibility, which is fair enough. 731 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 3: You do need to take responsibility for your actions. 732 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: We are going to actually before we go to a break, Jared, 733 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: I just got a message from somebody who said that 734 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: they their child had been an appointment and was due 735 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: to go back to school at ten thirty or after 736 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: ten o'clock this morning, the school is seen. Don't bring 737 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: that child in because they're being told that the schools 738 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: are going to close or that's going to be announced 739 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: at ten thirty. I know you don't want to preempt 740 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: the territory controller, but is that that's what people are 741 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: asking this morning. 742 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 4: I'm saying, be prepared, be ready, because more than like 743 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 4: there's going to happen by you know, the cyclone is 744 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 4: definitely coming. Just be prepared, make plans now so when 745 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 4: that when you do get that call or the advice 746 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 4: does come out, you've got a plan to act. 747 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 9: I think it's just people also having been at work 748 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 9: and wanting to prepare their homes so then they don't 749 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 9: have to go out and run another errand it's king stuff. 750 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 7: I feel anxious. 751 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a cloud metaphorically and actually as well over 752 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: our heats at the moment. You know where you're going, 753 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: all right, Well, what's going to happen next? And people 754 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: just want to know and they want to make sure 755 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: that they can plan for the day. Particularly you know, 756 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: if you're a parent that's wondering if you've got to 757 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: go and collect the kids from school. 758 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 6: Well fuel to three servos to actually access. 759 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 4: Right, That's what I say is no need to panic, 760 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 4: to be prepared and buy what you need. You know 761 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 4: there's panic buying. We're hearing about, no need to go 762 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 4: and buy twenty rolls oft do all it, par can I. 763 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: Just ask why do people think they're going to have 764 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: stomach issues because there's a cyclone? 765 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 9: WI daycare germs. 766 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 3: You might get the bad timing, but. 767 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 4: You don't need twenty rolls. There'll be more over next week, 768 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 4: That's right exactly. 769 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 9: Supermarkets have already had the chance to rest. 770 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 4: So yeah, I reckon, So don't panic, be prepared, you 771 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,240 Speaker 4: know it's coming, have a plan. 772 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 3: And be ready to We're going to take a really 773 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 3: quick break. 774 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: You are listening to mix Fallow four nines three sixty. 775 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 10: It is the week that was mixed one or four 776 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,959 Speaker 10: point nine three sixty, the week that was the most 777 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 10: listened to our in Territory radio. 778 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: Well, if you've just joined us in this studio this morning, 779 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: we've got Robin Lamley, We've got Jered Mayley, we've got 780 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: Kathleen Gazola and Manuel Brown. Now a few messages coming 781 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: through this morning about the cyclone. Just to let our 782 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: listeners know, we're actually going to have the regional controller, 783 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: James O'Brien on the show this morning. He'll be joining us, 784 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: I believe at about ten thirty, so we will be 785 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 1: able to keep you up to date. 786 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 3: With everything that is going on. 787 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: I know that there are a lot of you wondering 788 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: whether the schools are going to be closed, what exactly 789 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: is going to be announced at ten thirty, So we 790 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: will have it all covered for you this morning at 791 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: ten thirty with James O'Brien, he'll be able to keep 792 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: you up to date with everything that's going on. 793 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 8: Now. 794 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: In the meantime, couple of messages. One here somebody had 795 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: actually called through to say that she was inquiring as 796 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: to why the fuel prices across Star will have increased 797 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: due to the cyclone. 798 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,760 Speaker 3: I bloody hope that's not the case. 799 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 4: Well, I hope hope that's not the case. That's certainly 800 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 4: not how it should be. That's not in the community spirit. 801 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 4: We're about trying to make the chartory prepared, you know, 802 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 4: we don't feel to panic and doing those sorts of 803 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 4: things would have to go against community expectations in my pin. 804 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 5: Yeah. 805 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 1: Well, and Manuel, you were saying before you had to 806 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: go around to what three different places to be able 807 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: to get petrol. Yeah, so that was yesterday, was it yesterday? 808 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 6: Yeah? 809 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 4: Well, to god, yeah, just purely to is me is 810 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 4: not within the community. 811 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: I really hope that's not happening. But yeah, I know 812 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: it's going to be busy. It's probably going to be 813 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: busy today, particularly depending on what gets announced at ten thirty, 814 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: there'll be people that start to kind of you know, 815 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 1: it's an anxious time. 816 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 3: I get that, but everybody just try your. 817 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: Best to stay calm, keep an eye out for each other, 818 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: look after each other, particularly this weekend, because I know 819 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 1: that all of us, you know, we're all part of 820 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: the community. You want to make sure that if you 821 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 1: live next door to somebody who's maybe senior, who needs 822 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: a bit of a hand or whatever, that you're checking 823 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: on them because it's a you know, it can be 824 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 1: a difficult time for some, can't it. 825 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 5: Newly people that just moved up and down south that 826 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 5: has experienced cyclones. So all your territorius has been through cyclones. Yelp, 827 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 5: so go and yeah, yeah, calm the neighbors. 828 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,879 Speaker 1: Yeah absolutely, before I let you all go, Jared, any 829 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: update when it comes to the gil neet ban, because 830 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: there's been a discussion that rock Hampton might be emerging 831 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: as the barrow Monday capital of Australia thanks to success 832 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: of its net free zone in the Fitzroy River. I 833 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 1: know that they had a competition recently the Barrow the 834 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: Fitzroy River Barrow Bash and two hundred and seventy three 835 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 1: fish over one meter were landed. 836 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:34,919 Speaker 3: What's going on here? 837 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 4: Okay, they can call themselves wherever they like about that. 838 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 4: I can say I'm the best baron money fisherman in 839 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:39,919 Speaker 4: the world. 840 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 2: But that's not true. That is not true. But look, 841 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:45,760 Speaker 2: the territory is completely different. 842 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 4: That's one river system and I think from my understanding, 843 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 4: a territory went over there won in any ways, think 844 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 4: Shane from the same territory had to go and show 845 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 4: them how it's done, but more in a serious note. Look, 846 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 4: we are committed before the election to facing a gilnet 847 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 4: in this term of government, and we're on track. 848 00:37:59,200 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 6: You do that. 849 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 4: I was at the AGM for fan this week and 850 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 4: I confirm that that's our goal and we're working towards that. 851 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 3: So should we be doing it earlier? 852 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: I mean I caught up with a couple of gentlemen 853 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: earlier in the week from Carefish and they were saying, Katie, 854 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: you know, like this is costing us a heck of 855 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: a lot of money in tourism and revenue if we 856 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: don't phase it out as quickly as possible. 857 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 4: The effort for those guill needs has already gone down. 858 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 4: Some of those. They think there's only fourteen or so 859 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 4: gill net licenses in the northern churchy and I think 860 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 4: the major player has not operated in northern Jurgy, so 861 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 4: the pressure is off in relation to gil netting. If 862 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 4: you're talking about guilding in front of the daily river, 863 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 4: does that going to affect a fish flow? 864 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm not a sign to sign an't no, 865 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 2: but those people. 866 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 4: Aren't out there gill needing at the moment, so the 867 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 4: fish are out there swimming around and the opportunities to 868 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 4: catch them and go your hardest. 869 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 9: I mean, the thing is for I suppose Chris and 870 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 9: Peter that we're here. You know, the Rockhampton banned those 871 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 9: gill nets ten years ago and so now they're seeing 872 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 9: the outcome of it now. So if we have to 873 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 9: wait four more years, then the flow on effect to that. 874 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 9: But then on the other side of the I mean 875 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 9: talking to my husband who's a keen fish show, you know, 876 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 9: as Jared said, it's one river system that they also 877 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 9: release like ten thousand finglings a year in there, and 878 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 9: then I think one of the schools is also releasing 879 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 9: juvenile barramundy in there too, so it's plenty stocked up. 880 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 9: And so our rivers kind of get impacted a lot 881 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 9: by the weather too. 882 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we've got much more offer. 883 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 4: We've got, you know, free throwing rivers, We've got shady camp, 884 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 4: you've got the rope bar you got up on the 885 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 4: Kiwi Island. We've got a lot to offer when it 886 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 4: comes to Barrow Moundey fishing. And in my view, it's 887 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 4: not only about catching a fish, which is a good thing. 888 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 4: It's about the whole experience of going fishing to be 889 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 4: able to go out on Duh Road with your boat 890 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,399 Speaker 4: and go up a river and. 891 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 2: Face maybe a storm. Look, I've got it sort of stuff. 892 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: I grew up in Queensland as most people know, and 893 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: Rocky has got nothing on us. 894 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. 895 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 3: They got nothing on us. So God love Rockhampton. But 896 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 3: you know it's cattle country really. 897 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were where the place you want to go 898 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:52,240 Speaker 1: for a visit. 899 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,240 Speaker 3: We've got so much more than just our barrow Monday. 900 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 3: We've got all We've got cyclones as well. 901 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 2: We got you Katie. 902 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 3: Well look that is all we got time for this morning. 903 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: It's wonderful to have you all in the studio and 904 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: I know that we'll all be making sure that we 905 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 1: stay safe over the course of the weekend. Manuel Brown, 906 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. 907 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 6: Thanks Katie. 908 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 5: Everyone stay safe over the weekend. And we're in cyclone 909 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 5: country so you know, stay safe. 910 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and big shout out to you know, all 911 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: of your communities as well that I know that they'll 912 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: be doing it tough right now as that where the 913 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:35,320 Speaker 1: system hits, so hopefully everybody's safe. Jared Maylee, Deputy Chief Minister, 914 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,240 Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time this morning. 915 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 4: Will you Barre champion, just go back to a seriously, 916 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:43,760 Speaker 4: just be prepared for the cyclone. 917 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 2: We know it's coming. 918 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 4: Don't panic. Listen to the broadcasters, listen to the information. 919 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 4: NT secure is the official information. Go online, get that 920 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 4: and look after your friends. 921 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, thank you. 922 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 1: Jared Robin Lamley the only politician or will you and 923 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 1: Manuel both flying in to where the weather sidelongs potentially 924 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 1: going to him? 925 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 10: Yeah? 926 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 3: Were you twol ready for parliament next week? 927 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 7: I guess your parliament next week all going well? 928 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 6: Yes, it's just like long cold on the Parliament house. 929 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 7: I'll take that unnoticed man 930 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: Hopefully nice and nice and I like, thank you, thanks 931 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 1: so much