1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: My name is Tatasha Bamblet. I'm a proud First Nations 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: woman and I'm here to acknowledge country Ta glennyan Ganya, Niana, 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Kaka yah y and beIN ah Waka Nian our gay In, Nimbini, 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: yakarum jar Dominyamiga Umaga, Ihowaka Nile, waman damind Imlan bomber 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: bang gadabomba in and now in Waka ghana on yak 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: rum jar Watnadaa. Hello, beautiful friends, we gather on the 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: lands of the Aboriginal people. We thank acknowledge and respect 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: the Abiginal people's land that we're gathering on today. Take 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: pleasure in all the land and respect all that you see. 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: She's on the Money podcast acknowledges culture, country, community and connections, 11 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: bringing you the tools, knowledge and resources for you to thrive. 12 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 2: And a big thank you, of course to the wonderful 13 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: team at Tourism n T for sponsoring today's episode. 14 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 3: She's on the Money. 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 4: She's on the Money, Hello, and welcome to She's on 16 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 4: the Money, the podcast that's here to help you live 17 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 4: your best life for less. Have you ever saved so 18 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 4: hard to book that dream holiday only to realize everyone 19 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 4: else had exactly the same idea flights then cost a bomb. 20 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 4: Everybody has booked out the hotels. You have to fight 21 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 4: for a sun lounger. Why are people putting toaels out 22 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 4: at six am and playing DIBs? So absolutely unacceptable and serenity. Well, 23 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 4: you'd be more relaxed if you went to work during 24 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 4: the end of financial year. But when we went on 25 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 4: our recent trip, mister Esgricci to the Northern Territory, we 26 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 4: accidentally found our new favorite travel money saving hack. 27 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 3: And I promise it's not me eating cereal. 28 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 4: In my hotel room like I have told you before, 29 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 4: but it will make your next trip cheaper, calmer, and 30 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 4: a whole lot better. For those of you who may 31 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 4: not have met me, I am Victoria Devine and with 32 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 4: me is my favorite travel buddy, Miss Jessicci. 33 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 2: That's so lovely. Thank you, Thanks for having you on 34 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: a Wednesday. 35 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 3: We've also done a lot of travel together. 36 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 2: We've done a lot of We've checked off a herber 37 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: countries almost every state. So weget to Tasmania, but I'll 38 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: take you to Tazzi see the family. I'll just be like, hey, Nan, 39 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: you got spare room she's got like four sparerooms. We 40 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: go see our Queen vella. But we have We've done 41 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: a lot of travel together, and we just got back 42 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: from the Northern Territory, which was. 43 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 4: Literally magic, Like there is something up there that the 44 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 4: secondary land in Alice Springs or we Land, and in 45 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 4: Alice Springs. 46 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: I don't know what it is. It's the it's the land, 47 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 3: it's the connection. I don't know. I just felt magic. 48 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: That's what I've been telling everybody. 49 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 4: I'm not a super spiritual person, says the woman who 50 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 4: wants to hire an etsy witch, but there is. 51 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: There's just this feeling, and I really think it's because 52 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: the land has been cared for with such dedicate for generations. 53 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 2: There's ah. I felt so at peace, which also probably 54 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: has something to do with the fact there's not a 55 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 2: lot of phone reception in some areas. 56 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 4: There with like full days where I'm like, I've been 57 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 4: on SOS all day and I have never felt better. 58 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: I loved it. 59 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: It was brilliant. 60 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 4: As we said, obviously, there's something very special about the 61 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 4: Northern Territory. And we have literally traveled the world together. 62 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 4: We've done Europe, We've done America, like we are probably 63 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 4: going to do a lot more. But for me, I 64 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 4: think it was like the landscape, the natural beauty and sorry, 65 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 4: so much of the stuff we did, Yes we had 66 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 4: to drive to them, but it was free. 67 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: Yes, there's a lot of great activities and it's right 68 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: in our own backyard. Like it's so much more affordable, 69 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: I think, to fly and we have such a diverse 70 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: landscape exactly as you're saying here at home. And I'll 71 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: be honest, like I had not done enough travel in 72 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: Australia and we have so much on offer, I think, 73 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: And yeah, the Northern territory especially, you've got the desert, 74 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 2: You've got all of this beautiful like a high king 75 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: and the sunshine, which I'll be honest, being from Melbourne, 76 00:03:59,360 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: I really need. 77 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 4: We did or we needed that desperately and it was 78 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 4: so funny. So Jess, myself and Brook from our team 79 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 4: all went on this little like I would say, girls 80 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 4: trip together and the whole time we were there, like 81 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 4: we kept finding out the price of things or like 82 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 4: going to an attraction and there were no people and 83 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 4: just would. 84 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 3: Be like, yep, that's off peak benefits. 85 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 4: Slightly recent time you were like off peak benefits and 86 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 4: I was like, Jess Carr, you sound like a broken 87 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 4: record and it's just me in the room, but it 88 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 4: was it was true because there were so many money wins, 89 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 4: and it kind of made me realize that we're all 90 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 4: programmed to think that off peak travel means you're going 91 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 4: to have a worse experience literally, like you're going to like, 92 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 4: you know, go and maybe the weather's not as good, 93 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 4: or you're going to go and it's not. 94 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 3: Going to be like as pristine or something. 95 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 4: And when we're planning, I think we default to peak 96 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 4: season without really thinking about it. 97 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 2: Yep. 98 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 4: And I was trying to decipher what peak and off 99 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 4: peak meant, like who decided, oh, like September holidays are 100 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 4: the best holidays you know to travel to x yo 101 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 4: z and. 102 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 3: Get into it. We all know. 103 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 4: I've got a background in psychology, so I fall back 104 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 4: on it every single time, and just there is actually 105 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 4: a lot of psychology behind it. So first things first 106 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 4: is social proof, Like we as humans love social proof. 107 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 4: We just assume if everyone's going at that time, it 108 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 4: must be the best time, and popularity feels like quality 109 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 4: and that's not necessarily the case. But then also I 110 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 4: find it quite funny because if you dig a little deeper, 111 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 4: often it's just because school holidays are on and people 112 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 4: are like, well, what do we do with our kids 113 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 4: during September? Or we all go on holidays and then 114 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 4: all of that's on peak season. But that doesn't mean 115 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 4: it's the best weather or the best experience faumo or 116 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 4: I'm MOVIINGDM. 117 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: To this sun. 118 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 4: We always want to travel when other people are traveling, 119 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 4: and like, I feel like social media really perpetuates that. 120 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 4: And it's basically so that we don't feel like we're 121 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 4: missing out on shared experience, and then it kind of 122 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 4: plays into habit and then cognitive ease. 123 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 3: I love a little bit of cognitive ease. 124 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 2: Tell me more about that. 125 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 3: We stick to what we know. 126 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 4: We grew up holidaying during holiday periods, so we keep 127 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 4: doing that. It feels easy and familiar and kind of 128 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 4: you look forward to it and go, oh, well, in September, 129 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 4: that's when we go on holidays, and there's no additional 130 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 4: mental load of you know, working out, Oh Jess, could 131 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 4: you get annual leave during that time? Or we've never 132 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 4: taken time off during you know, November or whatever. Even 133 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 4: if it's not like the smartest or the cheapest time. 134 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 4: We just fall into a default of well, that's the 135 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 4: time that we do that, and then market conditioning, travel 136 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 4: ads and tourism boards literally position peakers the time to go, 137 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 4: so then we associate it with well, it must be 138 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 4: the best weather, it must be the best experiences, we 139 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 4: must go. 140 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 3: But what we forget is crowdstone equal quality. They usually 141 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 3: just mean higher. 142 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 4: Prices, longer lines, more weight time like one out of 143 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 4: ten experience. And one of my biggest realizations from this 144 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 4: trip was actually seeing how different travel feels when you're 145 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 4: not surrounded by hundreds of people looking at a gorgeous landmark. Jess, 146 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 4: I want to ask you, though, because you kept being 147 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 4: like off big travel when what were your favorite things 148 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 4: about being in the Northern Territory during the quieter months. 149 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 2: It just allows you to take it in in a 150 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: way that you can't when you're surrounded by others. I think, 151 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: especially in the Northern Territory, particularly. 152 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 3: The Simpson's Gap, there was nobody else. 153 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: But us, not a soul, and I think it is 154 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: so lovely to sit in that moment and enjoy it. 155 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: It's really hard. I know that I'm a bit of 156 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: an introvert and so crowd's not my favorite thing at 157 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: the best stop me either. 158 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 3: So like, just take that with a grain of salt. 159 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 4: Maybe you're like, what do you mean, V I love 160 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 4: waiting forty five minutes for one water slide. 161 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's you. That's so fair. But I 162 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: just really loved being able to absorb it at my 163 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: own pace, in my own time. You know, there are 164 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: some huge bucket list items for people, I think in 165 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 2: the Northern Territory specifically. You know, we went to Uluru, 166 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: we went to Cadajutor, you know, to get a beautiful photo. 167 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: And I feel like I need to say at the 168 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: top of this, I know that traveling is not just 169 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: about getting a great photo, Are you sure? 170 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 4: I know. 171 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: I love to capture the moment because I don't have 172 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: the best memory, and so taking a great photo for 173 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 2: me sometimes. 174 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 3: Is about capturing their feeling exactly right, and so. 175 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: Being able to take your time in a spot and 176 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: not feel like you've got a one tape wonder it. 177 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: Get out of the way so the next person, next person, 178 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: next person, to be able to really absorb and enjoy 179 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: and move at a slower pace, which I think when 180 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: you're traveling sometimes we can get really go, go go, 181 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: And some of that is I think, like really pushed 182 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: by the fact that we're moving with these crowds or 183 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: moving through to try and be as quick as possible 184 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: so we're not putting somebody else. 185 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 3: Out, yeah, or getting in the way of their photo 186 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: or what. 187 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: Exactly, being able to just experience those things in our 188 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: own time. You know. We went and we just sat 189 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 2: on a chair and we sat there for like fifteen minutes. 190 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, we literally did nothing. It was so good, and 191 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 3: we're all just staring out. 192 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 2: Like whoa, They're just sitting in silence and absorbing the 193 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 2: history and the feeling and the energy. And I know 194 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 2: that it sounds very woo woo, but I just can't 195 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: put a price on that type of experience, And it's 196 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 2: crazy that it's actually more affordable than doing it with 197 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 2: the masses. 198 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, and you know, I feel like it gives 199 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 4: you a little bit more time. I feel like I'm 200 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 4: just reflecting on Northern Territory, but off peak travel in general, 201 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 4: but the Northern Territory for me, just having chats with 202 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 4: the locals because we were like, you know, the only 203 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 4: people out there at that time, so they. 204 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 3: Were like, oh, what are you up to? Why are 205 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 3: you here? 206 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 4: Like we had just got to connect with people in 207 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 4: a different way. And I mean, we did the King's 208 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 4: Canyon hike, which are you loft the stairs the best? 209 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 3: Didn't you just going out the stairs? 210 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 4: We almost died, but that's okay. We're still here to 211 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 4: tell the tale. But that hike was glorious. We got 212 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 4: up at like before sunrise so that we could see 213 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 4: the sunrise over Kings Canyon, which cannot recommend more. But 214 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 4: we didn't see one single person on the way up, 215 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 4: and I think we passed like one small group on 216 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 4: the way back down. And it was so funny because 217 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 4: our team knew them, like we're coming back. 218 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 3: Down and they were like, oh, hey, oh you're going 219 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: to be here. I didn't know you were here. That's crazy. 220 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 3: So it definitely is a small world. 221 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 4: But then also it was quite i don't know, very 222 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 4: cool to not feel like you're hiking up a whole 223 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 4: heap of steps and holding a heap of people back 224 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,599 Speaker 4: because we were just do you and I might have 225 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 4: wanted to take it a little bit slower at your 226 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 4: own pace. 227 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 3: Not gonna lie. 228 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 4: I feel like I wasn't enjoying that part of the 229 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 4: hike until we got to the top, and then I 230 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 4: was like, oh, well that was worth it. But like 231 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 4: if I'd turned back, I would have been like, what 232 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 4: was that? 233 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and just being present, like really absorbing at all. 234 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. 235 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 4: And I feel like a lot of people would go, oh, 236 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 4: but the weather's not as good go it is the 237 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 4: Northern Territory. It was dry as it usually is, and 238 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 4: to be honest, the temperatures were a lot less dramatic. 239 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 4: Like you have had the privilege of going to the 240 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 4: Northern Territory twice this year, just went on a very 241 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 4: nice trip to Ularu, but you didn't really get out 242 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 4: of Ularo. So this time we did Alice Springs and 243 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 4: drove all the way down to Ularu, which was a 244 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 4: lot of hours in the car. 245 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 3: So when you say, oh you get to go slower, no, no, no. 246 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 4: Sorry, it's one hundred and thirty kilometer an hour on 247 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 4: the roads out there. So I was like, please go 248 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 4: faster because this is taking forever. But then you just 249 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 4: get good weather, good people. Lots of people want to 250 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 4: go to the Northern Territory. In June, I was talking 251 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 4: to a few people at the park and they were saying, oh, 252 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 4: like our busiest time is literally like July. Yeah, and 253 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 4: I was like, it would be freezing, and they're like, 254 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 4: it absolutely isn't It was. It's like absolutely freezing, But we. 255 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 2: Didn't really have that No, didn't need any layers really, 256 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 2: And I think the thing is off peak travel broadly. 257 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: It is like often I think people think about the weather. 258 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: Right if you're traveling not in the midst of summer 259 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 2: or you know, the midst of the Northern territory, you 260 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 2: want to be there when it's cooler. You know, people go, oh, 261 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 2: the weather's gonna be awful, and it's gonna be I'm 262 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: gonna have a terrible time. But you can split your 263 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: activities up too, like we did quite a bit of 264 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 2: we'd go out and do something in the morning. Well 265 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 2: it was still a little. 266 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 3: Bit cooler, especially the hikes and stuff like. 267 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 4: You do have to be quite thoughtful, I think, to 268 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 4: not put your body through too much stress if not necessary. 269 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, come back to the hotel, relax. You know, if 270 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 2: you're staying somewhere beautiful, they might be a pool something 271 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: like that, and then you can go back a little 272 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: bit later in the day. Conversely, if you're somewhere where 273 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: it's really cold, you can do the same thing. Be 274 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: out during the warm up hours, be out during the 275 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: daylight hours, and be cozy when you're not. I just 276 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 2: think it's a real myth that the marketing agencies have 277 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: come up with to make us think that you can 278 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: only travel at the most expensive time of the year, 279 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 2: when really the magic is in enjoying it when not 280 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: everybody else is. 281 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, all right, let's take a really quick break 282 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 4: and when we get back, we're going to dive into 283 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 4: all of the money wins when it comes to traveling 284 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 4: off peak, and our tips to I would say, do 285 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 4: it like a pro, guys, don't go anywhere. My friends, 286 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 4: we are back and we are chatting about our fave 287 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 4: new money saving travel hack, and it's just traveling when 288 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 4: it's quieter, traveling off peak. And just when we realized 289 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 4: that this was like the genius move that we've all 290 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 4: been sleeping on, I think we realized all the money 291 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 4: wins that were involved. So it's not just like, oh, 292 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 4: you get the place to yourself and you know it's 293 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 4: quiet up money. We loved all of those things obviously, 294 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 4: but like, sorry, everything was cheaper, like flights are cheaper 295 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 4: and then more more available, like even last minute, they're 296 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 4: more available to just jump on a plane and go. 297 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 3: And then airlines are. 298 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 4: More likely to be like, oh it's on sale or 299 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 4: it's discounted because they just know that it's the shoulder 300 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 4: season and they're like, oh, we'll probably just getting people 301 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 4: who need to come and go rather than like peak 302 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 4: and people going on holidays, so we can charge a 303 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 4: bit more. They're not really running the promotions that they 304 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 4: are like, oh, this is the best time to go. 305 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 4: They're actually like trying to get you on those flights 306 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 4: at cheaper rates, which low key smart we. 307 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 2: Should have said, guys, if you want to see what 308 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 2: we got up to too, we've posted a real on Instagram, 309 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 2: so go check that out. 310 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, we did a whole video, and like we really 311 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 4: tried to balance this trip out with like, okay, let's 312 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 4: actually zoom out a little bit and look at where 313 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 4: we might be spending a little bit more time. So 314 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 4: when we were at King's Canyon when you would have 315 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 4: like earlier nights because we hadn't booked anything. 316 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 2: Late, we were chatting to the people at the King's 317 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: Canyon Accommodation and they were telling us that when we 318 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,599 Speaker 2: were traveling in the off peak season, it's up to 319 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: thirty percent cheaper than it is the rest of the 320 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 2: arch too, which I thought was crazy. 321 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 4: The rooms that we were in with thirty percent less 322 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 4: just because it was off pick the same experience and 323 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 4: then car higher and like, you know, some people want 324 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 4: to get camper vans, especially up there, they were a 325 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 4: lot cheaper. I won't say that fuel was incredible, no, 326 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 4: because you know, it's obviously remote. I'm not going to 327 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 4: beat around the bush lol. But I'm not going to 328 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 4: beat around the bush and be like, oh, that was 329 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 4: so cheap. It wasn't It was more expensive. I think 330 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 4: full transparency fuel in the Northern Territory, I think it 331 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 4: was about two dollars forty a liter, which was crazy. 332 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 4: But your fuel efficiency is going to be better if 333 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 4: you're not fighting traffic, so less people on the road, 334 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 4: less traffic means better fuel economy, and that's going to 335 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 4: go further. So like, yes, you're still going to have 336 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 4: to pay the insane fuel prices, but like we're just 337 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 4: being transparent about what that's going to cost. 338 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 3: And that's not an off peak or and on pick thing, 339 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 3: you know, I love a loyalty program. You don't like points, 340 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 3: do you? 341 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 2: I love a point So this is one that I 342 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: thought was really clever. Your points stretch further for redemptions 343 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 2: and things. 344 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, because you're getting the discount. 345 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: Exactly and you'll really struggle, I think also to snag 346 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: you know, a points flight or something like that during 347 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: the peak season when everyone's trying to secure it. But 348 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: during off peak there's more available, they're cheaper, so those 349 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 2: points really stretch so much further, which I think is 350 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: a great way to help keep again the costs of 351 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:22,479 Speaker 2: your trip down even further. Also, last minute flexibility and availability. 352 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because we booked pretty last minute. Not gonna 353 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 4: lie like this was a trip that we didn't plan 354 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 4: from the start of the year. No, And it means that, 355 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 4: you know, I think you're really punished for it. Our 356 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 4: ADHD is out there. 357 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 2: You know, if you're somebody who forgets and does things 358 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 2: last minute, you'd be all too familiar with the tax 359 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: that you can pay when you are doing something last minute. 360 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: If you wanted to be a little spontaneous, do it 361 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 2: in the off season, because it is that, like you're avoiding. 362 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: I guess that tax that you pay for premium travel 363 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 2: time during the year, and. 364 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 4: You can also just make use of like your annual leave. Well, Like, 365 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 4: don't get me wrong, like a lot of us are 366 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 4: are taking it off. Yeah, but I'm fine that a 367 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 4: lot of my friends at the moment, I'm having these 368 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 4: conversations side note, complete side note about them working overtime 369 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 4: and like I'm that crazy, Like I feel like I'm 370 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 4: your money mum. 371 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 3: Hey, if you're working lots. 372 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 4: Of overtime and you don't get paid for overtime, can 373 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 4: you just go to your boss and be like, hey, 374 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 4: could I get some time in lou for all the 375 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 4: overtime I'm doing and I'm not going to get paid 376 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 4: for it. That's fine, but like it's all really adding up, 377 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 4: and like I'm getting a little bit burnt out. Use 378 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 4: your time in lou and maybe you go like we did, 379 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 4: for three or four days instead of having to plan 380 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 4: a whole two week holiday. I think in my head 381 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 4: growing up, holidays were two weeks. They can be three 382 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 4: or four days and you still just get so much 383 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 4: out of them. I'd also say that we saw a 384 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 4: lot of like tours and activities, especially while we were 385 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 4: up there, like just being advertised at our hotels or 386 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 4: on the boards out the front of hotels or like 387 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 4: activity centers and stuff for big discounts, like you know, 388 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 4: on average, I think you'd get at least ten to 389 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 4: thirty percent off, if not more, or like free add ons, 390 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 4: because like they'll be like, oh my gosh, there's a 391 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 4: tour leaving tonight and there's some free spots. You'll get 392 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 4: free drinks, free transfer from your hotel for this sunset tour. 393 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, fantastic money win. 394 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 4: But even if you're booking in advance, they're usually discounted anyway. 395 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think especially in those quiet times, they just 396 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: want to fill them up as much as possible. Like normally, 397 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: if you're traveling during peak, sometimes having the opposite problem 398 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 2: where you're battling to get a spot for something, you're 399 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 2: trying to book it out weeks in advance, whereas when 400 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 2: you're there when it's not so busy, they're excited that 401 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 2: you're there as well. I think having less people on 402 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: the tour again means that you can really connect with 403 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 2: whoever's leading it. You can absorb the information, ask questions, 404 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: and have opportunities to I guess dive a little bit 405 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 2: deeper than you would if you were on a tour 406 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 2: that's got you know, fifty people on it because it's 407 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 2: booked out because it's prime season. 408 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 409 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 4: Well, we were off peak and obviously in a relatively 410 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 4: remote location, probably the most remote you could get in Australia, 411 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 4: and we booked like small group tours that ended up 412 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 4: being private tours because. 413 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 3: Nobody else came on out to you and we were like, 414 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 3: so is that it and. 415 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 4: They would be like, yep, we've just got booked for 416 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 4: three and we were like, okay, let's go on our 417 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 4: little private tour. 418 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 2: Then literally so much cheaper than pay for an actual problem. 419 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 3: O my god. Yeah, like money win. 420 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 4: But then even if there were some other people and 421 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 4: on occasion they were you're making friends, but not in 422 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 4: this like there's forty people on this tour kind of situation. 423 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 3: We also found that we didn't have to pre book restaurants, 424 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 3: which I loved, Yeah. 425 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 4: Because we didn't have to go, oh my goodness, like 426 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 4: we've got that booking at seven, Like we could just 427 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 4: roll into the restaurant that we'd pre picked out, which 428 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 4: means obviously easier reservations if you are planning on booking 429 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 4: because there's more capacity, but like there was less need 430 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 4: to book, which put less pressure on us and we 431 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 4: could make more last minute decisions. Yeah, whereas the amount 432 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 4: of times and this is so entitled, but if you've 433 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 4: ever been to Port Douglas, my husband and I adore 434 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 4: it there. But when I'm booking Port Douglas, I will 435 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 4: book months in advance, really, and yes, like for the 436 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 4: hotel and accommodation, fine, you're still like slim pickings usually, 437 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 4: but by the time you get there and you. 438 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 3: Go, oh, what do we do for dinner? 439 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 4: Too late, babe, Like I'm booking our dinner reservations at 440 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 4: exactly the same time as my flight's and accommodation. Sit 441 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 4: down with my husband, I'm like, we'll go to that 442 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 4: nice Mexican place on the Wednesday or the Thursday. 443 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 3: What do you reckon? 444 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 4: And he always goes, why are you booking it now 445 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 4: because it'll be booked out. Yeah, And then I fly 446 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 4: into this very structured holiday and there's no whimsy. 447 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: I loved that we could just go where the day 448 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 2: took us, see how we were feeling, see what days 449 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 2: we were energized. If we went somewhere and we wanted 450 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 2: to spend more time. We could because we didn't have 451 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 2: that much structure that we had to adheres you with 452 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 2: all of those bookings, because we could just wander into 453 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 2: a restaurant and grab a table immediately and not have 454 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 2: to wait. 455 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. The other thing I want to add here, less whimsy, 456 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 4: more stereotypical victoria divine. 457 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 3: Travel insurance. Oh yes, I have said it before. 458 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 4: If you cannot afford travel insurance, you cannot afford the holiday. 459 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 4: I am so sorry. If you're not buying travel insurance, 460 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 4: you're not going. That's the rule. I made the rules. 461 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 4: You've got to follow the rules. But travel insurance usually 462 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 4: costs a whole lot less when the total trip value 463 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 4: is lower, so you're probably saving money there as well. 464 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 4: But it's just like a gentle reminder. Yes, even though 465 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 4: you are traveling in Australia, I would be looking at, 466 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 4: you know, covering your flights and accommodation if something happened, 467 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 4: it's going to be a lot cheaper than international travel insurance. Yeah. 468 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 4: But also if you're planning on going international off peak, 469 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 4: you still need travel insurance absolutely. 470 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 2: And I think just overall, anecdotally, we saw like a 471 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 2: lot of what I'm going to call soft perks, maybe 472 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 2: late checkouts, welcome drinks, breakfast inclusion was very cute. Yeah, 473 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 2: it was lovely and things like that that again you 474 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 2: normally would have to pay a little bit of a 475 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 2: premium for, just because operators want to keep the guests happy, 476 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 2: they want you to have a good experience, they want 477 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 2: more people to be there when it's quiet, and so 478 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: often we were seeing just sweet little above and beyond 479 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 2: moments and that's. 480 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 3: What you want on a holiday. 481 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, we really got to enjoy them. 482 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 4: It's what we talk about for years to come. And 483 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 4: like in the WHI at a months, your money is 484 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 4: going to stretch a little bit further without you even trying, really, 485 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 4: and it's not about quote budget travel. It's just about 486 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 4: smart travel, all right. So I hope we've done a 487 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,959 Speaker 4: good job at like now convincing you all that traveling 488 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 4: off peak is definitely the way to go. So we've 489 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 4: put together some travel tips for off peak travel like 490 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 4: a pro, And the first one I've written down here 491 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 4: is get to know shadow season. The two weeks before 492 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 4: and after your official peak dates are called the shadow season, 493 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 4: and in the shadow season you can still get the 494 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 4: same weather and the same experiences, but at shoulder season 495 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 4: prices and Jess you were talking before, and I'm going 496 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 4: to get you to read this next one out basically 497 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 4: all yours but AI. 498 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 2: How Yeah, you can check event calendars with the help 499 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 2: of AI. You can drop your destination into whatever AI 500 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 2: platform you lack and say, list every major event, conference, 501 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 2: and school holiday period happening in you know your destination 502 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 2: between the dates of the months of the off peak, 503 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 2: so for NT for example, I think it's September to 504 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 2: feb and then they can suggest for you the quietest 505 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 2: weeks with the lowest average accommodation rates and you'll instantly 506 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 2: be able to see where the price is spike versus 507 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 2: where they drop off, which I think is so handy 508 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 2: when you're looking to plan and you are trying to 509 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 2: make sure that you're being conscious of prices. 510 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 511 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 4: Absolutely, And once you've worked out like travel date periods, 512 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 4: you can plug them into Google's flights price graph or 513 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 4: there's a website called Hopper, so Hopper's AI prediction tool, 514 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 4: but both use AI to forecast when fares will rise 515 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 4: or drop and show you the cheapest days to book 516 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 4: in real time so that you can lock in the 517 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 4: sweet spot before the price is climb, and the website 518 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 4: Hopper even lets you quote watch different routes so you 519 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,719 Speaker 4: can get notifications when they think the price is going 520 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 4: to drop or when it's going to get more expensive, 521 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 4: which I genuinely think is the money win so handy. 522 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 2: I'd also say follow the trois and bodies on Instagram 523 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 2: or sign up for their newsletters. Most of them have 524 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: really fantastic websites as well. They're often the first ones 525 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 2: to share new travel campaigns and partner promos, off peak packages, 526 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 2: things like that. They also a great for in spoke. 527 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 2: They'll normally have beautiful photos of great you know, location 528 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 2: things to do, and. 529 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 4: I think a lot of people assume that, like when 530 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 4: you're going to follow some people online for travel, you 531 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 4: probably should follow the hotels. And I would say, girl, 532 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 4: zoom out a bit further, like follow the Northern Territory 533 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 4: Instagram because they're going to talk about the package deals 534 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 4: or like you know, the National Park events and things 535 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 4: that you're actually or I would say actually going for 536 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 4: because like for me, you're not just going to the Northern. 537 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 3: Territory because you're like, oh, it's a beautiful hotel. 538 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 4: I'd like to experience, Like it's the broader experience and 539 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 4: like getting to see what they're doing I think is 540 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,719 Speaker 4: even better inspiration. 541 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 3: And then this is me just being me and maybe 542 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 3: being a little bit cheeky. But we're going to pick 543 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 3: up the phone. 544 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 4: I know not many of you like that, but we're 545 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 4: going to pick up the phone and call hotels and 546 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 4: tour companies before we book online because the online rates 547 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 4: are never final, right. Smaller hotels and like local tour 548 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 4: operators often have like quiet week discounts that they're like, oh, 549 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 4: I don't want to like advertise that or like put 550 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 4: it online, but like they might be really quiet and 551 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 4: they'll go, oh, yeah, actually I could give you a 552 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 4: discount if you locked it in today. 553 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 3: So call them and ask them, little script friend, they do. 554 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 4: You have any off peak rates or like midweek specials 555 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 4: or ways to like, you know, book directly for a 556 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 4: discount because sometimes if actually every single time you book 557 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 4: through booking dot com, they're clipping the ticket, so like 558 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 4: that is not the cheapest way to book, but they'll 559 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 4: make it look that way and make it look like 560 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 4: the best deal. But essentially they're a third party and 561 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 4: they're getting some of the money along the way, so 562 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 4: it may as well go back into the small business 563 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 4: owners back pocket, and you'd be shocked at how often 564 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 4: they go, oh, yeah, actually, let me see what I 565 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 4: can do, because I promise you they would rather fill 566 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,239 Speaker 4: a room or a tour at a lower rate than 567 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 4: have those seats empty. Absolutely, they would exactly, And when 568 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 4: you call, we're being very kind. But you can also 569 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 4: negotiate extras, not just prices. If they're like, oh my gosh, 570 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 4: like you know, we don't have off peak rates, we 571 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 4: can be like, oh, could we like do later check out, 572 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 4: like you know, is breakfast included? And they go no, 573 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 4: And I'll be like, oh, could you throw it in? 574 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 4: Like what's going on there? Like if they can't drop 575 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 4: the rate, they might try and negotiate with you on 576 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 4: other things that they can put in. And it might 577 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 4: be like a room upgrade, or like free parking, or 578 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 4: even like a tour operator might be like, oh, I'll 579 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 4: pick you up from your hotel for free, like you 580 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 4: don't have to overhear or you don't have to like 581 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 4: work out how to get public transport here, will pick 582 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 4: you up because I promise you they want the business 583 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 4: so that they can keep their customers happy. 584 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so many little great perks on offer. And lastly, 585 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 2: don't forget about the off peak loyalty stacking. 586 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 3: Oh you're back on the points trainer, get you know. 587 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: I love it. 588 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 2: Offee windows mean better rewards, so don't forget to use 589 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,959 Speaker 2: cash back sites. If you're a credit card user, there 590 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 2: might be travel portals or things that you can use 591 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: to double dip. You'll score cash back, more bonus points 592 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 2: and the cheaper off pick rate all in one. 593 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 3: Go absolutely all right. 594 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 4: If there's one thing you took away from our trip 595 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 4: that isn't the Northern Territories the most magical place in 596 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 4: the entire world, it's that off peak isn't low season, 597 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 4: its value season, and that's very shees on the money 598 00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 4: of you to consider. 599 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: It's very brand and if you are looking for a 600 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 2: bucket least worthy holiday that genuinely I think will change 601 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 2: your life. 602 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 3: I have not stopped yapping about it, n have I I. 603 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 2: Can't recommend the MT enough, especially with all of the 604 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 2: deals that they're running right now during the off peak season. 605 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 2: I think there's truly never been a better time to 606 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 2: go and to connect with our country and just really 607 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 2: experience something that I'm struggling to put into words. 608 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 4: When we were there, we posted a lot on social media, 609 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 4: and I saw two very common themes coming out of that. 610 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 4: So first was people saying, oh my goodness, I have 611 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 4: always wanted to go. This looks incredible, like you're really 612 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 4: selling me on it. And I was like, I wasn't 613 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 4: even trying. I'm just like taking photos of kangaroos. 614 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 3: I promise you. I'm just a girl with a camera. 615 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 4: And then on the flip side, it was people that 616 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 4: had been and they're like, oh my goodness, I'm so 617 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 4: glad you're experiencing this magic, like isn't it the. 618 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 3: Best place ever? Or people who were local, so lots 619 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 3: of girls. 620 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 4: And I didn't realize we had such a big community 621 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 4: in Alice Springs, Like if I had known, I would 622 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 4: have come early and we could have done like, I 623 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 4: don't know, you meet up at a bookshop something. But 624 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 4: so many of you were like, oh my goodness, I 625 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 4: hope you have the best time here. It's literally magic, 626 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 4: like you're going to have the best time. I'm so 627 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 4: glad that you're sharing like photos on socials because we 628 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 4: want more people to come and visit. 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