1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Well, a real change of pace as we focus on 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: hearing and ear health. Now, for many people it's probably 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 1: one element of your health that you may not pay 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: a huge amount of attention to until something goes wrong. 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: But it's a big one, especially for us here on radio, 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: there's no doubt about that. And joining it me now 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: on World Hearing Day is Territory Hearing audiologist Solomon Joseph, 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: Good morning to you. 9 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 2: Good morning Katy. 10 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 3: It is wonderful to be with you, Katy on this 11 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 3: World Hearing Day. Territorians loved to hear your perspective on 12 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 3: current affairs and you you stand tall as the fourth 13 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 3: pillar of democracy as the media personal to make those 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 3: people accountable. Oh thank you who make the decisions for 15 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 3: Territori and so that tax me as experience. 16 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is very true. 17 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: Oh thank you Solomon. You'd organ you'd had your own 18 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: intro there. I love that. Now we'll get you in 19 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: helping out reducing the show Crystal of Suliman. It is 20 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: such an important day, though, is not World Hearing Die. 21 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, the intro, it's one of 22 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: those things that you probably take for granted a little 23 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: bit until you can't actually. 24 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: Hear absolutely absolutely, it's not really for an adult for 25 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: children and his people, and we ignore sometime, okay, and 26 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 3: average individual Katie will take after the diagnosis of hearing 27 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: laws eighty years to do something about it. 28 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: Really absolutely so like. 29 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: A gradual hearing loss or an immediate hearing loss. 30 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 3: No, it's the acceptance. They are not accepting that they 31 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: have a problem. Right, think about our vision, Yeah, okay, 32 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: we do the Kevin we have difficulty to read. We 33 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 3: see an optometrist and they prescribe an okay glass and 34 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 3: we do it. 35 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: But as for as hearing eighties concerned. 36 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 3: People take a lot of time the acknowledgement, and generally 37 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: the human tendency is when we cannot hear well, blame 38 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 3: the other person. You are not talking well, So talk 39 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 3: to our parents and grandparents. They generally tend to blame 40 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 3: the other person. And when we as audiologists when do 41 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: the hearing assessment and elderly people will have a high 42 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 3: frequency hearing loss that is generally permanent hearing laws and 43 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: they cannot hear the female sounds and the children's sound 44 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 3: because the sound has got a place in the audiogram 45 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: every sounds, so the high frequency sounds are predominantly produced 46 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 3: by females and children. The male sounds are predominantly low 47 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 3: frequency sound, and generally there is a saying that my 48 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 3: husband has got selective hearing. 49 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,839 Speaker 1: That it's not true. 50 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 3: You're right, this is actually is a hearing loss. That 51 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: is why we after the hearing assessment, we do speech 52 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: discrimination and someone has got a speech discrimination. 53 00:02:59,120 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: A hearing law. 54 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 3: High frequency hearing loss fan when when someone say fan, 55 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 3: they hear us bam. 56 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: Yeah right, so different different words. 57 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 3: I'm missing that the haiyh frequency sounds and distortion happens. 58 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: Okay, thug become FuG Yeah so do sound yeah? 59 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: Right? So Solomon, when I mean when you look at 60 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: hearing loss like I know, you know, I know for 61 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: myself right with you know talking about glasses that I 62 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: noticed once I hit my forties that you do feel 63 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: as though your eyes have a bit of a change, 64 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: and you do you struggle a little bit more to 65 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: read things that you may not have struggled with previously. 66 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: What's it like hearing wise? Do we get to a 67 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: certain age where we do suffer from a bit of 68 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: hearing loss or can that happen at any time? 69 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: Depending upon one type of industry, we are yeah, okay 70 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 3: because different personally. I see a lot of DV clients 71 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: and they are bombarded with a very. 72 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: High noise level. 73 00:03:55,440 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 3: Okay, fire arms and KK for this someone, and tanks. 74 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: They are very noisy. Yeah, as you know, okaitie. 75 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 3: According to National Acoustic Laboratories that is a research organization 76 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: in Australia fully funded by Government of Australia, any sound 77 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 3: above eighty five discabel is dangerous to our hearing right. 78 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: Imagine when you download a sound level meter up it 79 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 3: can only go up to ninety disabel. Expensive proper quality 80 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 3: sound level meta will cost around twenty thousand dollars and 81 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 3: none of us can afford it. But we are constantly 82 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: look at every young generation, they are constantly bombarding their 83 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 3: ears with very loud podcasts and music. 84 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: Well and always have sort of you know, AirPods or 85 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: different types of headphones on as well. Whereas probably back 86 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: when I was a kid, you know, you couldn't get 87 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: ones that were that high quality that you could listen 88 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: to them that loud. I mean, you might still be 89 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: listening to music, but maybe not to the same level. 90 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 91 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 3: That is why there is many smartphone has got a 92 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 3: danger level so they will tell okay, this is dangerous. 93 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: But do our teenagers paying attention to that. 94 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: Probably not. 95 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 2: They don't think about tomorrow. They won't to enjoy. 96 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: The process on when you look at the different you know, 97 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: when you look at the different issues, or the different 98 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: hearing laws or hearing you know, or ear infections and 99 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: things that you deal with here in the Northern Territory. 100 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: What are some of the things that you they you say. 101 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, ear infections, especially in the community. We have a 102 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: lot of ear infections. And the social determiner, as we say, 103 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 3: the factors are mainly overcrowding and hygiene fact or all 104 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 3: those factors contributing. But a lot of children maybe one 105 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: year old to six year old, they have they are 106 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 3: prone to ear infections. That is because their eastation tube, 107 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 3: the tube that is connecting to the back of the 108 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: throat from the middle part of the ear, that is 109 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 3: horizontal for us when we are adult. They reach around 110 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 3: twenty years old, that become inclined incline shape. The when 111 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 3: it is inclined, the aeration is much easier. So a 112 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 3: lot of children having a couple of incidents of ear 113 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 3: infections in their life and when they have blockage in 114 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 3: the middle part of the year. They need to come 115 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 3: and see an adieologist. We can do a timpanometery test, 116 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: that a middle aar function test. That's an objective test, 117 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 3: and straight away we can say that okay, you have 118 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 3: ear infection or you have station tube dysfunction. Sometimes they 119 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 3: have a negative pressure in the middle part of the 120 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 3: year too much. When we take off on a plane, 121 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 3: did you notice that small babies start to cry. 122 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 2: That is because they are the pressure difference. 123 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 3: The cabin pressure changes significantly compared to the middle air pressure. 124 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 3: And smart mothers will give breastfeed. Each time the milky 125 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: is in the mouth, the child will swallow and then 126 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 3: equalizes the pressure. So a lot of okay boys will 127 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: have boys and okay girls. Okay, children will have ear infections. 128 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: A couple of ear infections, So. 129 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: Don't delay it. 130 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 3: See an audiologist or go to a GP and do 131 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 3: the management and then it will come back. 132 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: That is only a temporary problem. But sudden as. 133 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 3: We know that, there is a condition called a sudden 134 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 3: sensory ural hearing laws that can happen to anyone. Tomorrow morning, 135 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 3: I can wake up with hearing claws in one ear 136 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 3: or body. 137 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: Kids, anybody anyone. 138 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 3: Okay, there is some Okay, wirel attack on the cole 139 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 3: Cockley is our hearing organ, and we have one week 140 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: window of opportunity to have strong sterid GP can prescribe, 141 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 3: or we can go to the emergency department of the 142 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: hospital the. 143 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: Near a steroid very quickly. 144 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: Otherwise it will become permanent. 145 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: So Solomon, what's your advice. I mean, anybody listening this 146 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: morning this, you know, if they if I have had 147 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: that sudden hearing loss, they need to get to an 148 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: audiologist or get to a GP immediately. 149 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 3: Really absolutely, the GP appointment. Sadly, sometimes they don't get 150 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: an appointment immediately, and audiologists also is a problem. Okay, 151 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 3: you may not get an appointment, but you can call 152 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 3: me because how you operate seven days and I can 153 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 3: give advice. Yes, sometimes people call me and then they 154 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 3: will direct them to the right place immediately and the 155 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 3: delay is the problem. 156 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, this is the thing, and I know you 157 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: are so passionate about you know about this and about 158 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: people's hearing and their ear health, and it is such 159 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: an important thing, particularly on a day like today when 160 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: it is World Hearing Day. I know that there are 161 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people that might be listening to the 162 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: show this morning that work in really quite noisy environments. 163 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: Are there different things that we can do to sort 164 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: of protect our ears and protect our hearing. 165 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely, because many even the differense establishment, they give 166 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 3: soft ear plug that is not good enough. They need 167 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 3: have noise cancelling headsets. And there is a problem when suppose, okay, 168 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 3: an air force personnel near the a fighter jet and 169 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 3: sometimes they need to communicate with the pilot. There is 170 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 3: something called red zone. Okay, one of my clients told 171 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 3: me there is something older red zone where the person 172 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 3: need to have double protection, double hearing protection. How can 173 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 3: a person communicate with a pilot with a double hearing protection. 174 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 3: It is impossible, So they have to take the headset out. Yes, 175 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 3: so they are okay. In an awkward situation day, okay. 176 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 3: So and other workplaces where constant background noises and stuff 177 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 3: like that, people need to make sure that they are 178 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: wearing a plug appropriate for that condition, the ambient noise 179 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 3: in that particular condition. Occupational Health and Safety clearly says that, okay, 180 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 3: the people who work in noisy workplaces should have your 181 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 3: plug appropriate for that condition. And a lot of territori 182 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 3: and fly on a small plane and I used to 183 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 3: fly since twenty sixteen twenty twenty two, constant flight. But 184 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 3: all people flying on a small plane should wear earplag 185 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 3: and preferably ear muff. 186 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: Yeah right, So you really do need to make sure 187 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: that you are protecting your ears and protecting your hearing ultimately, 188 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: because you know, once. 189 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: It's gone, do wan't come back. 190 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: That's right, Like that's the worry, that's the real worry. Well, Solomon, 191 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: I always appreciate you having a chat with us. I 192 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: know you are so passionate about what you do, and 193 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: I think that that is absolutely wonderful to see. So 194 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us in the studio 195 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: this morning, and no doubt we'll talk to you again soon. 196 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 3: Thank you Adam Skeddy for this wonderful opportunity. 197 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 2: Thank you