1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:06,279 Speaker 1: On today's show, Olivia Rogers Hard launches her new relationship 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: just six months after her shock marriage breakdown, Sophie Gwidland 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: denies romantic getaway, and Byron Bay Kaylor it's seen us 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: as run in with rude and undeserving brands, and Sophie 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: Cash's new romance leaked from be Real. Hello and welcome 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: to Outspoken. It's your dose of the hottest influencer and 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: pop culture news twice a week. I'm Sophie Torbert and 8 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: I have a hot take. 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: For you guys. 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know how film cameras have become all 11 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: the rage. We've seen Olivia Rodgers and her new boat, 12 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: Morgan Waterhouse, who we will be talking about later in 13 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: the episode using them. They have been a thing for 14 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: about a year now. However, I think that the old 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: school digital camera, you know, the pink nikon that we 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: used to use in the nightclubs back in the day, 17 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: I think that they are going to be bigger in 18 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: the next six months. We went to a wedding recently 19 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: and we were hanging out with a couple of the 20 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: bride's friends who were all in their mid twenties, and 21 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: one girl, she's the epitome of cool. She was using 22 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: this digital camera on the dance floor all night, and 23 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: I think that the advantage of it is one it 24 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: uses a flash, so it makes everyone looks so good 25 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: like it gets rid of any sort of floors you. 26 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,279 Speaker 2: May dislike about yourself. 27 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: It kind of blurs your face more than a new 28 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: cameras which show every single floor. What I have found 29 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: with a film camera is that the film is so 30 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 1: expensive one to buy and. 31 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: Two to print. 32 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: But with these you have control over looking at which 33 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: ones you want to pick. It's easier to just add 34 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: to your computer or your phone and upload. Do you 35 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: know it's disturbing that those cameras are now probably considered vintage, 36 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: and that's why people are bringing them. You think, where 37 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: is my camera? Because I've got so many of them 38 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: tucked away somewhere. 39 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 2: I've got to go to mum and Dad's house. 40 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: Yes, that's where they are. Yeah, of course, I mean 41 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: JB High Far. I'm sure all of those sort of 42 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: electronics stores they're trying to sell them at the moment. 43 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: But we don't want to buy a new one. 44 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: We'll just get an old one we've already paid for. 45 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: Probably Dad's train room. Right now. 46 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: Actually they're probably in all like the Vinnie's shops, but 47 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: all the gen Zeta rating them. I love how you're 48 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: having this light bulb moment that digital cameras are better 49 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: than film cameras, because that was like the natural progression, 50 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: like a film camera than a digital People are just 51 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: going to be going back to their phones all of 52 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: a sudden. Well, they'll be pulling out our old like 53 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: flip phones from back in the day. Now, those photos 54 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: were shit. That's why we were carrying the digital ca 55 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: So you imagine our kids in their twenties, they're like, 56 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm using an IFL and eleven to take photos at 57 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: the nightclub. I have another recommendation, and it's a bit 58 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: of a basic bitch one because I saw this all 59 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: over my TikTok feed. It's the Carmen's fruit straps. So 60 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: it's the healthier version of roll ups. And everyone was 61 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: buying roll ups because they were trying to do that 62 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: ice cream trick where it goes crunchy, but it never 63 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: does because the Australian roll ups don't have as much 64 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: sugar as the American ones. These roll ups are made 65 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: from one hundred percent real fruit. 66 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 2: Are you fucking being paid for this. No, I genuinely 67 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 2: like them. I took yesterday. 68 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: I was like, you need to buy this, Yeah, because 69 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: Kate's like, oh, these are so good feed and I 70 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: was like, how can they be good for you? They 71 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 1: look so like they're obviously processed, but on the back 72 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: it actually says it's all, well, I think you've got 73 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: to do the ice cream hack with it. No, it's 74 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: a worthy. It won't work because it doesn't have I 75 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: just said it doesn't have enough sugar in it. 76 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got natural sugar in it. But they are 77 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: actually delicious. 78 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: They're a good snack, but they're not like a real 79 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: roll up, Like if you're thinking, oh, it's going to 80 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: be a real roll up, No, it's completely I really 81 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: want to. 82 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: Do the roll up pack. 83 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: Then, because I saw Courtney Mangnan try it out, I 84 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: saw a couple of other influences, and it was pretty 85 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: hit and miss who could actually get it to work. 86 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty brave of some of them 87 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: to post it because it looked so awkward trying to 88 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: bite it off because it was so chilly. We're just 89 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 1: driving in the main street, barren and all these cocktoons 90 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: just flew. 91 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: Past and Morgan said shut your windows. I was like, no, 92 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: it's fine. 93 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: A bird hat on my leg in the car through 94 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: the window. 95 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:53,119 Speaker 2: What so. 96 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: Olivia Rodgers has hard launched her new boyfriend Morgan Waterhouse, 97 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: six months after her shock marriage breakdown. The former Universe 98 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: Australia announced her split from husband Justin McKean in October 99 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, just seven months after they married. The 100 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: new couple were dropping clues on social media for weeks 101 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: before making it Instagram official. Kate, can you tell us 102 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: about this exciting hard launch? Yeah? So. On Monday, Olivia 103 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: shared a collection of photos of her and Morgan with 104 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: the caption happy Girl, and she tagged Morgan in the 105 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: photos and included pictures of the couple staying together at 106 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,119 Speaker 1: Jacaloop Hotel, as well as out to dinner, washing the car, 107 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: and a video of them running together. 108 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: Now. 109 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: Following the hard launch, Morgan shared Olivia's post on his story. 110 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: He also commented under Olivia's post with a hearthands and 111 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: affinity emoji. 112 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 2: Now. 113 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: Three days later, he shared his own grid post with 114 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: the caption of a rose. His photos included romantic photos 115 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: of him and Olivia, also him in a bubble Bath, 116 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: which suggested they had shared a bubble bath and Olivia 117 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: drinking wine as well as them out partying together. 118 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: Now. 119 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: Late last month, we discussed how Influence updates au was 120 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: the first to spark speculation when the account shared that 121 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: Olivia and Morgan had seemingly posted the same picture of 122 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: the view from Olivia's apartment, which is always a bit 123 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: of a telltale sign. Now. The account also speculated that 124 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: Morgan took Olivia to a luxury hotel Jakaloup to celebrate 125 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: her birthday, which, according to Olivia's post, is correct. It 126 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: also appears the couple have been talking since December, with 127 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: Morgan liking every single one of Olivia's posts on Instagram 128 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: since Christmas last year, and you remember that's when the 129 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: Olivia edit came out, that was on Boxing Day. Well, 130 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: someone also slid into our DM saying that they actually 131 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: live at the same apartment as Olivia and they have 132 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: seen Morgan in the lifts since December, so it's safe 133 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: to say that this relationship has actually been going for 134 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: a couple of months now. Yeah, and it's quite funny 135 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: because just two weeks ago the Herald son were claiming 136 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: that Olivia had hosed down speculation that the pair were together, 137 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: and at the time we were discussing how she didn't 138 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: confirm or deny it, and I think even commenting that 139 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: they were friends and that they were running together suggested 140 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: that there was more to it, a bit of a 141 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: theory about this hard launch and the timing around it, 142 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: because in February, Olivia Rodgers appeared on a number of 143 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: Australian podcasts and she spoke about the marriage breakdown, and 144 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: she spoke about how she really wanted to embrace single 145 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: life and how she had previously rushed into relationships in 146 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: saying that when she recorded those episodes, she was clearly 147 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: dating someone new. And I think the reason she wanted 148 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: to put out her side of events is because she 149 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: probably wanted to lay the blame on the relationship breakdown 150 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: on her ex husband, justin she didn't want anyone to 151 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: assume that perhaps she had cheated, because it is quite 152 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: quick to get into a new relationship and I don't 153 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: think there was any infidelity from her side all. 154 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 2: No, definitely not. 155 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: It is interesting the strategy that went into it, because 156 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: I feel like the person that first launches their new 157 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: relationship is often seen as the baddie and that they 158 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: must have. 159 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 2: Been the one that checked out earlier. 160 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: Well, if you think about it, if she hadn't come 161 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: out there and spoken about the marriage breakdown and kind 162 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: of said that it was Justin's fault, everyone would assume 163 00:06:58,440 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: that maybe it was her decision. 164 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: She had moved on super quickly. 165 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: It's pretty clever, pr wise, isn't it, to get that 166 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: story to sort of set the narrative before this big launch. 167 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 2: Well, also the fact that she. 168 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: Was the face of dating app Bumble back in February. 169 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: She probably didn't want to say, Hey, I'm actually dating 170 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: someone because it's relatable that she's single. I also think 171 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: it's quite interesting that she told the Herald Son that 172 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: she met Morgan through Paul Fsachi. I wonder if she 173 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: legitimately met him through him or whether she might have 174 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: been on the dating app Raya, because she did seem 175 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: to be going out on a few dates as she 176 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: mentioned in the podcast. But also a bad look if 177 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: you are the face of Bumble. Yeah. I have a 178 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: bit of an unpopular opinion because I'm very happy that 179 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: Olivia is happy, and it is great to see her 180 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: with a new guy who looks to be treating her 181 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: very nicely in this honeymoon stage for their relationship. However, 182 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: I was slightly disappointed from the perspective that her publicly 183 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: moving on so quickly really perpetuates that idea that straight 184 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: women need a man to be happy. Like even the 185 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: caption read happy girl, and I know it's probably not 186 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: her intention, but reading that you could read, oh, you 187 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: can't be happy if you're alone. See I look at 188 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: it differently and go she gives hope to other people 189 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: who have come out of marriages or long term relationships, 190 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: and it goes, oh, well, you can meet somebody else 191 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: that suits you better. But I just think it's kind 192 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: of a bit of a perplexing situation because she was 193 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: doing ten months of fertility treatment. She's just got out 194 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: of a four and a half year relationship, yes, only 195 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: seven months of marriage, but she wasn't a long term 196 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: relationship with this guy. From listening to the podcast, she 197 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: made it sound quite toxic, and she did say that 198 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: she's got this bad habit of moving on too quickly 199 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: and rushing into relationships with someone that's convenient rather than 200 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: the best person. And I really hope that this isn't 201 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: the case. But she would have so much baggage to 202 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: deal with, and I almost think it gives women who 203 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: are going through divorce sort of an unrealistic expectation of 204 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: how moving like, how to move on it. It almost 205 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: looks too good to be true. But isn't Morgan Waterhouse 206 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: just the perfect rebound? Well, that's what it is. Yeah, 207 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: that's what concerns me. He looks like a rebound. He's 208 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: this hot model who seems to be out part all 209 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: the time. And what worries me is when you're putting 210 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: this person out to the public, there's then a lot 211 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: of pressure on that relationship to work, and then there's 212 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: a lot of questions when perhaps that person may disappear 213 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: in six months time. That's what I mean, Like, why 214 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: go public now? I think it's only been six months 215 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: since she announced her breakup. Why not just keep her 216 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: under wraps, particularly because she said a reason why she 217 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: felt pressured into marrying this person that she wasn't sure 218 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: about was all the public scrutiny around her wedding and 219 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: around her relationship. Well, I bet tourism New South Wales 220 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: are loving it because there are so many eyeballs right 221 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: now on Olivia's content and she did hard launch Morgan 222 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: the day before they went on holiday to Byron Bay 223 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: as part of a campaign with Tourism New South Wales. 224 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: Their campaign manager must be thrilled, I know. I do 225 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: wonder again if it's a part of a strategy, thinking okay, well, 226 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: maybe did she talk to Tourism New South Wales and say, oh, actually, 227 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: this is going to work perfectly with my time. I 228 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: think it's more because she just wanted to take him 229 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: on the trip, and there would have been so much 230 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: speculation who is she on the trip with. 231 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: I mean there was. 232 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: Already a lot of people, you know, screenshotting his Instagram 233 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: stories and hers and comparing them together. And Morgan does 234 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: a lot of photography and videography stuff, so I feel 235 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: like he will be taking all the photos of hers. 236 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: As he said, it's just too obvious for her not 237 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: to mention it. In defense of Olivia, the fact that 238 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: she is in her thirties, she is obviously looking for 239 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: something serious, someone to settle down with. Maybe she just 240 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: has met her person and it's all clicked into gear. Well, 241 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: I do really hope so. And as more details emerge 242 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: about Morgan, they seem like a pretty good match. So 243 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: He moved to Melbourne from Coff's Harbor in twenty fifteen 244 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: to pursue modeling pretty similar to Olivia's story, and The 245 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: Advertiser reported that he was diagnosed with a potentially fatal 246 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: brain condition, which was basically this build up of fluid 247 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: on the brain, and he underwent surgery on his brain 248 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: back in June twenty twenty one and wrote on his 249 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: Insta story it's been a wild ride twenty seven years. 250 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: If shit does hit the fan, met some absolute legends 251 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: and seen some parts of the world. Don't take anything 252 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: for granted and literally live every day as much. 253 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: As you can. 254 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: Call your family and tell them you love them. Hopefully 255 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: see everyone soon now. Following the surgery, he spent fourteen 256 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: days in hospital and returned home with twenty four staples 257 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: in his head. He posted on Instagram following his surgery, 258 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: I'll be forever thankful for this second chance. So he's 259 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: gone through some pretty serious things in his life. Perhaps 260 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: he can now relate to what Olivia's gone through in 261 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: her thirties. Obviously two different scenarios, but he must be 262 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: pretty mature for his age. Yeah, I've as he said, Sophie, 263 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: I think that a lot of the time, when people 264 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: get out of a serious relationship, they often then meet 265 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: their perfect match not long after because they're ready to commit. 266 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 2: They know what they want. 267 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: They've had a shit relationship, and they know exactly what 268 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: they want out of the next one. Look, I really 269 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: hope that's the case. I just feel a bit protective 270 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: of Olivia after seeing everything that she's gone through in 271 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: the last six months, and I'm hoping that she hasn't 272 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: made a mistake by going to public with this relationship 273 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: so soon. She seems to be living that of hot 274 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: new relationship thing. I mean the fact that they're out 275 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: to dinners every night and. 276 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 2: On these beautiful holidays. 277 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: I feel like she's in that really fun stage of 278 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: the relationship where I'm sure she's enjoying it. 279 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 2: It's the honeymoon. 280 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: Stage there would it would be very difficult to hide 281 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: a relationship when you do have a large following like 282 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: she really you just don't post about it, like, yes, people, 283 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: probably we've got the brand if you're on hortiday, if 284 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: you're paid to go on a holiday, yep. But she 285 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: didn't have to take him. She could have taken Paul Fasaci. 286 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: Do you think We're gonna see Justin come out and 287 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: do some podcast interviews or perhaps Justin's edit of the 288 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: wedding video. 289 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: Well, he's stay. 290 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: Pretty quiet on his Instagram story. He hasn't bought into 291 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 1: any of it yet. Now I did wonder Morgan Waterhouse 292 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: could be called a micro influencer. He's got around thirty 293 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: thousand followers, and ever since Olivia tagged him, his follow 294 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,479 Speaker 1: count has been going up. He gained one thousand followers 295 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: over the last couple of days since being on Olivia's story. 296 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure that number is only going to climb. I 297 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: saw one of his friends commented under their hard launch 298 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: saying Roger House has quite a ring to it. 299 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 2: So there's already a new couple named I like that now. 300 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: On the topic of new relationships flourishing in Byron Bay, 301 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: Sophie Gwidlan has been forced to deny rumors of a 302 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: new romance. So Sophie was spotted in Byron Bay with 303 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: business coach and male model Michael Kettle, just weeks after 304 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: confirming her breakup with her husband after four months of marriage. 305 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: How did this all come about? Well, it all started 306 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: with an Instagram story, So Sophie's rumored bo Michael Kettle 307 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: shared a photo of Sophie. 308 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 2: At Byron Bay Beach. Now. 309 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: In the photo, Sophie has her back to the camera 310 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: and is walking towards the shore. Michael captured the photo 311 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: Byron You were Amazing. Sophie later confirmed she was in 312 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: Byron by uploading her own video of her completing an 313 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: ice bath at a wellness club in Byron. In the 314 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: background of the photo, you can see a male's reflection 315 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: taking the photo, which people are assuming is Michael. Now. 316 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: Sophie hosed down speculations, though, telling the Daily Mail He's 317 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: not my boyfriend. He is a long term friend from Adelaide. Look, 318 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: that might be the case, but what is Michael doing 319 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: sharing an Instagram story of her? It seems like he's 320 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: trying to gain attention by doing so. 321 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: Oh definitely. 322 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: Do you think it's interesting the different reactions these two 323 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: sort of rumored new relationships have had online because a 324 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: lot of people are so happy for Olivia Rodgers. But 325 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: then other people have gone, well, what Sophie doing with 326 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: this new guy after her marriage and very different situations. 327 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: I know they were both short marriages, but Sophie's relationship 328 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: with doctor Andrew was a lot shorter than Olivia's was 329 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: with Justin in terms of how long they were together. 330 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 2: It was a very well winned romance. 331 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: And also Sophie sadly had a still birth, so I 332 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: think people are just judging her as a mother and thinking, oh, 333 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: why is she. 334 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: Moving on and not being sad in front of people. 335 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: Are also seeing this as a reoccurring thing because she 336 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: does appear to jump from relationship to relationship. I do 337 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: find it funny because none of these so called friends 338 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: are ever not buff ripped. Well yeah, I mean, who 339 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: goes on holiday after marriage breakdown with just some ripped 340 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: model guy from Adelaide? Yeah, you knew previously, and doctor 341 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: Andrew was a long term friend, So who knows what 342 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: can be sparked from those long term friendships with Sophie? 343 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 3: But why wouldn't I want to spend my lunch break 344 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: on my really busy day going to some shit two 345 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 3: dollars shop to get ship Easter things. It's glue for 346 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 3: my Tuesday night, gluing them to this hat that my 347 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,239 Speaker 3: children are not going to appreciate. 348 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: They're going to wear it. 349 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 3: For five minutes in a parade and they're going to 350 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 3: throw in the bin or probably leave out school. 351 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: Sophie Kesia's blossoming new relationship has been leaked by an 352 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: anonymous gossip page, So what's happened? Well? The super sluth account, 353 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: which goes by the name influencer t Oz, said it 354 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: was inundated with screenshots of Sophie and AFLW player Sophie 355 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: vander Heebelt spending time together. The screenshots were obtained from 356 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: Sophie vander Heebelt's be real account, So, for those who 357 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: aren't across it, be Real is a relative new social 358 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: media app that's all about authenticity. So it allows you 359 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: to post one photo a day to your followers and 360 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: it's about what you're doing in real time, so you'll 361 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: get a random notification saying you must take a photo now. 362 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: And the photo in question that was shared shows the 363 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: two Sophie's kissing in bed. So Sophie Keisha is wearing 364 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: her signature Kasha pajamas and she takes up most of 365 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: the photo so you can only see the other Sophie's 366 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: cheek now. Influencer Tea Oz said they received multiple dms 367 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: showing the couple hanging out on several other occasions, so 368 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: it does seem to be something that has been going 369 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: on for quite some time now. I didn't realize that 370 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: be Real was a public social media science will it's 371 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: for friends, so one of her friends is obviously leaked 372 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: at that. Yes. Yeah, and you might remember Sophie Vanderhovel's 373 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: name popping up a couple of months back because the 374 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: two Sophie's were spotted in January at the controversial Sam 375 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: Smith NATC concert and they were basically spotted making out 376 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: in the mosh pit, and followers have pointed out there 377 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: is an uncanny resemblance between the Essendon player and Sophie's ex, 378 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: Maddie Garrick. As well as both parties being professional athletes, 379 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: they're both tall, blonde and have a very similar facial structure, 380 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: so it's quite clear that Sophie has a type. Yeah 381 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: influence a tea I was pointed out the similarity, saying 382 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: her new love interest is the spitting image of her 383 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: ex Maddie. I guess she hasn't been wrong the thousand 384 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: times she's told her audience she has a type. I 385 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: was a little bit surprised to see that this relationship 386 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: seems to be blossoming because Sophie seemed quite grumpy in 387 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: the lead up to Easter. Her kids were off with Jared, 388 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: her ex husband, and she was playing the I'm at 389 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: home alone game and trying to make people feel a. 390 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: Bit sorry for her. 391 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: I have to throw to a grab of what she 392 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: said because I couldn't believe how much she was complaining 393 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: about those Easter bonets. Yeah, so she was at home 394 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: on a Wednesday Thursday night making Easter bonnets for her kids, 395 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: who couldn't be fucked to help. I feel like a 396 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: lot of parents could probably relate to it, but it 397 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: was quite unbelievable. 398 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 2: Let's throw to the clip. 399 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 3: We are making Easter bonnets for the parade, and by we, 400 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 3: I mean myself, because why would my children help me 401 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 3: make their stupid Easter hats? Why would my children tell 402 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 3: me that they don't want to do it? So why 403 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 3: would I sit here and cut out all their pictures 404 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 3: that they want to put on their Easter hat that 405 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 3: have nothing. 406 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 2: To do with Easter? Mind you? 407 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 3: Because what else would I rather be doing on Tuesday 408 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 3: night than making two Easter hats? Thank you, my dulling children. 409 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 3: I just love you so much. 410 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: She said that this clip was actually one of her 411 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: most viewed Instagram stories, so it obviously did strike a 412 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: chord with other parents who were over having to. 413 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 2: Do this sort of shit. 414 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: I do feel like she was playing it up a 415 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: little bit, but I could tell deep down that she 416 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: was grumpy about something else. See. I would rather see 417 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: this sort of content from Sophie. I thought it was 418 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: quite funny. It was pretty entertaining now. Sophie's new relationship 419 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: comes six months after she called her for engagement to 420 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,959 Speaker 1: Maddie Garrett amid rumors of Mattie cheating whilst playing basketball 421 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: in Italy. It also comes after Maddie appeared to soft 422 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: launch a new relationship with fellow WNBA player Matia and 423 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: to Sofa. In an Instagram post, Mattie shared a photo 424 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: of her helding hands with Mattia during a trip to 425 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: the Vatican City. It is widely speculated that Mattie did 426 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: start this relationship with Mattia when she was still with Sophie, 427 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 1: but this hasn't been confirmed. It's just a rumor, and 428 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: Sophie did, of course react to Mattie's post with a 429 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: cryptic saying she wrote, you disrespect yourself when you rekindle 430 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,719 Speaker 1: a relationship that humiliated you. Now, there have been a 431 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: lot of theories as to why Sophie hasn't confirmed or 432 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: denied this relationship because she is yet to comment on it, 433 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: and many people believe that she is keeping the relationship 434 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: under wrap so that she can time it with the 435 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: launch of her new book, Then There Was You. So 436 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: her other book last year was called Then There Was Her. 437 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 1: So this new book is set to hit shelves in June, 438 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: so she might be biding her time to capitalize on 439 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: this reveal because we know that new relationships generate mass engagement. 440 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: I mean we were just talking about before maybe keeping 441 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 1: a relationship on the down low after being burnt by 442 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: being so public, So maybe she is doing that as well. Yeah, 443 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: that is a very good point, particularly because she is 444 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: dating a twenty two year old and sometimes when you're 445 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: dating someone younger, those relationships might. 446 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 2: Not move in the mature way that you want them 447 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: to move in and it might just be a rebound. 448 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, today we are making scones. 449 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 2: Now, I know what you think. You see me and 450 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 2: you're like, oh, she's going to. 451 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: Make like a flowerless, gluten free healthy nah fitness mogul 452 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: Kayla Estinez has revealed she deliberately doesn't tag clothing brand 453 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: she wears, and she doesn't want to give some rude 454 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: brands publicity that don't deserve it. I love that Kayla's 455 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: calling some of these people. Oh, it's so refreshing. I 456 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: love hearing her opinion on these sorts of things. So, 457 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: in a now deleted Instagram story, Kayla posted an outfit 458 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: mirror selfie where she was wearing ring, a white sports 459 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 1: bra and matching tracksuit pants, and she said that she 460 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: received an influx of questions about her outfit. So she 461 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: responded saying, so many questions about this outfit. The top 462 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: is from White Fox, the bottoms are my sister and 463 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: brother in law's brand samples that I stole from their warehouse, 464 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: so they don't exist haha. She then continued saying she 465 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: is in two minds about telling people what she's wearing. 466 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: She continued, writing, some brands I wear I find out 467 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,959 Speaker 1: after are so rude and don't deserve the recognition purely 468 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: on how they treat others. Some are so amazing and kind, 469 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: and I wish I could tell everyone about them every 470 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: day now. The tea from Kayla continued in another Instagram story. 471 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: She wrote also on the flip side, I have three 472 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: brands I love and it annoys me so much because 473 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: they are so rude to me and everyone low. So 474 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: then I think, no, I'm not telling you what I'm 475 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: wearing because these people don't deserve it, She continued, saying 476 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: she can't name them because we all know it's not 477 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: the bread and most likely just some mad person who 478 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: hasn't had their morning coffee yet on their social media 479 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: or a PR team ruining it for everyone else. It 480 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: really shocks me that a PR manager would be rude 481 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: to someone like Kayla Estinas, who has such a large 482 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: following and is so influential. Normally PR teams would be 483 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: kissing that person's ass. She should actually email the owner 484 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: and let them know, hey, your PR team is not 485 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: up to scratch because they're essentially losing out on so 486 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: much free publicity. Imagine if she was just talking about 487 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: her favorite brands. But even from a branding perspective, they 488 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: should be nice to every customer or potential customer her 489 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: emails them, and especially someone like kayla' Stetez who's got 490 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: millions of followers. Well, Kayla has spoken out publicly about 491 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: her decision not to collaborate with brands early on in 492 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: her career because she felt that it cheapened her own 493 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: brand and she was concerned that those brands might reflect 494 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: negatively on the brand that she was building. 495 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: So I do wonder. 496 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: If these pr people have got pissed off because maybe 497 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 1: they are trying to organize a contra deal with her 498 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: and they say you have to share about it, and 499 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: she's pushing back saying no, I'm not going to share 500 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: about it just in exchange for clothes. Like maybe there's 501 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: a frustration there, but I mean, they shouldn't be expecting 502 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: that they should not just give her the clothes and 503 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: she'll probably give them a shout out if she feels 504 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 1: I mean, even just being photographed on her story with 505 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: the brand on is enough for those brands. Well, that's 506 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: what I was going to say, because if anything, they 507 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: should be happy about her posting it just authentically, because 508 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: I think that's when people take on board what people 509 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: are wearing more because it looks like it's not just 510 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: something that's sponsored. 511 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 512 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: Well, Kayla did end up doing her first collaboration last 513 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: year with active wear brand pe Nation, after wearing the 514 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: brand for ten years so you can see that she 515 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 1: is pretty loyal to brands. Kayla did actually make the 516 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: point in her Instagram story that if she specifies which 517 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: brand she wears, her audience will then align that brand 518 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: with her, and if the brand then does do anything 519 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: off brand or they're rude to customers, she doesn't want 520 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: that then reflecting on her. She's really clever about the 521 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: marketing side of things and being kind of reflective on. 522 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 2: How that affects her brand. 523 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: I am someone who does look at Kayla's post and 524 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, I love her track pants and I try 525 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: and find out where she got stuff like that from. 526 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: Are either one messaging I have a message here about it, 527 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: but I really do like her style for active. 528 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 2: I did like our influencer updates. 529 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: AAU put out a story asking people to guess which 530 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: brands Kayla was referring to, So some of the guesses 531 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: included zep, Saski, Baseline, and Nike. It's interesting that three 532 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: of those are influencer brands. I don't think that she 533 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: is talking about an influencers brand. I think that she 534 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: might be talking about a global brand. Perhaps this global 535 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: brand has a large PR team and they're not quite 536 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: aware of who she is. For instance, if it was 537 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: an American brand. I know Kayla is royalty here in Australia, 538 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: but maybe she doesn't generate the same response in America 539 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: footcamps there. She's huge internationally. I actually think it would 540 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: probably be more likely some small influencer brand. Yeah, they 541 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: probably don't have that many staff members and they're stressed 542 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 1: and rushing around. Probably got some like eighteen year olds 543 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: who idolize the influencers. I really do hope that Kayla 544 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: comes out and tells us more about this experience, because 545 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: I'm really liking the fact that she's sharing more of 546 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: her opinion. She's giving us a more behind the scenes 547 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: look at her life. And it's funny because I did 548 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: see on influencer Updates they said, do we like how 549 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 1: Kayla is now sharing stuff? Do you find her relatable 550 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: or do you like the fact that she kind of 551 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: lives this lifestyle that is quite luxurious. And people were 552 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: saying that they love seeing Jay splash all of their 553 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: holidays all over Instagram because it's that aspirational content that, 554 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: whilst it's not something that you could achieve, it's really 555 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: fun to watch. Yeah, but Kayla keeps it real by 556 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: sharing her at her grandparents house all the time. And 557 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 1: I think that she seems clearly like a very family 558 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: orientated person. I just get the real Adelaide vibe of her, 559 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: just a small town person that happens to have a 560 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: lot of money. I don't think she's going to say 561 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: anything more about these clothing brands, sidering she deleted the post. 562 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: Can you imagine the people that have dealt with her? 563 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 2: The PR teams are probably sweaty. 564 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: Oh, they're just like sending a box full of more clothes. 565 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: Were like, sorry, well, I think that is all we 566 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: have time for today. 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