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Speaker 1: Jam mission with Jones and Amanda, Prince.

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Speaker 2: Harry speaking openly about the Royal Family. Does it pass

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Speaker 2: the pub teams?

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Speaker 1: He's done it again. He's gone on a podcast hosted

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Speaker 1: by Dax Shephard, an American actor, and they're talking about

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Speaker 1: mental health issues. But he has said he's wanted to

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Speaker 1: leave the Royal family since he was in his twenties.

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Speaker 1: He's described the Royal life as a mixture between The

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Speaker 1: Truman Show and being in a zoo. He said his

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Speaker 1: parenting has been appalling, the way he was parented by Charles,

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Speaker 1: who in turn was parented terribly by Prince Philip and

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Speaker 1: the Queen. He's just thrown everyone under the bus again.

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Speaker 1: You know, let's hear a little bit of what he said.

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Speaker 3: I've experienced some form of penal suffering because of the

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Speaker 3: penal suffering that perhaps my father or my parents had suffered.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to make sure that I break that cycle

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Speaker 3: so I don't pass it on.

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Speaker 1: The way I see this. When he and Megan got married,

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Speaker 1: I was a big fan. I thought they are going

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Speaker 1: to change the Royal Family from the inside. They're going

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Speaker 1: to do good works. They're going to be social humanitarians

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Speaker 1: and thoughtful people. There's two streams to the royal family.

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Speaker 1: They are an actual family and they are a public family.

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Speaker 1: And the way I feel, if you want to air

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Speaker 1: this stuff, the Oprah stuff, all of this air that

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Speaker 1: privately to your private family. But this family impacts a nation.

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Speaker 2: They have a.

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Speaker 1: They are a public institution and a very important one

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Speaker 1: in England and remains of the Commonwealth. I don't think

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Speaker 1: this stuff should be aired publicly. I know his pro

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Speaker 1: mental health and all of that, that stuff can be

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Speaker 1: said in a different way without throwing his family and

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Speaker 1: the institution under the bus.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I think he's right to speak out

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Speaker 2: about it. You know, his mother was more or less

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Speaker 2: killed by the British Press. He had to live through that,

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Speaker 2: He had to live through his every part of his

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Speaker 2: life being intruded on. I think he just wants to

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Speaker 2: have his voice away from the palace.

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Speaker 1: But does he want his voice? He says he's moved

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Speaker 1: away from that because he wants to be public, a

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Speaker 1: private citizen doing his charity.

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Speaker 2: Will But but then people always sit there. There will

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Speaker 2: be times and he'll have to live with it forever.

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Speaker 2: And what he's trying to do is defend himself that

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Speaker 2: explain his actions.

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Speaker 1: Is he going to do this all the time. Is

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Speaker 1: he constantly going to have to defend himself. He did

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Speaker 1: the Oprah Winfrey interview, He's now done this interview. Will

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Speaker 1: he constantly be saying I lived in a zoo. My

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Speaker 1: family are hostages, meaning my brother and my father are

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Speaker 1: hostages to institution. That's very important to a lot of

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Speaker 1: people in England. I just think that if it's a

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Speaker 1: mental health grievance, if it's a parenting story, if it's

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Speaker 1: how you grew up, deal with that privately with your

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Speaker 1: actual family and not the institution.

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Speaker 2: He'll always be known as the guy that left the

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Speaker 2: royal family and to women of a certain age, yourself,

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Speaker 2: my wife, who were drip fed on women's magazines about

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Speaker 2: the royal family for years. This is a big deal

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Speaker 2: to you guys, But for me, I don't care. I

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Speaker 2: think it's just a guy that's defending himself.

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Speaker 1: Will he have to defend himself constantly? Can he defend

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Speaker 1: himself without throwing them all under the bus. It didn't

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Speaker 1: occur to me how much I and I'm a Republican

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Speaker 1: for Australia, but I see their worth for Britain and

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Speaker 1: I feel for them. Jonesy and Amanda's nation