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Speaker 1: This is gem Nation with.

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Speaker 2: Let's get on down to the jonesy demand of arms

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Speaker 2: for the pub test.

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Speaker 1: Kids in the bed? Does it pass the pub test?

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Speaker 3: Reading this morning about a woman who says she feels guilty.

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Speaker 3: She shares a bed with her children to guarantee a

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Speaker 3: decent night's sleep. The husband sleeps on the floor. If

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Speaker 3: they have relations, it's in the loop. She said, this

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Speaker 3: is just how it goes. It's just too hard.

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Speaker 2: Mum and dad and daddy.

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Speaker 3: She says that she has a six month old baby.

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Speaker 3: She has toddlers as well. It's just it's just too hard.

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Speaker 3: If you're exhausted, you're a young parent, don't do it.

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Speaker 1: Don't do it. Don't do it.

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Speaker 3: I would see cheers.

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Speaker 1: We had six years of no sleep.

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Speaker 3: And I see why, because easier to just let them

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Speaker 3: come into your bed and everyone goes back to sleep.

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Speaker 3: But at some point you're going to have to pull

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Speaker 3: the band aid, and it's going to be hard for me.

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Speaker 3: I chose to do that very early on. I know

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Speaker 3: it's not for everyone. I did the controlled crying thing.

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Speaker 3: I cried for ages because I knew that that's that

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Speaker 3: would work for me. I then could if I could

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Speaker 3: come back to breakfast radio without having children in the bed,

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Speaker 3: and I didn't sleep and all of that stuff. And

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Speaker 3: my kids have always loved their beds. They've been great sleepers.

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Speaker 3: I know that's not the way for everybody, but at

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Speaker 3: some point you have to go the.

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Speaker 2: Hard yards kids in the bed. Does it pass the

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Speaker 2: pub test?

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Speaker 1: Not really, but I have it every night. I have

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Speaker 1: it from two o'clock and I've had it before years,

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Speaker 1: So it's really hard to sleep. I'm so fried in

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Speaker 1: the morning. But to make everyone happy in the house,

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Speaker 1: we just deliver.

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Speaker 4: No, but I have to have my youngest daughter, we

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Speaker 4: have gone to two bedrooms because she's an absolute nightmare.

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Speaker 2: Definitely not as babies, but once they can walk out

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Speaker 2: of their bedrooms and come sneaking in and say they've

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Speaker 2: had a bad dream or and they just slide in.

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Speaker 2: My husband just knew that as soon as that little

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Speaker 2: body touched the bed, he'd just slide straight out the

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Speaker 2: other side and go into her bed.

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Speaker 1: No, I agree with Amanda.

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Speaker 2: With my kids, we've never had that, and they always

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Speaker 2: sleep well.

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Speaker 1: They're used to that routine. I believe that the bed

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Speaker 1: is for sleeping.

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Speaker 3: Reading, ormancy or romancing, isn't that what the cars for

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Speaker 3: us we learned earlier during a police chase.

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Speaker 4: Indeed, thank you for all your cause.