1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 1: Podcasting now. 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 2: I do want to talk about the whole COVID nineteen thing. 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 2: I know we've pretty much dodged it today, which is amazing. 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 3: I was loving it. Yeah, yeah, I can't wait right in. 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: I do. I'm just not very happy with and I 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: want to hear other people's thoughts on this thirty one 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 2: six five. If you're streaming as an iHeart radio, if 8 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: you in your cars right now, I'd love to get 9 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 2: your thoughts because I want to talk about some of 10 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: the abuse that's flying around towards people who aren't doing 11 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: what other people want them to do. Essentially, the reason 12 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: I'm bringing this up is Quantus announced today they're grounding 13 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 2: your entire international fleet. But there's a few cabin crew 14 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: workers who are still doing, like, you know, tiny amounts 15 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: of flights here and there. 16 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 3: And they're getting people home. That's the main reason. 17 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. And apparently, according to some airline workers, 18 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: they're getting turned away from restaurants, they're getting letters in 19 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: the mail saying abusing them for leaving their homes simply 20 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 2: for going to go and do their jobs. And the 21 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: reason I bring this up is because I was talking 22 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: to a friend of mine the other day who was 23 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 2: doing a road trip coming home from a road trip 24 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: in Queensland, had to get the car home. And he 25 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: was in Queensland and he got the tires slashed on 26 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: their wicked van. 27 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 3: Wow, yeah by locals or saying that the town he 28 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 3: was going to. 29 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, which, if you think about it, is a little 30 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 2: bit counterintuitive. If you're actually telling them to piss off 31 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 2: and then you slash their tires, it makes it. 32 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 3: I didn't think it through, did they not an intelligent? 33 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: Intelligent abuser? 34 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 2: But the reality is like that's wild, Yeah, like that's 35 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: really wild. And I got I went out for a 36 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 2: surf on the weekend. Wasn't peak hour at all going 37 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: out for a surf. The beaches are closed, yes, but 38 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: I was like a remote area, I'm not hanging out 39 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: with anyone and going straight in the ocean straight back out. 40 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 4: Again. 41 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 2: It was in Victoria as well, and that hasn't been 42 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: closed off. I'm walking out and a forty five year 43 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: old woman wound down her window and absolutely blasted me 44 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: drive by, abusing, well, yeah, drive by under my arm 45 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: and look, look I needed to get out there for 46 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: my own sense of sanity, whilst also completely obeying all 47 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: the rules that the government have put in place, and 48 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: I just really want to get some points of view 49 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: from people now in third ninus sixty five. If you 50 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: want to join the conversation, maybe you're someone who's copped 51 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: a bit of abuse recently, maybe you're someone who's actually 52 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: doled out a bit of abuse. I'd love to hear 53 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 2: from you, because I think it's a really interesting time 54 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 2: and I don't think that abusing anybody is a good idea, 55 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: but I realize that there is a need for really 56 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: strong language with other people right now to get the 57 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: message across. 58 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. I actually I agree with a conversation with someone 59 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 3: who thinks doing the wrong thing. Yeah, I think I 60 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 3: think abusing is never the right way to go because 61 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 3: you've got no idea of the situation. 62 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: Podcasting, Wow, we're currently talking about abusing people that are 63 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: abusing other people for not adhering to what they deem 64 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 2: to be the rules. Yes, And I think there's just 65 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: a really interesting tension here between flagrantly abusing the rules 66 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: and placing other people's health at risk and people who 67 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: are just looking to look after themselves physically and mentally 68 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: during a time of real duress in isolation. I used 69 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: the example and for a surf on the weekend. I 70 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 2: was still very much within the rules in Victoria, which 71 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: is I was nowhere near anybody. I was not mingling 72 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: on the beach. I was in, I was out, and 73 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 2: I wasn't hanging out with anybody outside the people that 74 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: I live with at all. Still got to drive by 75 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: abuse from a forty five year old woman who gave 76 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: me a real piece of her mind. Yeah, it was 77 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 2: a drive by sledge and book. But I can empathize 78 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: with the fact that she's going, hey, look, you know, 79 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: she doesn't know that I'm you know, trying to look 80 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: after myself, et cetera. But also she's worried about the 81 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: health of other people that she's around, et cetera. So 82 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: it's a really hard thing to navigate. And the reason 83 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: I brought it up was because air hostesses and air 84 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: hosts are getting abuse from people. They're getting letters in 85 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: their mail for going about their job, for going to 86 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 2: their job, and I just don't think that's fair. 87 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, because again they shed some more light on that 88 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: they're actually flying people home. That's the and planes are 89 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: still flying. They're trying to get everyone home so they 90 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: can isolate so people to be abusing them. 91 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: It's just wrong, and I just think it's the wrong attitude, 92 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: Like this is a marathon We've got to go through, guys, 93 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: and those sorts of social cracks that are popping up, 94 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: Like sure you can tell somebody off and have a 95 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: constructive chat with them, but you know, yelling at people 96 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 2: in the street and giving them hate mail. 97 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: Sucksh We've got Jess here on thirty one or sixty five. Jess, 98 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: what are your thoughts and all this? 99 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 2: Hi? 100 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 5: I yes, I was looking at your poll online and 101 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 5: it said seventy two percent of people actually said yes, 102 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 5: it was okay to abuse someone in this instance, and 103 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 5: I just thought, like, there are so many other better 104 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 5: ways to have that conversation with someone. Education is so 105 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 5: important during this time. 106 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's jes. 107 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 4: Yeah. 108 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, And the fact that someone would choose to abuse 109 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 5: someone over actually educating them about the importance of social 110 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 5: distancing is so alarming, especially when we're finally starting to 111 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 5: recognize the importance of looking after mental health, but people 112 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 5: are still thinking it's okay to abuse. 113 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's bang on, it's suggest but there is a 114 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 2: lot of tension there though, Jess, and I suppose like 115 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: you know, anger is every time just unprocessed fear, and 116 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: I realized that. I realized that people are very, very scared, 117 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 2: and more often that always expresses his anger, and that's 118 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: that's the nature of what I think people are. 119 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 3: On the other end, on I almost got angry at 120 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 3: a group of people. There were six people having a 121 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: picnic in the parker I go for a run, and 122 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: I actually my anger always came from like jealousy almost. 123 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 3: I was like, if you I'm I wish I was 124 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 3: doing that, and I don't even think I'm the sixth 125 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 3: of you. Yeah, I sitting there having drinks and I'm 126 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 3: scared of confrontation. So I said nothing to just ran past, 127 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 3: and internally really had to go on. 128 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: We've got Eugene here. That's a really good point, the 129 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: jealousy side of things. Massive, Eugene, welcome to the show. 130 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on this? Hey? 131 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:47,239 Speaker 1: Mate? 132 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 6: I think I think the woman was actually right to 133 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 6: abuse you, mate, honestly. 134 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: Okay, good, all right, all right, great, So Eugene, what 135 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: are your what your what are your thoughts on this? 136 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: And like the publicly abusing people? 137 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: All right, I'm not sure she should have publicly you see, 138 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: but you're a role model, you're on the radio, you 139 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: know about it, mate, and it's uh, it's up to 140 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: every one of us, the citizens of Australia, to follow 141 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: the recommendations. Mate. 142 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 2: Yet I couldn't agree more mate, And but but but 143 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: if I'm within the recommendations in doing what I'm doing, 144 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: what's what's what? How is it constructive for her to 145 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: then have a go at me? 146 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: Mate? I think this is a life and death situation 147 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: for lots of people. 148 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of fear. 149 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: It's obviously affected the whole world economy and put it. 150 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 6: To our country in a standstill, right yeah, I think 151 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 6: you know, you need to be proactive and even you 152 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 6: don't have to wait to be told not to do something, mate, 153 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 6: like you maybe within the rights and they don't have 154 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 6: to put our new clauses in the law and come 155 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 6: out Scott Morrison telling you you know. 156 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: This specific beach, but you should. 157 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 6: Be proactive and take it upon yourself as a role 158 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 6: model in society. 159 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 2: So I think, no, no, no, it's good. It's a 160 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 2: really good point. It's a really good point. I think 161 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 2: what I what I brought with for I don't know 162 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 2: if you heard with what I was saying with Woods before. 163 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: But I think there's a really there's a tension there 164 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: between people looking after themselves during this time as well. 165 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: Like I'm trying to stay mentally fit and healthy. That's 166 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 2: really important for my mind state while I'm at home, 167 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: to make sure that I'm exercising. If I do that 168 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: in isolation, I think that's that's going to outweigh It's 169 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: moral panic. I don't know if you if you exercise 170 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 2: it all for your mental health, but I think it's 171 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: the same. 172 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: Thing I've been exercising in the house. 173 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 2: Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. I didn't I didn't have that luxury. 174 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: I haven't got that luxury. And I felt I was 175 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: in a position where I really needed to get out 176 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: and do that because it was going to make me 177 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: feel a lot better. And I'm made sure I was 178 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: within the restrictions. And I just think a lot of 179 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: people are probably going to be in the same boat, 180 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: and I don't think it's helpful if they are doing 181 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: it within the limitations to have a crack at them. 182 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 2: That's my point of view, it's your point of view, you, Jene, 183 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: thanks very much for the call. I think he's gone yep. 184 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 3: God, Sammy here hopefully doesn't know when my houses because he 185 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 3: might come after you. We've got Sammy here, now, Sammy, 186 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 3: what are your no? No, We actually we appreciate you, 187 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 3: Gene coming on. 188 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: And that's the other side of the argument, is that 189 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: you need that sort of strong language for people to 190 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 2: get the point of view across. We're talking about that 191 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: tension right now, Sammy carry away. 192 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 4: Hello. I don't agree with you, Gene at all. I 193 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 4: think if your people should mind their own business. Seriously. 194 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 4: We all know what we have to do and what 195 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 4: we don't what we can't do. Some of us are 196 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 4: home with children, on our own, or with our partners without, 197 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 4: whatever the case may be. Some of us are doing 198 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 4: it easier than others. Some are doing it really tough. 199 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 4: For me, sitting on the beach or sitting in my 200 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 4: car at the beach is actually really good for my 201 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 4: mental health, and I'm sure it probably is for lots 202 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 4: of people's mental health. So you going for a surf, 203 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 4: I think you're totally okay, And people really should start 204 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 4: being quiet because this is really tough, and you know, 205 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 4: like they've just closed our local driving and which is 206 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 4: my other place where I would go out with mental health. Yeah, 207 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 4: so you know. So it's just, you know, people should 208 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 4: mind their own business and we really need to look 209 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 4: after each other. Our mental health is important. 210 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for the girl, Sammy. And I think 211 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: that that you kind of hit on. You know, whether 212 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 2: you agree with what Eugene was saying, which I'm sure 213 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: a lot of people wouldn't. I fully respect that, or 214 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 2: whether you agree with what I'm saying about being able 215 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: to get a bit of time out by yourself outside, 216 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: whether that's going for a surf, going for a jog 217 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 2: or whatever. I think if you're going to have a 218 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: chat with somebody, then you know, have a conversation with 219 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 2: them and talk to about it. I don't think yelling 220 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: at people at this early in the piece, or abusing 221 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: or sending hate mail to air hosts and air hostess 222 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 2: is the right way of going about it. But anyway, 223 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: job said Sammy. 224 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 3: I hope you're okay, Sammy. 225 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 2: Look after yourself. Guys. Whatever you're needle to see what 226 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 2: you're hearing, find us on Instagram and Facebook search Will 227 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: and Woody