1 00:00:09,685 --> 00:00:12,445 Speaker 1: iHeart podcasts. You can hear more Gold one I four 2 00:00:12,485 --> 00:00:15,965 Speaker 1: point three podcast playlist and listen live on the free 3 00:00:16,165 --> 00:00:17,005 Speaker 1: iHeart app. 4 00:00:18,165 --> 00:00:19,084 Speaker 2: Got anything good? 5 00:00:19,645 --> 00:00:26,885 Speaker 3: Hey, this is the Christian O'Connell show podcast. 6 00:00:27,885 --> 00:00:30,445 Speaker 1: Hey, good morning, This is the Christian O'Connell Show. Now, 7 00:00:30,485 --> 00:00:33,205 Speaker 1: today is a very important day. It is a national 8 00:00:33,325 --> 00:00:36,085 Speaker 1: day of Morning. Jun Next ten minutes, the Prime Minister's 9 00:00:36,085 --> 00:00:37,885 Speaker 1: going to be calling the show. Now, I know a 10 00:00:37,925 --> 00:00:40,004 Speaker 1: lot of you are new to the show and you're 11 00:00:40,005 --> 00:00:42,245 Speaker 1: trying to work out what there is show about. This 12 00:00:42,284 --> 00:00:43,925 Speaker 1: is not a show where we're going to have politicians 13 00:00:43,925 --> 00:00:47,004 Speaker 1: on every single week. Today is not a day for politics. 14 00:00:47,045 --> 00:00:49,125 Speaker 1: It's a day of remembrance, a day of coming together 15 00:00:49,845 --> 00:00:52,805 Speaker 1: after what happened after the atrocity in Bondai. So the 16 00:00:52,805 --> 00:00:56,205 Speaker 1: Prime Minister is the elected leader of this country, and 17 00:00:56,245 --> 00:00:58,165 Speaker 1: I thought we'd go right to top to find out 18 00:00:58,405 --> 00:01:00,845 Speaker 1: what is happening today at one minutes past seven and 19 00:01:00,885 --> 00:01:03,605 Speaker 1: what is the invitation for all of us tonight and 20 00:01:03,685 --> 00:01:06,324 Speaker 1: joined today to do how on a national day of morning? 21 00:01:06,325 --> 00:01:08,125 Speaker 1: So John, next ten minutes, the Prime Minister is on 22 00:01:08,765 --> 00:01:11,445 Speaker 1: the one thing that we can all take over. The 23 00:01:11,485 --> 00:01:14,285 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, there were so many incredible acts 24 00:01:14,645 --> 00:01:18,085 Speaker 1: of selfless courage and kindness and that is the real 25 00:01:18,165 --> 00:01:19,325 Speaker 1: heart of Australia. 26 00:01:20,045 --> 00:01:23,325 Speaker 3: The Christian O'Connell Show podcast. 27 00:01:23,885 --> 00:01:25,485 Speaker 1: Now at any moment now we are going to be 28 00:01:25,685 --> 00:01:28,925 Speaker 1: taking a call from the Prime Minister who is calling 29 00:01:28,965 --> 00:01:31,285 Speaker 1: the show. Today very important day for all of us. 30 00:01:31,685 --> 00:01:35,405 Speaker 1: It is a national day of morning after the Bondai 31 00:01:35,565 --> 00:01:38,245 Speaker 1: attacks and to tell us all about it and why 32 00:01:38,285 --> 00:01:41,205 Speaker 1: this matters, and the invitation tonight as well. One minute 33 00:01:41,245 --> 00:01:45,365 Speaker 1: past seven is the Prime Minister, welcome back to the show. 34 00:01:45,405 --> 00:01:46,165 Speaker 2: Good to be with you. 35 00:01:47,165 --> 00:01:50,325 Speaker 1: Now tell us about today. This is a national day 36 00:01:50,445 --> 00:01:54,485 Speaker 1: of mourning. It's been builders light will win, a gathering 37 00:01:54,485 --> 00:01:58,485 Speaker 1: of unity and remembrance, which is beautiful. And what does 38 00:01:58,525 --> 00:02:00,045 Speaker 1: that mean to you, Prime Minister. 39 00:02:01,005 --> 00:02:06,005 Speaker 2: Well, it is words that have come from the spiritual 40 00:02:06,085 --> 00:02:11,885 Speaker 2: leader of the about Jewish unity there in Bondai, Rabbi Alma, 41 00:02:12,685 --> 00:02:17,285 Speaker 2: and I think they're very poetic and it says a 42 00:02:17,285 --> 00:02:21,045 Speaker 2: lot sometimes just a few words can This needs to 43 00:02:21,085 --> 00:02:26,485 Speaker 2: be a moment of remembrance for the fifteen innocent lives 44 00:02:26,525 --> 00:02:31,005 Speaker 2: that were taken on that devastating evening at Bondeau Beach, 45 00:02:31,565 --> 00:02:35,085 Speaker 2: but it also needs to be a message of hope. 46 00:02:35,365 --> 00:02:38,685 Speaker 2: That light will win. It was the first night of Harneka, 47 00:02:38,925 --> 00:02:44,965 Speaker 2: which the Jewish community celebrate the victory of light over darkness. 48 00:02:45,165 --> 00:02:49,405 Speaker 2: It's a really positive message of hope and a gathering 49 00:02:49,445 --> 00:02:53,565 Speaker 2: of unity. Is calling for all of us, those Australians, 50 00:02:54,765 --> 00:03:00,685 Speaker 2: Jewish and non Jewish, to commemorate the day in a 51 00:03:01,285 --> 00:03:06,685 Speaker 2: collective spirit, to remember why we are the greatest nation 52 00:03:06,805 --> 00:03:10,285 Speaker 2: on earth, That we are a nation that do respect 53 00:03:10,325 --> 00:03:14,485 Speaker 2: to each other. People of different faiths, different backgrounds have 54 00:03:14,565 --> 00:03:21,245 Speaker 2: come to make Australia their home and that unity is 55 00:03:21,325 --> 00:03:25,005 Speaker 2: what is so important going forward. So I think this 56 00:03:25,085 --> 00:03:28,325 Speaker 2: will be a moment of unity and a moment of hope, 57 00:03:28,365 --> 00:03:32,805 Speaker 2: but also an opportunity for Australia to look forward as 58 00:03:32,845 --> 00:03:37,165 Speaker 2: well and to cherish what makes us such a great nation. 59 00:03:38,725 --> 00:03:40,565 Speaker 1: Well said, I think it's a lovely thing. I think 60 00:03:40,565 --> 00:03:42,485 Speaker 1: it's a very important thing for all of us tonight. 61 00:03:42,525 --> 00:03:44,845 Speaker 1: So it's a one minute past seven And what is 62 00:03:44,885 --> 00:03:46,125 Speaker 1: it that you know there are a lot of people 63 00:03:46,125 --> 00:03:49,085 Speaker 1: listening all across Australia right now, Prime Minister, and so 64 00:03:49,125 --> 00:03:51,485 Speaker 1: your words can really help me tonight. What can people 65 00:03:51,525 --> 00:03:54,885 Speaker 1: do because people want to show solidarity. We're living in 66 00:03:55,045 --> 00:03:58,005 Speaker 1: very divided times. You know, around the world we see 67 00:03:58,045 --> 00:04:00,325 Speaker 1: the news. We see the news like Bondi happening here 68 00:04:00,365 --> 00:04:04,045 Speaker 1: as well. This doesn't feel like Australia. So remembrance is 69 00:04:04,085 --> 00:04:07,205 Speaker 1: also about remembering what it is what matters to us 70 00:04:07,245 --> 00:04:09,485 Speaker 1: to get around each other tonight. So what can people 71 00:04:09,485 --> 00:04:11,005 Speaker 1: do tonight at one minute past seven? 72 00:04:11,805 --> 00:04:14,765 Speaker 2: That's right, well, at one minute past seven, we're asking 73 00:04:14,845 --> 00:04:19,045 Speaker 2: that the nation pause for a minute silence out of 74 00:04:19,085 --> 00:04:24,284 Speaker 2: respect for the victims of this terrorist attack. During the day, 75 00:04:24,565 --> 00:04:27,645 Speaker 2: flags will be flown at half masts at all come up, 76 00:04:27,724 --> 00:04:32,164 Speaker 2: and state buildings around the country, and buildings and landmarks 77 00:04:32,164 --> 00:04:36,684 Speaker 2: across the country like the mcg the story Bridge, Adelaide, 78 00:04:36,724 --> 00:04:40,484 Speaker 2: town Hall off the stadium will be lit up this 79 00:04:40,604 --> 00:04:46,044 Speaker 2: evening and we'll see an installation which is fifteen pillars 80 00:04:46,044 --> 00:04:51,165 Speaker 2: of light shining brightly into the night sky right across Australia. 81 00:04:51,924 --> 00:04:55,525 Speaker 2: And the other thing that people can do this evening 82 00:04:55,685 --> 00:04:58,364 Speaker 2: is light a candle and put it in their window 83 00:04:58,445 --> 00:05:03,205 Speaker 2: sill or the front of their home out of respect 84 00:05:04,005 --> 00:05:08,245 Speaker 2: as well as a symbol of remembrance of morning and 85 00:05:08,565 --> 00:05:14,244 Speaker 2: solidarity as well will be a thing. The other really 86 00:05:14,964 --> 00:05:19,924 Speaker 2: something that I have been lifted up by this concept 87 00:05:20,125 --> 00:05:25,405 Speaker 2: that the Jewish community have of a mitzvah, which is 88 00:05:25,765 --> 00:05:32,964 Speaker 2: essentially an active kindness, compassion and a way of reaching out. 89 00:05:33,085 --> 00:05:39,565 Speaker 2: It essentially can be volunteering, donating some money to a charity, 90 00:05:40,445 --> 00:05:45,805 Speaker 2: helping a neighbor, knocking on the door asking our people 91 00:05:46,484 --> 00:05:49,885 Speaker 2: okay who might be living alone or people who are lonely, 92 00:05:50,085 --> 00:05:56,325 Speaker 2: just an active kindness. It's a really lovely concept to 93 00:05:56,364 --> 00:06:03,404 Speaker 2: show that we are a country that value that attribute 94 00:06:03,445 --> 00:06:07,245 Speaker 2: that we have of kindness and generosity, and it is 95 00:06:07,724 --> 00:06:13,164 Speaker 2: a beautiful thing. I think that I've been spoken to 96 00:06:13,364 --> 00:06:16,844 Speaker 2: by a number of the family members who lost loved 97 00:06:16,844 --> 00:06:23,005 Speaker 2: ones in this tragedy, and it is a really positive 98 00:06:23,044 --> 00:06:24,005 Speaker 2: way of responding. 99 00:06:25,085 --> 00:06:26,724 Speaker 1: I know you've spoken with a lot of the families, 100 00:06:26,765 --> 00:06:29,445 Speaker 1: you spent a lot of time with them. How are 101 00:06:29,445 --> 00:06:32,125 Speaker 1: they all doing? You know, it's you know, it's a 102 00:06:32,205 --> 00:06:35,804 Speaker 1: chance for us to show that tonight where we stand together, 103 00:06:35,885 --> 00:06:38,685 Speaker 1: but also we stand with them in their grief as well, 104 00:06:38,765 --> 00:06:41,244 Speaker 1: that they're not forgotten. I know time does move on, 105 00:06:41,325 --> 00:06:43,525 Speaker 1: but actually it's a chance for all of Australia to 106 00:06:43,565 --> 00:06:46,525 Speaker 1: stand together with the Jewish community and people who lost 107 00:06:46,565 --> 00:06:49,644 Speaker 1: their lives, but the families who are left behind without 108 00:06:49,685 --> 00:06:51,005 Speaker 1: those family members. 109 00:06:51,645 --> 00:06:56,484 Speaker 2: That's right they are. You know, it's been an incredibly 110 00:06:56,565 --> 00:07:02,164 Speaker 2: tough period. These are people who were celebrating their faith 111 00:07:02,565 --> 00:07:06,724 Speaker 2: in an event at Bondo. Boots is such an iconic 112 00:07:07,284 --> 00:07:14,124 Speaker 2: location when people think about Australia, many of the shots 113 00:07:14,125 --> 00:07:19,165 Speaker 2: that will be taken overseas will be of that beautiful 114 00:07:19,205 --> 00:07:23,845 Speaker 2: beach and it's a place of peace and gathering and 115 00:07:24,205 --> 00:07:31,485 Speaker 2: the local community there. The Jewish community have gathered there 116 00:07:31,525 --> 00:07:35,765 Speaker 2: for many years for the first night of Harneker and 117 00:07:35,925 --> 00:07:41,444 Speaker 2: it's an open event. They have pets and things for 118 00:07:41,645 --> 00:07:49,684 Speaker 2: the children. They have a gathering with food and music 119 00:07:49,765 --> 00:07:55,445 Speaker 2: and it's a really positive event. And the fact that 120 00:07:56,645 --> 00:08:00,725 Speaker 2: fifteen people lost their lives but many more injured as well. 121 00:08:01,445 --> 00:08:05,805 Speaker 2: People are visited in hospitals, some are still doing it 122 00:08:05,925 --> 00:08:12,364 Speaker 2: incredibly incredibly tough. It's a difficult period and this is 123 00:08:12,405 --> 00:08:16,364 Speaker 2: a time where I think the whole of Australia can 124 00:08:16,525 --> 00:08:22,285 Speaker 2: wrap their arms around the community because it was a 125 00:08:22,605 --> 00:08:28,244 Speaker 2: deliberate and conscious evil targeting of the Jewish community as well. 126 00:08:29,085 --> 00:08:33,324 Speaker 2: It has had an impact on the entire Jewish Australian community. 127 00:08:34,085 --> 00:08:39,965 Speaker 2: So I think it is a way of us reaffirming 128 00:08:41,204 --> 00:08:47,765 Speaker 2: that we not only want people to celebrate their faith 129 00:08:47,845 --> 00:08:53,325 Speaker 2: and who they are. We all are enriched by the 130 00:08:53,405 --> 00:08:59,645 Speaker 2: diversity in our community, and we really want to see 131 00:08:59,725 --> 00:09:04,725 Speaker 2: tonight as and today is a real opportunity to reaffirm that. 132 00:09:05,084 --> 00:09:07,485 Speaker 1: I think us love the invitation for us all. Tell 133 00:09:07,525 --> 00:09:10,564 Speaker 1: me this, we took those who are injured. How is armored? 134 00:09:10,645 --> 00:09:12,444 Speaker 1: I know that everyone want to know how is the 135 00:09:12,485 --> 00:09:15,605 Speaker 1: great man? How is armored? I understand he's obviously still 136 00:09:15,925 --> 00:09:18,445 Speaker 1: He's still going through his own journey of healing as well. 137 00:09:18,525 --> 00:09:20,324 Speaker 1: Is he in America at the moment getting treatment? Is 138 00:09:20,365 --> 00:09:20,725 Speaker 1: that right? 139 00:09:21,324 --> 00:09:25,684 Speaker 2: He is now? I think he has returned. By understanding, 140 00:09:25,804 --> 00:09:31,564 Speaker 2: is that he is back here. He had Many of 141 00:09:31,684 --> 00:09:37,485 Speaker 2: the people who were injured essentially had shrapnel fragments and 142 00:09:38,405 --> 00:09:42,525 Speaker 2: still in them, and it's expected that there will be 143 00:09:42,605 --> 00:09:47,684 Speaker 2: a number of operations. Armed Hlhammad is so positive though 144 00:09:47,725 --> 00:09:52,365 Speaker 2: I visited him in hospital in the days after the attack. 145 00:09:52,485 --> 00:09:59,245 Speaker 2: He's a genuine hero and he, you know, is very 146 00:09:59,285 --> 00:10:04,525 Speaker 2: positive going forward. But many of the people is a 147 00:10:04,564 --> 00:10:12,525 Speaker 2: young man Yankee super who was a volunteer in what 148 00:10:12,845 --> 00:10:17,925 Speaker 2: is the Jewish version of Saint John's Ambulance will be 149 00:10:17,965 --> 00:10:23,205 Speaker 2: more familiar to to I think many of the listeners. 150 00:10:24,204 --> 00:10:30,925 Speaker 2: He has literally I've seen his x rays. He has 151 00:10:31,045 --> 00:10:37,285 Speaker 2: literally hundreds of bits of shrapnel still in him in 152 00:10:37,324 --> 00:10:45,005 Speaker 2: his torso he was unbelievable that he was able to survive. 153 00:10:46,165 --> 00:10:50,564 Speaker 2: When you see another X ray that shows a bullet 154 00:10:50,684 --> 00:10:54,804 Speaker 2: very close to his lung and one of the lungs 155 00:10:54,845 --> 00:10:59,525 Speaker 2: has been contracted as a lot smaller than the other one, 156 00:10:59,605 --> 00:11:04,605 Speaker 2: you literally can see the damage that's done. And you know, 157 00:11:04,804 --> 00:11:10,444 Speaker 2: he is so positive, it's extraordinary. I've met with him 158 00:11:10,444 --> 00:11:13,005 Speaker 2: a couple of times. He was in Canberra this week, 159 00:11:13,084 --> 00:11:16,005 Speaker 2: and I also met with him in Sydney, and he's 160 00:11:16,084 --> 00:11:20,365 Speaker 2: just a delightful young man who's absolutely determined to make 161 00:11:20,444 --> 00:11:26,165 Speaker 2: a positive contribution to the nation. And there's no bitterness, 162 00:11:26,684 --> 00:11:34,325 Speaker 2: There's nothing there but joy and pride. This is a 163 00:11:34,405 --> 00:11:38,205 Speaker 2: guy who you know, was there again one of the 164 00:11:38,245 --> 00:11:43,965 Speaker 2: people essentially running towards danger, helping out his fellow people, 165 00:11:45,605 --> 00:11:53,325 Speaker 2: fellow humanity. He's a remarkable young man. And I've been 166 00:11:53,405 --> 00:12:02,684 Speaker 2: privileged to meet so many courageous, thoughtful, positive people as 167 00:12:03,564 --> 00:12:11,244 Speaker 2: as a result of what occurred. It's been a real privilege. 168 00:12:11,285 --> 00:12:16,885 Speaker 2: They've been so generous in welcoming me into homes and 169 00:12:18,045 --> 00:12:22,564 Speaker 2: synagogues and having meetings. I've had them at Kirabilly House 170 00:12:22,645 --> 00:12:28,525 Speaker 2: and other members of the community have been at Amoralty House, 171 00:12:28,564 --> 00:12:31,885 Speaker 2: at the Governor Generals and this week I sat down 172 00:12:32,245 --> 00:12:36,804 Speaker 2: on Monday in my office in Parliament House and you know, 173 00:12:38,204 --> 00:12:44,125 Speaker 2: it's a community that is mourning, is going through an 174 00:12:44,204 --> 00:12:48,965 Speaker 2: incredibly difficult time, and I just hope and I'm sure 175 00:12:49,405 --> 00:12:56,204 Speaker 2: that it will be a positive, uplifting experience for them 176 00:12:57,005 --> 00:13:01,765 Speaker 2: today as much as it will also be very difficult. 177 00:13:01,804 --> 00:13:06,965 Speaker 2: They're very much missing their loved ones. 178 00:13:08,084 --> 00:13:10,325 Speaker 1: I think it's a very important thing that we mark 179 00:13:10,405 --> 00:13:12,645 Speaker 1: today because I think it's also the show that we're 180 00:13:12,684 --> 00:13:15,325 Speaker 1: with the people who lost the loved ones, but also 181 00:13:15,324 --> 00:13:17,405 Speaker 1: also all those stories you just shared that we don't 182 00:13:17,405 --> 00:13:19,765 Speaker 1: know about, to show that we see what they did 183 00:13:20,005 --> 00:13:23,484 Speaker 1: and that's the true spirit of Australia. It's not the attack, 184 00:13:23,765 --> 00:13:26,205 Speaker 1: it's those stories you has talked about. That young guy 185 00:13:26,285 --> 00:13:29,885 Speaker 1: was shrappling in him, who ran towards danger. That's the 186 00:13:29,965 --> 00:13:32,525 Speaker 1: real story of what's happened over the last couple of weeks. 187 00:13:32,525 --> 00:13:34,845 Speaker 1: And that's why today really is a day to reflect 188 00:13:34,845 --> 00:13:37,085 Speaker 1: that back to those people as well and to show 189 00:13:37,084 --> 00:13:39,525 Speaker 1: the Jewish community that we stand united with them as well. 190 00:13:39,804 --> 00:13:41,645 Speaker 1: Prime Minister, I know you've got a lot on today. 191 00:13:41,684 --> 00:13:44,045 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for talking to us. It's at 192 00:13:44,084 --> 00:13:46,405 Speaker 1: one minute past seven tonight. That's right, isn't it light? 193 00:13:46,444 --> 00:13:49,645 Speaker 2: Well, that's right, Thanks very much, Christian. 194 00:13:49,525 --> 00:13:51,084 Speaker 1: Thank you. 195 00:13:51,285 --> 00:13:54,244 Speaker 3: The Christian O'Connell Show podcast