1 00:00:10,204 --> 00:00:13,484 Speaker 1: My Heart podcasts. Here more Gold one on one point 2 00:00:13,524 --> 00:00:15,204 Speaker 1: seven podcasts. 3 00:00:14,604 --> 00:00:18,244 Speaker 2: Playlists and listen live on the free iHeart app Gold. 4 00:00:18,604 --> 00:00:20,404 Speaker 3: It's Jones and Demanda driving you home. 5 00:00:20,643 --> 00:00:23,604 Speaker 1: Well Daniel has worn many hats over the years, from 6 00:00:23,643 --> 00:00:27,204 Speaker 1: TV producer to public speaker, mum and of course one 7 00:00:27,244 --> 00:00:30,844 Speaker 1: half of Australia's most loved couples with her husband Grand Danya. Well, 8 00:00:30,884 --> 00:00:33,364 Speaker 1: now she's adding to her long list of credentials with 9 00:00:33,444 --> 00:00:36,403 Speaker 1: a new book, The Weird Little Girl Who Talked to Ghosts. 10 00:00:36,444 --> 00:00:39,083 Speaker 1: It is quite an extraordinary tale. She's with us now, 11 00:00:40,244 --> 00:00:43,524 Speaker 1: helloh wow, how this newsy? 12 00:00:43,844 --> 00:00:47,723 Speaker 3: This is you? We have history you, me and Amanda. 13 00:00:47,764 --> 00:00:48,083 Speaker 3: You are out. 14 00:00:48,084 --> 00:00:49,884 Speaker 4: It sounds a bit, sound a bit. 15 00:00:50,364 --> 00:00:52,924 Speaker 3: Let's not go full and hay on this. No, it 16 00:00:53,004 --> 00:00:54,044 Speaker 3: was we. 17 00:00:54,244 --> 00:00:56,084 Speaker 2: You were our producer when a man or I used 18 00:00:56,124 --> 00:00:59,444 Speaker 2: to do a little segment one Channel seven. And this 19 00:00:59,524 --> 00:01:03,124 Speaker 2: is before before Grant BG, before Grand That's right. 20 00:01:02,964 --> 00:01:04,964 Speaker 5: Because I still remember we had to do something with 21 00:01:05,044 --> 00:01:08,524 Speaker 5: a candle and I was underneath your legs trying to 22 00:01:09,003 --> 00:01:11,964 Speaker 5: light the candle. Do you remember that and the aircorn 23 00:01:12,044 --> 00:01:16,484 Speaker 5: kept blowing out? Yeah, strange things you do as a producer. Wow, 24 00:01:17,244 --> 00:01:18,003 Speaker 5: clearly I made. 25 00:01:17,844 --> 00:01:21,204 Speaker 1: An impact I remember you, but I don't remember that can. 26 00:01:22,724 --> 00:01:24,564 Speaker 3: Light your candle and hide it under a bush. No, 27 00:01:24,844 --> 00:01:26,444 Speaker 3: that's a man's bushel. 28 00:01:27,444 --> 00:01:29,284 Speaker 1: I mean, I've known you for a long time, and 29 00:01:29,324 --> 00:01:32,203 Speaker 1: I admire and respect you, and I just think you're 30 00:01:32,404 --> 00:01:36,324 Speaker 1: an amazing person. But I didn't know about what's been 31 00:01:36,364 --> 00:01:41,604 Speaker 1: going on in your head for so long? In a nutshell, 32 00:01:41,804 --> 00:01:43,884 Speaker 1: what has been going on in your head for so long? 33 00:01:44,324 --> 00:01:47,724 Speaker 5: A lot, I didn't know that this was going on 34 00:01:47,764 --> 00:01:51,164 Speaker 5: in my head because I look, I blocked a lot 35 00:01:51,204 --> 00:01:55,004 Speaker 5: of these things. I have started to go back through 36 00:01:55,124 --> 00:01:58,644 Speaker 5: my entire life to work out where it all first 37 00:01:58,684 --> 00:01:59,444 Speaker 5: began and. 38 00:01:59,364 --> 00:02:01,244 Speaker 1: What's it for people listening who don't know? 39 00:02:01,324 --> 00:02:01,804 Speaker 4: What's it? 40 00:02:02,204 --> 00:02:02,404 Speaker 6: So? 41 00:02:04,004 --> 00:02:05,844 Speaker 4: Connecting to spirits? 42 00:02:06,044 --> 00:02:10,764 Speaker 5: Talking to spirits, you're like a medium. 43 00:02:11,364 --> 00:02:12,524 Speaker 4: I am a trained medium. 44 00:02:12,524 --> 00:02:13,484 Speaker 3: You're a trained medium. 45 00:02:13,764 --> 00:02:16,484 Speaker 5: So I kind of did all of this in the 46 00:02:16,483 --> 00:02:17,884 Speaker 5: dead of night, nobody knew. 47 00:02:18,043 --> 00:02:20,923 Speaker 4: Three years ago, I studied with a school. 48 00:02:20,644 --> 00:02:25,404 Speaker 5: In Canada and I became a certified medium, and then 49 00:02:25,444 --> 00:02:28,644 Speaker 5: I took off overseas. I was invited to Arthur Finlay 50 00:02:28,684 --> 00:02:33,444 Speaker 5: College in London, where I studied a masterclass in mediumship. 51 00:02:33,764 --> 00:02:36,564 Speaker 5: And yeah, I've kind of done it all in secret 52 00:02:36,603 --> 00:02:39,284 Speaker 5: because I just wasn't. I didn't know about it. 53 00:02:39,363 --> 00:02:41,123 Speaker 3: I didn't know that was a thing. I didn't know where. 54 00:02:41,163 --> 00:02:42,724 Speaker 3: You go to a medium university? 55 00:02:42,964 --> 00:02:48,163 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I went to a medium university, terrified because 56 00:02:48,163 --> 00:02:50,684 Speaker 5: it was the world's best mediums that all study at 57 00:02:50,684 --> 00:02:55,804 Speaker 5: this school, and I was invited and had major impost syndrome. 58 00:02:56,163 --> 00:02:59,044 Speaker 5: But when I got there, I realized in Australia, we 59 00:02:59,124 --> 00:03:01,724 Speaker 5: don't talk about this stuff, whereas the rest of the 60 00:03:01,764 --> 00:03:05,844 Speaker 5: world is so open to it. Yeah, that's kind of 61 00:03:05,884 --> 00:03:09,404 Speaker 5: this is my coming out. This book is my putting 62 00:03:09,404 --> 00:03:09,844 Speaker 5: it out there. 63 00:03:10,043 --> 00:03:12,364 Speaker 1: I saw on your socials that you were talking to 64 00:03:12,923 --> 00:03:16,484 Speaker 1: Grant about how you didn't even share with him early 65 00:03:16,564 --> 00:03:18,164 Speaker 1: on what was going on. 66 00:03:18,564 --> 00:03:22,164 Speaker 4: Have a listen, Grant. Yes, when did you first know 67 00:03:22,363 --> 00:03:23,243 Speaker 4: that I was weird? 68 00:03:23,964 --> 00:03:29,164 Speaker 6: First time I met you? What you're built different? It 69 00:03:29,204 --> 00:03:31,644 Speaker 6: took me, in fact, and then when we started dating 70 00:03:31,964 --> 00:03:35,044 Speaker 6: and then realized how weird you were, and it took me, 71 00:03:35,604 --> 00:03:38,003 Speaker 6: I don't know, ten years to try and figure out 72 00:03:38,004 --> 00:03:39,404 Speaker 6: what the hell was up with you? 73 00:03:39,764 --> 00:03:40,964 Speaker 3: And then he's just given up. 74 00:03:41,004 --> 00:03:44,324 Speaker 1: He just but what he said was that he'd be 75 00:03:44,363 --> 00:03:46,484 Speaker 1: talking to and he just thought you were distracted, was 76 00:03:46,524 --> 00:03:47,804 Speaker 1: in fact what was going on? 77 00:03:49,564 --> 00:03:52,524 Speaker 5: I think I've just got so many streams of things 78 00:03:52,604 --> 00:03:57,324 Speaker 5: coming in, and I just assumed that that was just ADHD. 79 00:03:57,244 --> 00:03:59,284 Speaker 1: And we say things coming in and you're hearing voices, 80 00:03:59,363 --> 00:04:00,204 Speaker 1: you seeing images. 81 00:04:00,363 --> 00:04:05,084 Speaker 5: Oh, it's a whole lot of different senses. So sometimes 82 00:04:05,124 --> 00:04:09,644 Speaker 5: I'll see things, you know, like a haziness, and I 83 00:04:09,684 --> 00:04:13,804 Speaker 5: thought my eyes were playing tricks, But no, that's you know, 84 00:04:14,044 --> 00:04:18,084 Speaker 5: I'm sensing that there's a spirit there. Sometimes I hear things, 85 00:04:18,204 --> 00:04:21,524 Speaker 5: just random words, people talking to me, or I pick 86 00:04:21,604 --> 00:04:23,803 Speaker 5: up on a conversation in the next room. 87 00:04:24,884 --> 00:04:26,804 Speaker 2: So I don't poo poo this stuff because I think 88 00:04:26,924 --> 00:04:28,844 Speaker 2: there's bigger stuff. But at the same time, there's a 89 00:04:28,884 --> 00:04:31,484 Speaker 2: lot of things you can't explain. There's those things you know, 90 00:04:31,524 --> 00:04:33,324 Speaker 2: when you're thinking about someone and they call you, or 91 00:04:33,684 --> 00:04:34,484 Speaker 2: all those things. 92 00:04:34,604 --> 00:04:36,764 Speaker 1: It is scary to lean into, isn't it, because it 93 00:04:36,764 --> 00:04:38,924 Speaker 1: means that you have to unlock an entire door. 94 00:04:39,524 --> 00:04:41,004 Speaker 4: Oh, I just got goose months. 95 00:04:41,244 --> 00:04:43,244 Speaker 3: Yes, is there anyone? Can you sense anyone in here? 96 00:04:43,364 --> 00:04:43,604 Speaker 2: Now? 97 00:04:43,844 --> 00:04:44,604 Speaker 3: So you just donnything? 98 00:04:44,684 --> 00:04:46,243 Speaker 4: That question makes me so uncomfortable. 99 00:04:46,244 --> 00:04:49,324 Speaker 3: Do you mean there could be someoney now? Because well, 100 00:04:49,364 --> 00:04:51,604 Speaker 3: I behave well and my dad's dead. 101 00:04:52,084 --> 00:04:54,164 Speaker 2: It would be good to you know because you're what 102 00:04:54,204 --> 00:04:56,764 Speaker 2: happened the other day, right years ago. He died in 103 00:04:56,804 --> 00:04:59,604 Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, and he left me a motorcycle of black 104 00:05:00,004 --> 00:05:03,324 Speaker 2: Yamaha FJR thirteen hundred, and it was a clutchless order 105 00:05:03,364 --> 00:05:04,844 Speaker 2: and it's a bit of a it's a bit of 106 00:05:04,844 --> 00:05:06,124 Speaker 2: an orphan of a motorcycle. 107 00:05:06,204 --> 00:05:08,644 Speaker 3: No one wants it anyway. He passed away. 108 00:05:09,004 --> 00:05:10,604 Speaker 2: He left me the bike because I used to always 109 00:05:10,604 --> 00:05:14,484 Speaker 2: give him crap about it so recently left. So all 110 00:05:14,524 --> 00:05:17,204 Speaker 2: these years later, the engine light came on. So I 111 00:05:17,284 --> 00:05:18,724 Speaker 2: rand the guys at the bike shop and they said, 112 00:05:18,724 --> 00:05:20,524 Speaker 2: I'll bring it in and we'll have a look. As 113 00:05:20,524 --> 00:05:22,564 Speaker 2: I went to bed that night, I went, well, is 114 00:05:22,604 --> 00:05:25,284 Speaker 2: it time to move Dad's bike on? And then as 115 00:05:25,284 --> 00:05:27,284 Speaker 2: I went to sleep, I said, if there's another black 116 00:05:27,404 --> 00:05:30,564 Speaker 2: Fjar thirteen hundred in the shop, a'l trade it in 117 00:05:30,604 --> 00:05:33,123 Speaker 2: and get it as a joke to myself. Yeah, walked 118 00:05:33,164 --> 00:05:37,244 Speaker 2: into the shop at twenty ten, black Fjar thirteen hundred 119 00:05:37,724 --> 00:05:38,524 Speaker 2: sitting in the shop. 120 00:05:38,804 --> 00:05:40,684 Speaker 3: I haven't told anyone this, you know. 121 00:05:40,724 --> 00:05:42,644 Speaker 2: And then I felt guilty and I read my mum 122 00:05:42,964 --> 00:05:45,324 Speaker 2: and she said, your father was a very practical man. 123 00:05:45,884 --> 00:05:49,444 Speaker 3: He's figured the lights come on, move that thing on. 124 00:05:49,844 --> 00:05:52,364 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's got a clutch, so it's not even 125 00:05:52,444 --> 00:05:54,044 Speaker 2: you know, an embarrassing bike anymore. 126 00:05:54,124 --> 00:05:57,644 Speaker 5: So it's yeah, So that is that, Like, I hear 127 00:05:57,724 --> 00:06:00,164 Speaker 5: stories like that all the time, that the spirit is. 128 00:06:00,164 --> 00:06:01,884 Speaker 3: That a sign. Would you look at that as a sign? 129 00:06:02,004 --> 00:06:05,484 Speaker 4: Absolutely? Were you already recognized as sign? 130 00:06:06,124 --> 00:06:09,284 Speaker 3: No, I really believe I just those bikes you don't see. 131 00:06:09,364 --> 00:06:11,164 Speaker 3: You just don't see them. Yeah. 132 00:06:11,284 --> 00:06:13,844 Speaker 2: Well and one like that, that vintage it only had 133 00:06:13,884 --> 00:06:15,803 Speaker 2: twenty three thousand k's on it. 134 00:06:15,964 --> 00:06:19,524 Speaker 3: Wow, that's not that's rare, yeh, it's very rare. 135 00:06:19,724 --> 00:06:20,363 Speaker 4: Yeah. 136 00:06:20,564 --> 00:06:23,404 Speaker 5: Yeah, I see signs all the time, and I think 137 00:06:23,444 --> 00:06:26,284 Speaker 5: once you start to lean into them, and there's you know, 138 00:06:26,404 --> 00:06:29,604 Speaker 5: neuroscientists who talk about this stuff, it is and I 139 00:06:30,364 --> 00:06:33,363 Speaker 5: my hope is that everybody starts talking about it more 140 00:06:33,404 --> 00:06:36,404 Speaker 5: and more because I think more now than ever, to 141 00:06:36,484 --> 00:06:38,844 Speaker 5: feel connected is just so important. 142 00:06:39,804 --> 00:06:42,764 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Chezy, no one can hold a candle to you. 143 00:06:42,884 --> 00:06:45,764 Speaker 3: Certainly you can. When you're with us. We like to 144 00:06:45,804 --> 00:06:49,524 Speaker 3: turn to the spirits on a Wednesday. The Spirit's Cat. 145 00:06:50,204 --> 00:06:52,524 Speaker 2: This is a great book, The Weird Little Girl who 146 00:06:52,604 --> 00:06:53,604 Speaker 2: Talked to Ghosts. 147 00:06:54,124 --> 00:06:55,644 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the longest title I. 148 00:06:55,604 --> 00:06:59,964 Speaker 2: Know she's hold all the world, all the words on 149 00:07:00,004 --> 00:07:02,924 Speaker 2: the pup page chezsey Daniel, It's always great to talk 150 00:07:02,924 --> 00:07:03,244 Speaker 2: to you. 151 00:07:03,324 --> 00:07:04,844 Speaker 3: Say hi to Grant and the kids. 152 00:07:04,684 --> 00:07:07,364 Speaker 4: For this will do. Thank you and thanks for having me.