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Speaker 1: You're listening to Salmon Lola in La La.

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Speaker 2: Land, a podcast that gives you an inside look into

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Speaker 2: the entertainment industry from two homegrown Aussies.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm Sam, I'm a producer, and.

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Speaker 2: I'm Lola, an actor and TV host.

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Speaker 3: Each week, we're going to share with you our honest

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Speaker 3: and real experiences of working in Hollywood, from the baftors

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Speaker 3: to casting rooms, talk shows, red carpet events, and all

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Speaker 3: the little bits are crazy in between.

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Speaker 2: Our hope is that through sharing these stories, the good

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Speaker 2: and the ugly, you'll be encouraged to get outside your

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Speaker 2: comfort zone and chase your dreams.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Salmon Lola in La La Land. Hi, Hello Sam,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. I'm excited about our topics today. We're

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Speaker 2: covering a lot.

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Speaker 4: Do you know why I'm excited because this is we're

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Speaker 4: talking about hosting and TV presenting, and this is like

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Speaker 4: the main reason that you're here.

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Speaker 2: This is true, this is my ultimate If you said.

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Speaker 1: I mean you want to act as well, or you

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Speaker 1: are acting.

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Speaker 2: But if I could be Steve Colbert, I'd be a

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Speaker 2: very happy person right now. So I'm so puffed to

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Speaker 2: talk about it because I feel like I've actually never

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Speaker 2: been on an American late night talk show set, which

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Speaker 2: is probably no surprise. There's no reason for me to

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Speaker 2: have been yet. But you, on the other hand, have.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you've been on morning shows, which we've talked

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Speaker 4: about yeah previously, but yeah, I guess they're slightly different.

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Speaker 4: But it's all still going on set and presenting.

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Speaker 1: I guess I know what it feels.

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Speaker 2: So like late night talk show feels kind a special.

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Speaker 4: Right, Well, should I spoil like the magic of it already?

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Speaker 1: I know episode.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I know where this is going.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So if you don't want the magic of late

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Speaker 4: night talk shows to be spoilt, just block it is.

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Speaker 1: But late night talk shows they're not recorded late at night.

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Speaker 2: I only realized this whilst research for this pod. I thought,

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Speaker 2: oh gee, whez, I'm not a night out, and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: if I get a talk show gig, I have to

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Speaker 2: start being okay with being a night out. They're shot

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Speaker 2: in the RVOT right.

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Speaker 1: Like three four o'clock, maybe two o'clock, so sick out

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Speaker 1: having fun by you know, by late night.

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Speaker 2: Oh I love this. Morning shows are usually shot in

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Speaker 2: the morning.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and they're usually live or live to take right.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you have been lucky enough to be on

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Speaker 2: a few sets what they saw some recorded day of

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Speaker 2: versus or a s recorded in advance, Like how does

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Speaker 4: So I've been backstage at Ellen and Kimmel and James Corden,

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Speaker 2: We need to take a bit. Let's start with Allen Ellen.

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Speaker 4: Well, it was really interesting when I was there because

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Speaker 4: ther last two weeks of the show going to air,

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Speaker 4: but the last two weeks of filming, and they were

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Speaker 1: They were having a ball.

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Speaker 4: Her and Porsche were like driving some like electronic go

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Speaker 4: cut things up and down the corridor and like everyone

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Speaker 4: was just like, let's just make this a really fun

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Speaker 1: So that was really interesting.

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Speaker 4: And what I liked about going to Ellen is that

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Speaker 2: Is that different? Is that unusual? Is usually a show

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Speaker 2: a day unusual?

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Speaker 4: But I know, like cordon On he does a show

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Speaker 4: in a day, and Kim Maloney does a show okay,

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Speaker 4: whereas Ellen will do two shows a day, so she'll

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Speaker 4: shoot the first show, same audience.

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Speaker 1: By the way, literally do a really quick.

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Speaker 4: Fifteen minute costume change or ten minute costume change, come

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Speaker 2: Oh, I like, what an empire's built? Weird question? Do

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Speaker 2: you get presies?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god? Yes? The gifts are insane.

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Speaker 2: Like what like food or skin?

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Speaker 1: Dude, if they've got their own product.

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Speaker 4: I think Ellen, we got a blanket and she had

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Speaker 4: thing called like I can't remember, it's like the Ellen Kit,

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Speaker 4: Yes, I mean I didn't open the Ellen Kit, but

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Speaker 2: That's what she's quite famous. Meant to be amazingly comfy too.

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Speaker 4: Everyone tells me this, this is the one thing everyone

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Speaker 4: talks about is Ellen undies. I'm like, I didn't even

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Speaker 4: are the undies?

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what, how funny? That is the main thing

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Speaker 4: But yeah, the good you walk in and it's just

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Speaker 4: like you get your own little room if you're on

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Speaker 4: the in the shows that I've been to. And then

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Speaker 4: there's this like gift bags and food and like branded

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Speaker 2: I saw you wearing it the other day and I

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimmel T shirt? You're like, they just gave it.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is really bad.

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Speaker 4: But we were painting and I needed a shirt that

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Speaker 1: So literally, as I was walking out.

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Speaker 4: I can get paint time.

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Speaker 1: I would be living.

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Speaker 2: Oh So now this is another geeky question, but how

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Speaker 2: long does the host get with the talent, Like do

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Speaker 4: It depends. I mean often if they have time, they

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Speaker 2: That was it like thirty seconds.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Cordon and Kimmell. No, they're off like

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Speaker 1: You will do what's called a pre call.

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Speaker 2: So that's normal for Aussie TV shows as well.

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Speaker 4: Probably way different rules there, but yeah, so you'll do

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Speaker 4: And then you'll try and you know, they'll try and

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Speaker 2: Around that and find some little secrets like thing that

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Speaker 4: It was like it's such a cute like nod to

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Speaker 1: You remember it and fun Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So they'll usually from the pre cael they'll then go

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Speaker 2: So you've got to have all your glam and everything number.

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Speaker 2: That's the same in Australia too, yeah, which it used

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Speaker 1: Like no, get glam.

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Speaker 2: Oh, so I know this isn't the same. But when

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Speaker 4: I mean that's super safe, Like I get it. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: the prequel will come in and be like, right, this

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Speaker 4: And then we've got a little like, yo, your game.

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Speaker 1: Like the hosts will usually be like, ye, Ailola's got

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Speaker 2: in of itself.

445
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Speaker 4: And for those listening when we say multiicam, all that

446
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Speaker 4: means is that we're on a sound stage or in

447
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Speaker 4: a studio and there's more than one camera. There's only

448
00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,639
Speaker 4: one camera recording at one time if it's live to

449
00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,600
Speaker 4: tape or live to air, but it gives you more coverage,

450
00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,800
Speaker 4: so the director in the control room can be like

451
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Speaker 4: camera one, now, camera four, camera six, camera five, And

452
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Speaker 4: that's kind of how you get your coverage when you're

453
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Speaker 4: shooting live or live to tape as opposed to just

454
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Speaker 4: a single camera shoot.

455
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Speaker 2: Totally, And even when you're watching it at home, you

456
00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:06,280
Speaker 2: might not realize it's multicare, especially yeah, when I'm doing

457
00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,879
Speaker 2: recipe things on set, like, obviously that's a different camera

458
00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,760
Speaker 2: that's getting all the macro stuff of me chopping and

459
00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,840
Speaker 2: onion and whatnot versus the wider.

460
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Speaker 4: Stuff totally and to your point, and what you're saying

461
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Speaker 4: now is it's often a good idea to check with

462
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Speaker 4: the director because sometimes there's specific cameras that they want

463
00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,720
Speaker 4: your eyeline into camera and other ones they're doing cutaways with.

464
00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,960
Speaker 4: So they might say to you, listen camera five, three

465
00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,200
Speaker 4: and six, when the red lights on, can you look

466
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Speaker 4: into camera? The other cameras ignore, So then when camera

467
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Speaker 4: four lights come on, that's getting a cutaway of you

468
00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,240
Speaker 4: chopping mushrooms or whatever it is. So you don't want

469
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Speaker 4: to be like looking like this street.

470
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Speaker 1: It's like, hey, hello there hello.

471
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Speaker 2: Do you know what really interesting thing I let really

472
00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,520
Speaker 2: on doing recipes on TV is not blocking the camera.

473
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Speaker 2: So like often when you're doing a recipe, you've got

474
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Speaker 2: maybe eight ingredients and you naturally, so when a camera is,

475
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Speaker 2: say filming we're talking about mushrooms. It's the theme of

476
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Speaker 2: the food bit at the moment. If a camera is

477
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Speaker 2: filming the mushrooms, your hand naturally kind of wants to

478
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Speaker 2: grab the mushrooms but block the camera and so you

479
00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,359
Speaker 2: have to almost like flick your wrists around so that

480
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,679
Speaker 2: it's going to feel really awkward, but it means that

481
00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 2: the audience gets to see what you're making. And so yeah,

482
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Speaker 2: I learned that kind of early on. But your natural

483
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Speaker 2: inclination is to block camera.

484
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, No, it's a real skill set to not

485
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Speaker 4: do that, but still to have a natural performance as

486
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Speaker 4: if like you're just there chopping away and cooking mushrooms.

487
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Speaker 2: And here they are speaking of skill sets. There's a

488
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Speaker 2: few things you're really good at that scare me, and

489
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Speaker 2: the first one is in ear work.

490
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Speaker 1: Can we explain in ear?

491
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Speaker 2: Yes, I said to say, is it or is it

492
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Speaker 2: in a ear? And your lessoner in erea is your

493
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Speaker 2: actual inner ear, Lola.

494
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Speaker 4: So we talked about this a little bit on the

495
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Speaker 4: production episode and we said that we talk about it

496
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Speaker 4: more today. So the best way to describe in ear

497
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Speaker 4: is you have a little like headphone in your ear

498
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Speaker 4: and a bit like you know on James Bond does,

499
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 4: or it could be a little bit bigger, but it's

500
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,119
Speaker 4: usually will be clear, so you don't really see it.

501
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 1: Now.

502
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Speaker 4: This is usually given to the host of a talk show,

503
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 4: and what this means is that the control room can

504
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,160
Speaker 4: talk to them. So what's happening is as they're interviewing,

505
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 4: the control room would be saying you haven't asked them

506
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,360
Speaker 4: about this, or you got that fact wrong. You need

507
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 4: to correct yourself. And they're constantly having information fed into

508
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Speaker 4: the ear while they're trying to have so hard. Do

509
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Speaker 4: you know who is an absolute, absolute pro at this

510
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 4: And I used to sit there just in amazement is

511
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 4: Gretel Colleen when she used to do the live Biger shows,

512
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 4: and you could tell she had one hundred people going

513
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 4: my mom, especially when she'd open the envelope and there'd

514
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 4: be no name written at who'd one or whatever, and

515
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 4: she's waiting for them because they're still counting the votes.

516
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Speaker 4: And she was so calm and collected, and sometimes she'd

517
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Speaker 4: be like, you could tell that they're all flus and

518
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 4: she'd be like, big brother, I can't actually hear you.

519
00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:01,640
Speaker 4: There's too many people talking, really, but she still keep

520
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 4: her cool. She was a pro ad it.

521
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Speaker 1: But it's a really hard skill to manage.

522
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 4: And one of the tricks to doing it is to

523
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Speaker 4: have a phone call and we all do this and

524
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Speaker 4: watch TV at the same time, but to be able

525
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 4: to continue the phone call and know what's going on

526
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 4: at the TV. And if you can train yourself to

527
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 4: do that, you're training yourself to use in EIA.

528
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Speaker 2: That's such a good hats. That also my a type

529
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 2: like personality that freaks me out as well, because I'm like,

530
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,120
Speaker 2: what am I doing one or the other?

531
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Speaker 4: But I get it and it is really off putting

532
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 4: and it is a real skill, and I'm making it

533
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 4: probably sound easier than it actually is. But you're trying

534
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 4: to maintain a conversation while someone is telling you not

535
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 4: only what to say or what not to say. And

536
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 4: a good director will know when to come in and

537
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Speaker 4: when to talk to you so they're not monopolizing your

538
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Speaker 4: in ear. But also we need to go to an

539
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Speaker 4: ad break now, Lola, You've got five seconds to wrap

540
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Speaker 4: this up.

541
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Speaker 1: Camera falls on you.

542
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Speaker 4: You're not looking at camera for It can be like

543
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 4: stage directions as well, totally.

544
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 2: And when I've had in ere as a guest, you'll

545
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 2: often get your segment producer or jump in like two

546
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 2: minutes before and be like, hey, Lola, just checking you're

547
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 2: all good. You're on in two minutes, and you're like, yep,

548
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 2: all good. And then if you're lucky, about thirty seconds

549
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 2: before you go on e if the host knows you

550
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 2: or one of the hosts knows you, they'll be like, Laula,

551
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 2: so excited to have you back, and it kind of

552
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 2: calms you down straight away totally. But the mistake, I

553
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 2: don't know if I mentioned this before, but the mistake

554
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 2: that I've sometimes made is I'll be listening to in

555
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Speaker 2: ear with the host interviewing me and looking at the

556
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 2: monitor and it's slow, so the monitor is about a

557
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 2: second behind what you're hearing, and then so I really

558
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 2: quickly just look down the barrel of the camera and

559
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 2: ignore the monitor. So if anyone listening, if you're ever

560
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 2: getting interviewed, ignore the monitor. Trust the inn the in ear,

561
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Speaker 2: not beginner.

562
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Speaker 4: Inner ear is like the medical term of what's in

563
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Speaker 4: ear is the effeci of equipment.

564
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Speaker 2: I could just see us like patenting our own product

565
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 2: out Sam and Lawla in a rear. But yeah, that's

566
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 2: a good that I found. That, Like, always go back

567
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 2: to the barrel of the camera because that's your friend,

568
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 2: that's your audience.

569
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, and don't if you're a guest on a show,

570
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 4: don't get freaked out because they won't talk in your ear.

571
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 4: Usually while you're doing your segment. It's mainly for you

572
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 4: to be able to hear the actual host because you're

573
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 4: usually if you have any ear when you're a guest,

574
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,719
Speaker 4: you're in a separate room, yes, or on the field

575
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 4: or yeah, live on location exactly which the project does

576
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 4: heaps off. And that's even harder doing live on location

577
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 4: because you have voices in your ear which are the host,

578
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 4: but you can't see them.

579
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 2: And totally and you've got I've done like segments from

580
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Speaker 2: like playgrounds and stuff for the project, and there's kids

581
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 2: running around, there's wind, then there's people trying to do

582
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 2: like peace signs behind the camera, and you're like, oh

583
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 2: my goodness, like and.

584
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Speaker 1: It's a real skill.

585
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Speaker 4: It's a real skill to interact and connect with the

586
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,919
Speaker 4: person that's talking to you without being able to see them,

587
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 4: only to hear them, and by looking at them in

588
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 4: a camera and you've got to imagine the cameras them

589
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 4: when you're talking.

590
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Speaker 1: It's quite confronted.

591
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Speaker 2: It's really in front and it is over so fast,

592
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 2: like they're like and thank you done, and I'm like,

593
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 2: oh my goodness, back to normal life.

594
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just getting started. Right.

595
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Speaker 2: What about AUTOQ, because I know you've gotten a lot

596
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 2: of experience at auto Q. I've got a bit of

597
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 2: experience with it too. Looks a beast.

598
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Speaker 4: Auto Q is a beast yeah, I find it slightly

599
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 4: simpler because it's just reading. We can all read, but

600
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 4: it's just getting used to it, you know. And there's

601
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 4: loads of apps that you can download and practice at home.

602
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 2: Oh maybe a couple of little links in the show notes.

603
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 4: And look, autoq' is great because it's being used more

604
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 4: and more now and even like there's apps you can

605
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 4: get on your iPad, so like it'll come on location

606
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 4: and it's not just something now that's in studio or

607
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 4: if you're hosting a big award show.

608
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Speaker 1: But it's just a skill that you've got to learn.

609
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 4: And I know we talked about it in the Baptist

610
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Speaker 4: episode and the operator will run the script at the

611
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Speaker 4: speed that you're talking, so you've got to get used

612
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Speaker 4: to the fact that it's not going to like go

613
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Speaker 4: too fast. They will use you as the tempo totally.

614
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 4: But yeah, the trick with that is I always think

615
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 4: with auto Q, if you can know your material, yes,

616
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 4: if you can't, you have to learn how to make

617
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 4: it sound like it's fresh and you're saying it for

618
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 4: the first time, which is is kind of acting, you know,

619
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Speaker 4: So as a host you almost have to act in

620
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 4: a way because you have to act like, hey, I've

621
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 4: never read this before, or even more, I have read this, bore,

622
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 4: I know exactly what I'm.

623
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Speaker 1: Saying, when actually you might not.

624
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And what often happens for that reason is things

625
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 4: that I was spelt phonetically on an AUTOQ too, and

626
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 4: I always laughed, like watching the news or watching the

627
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 4: extentiment you can tell sometimes if they've never seen it

628
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 4: before and it's like written phonetically and the word just

629
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 4: comes out so wrong.

630
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Speaker 2: Really, yeah, oh I have to find this. I reckon

631
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 2: it all might be laughs at But the thing about

632
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: auto Q, I used to see it as like I

633
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 2: was afraid of it. But also I did a commercial

634
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 2: and I was like, no, no, I can just learn

635
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 2: a content commercial. By the way I Sam taught me that.

636
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 2: I was like, I think I've done a commercial and

637
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 2: you're like, was it for online Lola commercials?

638
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: It's like, it's just not a TV commercial.

639
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 2: But I did type and I was like, let's learn

640
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: the script word for word. But Legal was there on

641
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,959
Speaker 2: site and they wanted things change, which is totally normal,

642
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: and as a result, I had learned a script that

643
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 2: wasn't the approved one by Legal that got changed at

644
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 2: six am in the morning and then just kept getting

645
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 2: progressively changed throughout the day. And I had never had

646
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: this experience be for And they quickly said the production team,

647
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 2: let's get an AUTOQ here because they can change things

648
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 2: on the fly. You're not going to freak out that

649
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 2: the script is changing as you go. And it was

650
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 2: the best gift ever. And you've literally got a human

651
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: with you typing it, changing it on the spot, moving

652
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 2: it at the speed in which your natural cadence and

653
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 2: your natural like all that stuff sorts itself out. It's

654
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 2: not like a computer that you need a speed just

655
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: you don't need to talk really really fast or anything.

656
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 3: No.

657
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 4: But the key is, and this is where it becomes difficult,

658
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 4: is you have to make it look natural, like you're

659
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 4: not reading it.

660
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that in itself is acting.

661
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 4: So if you're out there and you're interested in this,

662
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 4: or you want to be a presenter, or you're interested

663
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Speaker 4: in AUTOQ, it's a really good idea. Just pick up

664
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 4: a book or find a script online and just read

665
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 4: it as if you know what you're talking about and

666
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 4: you're not actually reading it.

667
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 1: If that makes sense.

668
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: Reading out loud is one of the first things I

669
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 2: do for dialect stuff. So if I'm working on an

670
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 2: American dialect, I'll pick up a book and just read

671
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: it all on dialect out loud. But it just gives

672
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 2: you the confidence because you're sitting in speaking out loud consistently.

673
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 2: It's a really weird but yeasy free. It's like water

674
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: is good for your health. It's like a free skill

675
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: set tool like tune up you can do. Just reading

676
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: out loud's powerful.

677
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely.

678
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 4: And if you're in a business or a company that's

679
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 4: maybe not necessarily TV or film, but you have to

680
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 4: appear on the media to talk about a product or

681
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 4: whatever it may be. There are courses and a friend

682
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 4: of mine, Shelley Horton, she's a TV presenter for Channel nine.

683
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 4: I know she has a wonderful media training course that

684
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 4: she runs under her company shell Shock, and she's brilliant

685
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 4: and she runs.

686
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: Over all these tips and tricks that we're talking.

687
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 2: About, and there's heaps. You can try this stuff all

688
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: over the world wherever you are the world.

689
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you're in Australia, I just know she's

690
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: a good one and she does it over zoom too.

691
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: Oh perfect. I've got to say, I know you're gonna

692
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: laugh at me about this when this probably is more

693
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 2: being a guest on a TV.

694
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: Show.

695
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: But Sam, green rooms aren't green. I'm serious. I was

696
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 2: totally shocked the first time I went on on a

697
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: TV so I was like sitting in the went to

698
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 2: hair and makeup and they're like, okay, you can go

699
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 2: to the green room. Now it's a cream like cream room.

700
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 2: I remember I was sitting at my friend and I

701
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: was like, because I bought my buddy on with me

702
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,719
Speaker 2: for moral support, and I was like, when are they

703
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: taking us to the green room? And his face just

704
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: dropped and he's like, you're in it.

705
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: You're in it.

706
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 4: So the green room is like an area backstage at

707
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 4: the theater too, or in a studio or whatever where

708
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 4: you kind of wait before you're to go on. Yeah,

709
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 4: there's it's quite contentious where this came from. But they

710
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 4: think it dates back to like old ancient English times.

711
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 4: We're backstage that actually were room the way Churl was

712
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 4: painted green. Oh I love this, but as I said,

713
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 4: this is contentious. So there's other like conspiracy theories.

714
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: I want to where the green room.

715
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 4: Actually the name came from, but that's become one of

716
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 4: the most common ones.

717
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: That they think that's like back in the day.

718
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: Ah, very cool, very very very cool. I feel like

719
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: talking about TV hosting and TV presenting, we should kind

720
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 2: of like have a little kind of like nod to

721
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: public speaking and seeing like because it's I know, it's

722
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: a a total other whole skill set and.

723
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: Total beasts of own.

724
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Speaker 4: And I think also just for listeners, you know a

725
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 4: lot of people listening would have been asked to do

726
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 4: a speech at their mate's birthday or you know, asked

727
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 4: to speak, go back to their school and speak, or

728
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 4: maybe have to speak.

729
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know something.

730
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: You literally marry people as well? You can can't you.

731
00:30:59,320 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 3: Can?

732
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: I funny story here? Oh my goodness, do you know

733
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: what I'm going to say?

734
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 4: This happens a lot to me. So I'm a qualified

735
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 4: celebrant in Australia.

736
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: That's a big deal.

737
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 4: Not in terms of I'm a big deal, but it's

738
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 4: like a whole course that you have to study. It

739
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 4: takes like a year to do assignments and you've got

740
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 4: to send multiple videos and it was like a nine

741
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 4: to twelve month thing. And when I did it, it

742
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 4: was easier and now it's even harder. And I found

743
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 4: it like a lot of work. So I'm now qualified

744
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 4: and I marry friends.

745
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: But I was talking to Lola one day.

746
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 4: And early on in our fam earlier on, she's she's

747
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 4: just arrived here, she's got a green card, and she

748
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 4: was talking about her partner, Matt, and I was like,

749
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 4: you know, I could marry you, and Lola literally looked

750
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 4: at me and her face dropped.

751
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, why she being all weird, and she was like, oh,

752
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: yeah cool, yeah, yeah cool.

753
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 4: But when she thought I was asking to marry, and

754
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 4: probably thought I was trying to get your green card

755
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 4: or something, I'm like, oh, but.

756
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: That happens a lot to me.

757
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, I married my friend the other week,

758
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 4: and people are like, you did, who's your friend?

759
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: Anyway?

760
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 4: So I do have to speak publicly, and I actually

761
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 4: often get asked to do. I think because I've got

762
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 4: a background in his do you know, speeches of friend's.

763
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: Birthday, he'd be so good at it.

764
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 4: Well, I'm really lucky because it's kind of inherited. My

765
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 4: dad worked in advertising and he they coined him like

766
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 4: the father of direct marketing, which I won't even go into.

767
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 4: But he used to go around the world and do

768
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 4: talks on direct marketing. And he had a very very

769
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 4: funny promo film that he would play before he walked

770
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 4: on stage, and he had superimposed which back in the

771
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 4: eighties like no one was doing himself on the royal

772
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 4: balcony next to the Queen and then next to I.

773
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: Don't know, Muhammad Ali, and the people and the audience

774
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: loved it, and that's.

775
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 4: Clever because you know, that's a sure fire way to

776
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 4: make sure the audience is with you before you even

777
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 4: step out of stage. And then the last shot is

778
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 4: him on the balcony with Pope John whatever. Pop it

779
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 4: was time, and the balcony falls and there's a huge

780
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 4: like tumble like the whole building and there's smoke everywhere,

781
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 4: and then he would come through the curtain covered in

782
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 4: towel compowder and wipe it off himself of.

783
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: His come from the rubble. And then he would always

784
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: have this trick, and he was a very very very good,

785
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: well known public speaker, and he would have this trick

786
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: where he would always do something a little bit like

787
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: he might trip, or he might drop his pen or

788
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: drop his notes or whatever it was, just because then

789
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: the audience still a bit uneasy. But then they're on

790
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: your side and they're like, oh no, we want this

791
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: person to win. Yeah, it was the tricks.

792
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 4: I'm too embarrassed, Like I don't do that because I'm like,

793
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 4: I feel stupid, like tripping on the way up to

794
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 4: do a speech at a birthday or something. But he

795
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 4: was very subtle at it and always seemed to work.

796
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: I love that. One thing. I was thinking, I've done

797
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 2: heaps of public speaking over my career, and sometimes if

798
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: I was like quite nervous, the first thing I'd be

799
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: like is, oh yeah, bloody nervous, and I'd say it

800
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: into the mic on stage. It probably a bit your dad,

801
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 2: and people would laugh at that, and then you're like,

802
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 2: oh great, I'm in safe hands. And then you could

803
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 2: go on with your speech and know that everyone's on

804
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: your site, or you'd hope at least.

805
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 4: So, I mean, you've done loads of this, you know,

806
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 4: especially in a professional capacity. You've gone around and talked

807
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 4: about your books and nutrition, and you're constantly in front

808
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 4: of different crowds and different people, and you know, public

809
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 4: speaking basically, I mean, I'm putting you on the spot here,

810
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 4: but like, what would be like some of your top

811
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 4: tips for people that have to do this, even if

812
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 4: it's just for a speech at a birthday party.

813
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, So for me, I always just might just be real.

814
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 2: But you and I both a type personalities, so I

815
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: do like to have something prepared. But it's funny as

816
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: my career changed from like nutrition and reciping too more

817
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 2: mental health. Every time I get booked for a speaking gig,

818
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 2: they'd be like, can you talk about daily detoxes? And

819
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: I was like, nah, I want to talk about mental health.

820
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 2: And for me, whenever I was talking about I was

821
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: passionate about and more recently it's about can I talk

822
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 2: about failing? And they're like what, But if I'm passionate

823
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 2: about it, then that's usually what the audience connects with.

824
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, because everybody wants to be like ignited

825
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 2: by something. Everyone wants to do that thing that feels

826
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 2: like their purpose where time stops TV hosting or late

827
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: night talk show hosting. For me, hopefully this poto, you know.

828
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 2: And so I think as long as you're passionate about

829
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: what you're talking about and you're being real, and you

830
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: find that it's that human connection bit piece, whether it

831
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 2: be like what your dad did or that you're just

832
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: really honest about there's a real, vulnerable pocket of what

833
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: you're saying. There's the human connection. I'm all about, like

834
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 2: connecting with the audience.

835
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 4: I think that's excellent and to go back to TV

836
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 4: hosting and presenting and that's what we're talking about, and

837
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 4: I would completely agree with you.

838
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: I think one of the biggest.

839
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 4: Tips is to be authentic, to be real, even if

840
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 4: it's a speech at a birthday party, and connect with

841
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 4: the audience like you're just talking to your best friend

842
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 4: or your dog or whoever it is, and don't get

843
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 4: overwhelmed that there's one hundred people or fifty people in

844
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 4: front of you. Practice the speech is if you're just

845
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 4: talking to a friend. And if you can get up

846
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 4: there and do that and feel familiar and feel friendly

847
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 4: and be warm and generous and just real and authentic,

848
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 4: and I love that You're like, fuck, I'm nervous.

849
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: Do you know what a lot of people's feedback would

850
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: be to me when I still heaps of public speaking, Shit,

851
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 2: you're not. They'd be like, oh my god, you don't

852
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 2: sound how you look and I didn't expect you to

853
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 2: speak like that. And I was like, well, what do

854
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 2: you mean? And so I think that to me is

855
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 2: like this prim and proper like nutritionist author and like

856
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 2: my accent's quite Australiana, and I don't mind swearing and

857
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 2: having a bit of a body mouth. And I think

858
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 2: that like that juxtaposition of like you you might have

859
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 2: be all glammed up and her hair amazing, like.

860
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 4: This super pretty, like flowery dress, like all your glamor

861
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 4: you're like bloody, eh mate, what are we talking about today?

862
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: But I think it's that realness, you know, that comes

863
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: like I would like to think.

864
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 1: I agree.

865
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 4: I think it's a really great tip if you can

866
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 4: just be real and authentic and don't try and be

867
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 4: someone you're not. If you're not a great speech at

868
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 4: a speaker and you've got to make a speech speech,

869
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 4: you don't have to get up there and pretend you're

870
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 4: a great speaker.

871
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: You can like play into that.

872
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, because someone's going to relate, someone else is

873
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 2: going to be like shit, I'm nervous to do that too.

874
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 2: I like your tip about public speaking. I know I'm

875
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 2: putting on the spot, but I can totally feed it

876
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 2: too if you don't you know what, I.

877
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah for it.

878
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 4: But this comes with a caution because I can do

879
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 4: this because I've practiced, like, I've done it a lot.

880
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 4: I wouldn't necessarily suggest that everyone does this, but I

881
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 4: recently had to give a speech at a birthday party

882
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 4: and there was a lot of industry people like profile,

883
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 4: high profile, nominated people, people that literally are like hosts,

884
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 4: you know, as a living and I was shitting.

885
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: I remember, because we were hanging out in the lead.

886
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm like, how am I going to

887
00:37:58,680 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: do this?

888
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 4: And typical me, a type like I put so much

889
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 4: pressure on myself, and I was like, the only way

890
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 4: that this is going to be impressive is if I

891
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 4: can do it without any notes.

892
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: Epic.

893
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 4: And I'm lucky because my dad taught me this because

894
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 4: my dad would speak without any notes. And my tip

895
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 4: for talking without any notes is I would plan the speech,

896
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 4: know what I wanted to say, know the key points

897
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 4: I wanted to hit, and I would practice it over

898
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 4: and over and over and over and over without notes,

899
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 4: and then when I get up there on the day,

900
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 4: all the same things. Be real, be authentic, be friendly,

901
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 4: open kind, and talk through your points. But it doesn't

902
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 4: matter if you don't hit the points, it doesn't matter.

903
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 4: No one knows, only you no, you know, and you

904
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 4: have key phrases that you know that you want to

905
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 4: hit and exactly like TV presenting or acting, get up

906
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 4: there and make it feel like this is the first

907
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 4: time you were saying these words, and that really strikes

908
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 4: a chord. But I want to say also, I just

909
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 4: want to preface that with again, not ever has to

910
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 4: do that. And I really believe if you've got a

911
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 4: four page speech or you've got note cards or whatever

912
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 4: you feel comfortable with, that's the most important, and the

913
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 4: delivery and the connection. So if you're up there with

914
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 4: ten pages and you're reading, but you're authentic and real

915
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 4: and you're connecting with everyone, it doesn't matter. So don't

916
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 4: put the pressure on yourself.

917
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: That I did.

918
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm glad I did because I knew I

919
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 4: could pull it off, and I wasn't sure until I

920
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 4: got up.

921
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 2: There was eight minutes or something. Yeah, yeah, that's a

922
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 2: solid It was.

923
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: Eight minutes, I know.

924
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 4: And someone else is making a speech too, And I

925
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 4: sat down before the speeches and this person had like

926
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 4: and he's a really good speaker, and he was going

927
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 4: last because he's excellent, and he had like four tight

928
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 4: pages and I'm like, oh shit. And he was like,

929
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 4: do you know have notes? I'm like no, It's like,

930
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 4: how long are you talking for? I was like, oh

931
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 4: about eight minutes. He's like, that's a long.

932
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: Speech not to have notes. Oh my god.

933
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 4: Actually then I freaked out, so I did actually take

934
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 4: my phone up, and I had my phone for like

935
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 4: the first couple of minutes, just as like a little

936
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 4: and then I put it on the table and I

937
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 4: was like, nah, I got I got this.

938
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 2: Oh I love this tip. I am pumped to talk

939
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 2: about voiceovers because we've both got really different experiences. Oh

940
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 2: my goodness, before we get into it, can you do

941
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 2: the MTV Nights straight away?

942
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: No, it's so good though. No, please look, yeah, I

943
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: need to warm up.

944
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 2: No.

945
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 4: Look, I think the thing is I've been doing voiceovers

946
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 4: since I was about eight years old, and Lola, you

947
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 4: have to do them all the time for the podcast,

948
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 4: and you do commercials and just endorsement deals and all

949
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 4: the rest of it. And I think a lot of

950
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 4: people think, oh, voiceovers, that means that you're like, you

951
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 4: do these funny voices, and.

952
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 2: You know, that's a whole different ballgame. Character voice, character.

953
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 4: Voices, that's cartoon. The majority of voiceover jobs, are you

954
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 4: being yourself or a version of yourself? So when I

955
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 4: did like MTV, I was the voice of MTV Australia

956
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 4: for three or four years, give it to us. But

957
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 4: what you have to do is you have to put yourself.

958
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 4: Who are the viewers of MTV Australia, Like, who's listening

959
00:40:58,800 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 4: to this?

960
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: What do they sound? Hot? Kids? So it's me, but

961
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 1: it's not me. So I'd be like tonight on MTV,

962
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: I love it, I love it, I love it something

963
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, only on MTV. So I don't sound

964
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: like that.

965
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 4: But it's a version of me playing I guess a

966
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 4: character in a way, but it's still my voice.

967
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 1: But I'm just like really cool and you can have

968
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: a coke with me and hanging out at the pub.

969
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 2: Yes please.

970
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 4: But they are a beast of their own And I

971
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 4: think what people don't realize with voiceovers is a lot

972
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 4: of the time, unless it's a pre planned commercial like

973
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 4: what you do, you will get booked for a job,

974
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 4: whether it's for KFC or you know, when I was

975
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 4: doing MTV, they'd be like they need you on Thursday

976
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 4: and you will go into the booth.

977
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: You don't get the script beforehand.

978
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they literally like here is the script, or

979
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 4: in the MTV case, here's fifteen scripts. Oh, you've got

980
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 4: to get them done an hour, and you've never read

981
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 4: any of them before. The reasoning behind that is because

982
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 4: it kind of keeps it fresh. So you'll do like

983
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 4: a run, and then you'll keep doing it and then

984
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 4: you'll kind of get the flow of it. And then

985
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 4: if it's matching a TV commercial or whatever it is,

986
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 4: you'll have the vision that you've got to match all

987
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 4: the music and you kind of it's a skill set.

988
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 4: But once you do it, you get used to it,

989
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 4: and then you just get used to pumping them out.

990
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 2: What about breath? Do you mark out breaths? I do?

991
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't.

992
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 4: I used to when I started, But breaths are really

993
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 4: important because, especially if you're doing a script from top

994
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 4: to bottom, you can run out of breath, especially if

995
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 4: you've done like too long sentence.

996
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 2: Well, I've just recorded an audio Bookah, so that's like

997
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 2: a ten hour book on audio, and you've got a

998
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 2: really small window to record it. But your voice fries

999
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 2: after three hours, like you can only do three hours

1000
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 2: in a day. And I had to quickly figure out

1001
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 2: how to land like the breaths without being like and

1002
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: so then in this happened and you run out and

1003
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: you run out of steam and it sounds really bad.

1004
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again you've got to be relatable and familiar,

1005
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: and you've got to want people, you know, to want

1006
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: you in there.

1007
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: E is is Oh you're gonna laugh, by the way,

1008
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: do you want not? The only pickup I had to.

1009
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 4: Do was so a pickup is when you like record

1010
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 4: like Lola's recorded an audiobook and then they listen back

1011
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 4: to it and they're like, oh, wait, that line doesn't work.

1012
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 1: We need to redo it or pick it up again.

1013
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: Correct. So there's a bit where I'm telling a story

1014
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 2: about swimming with whale sharks in the Maldives and they're like,

1015
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: it's Meldiv's Lola What. I wasn't allowed to say Maldives.

1016
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 2: I had to be re recorded Maldives. What. Yeah, I'm

1017
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 2: guessing that's my Bogan Australian accent.

1018
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, no, sorry, everyone listening this is like it's

1019
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 4: the mould Dives.

1020
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: Well, I had to go. But it was a British

1021
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 2: company that did the audiobook, so maybe British people call

1022
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: it Maldives.

1023
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: I went to a very expensive school. I am writing

1024
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 1: them a letter. This is like, blow on my mind.

1025
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: How interesting though, But you know, that's a.

1026
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 4: Funny thing that comes up a lot with presenting, the

1027
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 4: voiceovers and all the rest of it is there are

1028
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 4: always words that you just are so hard to now.

1029
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 4: It's and often, as I said earlier, like they'll give

1030
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 4: you the phonetics of it.

1031
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.

1032
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 2: When I said your voice about this, I was like,

1033
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 2: when they send you the phonetics, like how to make

1034
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 2: a word sound. I was like, you know, like, how

1035
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 2: funny is it when you've got to say your website

1036
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 2: and they literally write dt dot com instead of a

1037
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 2: dot and then calm.

1038
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: And you were like what.

1039
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 4: In twenty years, no, probably twenty five years of doing voiceovers,

1040
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 4: I have never had to read a website where it

1041
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 4: has said www and then dot spelled dot.

1042
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 2: That's all I get, Sam, Oh my god, that is

1043
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:36,959
Speaker 2: all I guess.

1044
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: That's hilarious.

1045
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 2: I have one story saved for you that I haven't told,

1046
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 2: so it's to go to go on with the theme

1047
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 2: of my first ever audition.

1048
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 4: In la Oh yes, and I had to we have

1049
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 4: to remind everyone. Yeah, my first ever Lula's first ever

1050
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 4: audition in LA. I mean, this is like stuff we're

1051
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,479
Speaker 4: going to talk about forever. This is career you're making.

1052
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 4: We talked about it in episode one. She had to

1053
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 4: do a deodorant commercial.

1054
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: Not just any deodorant.

1055
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: It was a vaginal deodorant commercial.

1056
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: I love that you say vaginal.

1057
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: I don't even know that exists. I'm like, what the

1058
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 1: fuck is vaginal?

1059
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 3: Dio? You know?

1060
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 2: The best bit is, so there's a line where I

1061
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 2: have to go, it's a whole body deodoran. It's safe

1062
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 2: to use on your privates, pits, and feet.

1063
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 1: In what order? Sam? In what order I'm vomiting? So

1064
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: I got this.

1065
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 2: I've already recorded this, Like this came out agent, let's

1066
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 2: add for the podcast, and it's for vagina wipes. And

1067
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: there's like three different.

1068
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 4: Fla for all the vaginal commercials. What do you mean

1069
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 4: there's different flavors, not flavors since.

1070
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: Sense to walk out all ry, not like Vanini rama,

1071
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 2: but do you do you know what's really funny. My

1072
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 2: agents sent it to me and they're like, oh, you're

1073
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: probably gonna want to pass on this, and I was like,

1074
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: that's seven hundred bucks or whatever it was or like

1075
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 2: a thousand bucks. I'm deal it did it in one

1076
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 2: take straight off. The bat didn't laugh, got it out,

1077
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 2: and Matt was just because Matt edits the podcast. So

1078
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 2: I'm like, how funny I'm going to ad for a

1079
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 2: vagina wipe with my boyfriend for the podcast.

1080
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: This is like I didn't even know these things existed,

1081
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 1: and I don't think I want to know. I don't

1082
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: want to know.

1083
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: What else can I A se you quickly about dubbing

1084
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 2: ps Yes, because you did it for a KFC.

1085
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 4: Ad, right, So this is very common often if you

1086
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 4: have a brand, say KFC. I've done it quite a

1087
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 4: few times, but KC was the first one that I'd

1088
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 4: ever done. It's an American TV commercial. It's going to

1089
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 4: air on Australian TV, so they don't want it to

1090
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 4: air with American voices. They want it to air with

1091
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 4: Australian voices, so it feels natural to an Australian audience.

1092
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 4: So what you have to do is you have to

1093
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 4: go in and you have to match your dialogue in

1094
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 4: Australian to the American dialogue. Yeah, that's hard and it

1095
00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 4: doesn't sound that hard. It's really difficult. Because Americans use

1096
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 4: their mouth differently than Australians, but it's still English where

1097
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 4: it would be different, like if it was a Japanese

1098
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 4: commercial or something, you just know it was dubbed, whereas

1099
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 4: this they're trying to make it look authentic.

1100
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: And it's a really difficult skill.

1101
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 4: It's a bit like ADR, which we talked about in

1102
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 4: the production episode, but with ADR, you're dubbing yourself, so

1103
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 4: you know your inflections, you know how you say things,

1104
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 4: you know how they sound, you know how your mouth looks.

1105
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: This I'm dubbing. Actually this out.

1106
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 4: I think I was dubbing like a fifteen year old

1107
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 4: kid and I was like, thirty amazing, and it's yeah,

1108
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 4: it's a really difficult skill, but it's done quite a lot.

1109
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: And didn't you get in one take straight? First time

1110
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 2: you ever did it?

1111
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: It was funny.

1112
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,439
Speaker 4: I was nuwe to voiceovers and it was a scene

1113
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 4: between me and a mum and the mum was in

1114
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 4: the waiting room with me and she's like, oh, have

1115
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 4: you ever dubbed before?

1116
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: And I'm like no, and she's like, oh good luck,

1117
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: it's so hard, blah blah.

1118
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,479
Speaker 2: That's a little means I know, I know sil away

1119
00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 2: you know, I was such a nice.

1120
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: Not about it and anyway, and we got in there

1121
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: and she was a bit like I'll go first, you know,

1122
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 1: watch the probe, and she fucked it up royally, like

1123
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: they literally spent half an hour with her, and then

1124
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: she kind of like looked at me and.

1125
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 4: Was like, you gave me a like yeah, good luck.

1126
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 4: And I got up there and I did one take

1127
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 4: and they're like, yeah, that was great, and she was

1128
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 4: just like what, I'm glad she got to see it.

1129
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 4: But that was a flick because it's much harder than that.

1130
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 4: I don't know how I did it in one take,

1131
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 4: but it takes time to get the like rhythm and

1132
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 4: cadence and everything right so it looks like it matches.

1133
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 4: But there's lots of tips and tricks with voiceovers. I

1134
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 4: always I always take in a pencil and I mark

1135
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 4: my script up in a pencil because often the way

1136
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 4: that you do it needs to change for various reasons.

1137
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,720
Speaker 4: And an ad is very different to just talking naturally.

1138
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 4: We have a tendency to kind of go down at

1139
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 4: the end of our senses. I know Australians go up,

1140
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 4: like they usually end a sentence with a question when

1141
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 4: you're just talking, and you've got to give the end

1142
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 4: of the sentence a lot of power and a lot

1143
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 4: of follow through so that it doesn't fade. Yes, you've

1144
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 4: almost got to go up. And often you'll do it

1145
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 4: and they'll be like, nah, you need that the end

1146
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 4: of that sentence needs to be stronger. Yeah. And then

1147
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 4: also another trick, which is great for recording, is to smile.

1148
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 4: Smile through the words and you've been right, Yeah, it's

1149
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 4: so fun too.

1150
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: And I'm smiling now as I'm talking.

1151
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 4: You can tell how much difference it is to what

1152
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 4: I was doing, you know, thirty seconds ago.

1153
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 2: And the other thing is that you give a lot

1154
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: Like I noticed the first time I did a commercial,

1155
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 2: like in a radio studio and they were like, oh, no,

1156
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 2: you need to give it like one hundred percent and

1157
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 2: sound like and I was like, oh my godness, I

1158
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 2: sound so eager beaver and over the top. But then

1159
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 2: when you actually hear the ad as you're driving along

1160
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 2: in your car or whatever, it sounds totally normal.

1161
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think it's a bit like you know when

1162
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 4: you hear your voice back and you're like, who was that? Yeah,

1163
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 4: You're like, no, no, that's You're like I don't sound

1164
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 4: like that.

1165
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 3: You know.

1166
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 4: It's a bit like that, like you don't you have

1167
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 4: a concept of how you're sounding, but you don't actually

1168
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 4: know because you're not hearing it the way everyone else

1169
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 4: is hearing it. And you're right, I would do the same.

1170
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 4: And if they're like more and more, and I'd be

1171
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 4: sitting the booth going this is ridiculous. I would be like, guys,

1172
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 4: I'm going to do one. I'm going to go one

1173
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty percent, and you just tell me if

1174
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 4: I need to put it back and more than off

1175
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 4: and they're like no, that was great, and you're like really,

1176
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 4: and then you listen to it and it's not nearly

1177
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 4: as big as you.

1178
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,919
Speaker 1: Thought it was in your head. So more is less, yeah,

1179
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: depending on what's required.

1180
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you have to do everything in those booths

1181
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 4: like I've done well, we'll put my voice reel in

1182
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 4: the in the show notes, but I've done like a

1183
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 4: gatorad ad.

1184
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: I think it's in the real I'm not sure it is.

1185
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 3: It is.

1186
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: And you're like, it's like I'm running like in a

1187
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: carnival or something, but I'm like.

1188
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 4: Literally in the booth, running and breathing right and then

1189
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 4: I think I'm drinking V A V drink and I'm

1190
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 4: at a dance party, but it's just me and the

1191
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 4: booth going.

1192
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 1: WHOA be your energy? You know, I love it.

1193
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 2: It's so cool. It's funny. With all the podcast ads

1194
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 2: I record, I have to stand. I don't like sitting.

1195
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: I always stand.

1196
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 2: Is it so that you've got access to more energy?

1197
00:50:58,520 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1198
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 4: And I move and I my hands and I mean,

1199
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 4: I've got to be careful where I am in relation

1200
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 4: to the mic. But absolutely, like, how can you do

1201
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 4: a Gatorade ad where you're meant to be running in

1202
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 4: a marathon sitting down in a chair, like and I

1203
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 4: even had a Gatorae bottle with me because I had

1204
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 4: to drink and everything. And you got to like put yourself.

1205
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,439
Speaker 4: It's acting. You got to put yourself in that scene.

1206
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 4: If I was in a marathon running and I was

1207
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 4: having a drink, you wouldn't be doing it quiet. You'd

1208
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 4: be like yeah, and then you hate your drink and

1209
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 4: then you're trying to get your breath and you're like

1210
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 4: Gatorade while.

1211
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: You're on the go. You know, like, I love it,

1212
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: but you got to get into it, and you look

1213
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: like a fucking idiot in the booth because everyone's like really,

1214
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: you know, serious behind the like panels and you're on

1215
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 1: the boosters like being an idiot. But that's your job

1216
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: and it pays really well.

1217
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 4: Really yeah yeah, ive always sid this pay really well,

1218
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 4: especially if it's like a roll out on a TV commercial.

1219
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 2: Well, I wish I knew that. I did a little

1220
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 2: CD ROM game as a kid when I was like

1221
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 2: twelve or something, and I don't think I got paid ascent.

1222
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 2: I think I got the free CD rom.

1223
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god. No, you could have made a fortune.

1224
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 4: But if you think about it, I only think about

1225
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 4: it because I'm in this industry. But voices are used

1226
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 4: everywhere on.

1227
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: The tram, those annoying people when you're on phone, you know,

1228
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: hold to.

1229
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,720
Speaker 4: Like Telstra or AT and T and it's like please

1230
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 4: hold blah blah blah, whoever Quantus, whoever you.

1231
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: That's all someone has to be paid to record.

1232
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. It's so so okay. This is

1233
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: a real nerdy gooby thing I want to do. And

1234
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 2: I'll put this in the show notes. It is the

1235
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 2: BTS of the voices of Guardians of the Galaxy. So

1236
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 2: Bradley Cooper plays this little like Weasley raccoon, and it's

1237
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 2: it's exactly what you were saying, like in the Gatorade ad,

1238
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 2: like he's getting so like because his characters kind of

1239
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 2: like worked up the whole time, and watching his face

1240
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,720
Speaker 2: because remember he's, like you said, he's in a booth,

1241
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 2: but he's when we watch the movie. There are five

1242
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 2: other characters in this scene, some of which are humans,

1243
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 2: because he's the one thing that there's two characters in

1244
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 2: Guardians of the Galaxy that are not humans that are

1245
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 2: either a raccoon or a little tree. I'm groot who

1246
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 2: only says I am grout. But it's probably my favorite

1247
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 2: voice over bts that I've ever seen, because you get

1248
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 2: to see all that animation that you were just talking

1249
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 2: to and it's so much fun.

1250
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: And often what happens. Have I told you that I've

1251
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: done a cartoon, No, often.

1252
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,720
Speaker 2: The American accent one, yes, oh my goodness.

1253
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 4: But often what happens is you're in the booth by yourself,

1254
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 4: You're not there opposite another actor, and you're just delivering

1255
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 4: the lines and then that's cut in with the other

1256
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 4: actors delivery. And often this happens all the time, even

1257
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 4: with TV commercials, they'll say, give me some alts, so

1258
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 4: you'll do the line three times this standard and each

1259
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 4: time it's slightly different.

1260
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: So it's like, what's an example, like hay, Lola, how

1261
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: are you? Hey, Lola? How are you? Hey, Lola? How

1262
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: are you? And then they'll pick one of those three takes.

1263
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 2: But I think as an actor as well, like even

1264
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 2: I was always told acting school, always have six to

1265
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 2: eight versions of everything that you're putting up as an audition,

1266
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 2: so it's hard to do that on the fly.

1267
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 4: All cartoons are slightly different. To get the script in

1268
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 4: advance and you will get time. But yeah, I did

1269
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 4: this cartoon I don't often talk about because it was

1270
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:17,760
Speaker 4: it was the Animated Kids Bible Amazing, and they got.

1271
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 1: Me into audition for it.

1272
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 4: And when I got in there, they were like, oh,

1273
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 4: you've got to do a North Atlantic American accent and

1274
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 4: I still to this day don't know. And they were like,

1275
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 4: the director's North Atlantic, just copy him. And the director

1276
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:31,720
Speaker 4: had this insane accent.

1277
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm never going to get this. And

1278
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: I was reading for the part of Adam, I think

1279
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: Adam and Eve, and so I read and I walked

1280
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: out I was like, that was the weirdest experience ever, Like,

1281
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: this is hilarious. And then they called me. They were

1282
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: like you got it. I'm like what so? And then

1283
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: I went in and I recorded, and then they booked

1284
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: me to play Noah's Sun and Caine from canaan Abel

1285
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,240
Speaker 1: and I did like eight characters.

1286
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 2: Did you change your voice?

1287
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: Heaps?

1288
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 4: But this is why I laughed, because I'm like, some

1289
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 4: poor kid is watching this in North Atlantic America and

1290
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 4: all these characters have the same name and they don't

1291
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 4: even sound They're like, why does this person not sound

1292
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 4: like me?

1293
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: He sounds like some dodgy Ozzie.

1294
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 2: But how interesting. It is common for voice actors in

1295
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 2: one show to be playing multiple roles. That is actually

1296
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:15,919
Speaker 2: super super cool.

1297
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, very common. And there's also a trick that

1298
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: you've got to get good. We don't always have to

1299
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: do this, but at the end there's like disclaimers or

1300
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 1: little things where you have to say it really quickly,

1301
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: and often people think that's sped up, but it's not

1302
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: sped up.

1303
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 4: It's actually done on the spot. So I thought we'd

1304
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 4: have a little go at one today.

1305
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, what are we saying?

1306
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 1: So if you have this. No, but see this is

1307
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 1: perfect because this is what it would be like.

1308
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 2: For me, don't you.

1309
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: And if you're Australian you would know you've heard this

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Speaker 1: on the radio.

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Speaker 2: How long have I got to say it?

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Speaker 4: So you've got two seconds? Oh holy Molly, So tell

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Speaker 4: me when you're ready and we'll time it ready. Spoken

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Speaker 4: by Alberry, authorized by LP camera.

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Speaker 1: Three seconds eighteen. It's not bad je spoken by Elbelly,

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Speaker 1: authors by LP camera.

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Speaker 2: Very is a tricky one.

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Speaker 1: Then you do it over and over and over again.

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Speaker 2: You put a nice political voice on two.

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Speaker 1: I like that. Well, you've got to like get a character.

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Speaker 2: Oh where speaking of games, Sam is at game time?

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Speaker 1: Game time?

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Speaker 2: We're getting so into our games. I love it. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So we thought we'd do some talk show fun facts, right, yes,

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Speaker 2: do you want to go first?

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Speaker 1: Sure? And this actually shocked me because it's about Oprah.

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Speaker 2: I've got an Oprah one too.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if it's saying, oh god, we do this

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Speaker 1: every episode. No, I know, Okay, So her given birth name, no,

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Speaker 1: I've got different. I'm looking at.

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Speaker 4: Her given birth name is actually after a woman in

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Speaker 4: the Bible, and she's been I've got to say birthed

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Speaker 4: Christened Yeah, Christened or part really, but people kept pronouncing

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Speaker 4: it wrong, so she changed it to Oprah. N.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's cool. Do you want me to follow up

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Speaker 2: with my Oprah one? Yeah. So Oprah's interview with Michael

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Speaker 2: Jackson at his Neverland ranch to this day is still

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Speaker 2: the most watched interview to date, No, over ninety million viewers.

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Speaker 2: And you know she's the longest running daytime yeah show

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Speaker 2: twenty five years.

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Speaker 1: Insane, that's amazing. I can't believe. Still today I met her,

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Speaker 1: did you? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: For only three seconds at like some Swiss event in Australia,

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Speaker 2: but it was like hi, Someone's like Hi, this is lowless.

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Speaker 2: She's a nutritious I.

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Speaker 1: Was like, photo, take a poe. Yeah. Yeah. So my

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Speaker 1: next one is about Letterman.

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Speaker 2: Oh great, I have no Letterman.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 4: So he was on air for thirty three years with

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Speaker 4: his show, which is over six thousand shows.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 1: Do you know he never wore the same tie twice?

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Speaker 2: No, but that that fits David Letterman to me, like

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Speaker 2: having that's amazing. He's incredible, Yeah, incredible.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So this one I had to do with Steve Colbert.

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Speaker 4: One.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course fa So his shows filmed with Ed

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Speaker 2: Sullivan Theater in New York and I did not know this,

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Speaker 2: but on set there is Captain America's shield and it's

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Speaker 2: because Steve Colbert thinks or has a theory that Captain

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Speaker 2: America has died, and so the Marvel team sent him

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Speaker 2: Captain America's shield and said he left it for you

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Speaker 2: in his will.

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Speaker 1: Stop.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so grud How cool is that?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: Fan? Yeah, oh my god, I actually love things like that.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm a massive Housewives fan.

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Speaker 2: I know this about you.

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Speaker 4: Andy Cohen has a show, but what's it called, like

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Speaker 4: Watch what Happens Live? Yeah, which he does I think

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Speaker 4: every night. I like love watching it here. But all

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Speaker 4: he's sat in the clubhouse. In the clubhouse has all

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Speaker 4: things from the shows.

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Speaker 1: It's like iconic and it's so cool.

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Speaker 2: I've only seen snippets, but everyone goes gangbusters for his

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Speaker 2: like follow up shows to everything.

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Speaker 4: If you're like obsessed with the Housewives franchise, then yeah,

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Speaker 4: but otherwise don't don't even bother. So my last fact,

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Speaker 4: which is kind of a bizarre one, but let me

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Speaker 4: just say it. Yeah, Ellen and Madonna are eleventh cousins.

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Speaker 1: No, so I don't what the fuck that means. So

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Speaker 1: I was trying to work it out.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, well, I don't even feel like you and

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Speaker 4: I could be eleventh probably, but like someone's worked that out.

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Speaker 1: No, is that not weird?

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Speaker 2: Kind of cool? I hope there's an interview about it,

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Speaker 2: Surely she's I love that Jimmy Fallon. I'm a big

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Fallon fan. Okay, so we know he came up

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Speaker 2: through the ranks of SNL and in two thousand and

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Speaker 2: one when he was on SNL, he actually modeled for

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Speaker 2: Calvin Klein and I've found the photos. No, so I'm

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Speaker 2: going to put him in the showdow Gold how Gold.

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Speaker 2: And this is another thing that I just love. So

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Speaker 2: where he is that he's got a late night talk shows,

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Speaker 2: you know, which was passed down from Cod and O'Brien

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Speaker 2: and before that, David Letterman. I hope I've got that

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Speaker 2: that combo, right.

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Speaker 1: I never got Conan.

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Speaker 2: I never understood that massive comedian. No, but there is

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Speaker 2: literally a pickle hanging from the ceiling of Jimmy Fallon's

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Speaker 2: office that's been passed down from David Letterman to Conan

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Speaker 2: O'Brien now to Jimmy fallon it stays hanging in the office.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a real pickle. I have

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Speaker 2: no idea. I thought you'd like that though, Oh.

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Speaker 1: My god, I love that. But that like, you're not

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Speaker 1: going to have some like old, rotted, moldy pickle hanging

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Speaker 1: from the road. Surely not.

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Speaker 2: No, it'll be like a toy stuff pickle. But maybe

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Speaker 2: it's like a good luck pickle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of cute.

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Speaker 2: I like it. I love the games.

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Speaker 1: So that was presenting and voiced over and talk shows

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Speaker 1: and all the rest, all of them getting near the

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Speaker 1: end of the season.

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Speaker 2: But what have we got next?

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Speaker 4: Which is really exciting, So we've got to ask us

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Speaker 4: anything episode. We've had loads of questions coming. I'm so

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Speaker 4: excited to like go through them and like answer everyone's questions.

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Speaker 4: And so if you've got any questions from today's episode

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Speaker 4: or any of the other episodes, dm us.

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Speaker 2: Pop it in the comments on the pod, any of that,

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01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 2: and we're going to sit down, press record and just

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01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 2: answer your questions. So anything that you want. I was

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01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,439
Speaker 2: about to say, nothing's off limits, but I can see

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01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 2: Sam's space rather than special I.

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Speaker 1: Know some of the ones that have been sent you.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, we're not talking about that on the ship

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Speaker 1: all for Sam.

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Speaker 4: Same.

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Speaker 2: I'm sending you mega love from from La la La.

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Speaker 4: Bye.