1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: Kate Torbert, and I'm coming to you in that weird 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: period after Christmas where nobody knows what date it is. 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: I feel like we have to have a little bit 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: more accountability now that it's the new year. We are 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: recording this in January. Well, this was meant to be 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: pre recorded, wasn't it It was. I actually think it's 9 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: nicer to record this in real time because I feel 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: a bit more afresh. 11 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: We had a good week and a half off. 12 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes you excited to get back into things, well, 13 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: back into the influence world. 14 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: So much has been going on since. 15 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: The break as well well, as you can tell by 16 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: the title of this episode. We're not back to regular 17 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: scheduling this week. We will be back next week, and 18 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: I've had quite a few messages saying, what are you 19 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: talking about Tammy Hembro. 20 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: Don't worry. 21 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: We will be going in depth on everything that's been 22 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: going down with Tammy next week. In today's show, though, 23 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: we are going to be revisiting our twenty twenty five 24 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: influencer predictions now Sadly, I wasn't part of last year's episode. 25 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: I think I was celebrating my anniversary. There was some 26 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: reason that you guys were hanging shit on me about it. Well, 27 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: I actually ended up having to listen back to that 28 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: episode to see what we said, and it was hilarious 29 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: because we did hang shit on you. We're like, I'm 30 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: not sure why I vined's the whole day to celebrate 31 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: her anniversary. 32 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: It was very special. 33 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: It was I mean, it's nine years this year, and 34 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: did we do much nuh. We spent it on the couch, relaxing. 35 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: I think we had some take away. It was very 36 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: different to last year. Well, I'm glad that you know 37 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: you celebrated properly the year before. I think we should 38 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: get into the correct predictions first. So this might be 39 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: a little bit of a stretch because we actually said 40 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: it in our twenty twenty three predictions for twenty twenty four, 41 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: but we predicted that Chloe's Eppen mitch Orville would return 42 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: to YouTube with a family flogging channel. It only took 43 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: two years, but it kind of happened this year. So 44 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: they announced that they are set to make a return 45 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: based on their two young sons Artie and Sonny's request 46 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: were yet to see a video though, so maybe it's 47 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: going to be something that happens into twenty twenty six. 48 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: In saying that, I saw that Chloe Zepp has now 49 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: set up a kind of motherhood religious substack, and she 50 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: put it on her story and you've said, here's linked 51 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: to it. Only seven people have subscribed. 52 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: How much does it cost? 53 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: You know? 54 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's actually free. Oh okay. 55 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: I feel like having a substack is like the twenty 56 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: twenty six version of having a podcast, like if everyone 57 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: starting one, it's very oversaturated. That is pretty embarrassing to 58 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: only get seven subscribers, But what do you expect when 59 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: you have completely fallen off the face. 60 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: Of the earth. 61 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: I hope that they actually do bring out this family 62 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: vlogging channel again. I mean they said it would be 63 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: more of a family adventure style, a little bit like 64 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: Brodie Moss, but I think that would be pretty cool. 65 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: I think Mitch would be great in it. 66 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: Mitch's got a fantastic personality for being on camera. I 67 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: think he really made Chloe and his vlogs. They had 68 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: their couple vlogging channel and he was in charge of 69 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: filming majority of it. Yeah, I think Mitch, I hate 70 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: to say it was the star of the show. And 71 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: I think Chloe it seems like she's lost a bit 72 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 1: of confidence in front of a camera. Like I saw 73 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: her recording an ad and I was like, it seems 74 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,839 Speaker 1: like she's never been online before. Well, if you cast 75 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: in minds back, I think it was either twenty twenty 76 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: one or twenty twenty that we did an episode entitled 77 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: the Cancelation of Chloe's EPP and that is really when 78 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 1: she had an influx of people unfollowing her. She was 79 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: in the headlines at the time. From that time onwards, 80 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: she has really been quite irrelevant. So that's four years 81 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: of not really posting anything, not being engaged with her audience. 82 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: I mean, she shut down her clothing line last year. 83 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: It seems like since then she's been searching for something else. 84 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: I mean, she came out and basically said she. 85 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: Regretted doing that, I'm closing it. 86 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. I noticed on her Instagram bio it says that 87 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: she closed ZEPP and is now the CEO home. But 88 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: it's quite clear that she's looking for something else. Additional, 89 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if her talking about religion is maybe 90 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: the way to go. I think that it would work 91 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: for an American market, but I'm not sure what her 92 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: demographic when you break it down via location, looks like 93 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: I assumed it would be Ozzi's. Now let's get into 94 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: another prediction we got right, and that was that Morgan 95 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: Waterhouse Olivia Rodgers X would date a low level influencer. 96 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: So again it seems like we sort of some what 97 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: got that correct And this is no shade thrown at 98 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: the beautiful woman he ended up dating this year. So 99 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: in May twenty twenty five, Morgan attended a Runway show 100 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: with a thirty two year old Perth model called Bella Secoro. 101 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 2: So she is. 102 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: Somewhat of a micro influencer. She's got sixteen point nine 103 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: thousand followers and alongside her modeling career, she is an 104 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: account manager for fashion brand Runway, the label she also 105 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: appeared on both Made in Chelsea and Made in Bondi 106 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: is pretty wild because Bella has previously dated Tammy Hembro's 107 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: ex fiance Matt Paul, as well as Sidney Swan's footballer 108 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: Isaac Heeney. A couple of episodes ago, you were talking 109 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: about making a bit of a family tree. I don't 110 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: know family trees a right word, but a bit of 111 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: a map of all of the influences connected with Tammy 112 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: Hembro and her part relationships. Here's another branch to add 113 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: to that. Drink. Yeah, I mean in terms of Bella's 114 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: relationship with Morgan Waterhouse, it's unclear if they're still dating. 115 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: Before their public appearance together. Bella appeared in a reel 116 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: of Morgan's back in April, but we haven't seen anything since. 117 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: I'm assuming that they have split. Moving on to our 118 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: next correct prediction, Well, I actually should give Amy credit. 119 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: She's the one that came up with is she said 120 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: that Sophie Jane Miller would launch a matcher company. She did. 121 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: It's called match Elane. What they didn't predict was that 122 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: Amy would be so addicted to Matcha and then get 123 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: us all into it. We've been getting a lot of 124 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: stick from people saying, oh, you're only drinking it because 125 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: influencers do. Like our cousins were like, oh, oh for 126 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: the grammar. I'm like, no, it's actually delicious. It's actually 127 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: a reason not to drink it. Yeah. No, I am 128 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: absolutely hooked to one of the things that we spoke 129 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: about when we touched on the launch of her new 130 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: company was the pricing. So I brought up at the 131 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: time that it seemed quite expensive for the small sashet 132 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: that they were getting. Now, I think because it was 133 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: a startup, they wanted to dip their toe in the 134 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: water with just a small package. Because it has been 135 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: quite successful, they have now released a larger package, which 136 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: makes a lot more sense. I mean it's ceremonial grade 137 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: much as well, which you know, when we weren't drinking much, 138 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: I didn't really know much about it. But it's hard 139 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: to get good much. I haven't actually tried it. I'm 140 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: very tempted to, very starting to get quite influenced by it. 141 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 2: I have been seemed to. 142 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: Be swayed because I enjoy Sophie j Miller's flogs. I 143 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: also enjoy watching Georgia Richards, Smiley Citrus, all of the 144 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: Rachel Catherine, all of their sort of friendship group, and 145 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: they're always all drinking it. I really enjoyed Sophie Jane 146 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: Miller's vlog mess and then Georgia Richards did the December Diaries. 147 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: Oh, I was hooked on Georgia Richards. 148 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: I think she put out the perfect amount because she 149 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: I think she released every three to four days and 150 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: it was enough time that she had enough interesting things 151 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: to include in there. Yeah, there is something about her 152 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: vlogs that is so undeniably relaxing. She is a fantastic blogger, Yeah, 153 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: because she has this ability to draw you into her world, 154 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: because she's very relatable. She kind of says when she's 155 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: having a shit time, which I liked it. You know, 156 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: it's not just. 157 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:07,559 Speaker 2: The highlights real of her life. 158 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: You said relatable, But I don't think her lifestyle is 159 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: that relatable in the sense that she, you know, doesn't 160 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: work a nine to five. From the outside looking in, 161 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: it seems like a lot of the activities that she 162 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: does are very enjoyable and fun. But I think what 163 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: makes it relatable is that she's very open about her 164 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: mental health. 165 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I mean. 166 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: I don't think that her career is particularly relatable to 167 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: most people, or the way that the flexibility that she 168 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: has with her lifestyle, because sometimes I watch it and I'm like, 169 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: you know, it seems like a bit of a chore 170 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: to go down to Cole's, Like you know what I mean, 171 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: But I do. I do love her content. No, shade throat. 172 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: That's the stage of their life that they're in. When 173 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: you do reflect on your mid twenties, it was a 174 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: bit to go to the supermarket. It's not until you're 175 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: in your thirties and you're a mother that it's an 176 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: actual pleasure to go to the supermarket on your own. 177 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 178 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of nice also watching it because 179 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: it does make you, you know, at my age, reflect 180 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: on those fun times that you had when you didn't 181 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: have any responsibilities. Like it's a bit of escapism, I suppose. 182 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 183 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: Anyway, back to another one of our correct predictions, we 184 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: said this time next year, Steph cles Smith's hair will 185 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: be long and luscious, but possibly have hair extensions in 186 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,679 Speaker 1: it to help with postpartum hair loss. Now I'm pretty 187 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,119 Speaker 1: sure she doesn't have extensions, but she's growing out that Bob. 188 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: I also saw today hot off the press that apparently 189 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: she is considering getting her fringe back. No, I don't 190 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: think she should. I think that what's happening with Steph 191 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: Claire Smith, and I think this is what a lot 192 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: of influencers do is she's gone back and had a 193 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: bit of a stalk of her own Instagram, a bit 194 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: of a nostyle. She looked back at the time when 195 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: she wore that fringe, and that was before she had Harvey, 196 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: so probably she had it after them pretty much. So 197 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 1: she said that she had it four years ago before Harvey, really, 198 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: and I think that would have been a really exciting 199 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: time in their life where she had a lot of freedom. 200 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: And she's probably thinking, I want to be that Steph again. 201 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: I want to be that version of me again. 202 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: Let's get the fringe. 203 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: But I feel like saying, honey, you just wait till 204 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: you get one like me. I've got a fringe. I 205 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: didn't choose it. It's just postpartum hair growth. I need 206 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: to do something with my hair because it is not 207 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: looking good baby hair being blonde or having fake blonde hair, 208 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: having black baby hair coming through is not a vibe. Well, 209 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: I'm not looking forward to this time next year when 210 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: you've got a little little eighties fringe like I have. 211 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: It's honestly been worse than I thought. And because you 212 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: can't actually pin any of this down again, I keep 213 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: talking about how influenced I am over the influencer products. 214 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: Obviously it's in the name that's meant to be influential, 215 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: but I'm that tempted to go buy a boof hair 216 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: at this stage. 217 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: Well, maybe by it and let us know if it 218 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 2: actually works. 219 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I will now getting into our final correct prediction 220 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty five, and that was that Molly May 221 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: and Tommy Fury would get back together. 222 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: Love to see it. 223 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: I take my hat off to Molly because even though 224 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: as a consumer of her content, we're all very aware 225 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: of the murkiness that has gone on behind the scenes 226 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: that the controversy, you know, Tommy's been painted it's really 227 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: a bit of a dick hare it, a bit of 228 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: a lad who likes to go. 229 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: Out and drink. 230 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: But the way that she curates the those photos of them, 231 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: you would think that they were the perfect couple. That 232 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: they never had a nice It's like just back on 233 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: to what it used to be, and I like to 234 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: just believe in it. Yeah, even though it was a facade. 235 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I hope that Tommy has changed a bit. 236 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: I mean, he was very open that he struggled with drinking. 237 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: I'm assuming that he's getting help now. But I do think, 238 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: you know, deep down, we all know that was a 239 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: little bit of an excuse for bad behavior that might 240 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: have occurred in the relationship. 241 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: Showing my potential cheating there. 242 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: Well, there are infidelity claims, we don't know what actually happened. Actually, 243 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: that's just reminded me. We had a bit of a 244 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: fail over New Years because there's a trending video on 245 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: TikTok where basically people secretly film themselves giving their brother 246 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: in Laura hug I was hoping we can still do 247 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: this though, well, Dale's. 248 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 2: Not going to listen to this. 249 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna try and do it with Dale, but basically 250 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: we all message. So we were just having a very 251 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: chilled New Years at your place, Kate. You put on 252 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: this really nice barbecue. It did actually end with a 253 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: storm out, not by me, by Amy. Amy is the 254 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: queen of storming out. Well, it was egg on her 255 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: face because so she had made this rocky road and 256 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: she'd made it this really special one that. 257 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: She particularly liked. She was like, very wacky rocky road. 258 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was gummy bears, skittles. I think it may 259 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: have had clinkers in it, and there was something else 260 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: that was random too, but love it. She left the 261 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: whole bowl at my house. Anyway, she stormed off after 262 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: a disagreement nine podcasts. 263 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: Wasn't it. 264 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: We were having some strategy meetings regarding the podcast, which 265 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: is probably is inappropriate to have on New Year's Eve, 266 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: but there was a bit of a storm off anying 267 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 1: that was not what we were actually talking about. We 268 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: were talking though, before we went to your Years, about 269 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: how we have to secretly film me hugging Reese and 270 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: you hugging brand and just to capture the reaction. 271 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 2: We thought it'd be funny. 272 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: It would have been so funny me hugging Brandon because 273 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: we've got this. You know, we were friends first. He 274 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 1: used to be my intern at work. You know, we 275 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: don't hug. You sort of have that not brother sister hate. 276 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: I don't mean like that, but you kind of have 277 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: that banter where you would never actually give him a hug, 278 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: or or the instances that we have the wedding, it 279 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: sort of we make a joke about it. Yeah, But anyway, 280 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: I went to I was about to initiate the hug 281 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: with Reese, and Amy completely blew the whole thing like, 282 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 1: she what. 283 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 2: Do you go doing? 284 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, chause you were indicating to me to record, and 285 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: Amy's like what actually think That sparked the argument when. 286 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 2: If on it. 287 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: Now. The reason we are bringing up this very long 288 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: witted story is because a video that sewey Rag posted 289 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: over the Christmas period went virally got eight point eight 290 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: million views, and it was the brother in law hug. 291 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: So she gave Tommy a very awkward hug whilst they 292 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: were both in Christmas pajamas and one of the top 293 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: comments was Tommy getting nervous in case he cheats again. 294 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: That got thirteen point eight thousand likes. And another comment 295 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: that tickled my fancy with someone saying Tommy's pj's fighting 296 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: for their life because they were very very tight on 297 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: his muscles. That one got over one hundred thousand likes. 298 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: So now I'm very proud of this one. I actually 299 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: predicted that Anna Paul would get canceled in twenty twenty five. 300 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,599 Speaker 1: That was the biggest story of the year. And I 301 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: actually want to throw to what I said because I 302 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: found it quite fascinating. Yeah, on Anna Poul, what do 303 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: we think is going to happen to her this year? 304 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: Because some people on our Instagram question box predicted that 305 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: she would get canceled. I don't think so. I don't 306 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: think anything negative is going to happen to Anna Paul. 307 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: I think she's a breath of fresh air. I think 308 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: she's just going to continue to grow on TikTok. I 309 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: think that she's going to do very well again with 310 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: her business, see Amy. I actually think that this could 311 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 1: be true because the Tigers really turned on Anna pol 312 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: ever since she launched her brand Paulie, because before she 313 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: was literally one of the only influencers who wasn't doing 314 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: any brand deals. She was making money off only fans. 315 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: I actually think that she potentially could shut down only 316 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: fans and focus purely on Paulie because there seems to 317 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: be this moral debate at the moment around hang on. 318 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: You know, people like Anna paul there's such role models 319 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: for young people, but they're on OnlyFans. And we saw 320 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: it at the end of last year when Bonnie Blue 321 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: blew up all over our news because she was going 322 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: to schoolies and promoting the fact that she wanted to 323 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: have sex with just legal god. Anipole's not sharing that 324 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: kind of content, I know, but I do feel like 325 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: we're at a point where people are turning against OnlyFans 326 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: content creat No, I mean I don't think that's the case. 327 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 2: Oh, I actually think. 328 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: That it would be more damaging for Anna Paul's brand 329 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: if she shut down her only fans account. I don't 330 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: want to point out that Amy was like no, no, 331 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: I think she's just going to be as popular as ever. 332 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: She was wrong. I think we forget just the darling 333 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: of TikTok that she was at the time. She really 334 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: could do no wrong. But I think we had it 335 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: also an inkling because tool poppy syndrome is so rife 336 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: in Australia and what does go up always generally comes down. 337 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: Now let's move into our incorrect predictions, because there was 338 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: quite a few of them. So we predicted that Mikayla 339 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: Tester and Maxwell Krause, her fiance, would break off their 340 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: engagement due to issues with Mikayla's US visa. Now, you 341 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: guys were wrong, because they are still very much together. 342 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: In fact, Mikayla has been teasing that the couple are 343 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: trying to get pregnant. They're also in the process of 344 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: trying to relocate to the US, but it does seem 345 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: like there are some issues getting across there based on 346 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: Mikayla's issues before with getting deported. Now getting into the 347 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: next one, you guys were very wrong about this one. 348 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: You predicted that Sky Wheatly Unlocky War were going to 349 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: get engaged, and I think the reason why you guys 350 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: were leaning towards an engagement was I think it was 351 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: last year or the year prior. Sky kept trialing engagement rings, 352 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: so she had to deal with a jewelry brand and 353 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: she would try a new engagement ring every week, so 354 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: it seemed like something was on the horizon. They were 355 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: also talks that Lockie was going to propose to her 356 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: at her thirtieth and she said, please. 357 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: Don't do that. I just want to enjoy my birthday. 358 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: It was also because she was sort of being a 359 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: bit nonchalant about it. Finally, like after that full on 360 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: year where she was basically posting all these clues that 361 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: she wanted Lockie to propose, she then started saying that 362 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: she didn't want to get engaged, and I feel like 363 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: she was kind of playing it off to be like, 364 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: you know, when you say you don't want something, so 365 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: then they do it. I do want to stick up 366 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: for myself though, because I said that they would get 367 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: engaged after going on a couple of breaks. So they 368 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: are currently on a break. They're holidaying together with their kids. 369 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: At the moment, things seem a little bit better between them, 370 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: so who knows there might be an engagement. I think 371 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: over Christmas they seem to be in a better place. 372 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: And Skuy said it had a lot to do with 373 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: the fact that they were on the same page about 374 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: the renovation. So we spoke about it a couple of 375 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: weeks ago how they have completely run out of money 376 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: to pay contractors for their renovation, so they're now having 377 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: to do everything themselves, which does make sense because Lockie 378 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: has a background in building. He had his own company anyway, 379 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: So Skuy said that now they're on the same page, 380 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: it leads to less arguments because they both feel like 381 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: they're putting an equal effort to the house. I mean, 382 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: I'd like to see them get in a better place 383 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: and together classic now. Despite our inbox being flooded at 384 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: the end of last year with listeners predicting that Tammy 385 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: Hembro and matt's Kowski would get divorced this year, on air, 386 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: we said we thought their marriage would last the year. Now, 387 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm not just saying it because we were wrong, but 388 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: off Mike, we agreed with listeners, but we didn't want 389 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: to be too harsh considering that they only just got married. 390 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: But I thought they would get divorced. So you're saying 391 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: that you put out of prediction that you didn't wholeheartedly 392 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: believe in, that you were just trying to be nice. 393 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: Is that what we're reading between the lines here? Yes, 394 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: I did because I felt too mean. There was a 395 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,719 Speaker 1: lot of hate being thrown at Tammy and Matt at 396 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: the time. I think anyone could have seen that this 397 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: marriage wasn't going to last very long. I mean off 398 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: the back of us discussing whether we thought they would 399 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: get divorced, I predicted that Matt would cause a rift 400 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: between Tammy and her sisters. This was clearly going on 401 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: behind the scenes while the pair were together. But since 402 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: the divorce announcement, it seems like it's brought the sisters 403 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: together stronger than ever. They've opened a new supplement brand together. 404 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: In terms of predictions around influencer relationships, you guys predicted 405 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: that Madison Woolley would get engaged to Jonathan Sower. Those 406 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: two are absolutely blasts from the past. I feel like 407 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: they have fallen off the face of the earth in 408 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: terms of the influencer world. I always i can sort 409 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: of do a little bit of a check in on 410 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: Madison Willie's content in my Burner account, because I've set 411 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: up a Burner account to look at influencer's profiles because us. Yeah. Yeah, 412 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: and also I don't want to support them and follow 413 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: them in my own name anyway. But all she seems 414 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: to do at the moment is just post really like 415 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: pretentious photos of her overseas, and I'm like, that's not 416 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: what I want to see of you. I actually think 417 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: she's got a quite cool personality that came through on 418 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: her podcast, like she's quite funny when she takes a 419 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: piece out of herself. Does she still post on YouTube? 420 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: Because I have not watched her content in years, I. 421 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: Actually need to have a look. 422 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 1: I think that she's dropped off there a little bit. Yeah, 423 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: because they've ended their podcast, her and her best friend 424 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,719 Speaker 1: Caitlin Rodriguez, and then they have actually started a content 425 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: creation business where they film weddings and other events, so 426 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: they've been traveling overseas doing that. Maybe that's where we 427 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: got this engagement vibe from. Because she's also converted her 428 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: business twenty third of Madison More into Bridle, where it 429 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: used to be fashion and then she's got this wedding 430 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: content business, and in the middle of the year, to 431 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: promote her content wedding business, she actually did this mock 432 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 1: up wedding shoot with Jonathan and pretended that they were married. Well, also, 433 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 1: her best friend Caitlyn got engaged as well. So generally 434 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: when someone's best friend gets engaged, that's when there's a 435 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: lot of pressure on the boyfriend. I mean, I know 436 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: Jonathan as being Shiny Grimman's boyfriend. 437 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: Of instagram her. They've actually been together for a. 438 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: Very long time now. See, I wouldn't be surprised if 439 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: they got engaged in twenty twenty six, So I reckon 440 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: they've been together since twenty nineteen. Jeez, that's a long time. Yeah, 441 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: they'll either get engaged or break up. I think this 442 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: is a big year for them now. Amy guessed that 443 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: Katia Milan would find God. 444 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 2: She doesn't appear to have found God. 445 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: I mean, she hasn't moved into this sort of Christian 446 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: influencing space. She's not followed in the footsteps of Chloe's 447 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: air p or Sarah's day. At the time, I didn't 448 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: actually agree with that one. Yeah, to me, that one 449 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: didn't really make sense because a lot of influencers who 450 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: find God they have a predominantly US audience because it 451 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: seems to resonate well with them. Her audience seems to 452 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: be predominantly from Australia in the UK. Yeah, well she 453 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 1: lives in the UK at the moment. Now moving on, 454 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: I'm actually very embarrassed because I predicted this one and 455 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: it was completely incorrect. I said that Olivia would break 456 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: up with Hugo and date another Justin look alike. Amy 457 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: actually said that they would be engaged, so she's sort 458 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: of closer to the money. No one had on their 459 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: Bingo card that they would fall pregnant. 460 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 2: I'm shocked that you thought they would break up. 461 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm embarrassed over that one. I think it had 462 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: just sort of fairly come out recently that they were together, 463 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: and you know, she'd been with Morgan Waterhouse for a 464 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: small amount of time. It seemed like she was in 465 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: her dating Europe. Fair enough, fair enough. You also predicted 466 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: that Sammy Robinson would date a mister Big type character, 467 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: which again we've more so seen her fall into her 468 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: regular dating type, which is New Zealand rugby players. Yeah, 469 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: well they've broken up now, so maybe maybe again it 470 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: will be something that will happen in twenty twenty six. 471 00:20:58,720 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 2: Who knows. 472 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: Now, we pretty did that Abbi Chatfield and Adam Hyde 473 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: would get engaged. That hasn't happened, But again I keep 474 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: saying it. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a 475 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six thing. 476 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 2: Have you been. 477 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:14,479 Speaker 1: Surprised by the amount of trolling that Adam Hyde has 478 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: been receiving really just for being Abby Chatfield's boyfriend. No, 479 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised at all. It does seem like the 480 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: trolling of Abbi Chatfield has increased this year and it's 481 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: really getting out of hand. I also think that Adam 482 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: Hyde has had a lot. 483 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 2: Of success this year. 484 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been massive. His song has been massive again 485 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: Tall Poppy syndrome. What goes up must come down. There's 486 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,719 Speaker 1: a lot of piling on when it comes to him. 487 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: The only thing that I did have a bit of 488 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: a chuckle that was that viral video and I actually 489 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: think that they would have laughed. 490 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 2: At that too. 491 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: I mean that guy that pretends to be him, because 492 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: it's not just a one video like he's been doing 493 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: a whole series. Yeah, Yeah, there's been a whole series 494 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: of them that seems to be a bit more lighthearted. 495 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 2: I feel like they'd have a bit of a chuckle 496 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 2: at that one too. 497 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think they'd probably have a problem 498 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: with it, Okay, I don't know if you've seen all 499 00:21:58,960 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: of them. 500 00:21:59,440 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: I've seen. 501 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: I saw one that went really viral and he kept 502 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: doing the dance thing. Yeah, they've gotten a bit nasty though, 503 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: I think. Okay, they're probably taking them maybe a step 504 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: too far. Now, another one of your predictions that you 505 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: got wrong was that Sarah's Day would be pregnant with 506 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: baby number four, and this was after she seemed to 507 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: have a bit of gender disappointment, so she seemed to 508 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: really pin a lot of hope in having a girl. 509 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: That seemed to be maybe why they were going for 510 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: baby number three. She did have a boy called Harlow. Yeah, 511 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: after seeing Sarah's year unfold, I'm not surprised that they 512 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: haven't gone for baby number four because poor Harlow had 513 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: pretty bad reflux and it seemed to impact Sarah's mental 514 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: health quite badly, which was quite open with the fact 515 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: that she suffered from postpartum depression. Now, while we were 516 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 1: incorrect about Sarah being pregnant with baby number four. I 517 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: was correct in saying that she would launch her pregnancy guide, 518 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: so that came out after years of work. Who knew though, 519 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 1: she would have such a quick turnaround and launch the 520 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,239 Speaker 1: five sixty Challenge literally like a couple of months after it. 521 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 2: M it's pretty crazy. Now. 522 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: Another prediction you got wrong was that Mia Plasik would 523 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: start a baby business, so whether that was releasing bone 524 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: broth for babies or Amy's guest was wooden toys. Now, 525 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: this was off the back of Mia posting a lot 526 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: about what her baby ate and how much effort she 527 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: was putting into making sure his food was organic. I 528 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: mean this was because she was overseas at the time 529 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,479 Speaker 1: for her wedding and it looked like a huge ordeal 530 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: to bring all of the puring devices over and ziplocking everything. Well, 531 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: that was incorrect. She hasn't done any of that. On 532 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 1: the topic of food, we said that Michael Finch would 533 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: release a cookbook. He's yet too, but again, I think 534 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: that could happen in twenty twenty six. I think some 535 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: book publishers should reach out to him because I think 536 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: it'd be very, very successful. Oh, I'd buy it now. 537 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: Another one we got wrong was that Indy Clinton's husband 538 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: would become a full time influencer, so we said he 539 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,719 Speaker 1: would leave his full time job to do content creation 540 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: and join Indy on her podcast. Amy actually disagreed with 541 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: me on this one. This was off the back of 542 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: him having issues at work. So we spoke to Indy 543 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: on our podcast and she was very open about the 544 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: fact that some of Ben's colleagues didn't really understand why 545 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: Indy shared so much of their life online. They seem 546 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: to pay it out and it looked like I could 547 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: have been correct because in the new year, he launched 548 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: his own Instagram account and started getting invited to pr events. However, 549 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: he still isn't working full time as a content creator. 550 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: He also randomly posts tiktoks from time to time, which 551 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: seemed to perform really well. They generally are of Indie. 552 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: But no, he is not a full time content creator. 553 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: You guys also incorrectly guessed that Shanny Grimman would get 554 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: engaged to her longtime boyfriend Jacob Tompkins. Yeah, I'm disappointed. 555 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 1: I'd love to see a proposal with Shannie. I mean, 556 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: they've been together for years now. I sound like a 557 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: broken record. But maybe in twenty twenty six. 558 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 2: I want to put out a prediction. 559 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: It's more of a manifestation, but I would like to 560 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: see us get Shanni Grimmon on an episode of Outspoken. 561 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: I need to see it happening. I think she's so shy. Well, 562 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: because she actually reached out to us when we've released 563 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: our Deep Dive series on her a couple of years 564 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: years ago, and she said that she really enjoyed it 565 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: and it actually made her want to post more because 566 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: she was really like reflecting on that time in her 567 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: life and the relationship that she had with her audience. 568 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: So we said, well, Shani, would you come on an episode? 569 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: And she said that she would love to, but she 570 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: just almost is too shy to do it. 571 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 2: Really sounded like. 572 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I mean I've met her years ago now, 573 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: probably eight years ago randomly at the airport, and I 574 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: know OG listeners will remember this story, but I was 575 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: there for work and I spotted her in Chloe's epp 576 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: and Chloe Zepp actually kindly took the photo. I wasn't 577 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: sort of as big on her at the time, like 578 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, Dan, why did I not get Chloe 579 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: and Shani in the photo? That would have been iconic, 580 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: but she came across very shy and softly spoken. I 581 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: think anyone who has grown up watching her content will 582 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: know that about her too. She's very confident in front 583 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: of a camera, but I think when you get her 584 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: in a group setting, she is very shy. Now, the 585 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: last prediction that you guys got incorrect was that Sophie 586 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: Gwidlin would get married again. Yeah, that was wrong. I 587 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: mean I can see why we predicted it. 588 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 2: How many marriages was she up to? 589 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 1: Was it three or four? Well, we're still unsure if 590 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: the fourth was actually a verified one. She was wearing 591 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: a wedding ring. However, they've now split. I mean we've 592 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: since been blocked from Sophie Gweedland. So you know, if 593 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: she does anything outrageous, please scream, record it and send 594 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: it to us to report on in our next episode. 595 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 1: We are going to be making predictions for twenty twenty six. 596 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: Maybe we need to make a list of predictions of 597 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: influencers who are going to block us. Well, there's already 598 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 1: a really long list of them. I'm hoping it's not Tammy. 599 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: I'm surprised she hasn't blocked us to be on it. 600 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: I think Tammy is smart enough to know that it's 601 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: all good pr for her. True. She loves to antagonize 602 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: her audience and she loves to be spoken about because 603 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: it ultimately means that people are still interested in her life. 604 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 2: They're still going to be paying a bills. 605 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that is where we're going to leave it today, 606 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: but we will be back in your years on Friday 607 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: with our twenty twenty six influencer predictions. I'm very excited 608 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 1: about that. We put up a question box last year 609 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: asking for people to send in their predictions and there 610 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: were some hilarious ones that we will be sharing on 611 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: the show. That is all we have time for, though. 612 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. If you have 613 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: enjoyed today's show, I would love to see where you 614 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: are listening to today's episode from Are you away at 615 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: the moment? 616 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 2: Are you on a walk? Are you back at work? 617 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: Please tag us in all of your stories. Yeah, we 618 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: would love that. 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