1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: On today's show, Sarah's Day rages over the pronunciation of 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: a designer brand, Steph glare Smith's uncomfortably honest toddler rant 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley wants to know why she's losing followers, and 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro ramps up her wedding prep. 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: Hello, I'm welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: Kate Torber, and I'm in that awkward stage of pregnancy 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: where my clothes aren't starting to fit. I am currently 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: living in Lula Lemon Alion tights, and to be honest, 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: it's not really that far off what I normally wear. 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: Now, I was gonna say that is your regular go 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: to outfit. I think what's interesting about you is that 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: you don't necessarily want to wear maternity clothes. 14 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 15 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: Well, it just seems silly investing in these pieces of 16 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: clothing that I'm only going to wear once or twice 17 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: if I do get pregnant again. And I had a 18 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: really depressing shop with mum the other day, so I 19 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: made the effort. I tried on heaps of clothes and 20 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: nothing looked good and nothing was right, and you know, 21 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: when you leave feeling really deflated. So I put a 22 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: post in our Facebook community and I just wanted to 23 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: thank everyone. They were so helpful. Everyone was sending in 24 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: their tips of what to do, so for other pregnant 25 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: women out there, I thought I would share them because 26 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: I found it super helpful. So the general consensus was 27 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: that if you do want to buy maternity clothes, only 28 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: to invest in a few different options, maybe work pants 29 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: or jeans. And everyone else was saying, you can live 30 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: in your Lulu Lemon tights up until you give birth. 31 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: Basically they stretch really well, which was a big tick 32 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 2: for me. And the other thing that was really helpful 33 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 2: was everyone was saying that they just size up in 34 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 2: flowy clothing. So I'm not really a dress person, but 35 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 2: I think I'm going to have to start wearing a 36 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 2: lot of floey summary dresses pretty soon. 37 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: It is funny because when you announced that you were pregnant, 38 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: somehow selfishly, I started thinking about my own wardrobe and was, well, like, you, no, 39 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: and what I might wear if I were pregnant, And 40 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: I thought, oh, you kind of want to look a 41 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: bit more sophisticated, you know, And some are like usually 42 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: I get around in denim shorts and you know, little tops. 43 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, maybe I'll have to start wearing 44 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: dresses and being a bit more mature, so not like 45 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: a teen pregnancy. Yeah, I don't want to have a 46 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: teen pregnancy vibe. But you know, see, I thought I 47 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: was set for summer with some nice new denim shorts 48 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: and a bunch of singlers, but they're really not fitting 49 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: at the moment. We had a bit of a scare 50 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: late last week when you finally tried on my bride'smaid's dress. 51 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 3: Yeah. 52 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: I probably shouldn't have left it to a Friday night 53 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 2: when I'd just eaten Thaire food because I was in 54 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: such a panic. 55 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: It would not zip up. Reese was trying to help 56 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: me get it to go up. It was literally so tight. 57 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: I finally did get it up, but I was like, 58 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: I don't think I can wear a bra under this 59 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: or potentially eat at your wedding. So I had this 60 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: massive freak out and I googled the shop and I 61 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: was like, surely I can just order you in a 62 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: size up. Unfortunately, they're all out of sizes of that size. 63 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 2: So I was like, fuck, how am I going to 64 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: make this work. My message mum or mum was stressing. 65 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 2: I didn't want to stress you out. Fortunately, the next 66 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: morning I tried the dress on and because I wasn't 67 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: so bloated. 68 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 4: From eating, it zipped up. 69 00:02:58,200 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 5: Well. 70 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,399 Speaker 1: I did think you were being a bit optimistic having 71 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: your regular size when you are almost four months pregnant. 72 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: Even looking at you now, your laptop is sort of 73 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: perched on your little belly. 74 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 3: I don't know. 75 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 4: You just look you're just. 76 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: Looking to speaking to us. Yeah, you're you're starting to 77 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: pop at the moment. 78 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: Well, I hope I have popped enough to fit into 79 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 2: the dress by Amy's wedding, but then actually look pregnant. 80 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: Well, it's got like a little bit of give to it. 81 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: I actually think it's a great dress for someone who 82 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: is pregnant. Is this the first time I'm going to 83 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: be seeing Kate in Amy's wedding photos. Your little holding 84 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: of the bump is that going to be your go 85 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: to post? 86 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I said Teresa, I'm going to be holding my 87 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: stomach a lot to make sure people know that I'm 88 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: the pregnant triplet. 89 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 4: Well, there is. 90 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: We're having pasta for the wedding as well, so that's 91 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: dangerous now maybe we need some pants on standby, just 92 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: some trackies. That's a tough thing for Amy and I though, 93 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: because being triplets, people often confuse you. And on Christmas Day, Amy, 94 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: you got confused by one of our aunties. I did 95 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: come up and congratulate you, and you have to be like, 96 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: I'm not actually pregnant. 97 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 4: That was a little bit awkward. 98 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: I think it was because my uncle had come up 99 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: to us and he was comparing Kate and my stomach. 100 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: So he's a doctor, so he was anyway, it was 101 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: quite medical the way he was doing it, and as 102 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: she walked in, he was touching my stomach. 103 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 4: I can see how should go. 104 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: I did love how he was also comparing whose cheeks 105 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: were flush. But I had so much makeup on, so 106 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: much blushing that I'm like, h I think that might 107 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: be it. 108 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 6: The amount of people, the amount of dms. 109 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 7: I just got a people saying il you did not 110 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 7: just say lowy. It would tell me you just didn't 111 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 7: say lowy. 112 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: It may be a new year, but Sarah's days designer 113 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: accessories and making headlines again. This time it's her designer bag. 114 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 2: So on Sunday night, she shared the outfit she was 115 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 2: wearing to a girl's night out to her followers on 116 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 2: her Instagram story, and as she was going through the 117 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: outfit details, she asked her followers which designer bag she 118 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 2: should take with her. However, her pronunciation of one designer 119 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 2: name stumped her followers. 120 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 8: The look of this one option one the Lowe bag, 121 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 8: but I just. 122 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: Feel like it's a little bit excessive. 123 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 2: Now the Brandon question is a Spanish design house, which 124 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,559 Speaker 2: is actually pronounced like this lower they now to be honest, 125 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: I didn't know how to pronounce this bag's name, so 126 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: I didn't want to mess it up. 127 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: Now. 128 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: While on her night out, Sarah's inbox was flooded with 129 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: followers correcting her pronunciation, and upon returning home, Sarah let 130 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 2: loose on her followers. Let's throw to what she said, literally. 131 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 4: Shut up, shut op. 132 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 7: Okay. 133 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 8: I just came home from dinner and I was just 134 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 8: checking my DMS. 135 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 6: The amount of people, the amount. 136 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 7: Of dms I just got of people saying, IW, you 137 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 7: did not just say Lowe. It would tell me you 138 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 7: just didn't say Lowe. 139 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 6: First of all, yes I did. 140 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: I said Lowe. 141 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 6: Second of all, I don't appreciate the sass. 142 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 8: Okay, there is a loving and kind way to correct somebody. 143 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 8: You will learn that when you're a mother and you 144 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 8: try raising children. Agay, there's a kind way to correct someone. 145 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 8: And yes, I said Loe, here's. 146 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 6: The thing until you until you run into someone who goes, oh, 147 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 6: that's not how you say it, like you know, like 148 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 6: Moe and Moette, Like, yes, I said lowe, apparently it's 149 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 6: lower ay, how would I know it's lower a? 150 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 7: And again, I want to say things correctly like that brand. 151 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 6: I still don't even know how to say. 152 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 7: It, like Jack jacka moose, Jack May Jack of Moose. 153 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 4: If you know what brand I'm talking about, then, like 154 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 4: you know, but like. 155 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 5: Why would I think this isn't lowe or lower? Why 156 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 5: would I think this is lower ay? And I'm not 157 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 5: the kind of person who's going to google how to 158 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 5: say Bobby, Like that's just not in my DNA. 159 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 6: I just would never do that, Like. 160 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 8: I just read something and I just like call it 161 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 8: what it is. 162 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 6: Like I just don't. I don't. I'm not an overthinker. 163 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 8: I'm like an underthinker in that way. 164 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 7: So oh, yeah, there's a way to go about teaching people. 165 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 7: And it's not dming saying eh, you did not just say. 166 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 8: LOI yeah, I did, Okay, I'm sorry rude. 167 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: Now, as this is an audio medium, I do want 168 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: to point out that at the beginning, Sarah smashed her 169 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: fist into her other hand and she looked irate. Her 170 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: movement was very over exaggerated and aggressive. She is very 171 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: over exaggerated in a lot of her stories, particularly when 172 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: she knows a story is going to be viewed by 173 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: a lot. 174 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: Of people, but this was next level. 175 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: I was thinking, has she had too many wines at 176 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: dinner because her reaction was just not normal. It was 177 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: so aggressive and unnecessary. And what really stood out to 178 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 2: me the most was she was ranting about the loving 179 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: and kind way people should correct others, but she was 180 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: correcting people on how to correct her in an extremely 181 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: aggressive way. 182 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: From the other side of things. To be completely transparent, 183 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: we do often get people saying, oh, you've pronounced this wrong. 184 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: It's not like that, and I think it sometimes you 185 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: just need to take it on board, particularly when it 186 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: is a really bad mispronunciation. But at the same time, 187 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: I can get a bit funny and think, oh, a 188 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: little bit offended and think I'm trying my best. So 189 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: it does depend how it's said though, because some people 190 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,679 Speaker 1: will message and they'll be like, I love your podcast 191 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: and I just wanted to let you know this, and 192 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: then other people get really irate about the mispronunciation. 193 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: I hate when people like I thought you guys were 194 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: journalists and you can't pronounce this like I understand. 195 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: It's really frustrating when people say it in a rude way. 196 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: But then I wouldn't go jump on my stories and 197 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 2: then be rude back, because that's incredibly hypocritical. And I 198 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: do hate when people like Sarah play that as a 199 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: mother card, because she was saying, oh, as a mother, 200 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: I've learned to be loving and kind in the way 201 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 2: that I share feedback, but then she was incredibly aggressive 202 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: when she tried to correct people. It's very hypocritical as well, 203 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: because we've been on the receiving end of Sarah not 204 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: listening to one of our podcasts, jumping to conclusions and 205 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 2: thinking we said something we didn't. We copped a rather 206 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: i rate message from her that wasn't particularly polite, and 207 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 2: once we pointed out that she'd actually got the information wrong, 208 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: we received no response back. So it is a bit 209 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: hypocritical to expect something from your followers and then act 210 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: a completely different way. On the other side of things 211 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: as well, when you are listening to a podcast or 212 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: an Instagram story and someone does get a word really wrong, 213 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 2: it is also infuriating. 214 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: I see red. It's so annoying, so I can also 215 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: understand the criticism leveled at someone. At the same time, 216 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: I think there's a bit of snobbery around it, though, 217 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: in terms of everyone saying, oh, you should get that 218 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: right because you've bought that designer bag, you should actually 219 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: know how to pronounce that brand, And then that a 220 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: weird one because just because someone is cashed up, it 221 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean that they are cultured enough to know 222 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: fancy brands, particularly when they are Spanish words or French works. 223 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 4: Yep. 224 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 2: But if you're dropping so people have to crunch the 225 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: sums on this bag and it ranges from between sixteen 226 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 2: hundred and two two hundred and fifty depending on the 227 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: size of the bag you get. If I was going 228 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,599 Speaker 2: to drop that sort of coin on a bag, I 229 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: think I'd learned how to pronounce the designers, not why 230 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: to google why. That's the issue that people have that 231 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: it comes across as a bit nuva rech a bit 232 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 2: Bogan when you can't pronounce it. I've had people go, oh, 233 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: this Lewis Vatono, you know when you hear that and 234 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: you're like, you have no idea about this brand. Sarah 235 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: did say that she's not the type of person to 236 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 2: google how something's pronounced, and then she also said that 237 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 2: she's not an overthinker. I'm an underthinker in that way. 238 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 4: A'd bit awkward. 239 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: It is a pretty accurate description because when it comes 240 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: to some of her recent scandals, she has underthought a 241 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: lot of those and probably not been on the front 242 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: foot from a pr perspective. 243 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: It's weird though, because she puts herself on this pedestal 244 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: of someone that researches into a lot of health things. 245 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: But it's weird that when it comes to money, she 246 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 2: doesn't want to research how to actually pronounce the name 247 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: of a designer item that she has bort. 248 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: It was a little bit confusing afterwards because then she 249 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: shared a bunch of other brands that she also couldn't 250 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: pronounce to point out how difficult pronunciation is. 251 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,599 Speaker 2: It was weird because I thought she was going to 252 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: share a poll, but she was like, well, how does 253 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: everyone pronounce this this? 254 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 4: Or that no one could actually respond. 255 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, is anyone actually pronouncing to Cuba Dijuba? 256 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 3: Oh? 257 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. 258 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 4: I don't know where she got that one. 259 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: Actually, I it took me years to learn how to 260 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: pronounce that brand properly. 261 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: I want to know how do people pronounce Kokai? Because 262 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 2: we say Kokai, but I've noticed people say ku kai, like. 263 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 4: Are we wrong? 264 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,479 Speaker 1: I think that she saw this as a huge opportunity, 265 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: though for engagement. I think that she overacts, you know, 266 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: pretending that she's really enraged about something. See. I don't 267 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: think she was pretending at all. I think it was 268 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: pretty legit. 269 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: I think she'd been on the wines with her friends 270 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 2: at a girl's night out, got back, was like fuck 271 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 2: this and just let loose. 272 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: Do you think she ever wakes up in the morning 273 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: and sees those stories and goes, fuck, maybe I should 274 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: take that down. Or maybe even Kurt wakes up and 275 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: he's like, oh, I didn't realize this was all going 276 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 1: on while I'm asleep. 277 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 2: I wanted to know where her kids were when she 278 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: was going on this ramp because she was quite loud. 279 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: I have to out myself here and make myself sound 280 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: like a Bogain. I also thought that the designer Brown 281 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: was low. 282 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: Good morning everyone, It's only early days in January, and 283 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: Sky Wheatley is on the cusp of getting canceled again. Amy, 284 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: you did predict Sky's cancelation in your twenty twenty four 285 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,239 Speaker 2: New Year's predictions. 286 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: I did, and remember I also predicted that Lily Brown 287 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: and her partner would get engaged, and there were rumors 288 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: about that. 289 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that one still is unsure. That one's got 290 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: a question mark over it. Now there is a bit 291 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 2: to get through, so let's unpack it in a chronological order. 292 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 2: So I really thought this was a thing of the past, 293 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: but Sky Wheatley joked to her followers that she was pregnant. 294 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 2: So on her Instagram story, she shared a photo of 295 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 2: herself wearing a tight dress, posing in a way that 296 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 2: accentuated her stomach, and she wrote been keeping a secret 297 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 2: with a shushing emoji. She then followed it up by 298 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 2: another photo of her in the same spot cheersing a 299 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: drink with the caption hahaha jokes as if sis, did 300 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 2: you notice in the first photo where it looked like 301 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 2: she had a pregnancy bump. The alcoholic drink was also visible. 302 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 2: I wonder if that was purposely done to generate rage 303 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: as well. What was the time between these two stories 304 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 2: going on. I think it was pretty instantaneous, But it's 305 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 2: likely that she did post these stories because some of 306 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 2: her followers have been commenting that they were expecting her 307 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 2: to have a third baby in twenty twenty four after 308 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 2: her family holiday to Fiji. So Sky and her boyfriend Locki, 309 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,119 Speaker 2: and the two kids, Forest and Bear have been holidaying 310 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 2: on the tropical island over Christmas, and Sky had been 311 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: sharing some really loved up photos with Locki, including a 312 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: series of photos that she captioned Island baby series continues 313 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 2: that is just such an attention seeking caption now, as usual, 314 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 2: she doesn't really seem to understand the power that her 315 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 2: words have. Instead, she tried to make herself the victim 316 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 2: in this scenario, sharing a photo of her and Locki 317 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: with the caption. Wanted to share a funny caption, but 318 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 2: the old me has learned that the world is a 319 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 2: sensitive place. She also responded to a comment during an 320 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: Instagram and asking if she will be having any more 321 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: kids by saying, after the amount of shits we've had 322 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: to change over the last week, it's a hard no. Sorry, 323 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: guys shows over now. People were quick to call her 324 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 2: out in the comments, though One person wrote girlfriend joking 325 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: about pregnancy has been a no go zone. Not sensitive, 326 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: just compassionate of others, which got one hundred and fifteen likes. 327 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: Someone else replied, it's actually gross how fucking sensitive people 328 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: are these days? Who gives a fuck about her joking 329 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 2: if she was pregnant. The joke was that she wouldn't 330 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: be pregnant again. She has two wild boys. Don't blame her. 331 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: You people are fucking wild. Do something better with your 332 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: time than getting offended by someone's joke. 333 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 3: Now. 334 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: That comment surprisingly had one hundred and eighty likes. 335 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: I think it's quite reflective of the people that actually 336 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: support Sky. 337 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, we have been speaking about this in recent podcasts 338 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: that there seems to be now a formula which most 339 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: pregnant influencers follow where they have to add a trigger 340 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: warning and then also talk about pregnancy loss, and there 341 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: is a lot of sensitivity around this, so it is 342 00:14:59,120 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: really jar. 343 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 2: It just feels like her views are so outdated and 344 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 2: that she's stuck in the early two thousands. I mean, 345 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: it's not new information that people struggle with fertility, and 346 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 2: it's an extremely painful and real battle. So I just 347 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 2: I'm so sick of her constantly putting her foot in 348 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: it all the time. It's literally groundhog Day. Now it 349 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: does seem like her problematic behavior may actually have started 350 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 2: to affect her following, because on Friday, Sky shared a 351 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 2: screenshot of her Instagram follow account and wrote, okay, elephant 352 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 2: in the room here, the weekly followers are dropping. Been 353 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 2: happening since two thousand and two, so all g I'm 354 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: thinking she might mean twenty twenty. 355 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 4: Anyway. 356 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: She went on to say, I'm just confused. I'm so 357 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: awesomely great. I don't know why anyone would unfollow me 358 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: with laughing faces. I did meet a lady at the 359 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: shot once and she stopped me and said, you're so beautiful. 360 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: I love you, but I can't. 361 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: Follow you because you're too hot, but I love your work. 362 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, haha, okay, fair enough. I don't want to 363 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 2: follow people that make me feel like shit either, hah. 364 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: But guys tell me if I'm doing something wrong. Also 365 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 2: convince my account is rigged, because yeah, like I said, 366 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: I reckon, I'm pretty awesome and so is my family. 367 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't even comprehend that she would 368 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 2: write this. It's sort of like, it's fairly obvious that 369 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 2: the reason that people are unfollowing you is because you 370 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 2: are completely offensive and controversial. 371 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: You keep saying dumb shit and never learning from it. 372 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: But now it's because you think that you're too hot, 373 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: So the general public to want to follow you is 374 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: clearly joking around. 375 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 4: Not about the hot thing. 376 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think this is why some people 377 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: choose to follow Sky because they love the fact that 378 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: she's dropped that comment about apparently her being too hot, 379 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: and she's clearly joking about I'm so awesome in my family. 380 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 2: So I don't think she's joking about the too hot comment. 381 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: I genuinely think that she thinks that's the reason her 382 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 2: followers are dropping off. It just shows how she has 383 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: literally zero idea about how problematic her behavior is and 384 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 2: that people are over it. I mean, I've unfollowed her 385 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 2: because of her problematic behavior. 386 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 4: Now. 387 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: The worst bit is she asked her followers a question, 388 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 2: and then when people started sending in why they had 389 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: unfollowed her, she shared their responses with a smart ass 390 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 2: comment back. So one person said they unfollowed her because 391 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 2: she was too self obsessed, and she said her account 392 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: was no different to anyone else's, so it couldn't be that. 393 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: Another person said that they enjoyed her content but wanted 394 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: less promotion and more of her, to which she responded, okay, yes, perfect, 395 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 2: I'll sell the house and move us all into a tent. 396 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 2: I'll quit my job and what I love doing cool noted, 397 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 2: Thank you guys, this is really helpful. Now, someone did 398 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: hit the nail on the head and said it's because 399 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 2: she's problematic, and Ski replied, this, haha, so true. But 400 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 2: I'm trying not to be problematic because I don't want 401 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 2: to hurt people's feelings. But I guess I am just 402 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 2: unhinged and was born that way. 403 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 4: Haha. 404 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: It's kind of like asking for a performance report from 405 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: your boss and then getting your back up when they 406 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: actually tell you what you're doing wrong. Well, why did 407 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: she have to share them? 408 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: Like, if she genuinely wanted to tell she could have 409 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 2: just kept them to herself. Now, Ski did take one 410 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 2: piece of advice on board, which was to share more 411 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 2: day in the life content on her stories. However, that 412 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 2: kind of backfired on her, so the next day she 413 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 2: updated her followers that her, Lucky and their two kids 414 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: were off to meet some friends at a kid's play center. 415 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 2: There was one problem, though, let's throw to what happened. 416 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 9: Lucky is like an actual snail. Don't I tell them 417 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 9: what's going on? Sweetie? Going on? Hans? 418 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: Literally, I had the runs and you think it's absolutely hilarious. 419 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 4: And all you've done is just put me down the 420 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 4: whole time. 421 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 9: I've been cleaning, doing all the kids start packing lunches, 422 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 9: making dinners. I've allowed you to rest, but sometimes as 423 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 9: a parent whom I sick, we don't get to rest 424 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 9: with that together next time. 425 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 4: Okay, you've got diarrhea. 426 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 5: If you were, it's the same thing. It's do you 427 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 5: not understand the doctor? 428 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: Now know what's worse? 429 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: The way the Sky dismissed Lockie's feelings and shared his 430 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: illness as content, all the fact that they proceeded to 431 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: go to the Kid's place center while Lockie had gastrack 432 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 2: that seems like a recipe for disaster. 433 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: It's so terrible that this actually makes me want to 434 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: follow her content because it's a lot more entertaining. Exactly. 435 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: Everyone kind of wants to see her being a bit 436 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: of a train wreck. It is like seeing a car 437 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: crash and not being able to look away. And I 438 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: do really love Sky and Lockey's dynamic because they're not 439 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: that couple that's trying to be a couple goals. They're 440 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: just relatable having arguments. I mean, I do think that 441 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: she was quite unfair on him, because I think if 442 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: roles were reversed and she was sick and if he 443 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: had that tone with her, there would have been a 444 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: lot of judgement. 445 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 4: I just agree Sophie. 446 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 2: I find their relationship incredibly toxic. I feel like he 447 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: does not want to be there. He literally looked so unhappy. 448 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: Why would you ever post that story? 449 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 4: It was so old. 450 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: I think that's to be unfair to say he doesn't 451 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: want to be there. I think that's just the reality 452 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: of being in a long term relationship and having. 453 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 4: A hating each other. Well, I don't think that they. 454 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: Hate each other. I think it was a bit of banter. 455 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: They both knew that the camera was on. 456 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 4: I don't think it was banter on his end. I 457 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 4: think that he was miserable in that situation. 458 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: It does open their relationship up to be talked about, though, 459 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: because I saw a lot of people who were commenting 460 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: saying like he actually hates her and he must be 461 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: regretting his decisions, which was extremely mean. But as I said, 462 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: this kind of content does open herself up to that kind. 463 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 4: Of Cris's engagement. 464 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 2: I suppose some people talking about her. Did anyone keep 465 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 2: an eye on their Fiji trip, because it actually gave 466 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: me a massive ick. I mean, it did seem like 467 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 2: Locke and Sky were getting along a lot better, but 468 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 2: by the looks of it, they just spent the whole 469 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 2: time sun baking, and just Sky would not referencing Locke's tan. 470 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 2: She kept talking about how great his face hand was. 471 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 2: It just again seemed very outdated. 472 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: All I could think about when I looked at her 473 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,479 Speaker 1: TikTok and basically there were all these tiktoks of her 474 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: and Lockey miming out at the resort. It was in 475 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: front of people, and I thought, oh my god, this 476 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: would have been the best people watching. Can you imagine 477 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: people's faces? And her two kids kept giving the. 478 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 2: Finger and all that didn't where He literally was like 479 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: dry humping her at the resort, and I was like, 480 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 2: he's filming this. And then I saw another outtake of 481 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: a video where clearly her kids are filming it because 482 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 2: one kid like dropped the phone and it was I 483 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 2: was just like, what is going on? 484 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: My pet pave is when people give the finger like 485 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: if it's an influencer all their kids, Like, I just 486 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: think that that's so tacky. 487 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,719 Speaker 2: It is tacky, and I think a lot of people 488 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 2: don't know how to feel about the content that Sky 489 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 2: is sharing with her kids in it, because it does 490 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 2: get her a lot of views. Because for those who 491 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 2: haven't seen it, she's been sharing on TikTok her kid's tantrum. 492 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 2: So she'll take them to the shops and it's almost 493 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 2: like she sets them up to have a tantrum and 494 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: then she'll just like buy them the clothes that they 495 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 2: want or the thing that they're fussing over. 496 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: It it's probably why they're having the tantrum. Is this 497 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: the thing on TikTok? Is it just kids tantrums? 498 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 3: Now? 499 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 4: Yes, I think it's like a parenting thing. 500 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: Maybe it just makes you feel better about all, like 501 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: relate to. 502 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 4: That person's life. 503 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: I did look at Social Blade because I wanted to 504 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: know how many followers Sky was actually losing, and when 505 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: we spoke about her last year, she had around the 506 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: seven hundred thousand follower mark. It is now down to 507 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: six hundred and twenty thousand, so that is a drastic 508 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: drop in followers. Over the last thirty days, she has 509 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: lost two than one hundred and ninety followers, and on Friday, 510 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: when she put her story up, she lost one hundred 511 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: and eighty seven. It will be interesting to see if 512 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: that number continues to drop. 513 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:19,959 Speaker 4: She's truly worried about it. 514 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: But then again, I don't know why she would highlight 515 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 2: it to people and brands that she is losing followers. 516 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: Now, that's what I was really shocked about, because usually 517 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: you want to put your best foot forward, particularly if 518 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: you are using your platform, as she said to followers, 519 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: as a way to keep a roof over her head. 520 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: So I recently made my sister's bridesmaids foxes, so it 521 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: was me asking them to be my bridesmaids. Tammy Hembro 522 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: is currently deep in wedding prep. Less than a month 523 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: after getting engaged to Love Island's Matt Szukowski, she has 524 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: already selected her bridesmaids now. She proposed to them in 525 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: an intimate lunch at her favorite restaurant, Rais in Byron 526 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: Bay and it looks like it is an all FA affairs. 527 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: So she asked her four sisters Amy, Emily, Starlet and 528 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: Ava to be in her bridal party. 529 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 2: Now Amy was picked as the top job, so she 530 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 2: is made of honor. Do you think they've all had 531 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: it shared around with her three engagements so like, oh 532 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 2: one time Emily? Or do you think it's always been Amy? 533 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 2: She did cop a couple of those comments, Kate. Someone 534 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 2: did write under her post will you be my bridesmaid 535 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: for a third time? 536 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: People are just so mean to her. I wonder if 537 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: she did get to the stage with her other engagements 538 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: where she was actually choosing bridesmaids, because I don't think 539 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: I saw any content around that. Yeah, this seems to 540 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: be the most serious proposal out of all of them, 541 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: and I think it is because she has something to prove. 542 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 2: Well, maybe it wasn't really a thing when Reese Hawkins proposed, 543 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 2: because I know bride talk is massive and it's quite 544 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 2: clear that Tammy is deep in that world. I know 545 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 2: you guys are because your wedding, I mean your Amy, 546 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: your weddings in a. 547 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 4: Couple of days. 548 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: Well, I love it because she is proving that bridesmaid's 549 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: proposal boxes are still cool because when I did them, 550 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: I felt like there was a little bit of two camps. 551 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: Either people thought they were a bit naff or other 552 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: people were really passionate about them. 553 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 2: Because it was a lot of changes because Tammy's done well. 554 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: But to me, like she is probably going to be 555 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: dictating a lot of wedding trends going forward because she 556 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: does have such a huge platform. 557 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 4: Well that's if the wedding goes ahead. 558 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean I personally think, but bridesmaid's proposal 559 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,959 Speaker 1: boxes are a really special way to surprise your friends 560 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: and kind of create excitement around your day. 561 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 2: It is, but they are a really expensive thing to 562 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 2: invest in as well. I mean, Tammy's box was. 563 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: Full of a lot of good stuff. I was so 564 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: nosy I wanted to know every single item that was 565 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: in her box because I saw so many I did 566 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: see so many photos on Instagram, but I wanted a 567 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: better look inside. And I think that Tammy knew this 568 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: because she created a whole TikTok video showing how she 569 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: created her proposal box. Of course she did. Was it 570 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: sponsored well, there were no disclaimers, but she did go 571 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: into very explicit detail about each item, which led a 572 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: lot of people in the comment section to say, hey, 573 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: is this sponsored? So she did op for the custom 574 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: boxes with their bridesmaids' names on them, and they were 575 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: too small so she couldn't fit all of the presents inside. 576 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: She did give a little hint about what to expect 577 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: in terms of her wedding theme though, because she gifted 578 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,719 Speaker 1: all of her sisters black oversized silk pajamas which were 579 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: from Homebody. She also said they will be wearing them 580 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: the night before the wedding, So obviously I'm thinking she 581 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: might be having black bridesmaid dresses, which is very popular 582 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: at the moment. 583 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can see that. 584 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: She also gifted her bridesmaids a road lip gloss set, 585 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: which you can't even get shipped to Australia, so she 586 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: had to send it to a house in America and 587 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: then get shipped there. I did like how she said, oh, yeah, 588 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: she got it shipped to a house in America. Plot twist. 589 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: Did she get it sent to London's house? Maybe they're 590 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,479 Speaker 1: friends now after the whole breakup. Who knows, She's got 591 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: a lot of friends in the US. Maybe Tiger or 592 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: the Kutashians. Maybe they helped out who knows someone who's 593 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: going to steal that and put that in the Daily Mail. 594 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 4: Now. 595 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: She also bought her bridesmaids a brush set with a 596 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: claw clip and a smoothing balm, as well as now, 597 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to pronounce this name, as Sarah's Day 598 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: would say, a loey candle. 599 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 4: And bar soap, so the brand of the moment. 600 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,239 Speaker 1: That is so funny because when I was putting this 601 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: segment together, I actually thought, fuck, I don't want to 602 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: pronounce this brand's name because I have no idea. Thank 603 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: you Sarah's Day for bringing it to my attention. I 604 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: love how none of us have actually had the balls 605 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: to pronounce today. Is it just me? Or I'm kind 606 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: of surprised because that is really lovely for a normal 607 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: bridesmaid proposal, but because it's Tammy Hembro, I thought it 608 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: would be even more extremely well amy. She also got 609 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: them a bottle of Moei with their names engraved on it. 610 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 1: And because I also wanted to know the cost of 611 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: some of these luxury items, I have itemized them for you, 612 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: and you might be surprised at how much these bridesmaid 613 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: boxes actually cost. So the pgs were ninety dollars. That's fine, 614 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: lip gloss sixteen dollars. Not sure about the extra postage. 615 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: The brush set was one hundred and fourteen and I 616 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: was shocked to discover that the candles, not pronouncing their 617 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: name was one hundred and seventy dollars each, whilst a 618 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: bar of soap was ninety. I'd rather just get a 619 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: glasshouse candle to be on me too, I love a 620 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: glasshouse candle. And the momie was around sixty five. Not 621 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: sure what it costs for engraving. So all up she 622 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: spent five hundred and forty five dollars on each box. 623 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: So when you multiply that by the four bridesmaids, that's 624 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: two thousand, one hundred and eighty just on the boxes. 625 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how much the actual lunch cost. I'm 626 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: sure she shouted them that there was also a lot 627 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: of beautiful flowers there, so it would have been a 628 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: very costly exercise. She is worth like thirty five million dollars. 629 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I have seen a lot of these bridesmaid's proposals, 630 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: usually from American brides, and they are fucked like they 631 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: have Chanelle jewelry and all this design stuff, so this 632 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: one is like impressive, but more attainable. And I think 633 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: that's why people either love them or hate them, because 634 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: some of those tiktoks, especially the American ones, there's such 635 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: a wank fest. Oh they really are, and it makes 636 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: you feel really deflated because as much as you would 637 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: love to spoil your friends with something of a similar value, 638 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: it's just not feasible. That's why I really enjoyed seeing 639 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: the bridesmaid's proposal boxes that were created by regular people 640 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: and on a budget. Now news dot com is calling 641 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: this Tammy Hembro's latest move in her mad dash to 642 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: get married, and the article highlighted this so called concern 643 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: from her followers about the rapid pace of their relationship, 644 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: and it included yeah, and it included comments such as, 645 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 1: she just wants to prove everyone wrong about her engagement 646 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: with a speedy wedding. She's really desperate. And then there 647 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: was another comment, this seems so soon after just getting engaged, 648 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: when is the wedding? Another said, it's getting serious. Seems 649 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: like they're in a hurry. Look. 650 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: I don't think those comments deserved full article, but there 651 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 2: is a bit of truth in them. From a biastander perspective, 652 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 2: You're like, Wow, this is going really quickly. I mean, 653 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 2: Tammy hasn't shared when her wedding day is. Maybe she's 654 00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 2: just getting ultra organized. 655 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: They haven't specified the date. But this wedding is happening 656 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: this year, and as much as there is a lot 657 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: of skepticism around it, I'm really enjoying the wedding content 658 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: and I am eager to see whether she does align 659 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: herself with a large Australian wedding brand, maybe an American 660 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: wedding brand. We might be seeing her at Vira Wang 661 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: alongside m Dabies. I don't think she'd be at palascatur No, 662 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: definitely not. They are getting a really bad rap at 663 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: the moment. Everyone is hating on. Do you reckon? Matt's 664 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: going to start putting out content too, because I want 665 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: to see his groomsman boxing. Yeah. Well, he has been 666 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: talking a lot about the negative reaction that he and 667 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: Tammy have been receiving about their proposal on his podcast, 668 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: and it is interesting to hear things from his point 669 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: of view because I do think it's really wrong how 670 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: people are using the fact that he is infertile against him. 671 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 4: It's really gross. 672 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: I think that people can be shocked about how quickly 673 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: this relationship is moving. But when you're talking about fertility, 674 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: I mean if it was flipped and someone was talking 675 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: about a woman's fertility like they have with Matts, I 676 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: think people would be getting up in arms about it. 677 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 3: Old toddlers are the same well psychos. 678 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 2: Steph Claire Smith is being criticized for sharing the lows 679 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 2: of holidaying with her young son. The fitness mogul was 680 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 2: holidaying with her husband and a two year old son 681 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 2: at their multimillion. 682 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: Dollar property in rural Victoria. It's not the first time 683 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: Steph has shared that she's struggling with the terrible two's phase. 684 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: At Christmas time, she candidly revealed she was finding parenting 685 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: difficult now. On Wednesday, Steph put up a pole on 686 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: her Instagram story asking other parents if their toddler was 687 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: favoring one parent more. Let's throw to what she said. 688 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 3: I need to know if parents of toddler's around the 689 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 3: age of Harvey so to another, is your toddler currently 690 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,959 Speaker 3: in a phase where they lack one parent more than 691 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 3: the other, Although being nice to one parent and then 692 00:30:55,320 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 3: mean to another because at the moment Josh is aptoltely 693 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 3: copying it. Harvey doesn't want a bar of him, and 694 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 3: it's quite horrible to what And it's been exhausting this holiday. 695 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 4: And I just don't compare yourself to anyone else. 696 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: You're doing so well. 697 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 3: The sun was in my eyes and I had not 698 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,959 Speaker 3: seen that I had a filter on apologies and use 699 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 3: those filters for stories and so long. Yeah, it's just 700 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 3: kind of it's really exhausting, and it's really heartbreaking because 701 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 3: I think I was really in my mind, I was 702 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 3: so excited to have like kind of beautiful family time 703 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 3: together on this holiday, and we're like not even able 704 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 3: to be together because as soon as we're in the 705 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 3: same room, Harvey's just horrible to Josh, like actually horrible. 706 00:31:53,000 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 3: And so it's been really hard and exhausting, you know. 707 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 3: And I don't want to come across ungrateful either, because 708 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 3: it's also been super special having all of this time 709 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 3: with him and just soaking up that quality time with him. 710 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 3: But at the same time, it's, yeah, it's been hard to. 711 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 8: Deal with. 712 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 9: Now. 713 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 2: Steph went on to explain that the reason why she 714 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 2: was sharing this was in case there were other families 715 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 2: going through the same thing. She finished up by saying this. 716 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 3: You know, holidays aren't the same anymore. It doesn't mean 717 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 3: that they're not special, They're just not the same. 718 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 4: They're different to how they used to be. 719 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 3: So just know that, Yeah, even though we get some 720 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 3: cute pictures and smiling pictures, then in between the special moments, 721 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 3: there is a chaotic. Knew that there is a lot 722 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 3: of tantrums going on every single day. 723 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 4: It's behind the scenes. 724 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 3: All toddlers are the same, all cs. 725 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: Now. The Daily Mail picked up on what Steph said 726 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: and they highlighted the worst bits of Steph's rant, so 727 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: they ran with the headline influencers Steph Claire Smith on 728 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: the brink of tears as she reveals exactly how her 729 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: psycho toddler ruined her family holiday, It's horrible to watch. 730 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: News dot com dot a You also picked up on 731 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: the story, running with the headline model heartbroken by son's psychoact. Well, 732 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: Yahoo wrote model Steph Claire Smith baffled by Son's behavior. 733 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 2: Now, when I watched Steph's stories, some of the language 734 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 2: she used really did stand out to me, and I 735 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 2: did feel a little bit uncomfortable about it, and coming 736 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 2: from a journalism background. It does not surprise me that 737 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: the media pulled out those key words to make it 738 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 2: sound even worse. I would have assumed, though, that Steph 739 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 2: and Laura in particular have got a lot of recent 740 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 2: coverage on the Daily Mail from their podcast, and they 741 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 2: have always picked out, you know, those sort of buzzwords 742 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 2: that are going to get a lot of sex challenge 743 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 2: talking about how often they shower of. 744 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: So, as an influencer and also a business owner, wouldn't 745 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: you be thinking way to sec the Daily Mail are. 746 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 4: Going to be all over well. 747 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 1: I think that a lot of influencers aren't on guard 748 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: as much as they usually would be over the holidays, 749 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,720 Speaker 1: and it sounds like maybe she has been quite sleep 750 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: deprived and she is emotional. So I can imagine wanting 751 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: to be honest with your audience because when I click 752 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: on Steph's content usually over the holiday, she is always 753 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: staying at this beautiful property. You know, she's playing tennis 754 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: during a little workouts. Her whole life looks perfect. So 755 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: I think she wanted to open up to her followers 756 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: and show them that the reality is she, like other families, 757 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: are struggling with this time and that it's all not 758 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 1: sunshine and roses, but I think that she didn't use 759 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: the right words to put that across. 760 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,760 Speaker 2: It's an interesting one because I think Steph and Laura 761 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 2: are really trying to rebrand and say how raw and 762 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 2: honest they are, and I think they've been trying to 763 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 2: do that and push that with their podcast. However, it 764 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 2: was hard to watch because all I could think of 765 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 2: is how would Harvey feel when he sees these news 766 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 2: articles calling him a psycho toddler and think, Oh, my 767 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 2: mom says I've ruined my holiday. And it seems quite 768 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 2: personal because she seemed like she was offended for Josh, 769 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 2: her husband. It was like, oh, he's been so mean 770 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 2: to Josh the kids too. He doesn't know what he's saying, 771 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 2: and sometimes I think, can we just keep some things private? 772 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got to agree. I felt uncomfortable, especially when 773 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: she emphasized just how mean he was. Yeah, and it 774 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: was kind of as if he was purposely trying to 775 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: ruin their holiday and even the comment like, well, holidays 776 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: are very different. 777 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 4: Now, they're not the same. And I mean, I do 778 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 4: feel for her. 779 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: She obviously is struggling and sleep deprived, and it is 780 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 1: funny because normally we're like, oh, we want to hear 781 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 1: influences talk about real life things. But I do think 782 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: her wealth probably has a little bit to do with it, 783 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: because this property, as you said, Sophie, is incredible. It's 784 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: got like a golf course, a tennis course, pool, and 785 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: she was holidaying up there with families. A lot of 786 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: people currently who can't afford to take their kids on 787 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: a holiday. Yeah, I mean where the issue is is, 788 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: I think sometimes you need to protect your children, and 789 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 1: then in this instance, having these headlines labeling Harvey as 790 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: a psycho. 791 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:13,919 Speaker 5: Yeah. 792 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 2: And I have been surprised to see how much Harvey 793 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,280 Speaker 2: does feature on both Steph and Josh's TikTok and Instagram, 794 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 2: because he often features, particularly for Josh, in paid content. 795 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 2: And I do wonder they did make the decision for 796 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 2: Josh to be a stay at home dad, and it's 797 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 2: almost like they feel like it's okay to include him 798 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 2: because he's helping his financial situation, which is obviously at 799 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 2: their own discretion. Like if they want to do that. 800 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: That's fine, but there is a point where if you 801 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 1: put your kid out there that much. I mean, we 802 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: all know his name, I feel like I know his personality. 803 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: And I've been feeling a bit weird about how much 804 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: Steph has been highlighting what a little shit he's been recently, 805 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: because she was talking about it over Christmas, saying she 806 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: even shared a video of him like this surveillance vision 807 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: of him throwing a toyot ahead and her reaction. It 808 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: would be interested, though, to hear from other mothers of 809 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: toddler's to see whether this content resonated with them, because 810 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: it's hard for us to comment on it not having children. 811 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: Maybe this is the type of content that some moms 812 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: and dads needed to see over the summer break to 813 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: realize that they weren't alone. Well that's all we've got 814 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: time for today. 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