WEBVTT - GRANT DENYER UNPACKS DANCING WITH THE STARS 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.720 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:05.720 TV Reloaded podcast last week. They're right, Welcome back guys 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:08.640 to TV Reload. My name's Benjamin Norris and on this 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:11.720 podcast I go behind the scenes with the biggest players 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:12.360 in television. 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:14.480 I don't like the reality show so that they cut 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:16.360 with them and into their life. I don't like them 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:16.800 at all. 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:19.360 But I've also got to go behind the scenes with writers. 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:21.640 The truth is, when I started writing it, it wasn't 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:24.520 had nothing to do with the news and casting agents. 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:26.800 They know from a casting point of view what they need, and. 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:30.360 Editors because that's what we do as editors where storytellers, 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:33.760 not to forget some incredible executive producers who are making 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:35.600 some of the best TV in Australia. 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:38.280 We thought he'd be too just self aware. Well, in fact, 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:40.000 exactly the opposite was true and he became the biggest 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:40.720 character in the show. 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:43.320 So thanks for joining me each week and I hope 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:46.639 the podcast continues to give you real insight into the 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:50.120 magic of television. Today, on the podcast, I have Gold 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:53.959 LOGI winner and Australian TV legend Grant Danya, and we're 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:56.840 going to unpack his latest gig dancing Upper Storm on 0:00:57.000 --> 0:01:00.480 Channel seven's Dancing with the Stars All Stars. Addition, I 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:03.440 don't know if you're currently watching this show, but you 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:06.440 really should. I mean, catch up on all the episodes 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:09.479 that you've missed. Pull yourself at Bloody Champagne on Sunday 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:12.679 nights because the show is really fun and Grant is 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:16.600 amazing in it. I think he probably could win. That's 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:20.000 just my pick. Anyway. Grant daniel is one of Australia's 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:24.200 most loved television presenters for many reasons. But to me, 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:27.400 I've just always loved Grant's energy and from the chat 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:30.319 today I've realized something about him, and that is he's 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:33.800 as sensitive and thoughtful as he is funny. We will 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:36.759 talk about he's breakdown on Dancing with the Stars, why 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:40.440 he came back to dance again after nearly saying no hiss, 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:44.319 future ambitions, and so much more. You know, I'm gonna 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:46.880 admit right now that this has probably been my favorite 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:49.840 podcast to record, and not to talk it up, but 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:53.680 it's just a great chat anyway. I'd like to welcome 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:55.560 Grant Danielle to TV Reload. 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:59.000 What are you doing going back to being a contestant? 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:02.840 Is he's starting with the Stars All Stars. 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:04.600 There was no walk in the park like I thought 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:06.880 it might be well done, Grant, you have come through 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:09.120 an alful lot. I told some hard stories out there. 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:10.760 You know, I had a full on meltdown if I 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:12.200 was going to come back, you know, I wanted to 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:14.960 do something that was truly special. You know, maybe it's 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:18.320 okay to say some of these uncomfortable and embarrassing, humiliating, 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:23.000 painful things. It's granding you with the passing of time. 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:24.880 I'd kind of thought, well, what's this going to be 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:25.960 like when it goes to air? 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:30.080 Hi, Grant, how are you man? 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:32.240 Thanks for having me, mate, It's lovely to be here, 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:32.839 great to chat. 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:35.720 Well. I have to say congratulations on Dancing with the Stars. 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:41.200 I'm absolutely flawed watching this series, and you, my friend, 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:42.639 are just brilliant. 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:48.200 Thank you, mate. I really appreciate that. I actually said 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.640 no at first to coming back and doing it, and 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:54.720 that was mainly because of my enormous ego going mate, 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:57.920 you've you've hosted this show. What are you doing going 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:00.320 back to being a contestant? And I could I quite 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:02.320 get my head round that. I thought I was looking 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:04.320 at it as a backward step, but then I sort 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:06.160 of slapped myself around a little bit and was like, 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:09.000 come on, mate, are you kidding yourself? Wasn't when you 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:10.440 did it in two thousand and six? Was it not 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:11.880 one of the greatest things that you've ever done in 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:14.880 your life? Nance was, yes, it absolutely was. Well, then 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:17.679 who bloody doesn't want to relive or get the chance 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:20.080 to redo one of the best things that they've ever done. 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:23.160 So I was like, come on, man, and I finally 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.639 said yes, and I'm so glad I did because it's 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:29.280 just been majestic and the money helps Frank Oh yeah, man, 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:31.440 I've got kids that I need to feed for sure. 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:33.800 Like I live on a farm here and I'm a 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:36.520 terrible farmer. The only thing that makes me qualify as 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:39.440 a farm is my hat. It's a really good hat 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:43.640 that an Aboriginal stockman gave me out in Birdsville. It's legit, right, 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:47.560 but my farming skills are not. So it's not like 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:50.480 I can I can feed my family with my farming skills. 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:54.280 So it's nice to still have a side hustle being television. 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:56.080 Are you telling me that the hat that you wore 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:58.640 on who do you think you are? Was not your hat? 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:00.680 That was my hat that was. That's the hat I'm 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:02.640 talking about, And I was like, Oh, it's great because 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:04.920 it's it's it's You must have looked at that and said, wow, 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:08.520 is this some kind of cattle? Barren? Did you? Did 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:10.240 you get that vibe from from the hat? 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:12.360 I just thought you looked so beautiful amount of hat 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:14.920 because the promo pictures for that series last year came 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:17.680 out and I just was really looking forward to that episode. 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:19.880 The hat does all the talking, I do stuff all 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:22.280 in the whole show, right, you know, I just you 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:23.600 just look at the hat and you go, this guy 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:27.240 is the real deal. And then you you know, you. 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:29.479 Put the hat on shares nose, you're in for business. Yeah. 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:31.520 Sometimes it's just just that's the hat. Was the only 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.800 thing I'm wearing. And that's when you know it's got 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:35.760 Danny household, do you know what I mean? 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:36.040 Time? 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:37.480 But children number four? 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:42.120 Come on, you're gonna have to do dancing with the 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:45.400 All All Stars, the Superstars. You know you've got any 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:46.080 more children? 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:50.000 You know what? I also, I know there've been two 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:53.640 other series of All Stars before me, and then I 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:57.760 was like, third time, surely there's no one decent left, Like, 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:00.839 surely all the good dances would have been used in 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:03.280 series one and two of All Stars, they would have 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:06.640 come back. So by the third series only the hopeless 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:09.000 ones would we left. And so I'll be able to 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:12.159 brain it if I put my work in as it 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:15.520 tends it. No, I get Courtney Act who sings and 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:17.600 dance through a living and has done you know since 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:21.280 she was I think in the womb. And Ricky Lee, 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:25.479 who's an All Star performer, incredible vocalist and just like 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:29.480 an absolute stage hound, like just a weapon on the floor. 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:31.719 So no, it was no walk in the park like 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:33.800 I thought it might be. I was hoping it was 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:34.120 going to be. 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:37.360 Do you think that the show is about being emotionally raw? 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:37.600 Well? 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:41.160 Is it as much about being emotionally raw as it 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:44.480 is with the dancing, because like this series, the people 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:46.400 that are getting through, the celebrities that are getting through, 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:49.720 are the ones who connect the most emotionally to the dance. 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.120 I think if you connect to a dance, you end 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:54.680 up doing it better, the viewers feel it more, and 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:57.440 the judges buy it right. But I think it's I 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:00.559 don't think it's a deliberate thing where the emotion people 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:03.680 are getting through or it's certainly not a tactic. I know, 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.640 sometimes a backstory can help because the viewers can feel 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:09.320 a little bit more for the dance and for you, 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:11.960 or they understand what it's about. But I kind of, 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:15.120 you know, normally, I'm pretty frivolous in my career, right 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.520 I've always just been that sort of smiley game show 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:21.760 guy who gives away cash and cars. It doesn't take 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:24.599 life too serious. But I wanted this to be a 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:25.120 bit different. 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:25.359 You know. 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:26.960 I if I was going to come back and do 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.159 Dancing with the Stars, and I'd wanted in two thousand 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.720 and six, what's to gain by coming back and doing 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:33.839 it again? You got everything to lose, and you know what, 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:36.560 your last memory to be the one that didn't go well. 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:39.640 So I was like, you know what, maybe I don't 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:41.640 want to just bounce around the floor and just giggle, 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.599 you know, like a buffoon like I normally would. You know, 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.159 I kind of I wanted to do this for a purpose, 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:49.600 for a reason, and you know, I told some hard 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:51.240 stories out there. You know, I had a full on 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:53.560 meltdown after one of the dancers, and you know, I 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:55.600 kind of wanted to to share some of the things 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.760 that aren't The Smiley Game Show, Grant Dania, because you know, 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:01.040 I've been faking it a lot of my life and 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:04.279 shiny and glossy is nice, but that's not real and 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:07.320 it's not that interesting. So I kind of, you know, 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:10.040 I kind of I wanted to. I wanted to open 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:12.000 up a little little more than I ever have. 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:18.160 I can see it's still very raw for you, Grant, Yeah, 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:18.600 you are. 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:21.920 I made some mistakes in my life, and you know, 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.240 there was a period that I'm not particularly very proud of. 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:27.320 And you know, one thing I have learned that it's 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.400 it's okay to make mistakes and it's okay to be 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.520 okay to fail, and that's a part of being human. 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:37.080 And whilst that was a very dark period and a 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:39.920 hard thing to kind of dance too, it's you know, 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:41.640 I just put one foot in front of the other 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:43.760 and I climbed my way out of that hole. And 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:46.000 I feel a lot of healing here done tonight. That's 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:48.440 why it's probably so you know, emotion, I know, this 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:51.200 is just a it's just a dance, and dance maybe 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:53.720 isn't important, but it's important to me, and this was 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:54.480 important to me. 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.560 Well, it felt like to me in some ways. This 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:01.680 show has been a way for you to unpack some 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:06.400 emotional backstories. Is Dancing with the Stars the new group Therapy. 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:11.280 It feels like it, It really does. I had learned 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.360 a little bit about myself from being in the jungle 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:17.880 and I'm as celebrity, where I kind of through starvation 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:22.960 and deprivation and boredom, you end up not being able 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:25.920 to run away from your issues, right that You've sort 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:28.960 of forced to sit in them and confront them a 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:34.359 little bit. And as other people become really warm and friendly. 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:38.120 With you, you kind of felt like you're in a safe place. 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:41.560 Even though there's three thousand cameras pointed at you. You 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:43.840 weirdly end up being able to say things that you've 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:46.160 never said to your own wife. So I kind of 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:48.560 learned on that show, oh, ok, maybe I don't have 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:51.240 to pretend as much, you know, maybe it's okay to 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:54.960 say some of these uncomfortable and embarrassing, humiliating, painful things. 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:57.960 So I kind of started to learn how to do that, 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:01.320 you know, by accident celebrity. And then I thought, you 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:03.559 know what, let's craft a couple of dances that truly, 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:05.880 you know, I want to feel these ones I want 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:08.959 to feel this, so I did them for important reasons. 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:12.079 I felt like that, you know, with this emotional dance 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:15.719 that Australia has already seen, I just I don't think 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:17.760 I've ever watched Dancing with the Stars or watch dancing 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:20.120 and felt emotional like I've been to the ballet and 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:22.240 I can see the people next to me crying or 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:24.400 welling up, and I'm like, oh god, this is like 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:26.959 there's magic eye puzzles that I can't see. And I 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:30.920 had to pause it just before you spoke. So I'd 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:34.280 watched the dance and was wiping away those tears, and 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:37.199 then I was texting Channel seven by one of the 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:40.400 heads of publicity and about another interview, not this one, 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.520 but a different one, and I said, I've just watched 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:46.800 Grand Dania dance and it is unbelievable and I'm emotional, 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:50.199 like I'm crying watching this. And then I got off 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:53.640 the phone and watched what you had to say about it, 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:57.560 and I just thought it was so amazing to be 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:01.080 able to watch a man a blow, you know, father, 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:04.960 a car racing driver, emotionally be able to talk about 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:07.640 that stuff. Because I think it's important for osie men 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:09.520 out there that would be watching that to go, oh, 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:12.679 let's get in touch with how we truly film Thank you. 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:15.840 That's a really lovely thing to say. I'd never thought 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:19.960 of that as a potential outcome or a benefit. When 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:22.880 I was coming up with the dance, it was literally just, 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:25.120 you know, what's the worst thing I've ever been through? 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:27.600 What's the hardest period of my life? Fuck? It was 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.160 this period? Right, it was about twenty twelve. All right, 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:32.319 what's the song? We'll have to dance a song? What's 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:34.959 a song that represents that period? That's right. I used 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:39.480 to listen to this song, Don't give Up. The song 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:42.400 Don't give Up is about reaching a moment in your 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:45.120 life of absolute despair where you don't think it can 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:47.840 go on. I relate to it so much because it 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:51.559 represents the lowest, you know, I've been in my life. 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:54.520 You know, when I was at my lowest, when I 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:57.400 was really struggling to climb out of a pretty deep 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:00.280 dark hole. So I thought, well, what a great opportunity, 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:02.920 you know, to not only to not sort of go 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:06.200 back and be re triggered by all those feelings, but 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:09.280 also to celebrate within myself, just for me, how far 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:11.920 I've come. So I thought that'd be like just a 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.200 really lovely pat on the back to yourself to say, 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:16.560 well done, g D. You know, you've come a long way. 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:18.760 You know, I'm proud of you. That was my only purpose, 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:20.960 you know, it was it was selfish, to be honest. 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:23.400 But then when I walked off the stage, and then 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:26.160 you know, I walked into the arms of Rob Mills afterwards, 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:29.320 who just held me really tired and just said, you know, 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:32.280 what you have done a lot of men a lot 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:35.000 of good by what you have just done by giving 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:38.560 them permission, you know, permission to be emotional, permission to 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.000 you know, accept that life is hard and we all 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:44.000 make mistakes, but you can recover from them. And I 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:47.160 didn't think of that as the as a as a 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:49.920 benefit until he said that. And I'm still touched both 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:52.720 those words, and you've just said the same thing, and 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:53.959 it makes me smile. 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:56.000 Well, Melsy would know. I mean, he's done so much 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:59.120 work you away from the cameras with men's mental health, 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.560 and I think that's great that he was there and 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:03.520 able to give you that words of wisdom, you know, 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:06.319 having been in that space himself. But I also really 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:09.280 love that song, don't give up? And I love that 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:13.160 Shannon Noel Natalie Bassing's wait version? Did you hear from 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:15.840 either of after it was on? Telling I did? 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.040 I texted them both just to let them know that 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.839 I was using their song and just to let them 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:24.000 know that it meant something to me because I knew 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.400 that I have a full melt out because we recorded it, 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.800 you know, in September or October last year, and I 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:32.720 was really nervous, like really nervous, waiting for this to 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:35.959 come around. Have I embarrassed myself and my family? Am 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:38.200 I going to look silly? Why did I do that? 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:40.200 Why did I fall apart? Why can't I just have 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:42.640 held it together just for a few more seconds. I 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:45.840 was sitting in a lot of a lot of discomfort, 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:50.360 a lot of embarrassment and bordering on humiliation. Like I 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:52.240 was caught up in the moment, and with the passing 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:54.320 of time, I kind of thought, Well, what's this going 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:55.920 to be like when it goes to air? Is it 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:58.040 going to have any meaning? Lose it to all its meaning? 0:12:58.080 --> 0:12:59.920 Am I just going to look like just a you know, 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:01.640 blowers just having a mental breakdown? 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:03.720 Well it's kind of hard because it is between two 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:07.640 things it's between overdoing it and people accusing you of 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:13.520 being unauthentic or I guess yeah, losing it and then 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:16.360 people saying his he, or being in the audience feeling 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:19.280 worried for you. It was the right amount of that. 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:21.520 It was in between. You know, it was authentic, it 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:25.480 was real. No one would question what you were going through, 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:27.000 and it just wasn't melodramatic. 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.680 I don't know if that helps, Yeah it does, but 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:33.280 I still very nervous about people's judgment of what that 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:36.560 moment either looked like or I know it to me, 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:39.440 but I just didn't know. You know, when you live 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:43.560 in the public eye, you get very sensitive to what 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:46.120 you know. My whole job is to when I create television, 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:49.120 is to put myself in the audience's seat. What's this 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:51.120 going to look like? How can I make this moment better? 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:53.720 Like if you're creating a game show or doing a 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.480 comedy skit, right, So then you always have that sort 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:59.679 of third person perspective. So when when I absolutely lost 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:02.640 my sit, which was not the plan, I was like, 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:05.160 oh my god, you know, what are people going to 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:07.040 think of me? You know, how much damage if I've 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:09.480 done to my career? Will I never be hired again, 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:11.880 because you know, I can't even sort of keep it together. 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:15.160 I'm supposed to be professional TV guy. What am I 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:18.959 doing for in the bart? But the rehearsals were tough. 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:19.120 You know. 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:22.400 When I first put this song on in the dance 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:24.480 studio and played it to Lily, who's twenty two and 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:28.680 has barely even heard of the band Coldplay, so you 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:32.040 have a lot in common. I first play, She's turned around, 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.360 I'm already bawling, and she's like going, oh my god, 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:36.600 what have I inherited here? What kind of emotional mess 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:39.960 is this? She was really gentle and she understood that 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:42.360 that period of time was hard, and I walked it 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:45.720 kind of through it, you know, as to why it 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:48.240 meant to me and why it was hard. And then 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:50.880 when we first did it on the floor, I was 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:53.560 really struggling to do it in rehearsal, but you know, 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:55.560 I kind of mustered it and pulled it all together, 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:59.440 and I just knew the hard bit would be when 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.280 Lily and I finished last Move, we danced to the 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:05.000 song and she sort of breaks away from me and 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:08.760 she's now a memory. And then I thought, I'm good, 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:11.560 I'm good, I'm good. And when her fingertip just left 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:13.800 me for the last second, and I was like, I'm gone, 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:16.840 I'm gone, I'm gone, and I just I cracked and 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:18.920 it just all came out, mate, It just just it 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:23.240 just had no control over anything. It just all happened. 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:26.320 You've got full claar Dane's crying face, because what I 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:29.640 call it, you know where the cry starts at the 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:34.400 bottom of your chin. And I was the same watching it. 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:38.360 I actually feel emotional now. How ridiculous. I feel emotional 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:41.520 now just thinking about it. It was crazy, it was surreal, 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:44.040 and you know, in a medium at the moment, we'll 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:46.480 get into this in a little bit about reality television. 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:49.040 You know, it's so hard to create those moments of 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:52.000 authenticity these days because these days, you know, the production 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:54.680 company can cut it up and make it into something different, 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:58.200 you know. But there we are watching something raw. So 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:00.160 I have to ask, what did Natt and Shannon say, Hey, 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:04.280 can you go through your phone? Yeah? I can't. 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:08.760 I think their privacy and I'll see you. Let me 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:11.840 just quickly look her up here. So all right, okay, okay, 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:13.840 So I said to her, I said this Sunday Dancing 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.240 the Stars. I danced to one of your songs with Shannon, 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:18.880 Oh don't give Up. Your song helped me get through 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:21.040 the worst period of my life, and I'm honoring it 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.280 on Sunday night. You got me out of a very 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:25.480 very deep, dark hole with that song, and I just 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:28.400 wanted to say thanks and kiss emoji and she wrote back, 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.200 Oh my god, there's very sweet. I'll be tuning in 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:32.720 for sure. This world we live in right now could 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:35.120 do with some of that song too. It doesn't get 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:37.400 much better than Kate Bush, you know who's the original 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:41.600 performer with Peter Gabriel's. She also it's truly amazing how 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:43.960 music can get you through the hardest of times. Thanks 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:46.320 for reaching out. It's inspiring to see you come out 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.960 the other side and share your vulnerabilities. The world needs 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:52.480 more people like you. Love to you and your beautiful 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:55.440 family and good luck. Oh my god, such. 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:57.440 A nice message. And then you know, now all those 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:01.080 people that were disappointed that she got the understudy to 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:03.000 do jag a little pill that night so she could 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.679 stay home and watch you perform on Dancing with the Stars, 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:10.960 they'll be so angry that rings up and goes sorry, 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.360 my friend Grant's on Dancing at the stars tonight, you'll 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:15.480 need the understudy for Jag a little pill. I won't 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:15.840 be there. 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.679 Simon from The Wiggles tells this great story when he 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:25.080 was feeling in Anthony Wallow for a Phantom of the Opera, 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:27.480 and he said he used to hate filling in because 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:30.080 he'd be side of stage when they would make the 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:33.760 announcement to the crowd. Tonight the role of the Phantom 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:37.600 is being played by Red Wiggle. And then he gues, 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:41.040 you could hear the whole audience go oh what, and 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:46.199 he goes emotionally, would hurt my heart that they Yeah, 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:48.440 that's why they don't do that anymore. They actually make 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:50.920 you go up to this board before you see any 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:53.760 performance to see who the understudies are, so you've got 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:56.760 time to deal with that. But I just feel bad 0:17:56.800 --> 0:17:59.040 because now we've given those people a reason. I'm sure 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:00.560 she went and did the show. So I've made all 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:03.720 of this up, like, can I see it? So you've 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:05.080 given her a link to it? So I may, I 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:06.720 hope half of the show. 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:10.240 And Shannon do we want to find out about Shannon? 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:12.960 Shannon probably just sent your beer emotion emoji. 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:13.200 Right. 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:17.359 I'm just gonna say that it's exactly what happened. You 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:21.680 read my mind, No Knowlesy did he did say something 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:24.840 that ended He said, I had to work yesterday so 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:27.440 I missed it. Can I watch it back? Thanks so 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:29.320 much for the message, brother, and I'm stoked to help 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:30.840 you get through some tough time. Tape You're in the 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:32.760 family are well, beer emoji. 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:39.960 Classic, nosey classic. I just think that's so good. I 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:44.240 think it's nice to be emotional in front of Australian 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:47.120 audiences these days and to be transparent like that. So 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:48.000 thanks for that. 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:51.080 Yeah, thank you. I still don't know how I feel 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:56.720 about it, but yes, yeah, I feel part of me 0:18:56.800 --> 0:19:01.879 sometimes feels like I was silly for letting allowing it 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:05.320 to get to me and for falling apart. But I 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:09.480 also take your words you know to heart that you 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:13.240 know hopefully it can help others who might be in 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:16.359 that position to know that you can come out of stuff, 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:19.399 even when it feels like you can't, or you are stuck, 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:22.719 or you're in a state of permanence where you'll forever 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:26.560 be in this pit of pain. Knowing that others have 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:28.360 managed to put one foot in front of the other 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:33.280 and climb out of there. Slowly, you know. I think 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:35.760 I learned that lesson from someone else, So if I 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:38.879 can be that lesson for other people, then that's been 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:39.360 a good thing. 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:42.320 I think it's you know, if you've ever been through depression, 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:45.200 or if you've ever been through a mental health struggle 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:47.600 or an obstacle in your life, the funny thing is 0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:49.880 you always feel like you're always going to be there, 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:52.560 Like it's impossible to think you'll ever be getting out 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:55.320 of it. So that's the important thing. I always find 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:58.640 that people need to say so you might not always 0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:02.480 feel like this, you know, And that is so powerful 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:05.840 because Yeah, I've been in places like that in my life, 0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:08.000 and I remember thinking I'm never coming out of this, 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:09.879 and the fact that I did and then I was 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:13.399 able to go on and achieve great things beyond that, 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:16.280 I think became this important message anywhere we're going off 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:17.280 on an emotional tangent. 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:19.239 I love this. I can talk about this all day. 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:22.760 I think it's beautiful sharing it as well. Yeah, right, 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:24.359 it does feel like you'll never get out of it 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:27.399 until someone sort of shows you that, oh oh ei, 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:29.879 there is a way out, or someone else made it out. 0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:33.119 Maybe I can too. Just that little light globe of hope, 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:34.640 you know, sometimes that's all you need. 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:39.560 Do you think we need more authentic emotions on television? Just? 0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:41.600 You know, so much these days is sort of frank 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:44.880 and grabbed or made to be perfect. And even as 0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:47.800 a presenter, something I've always admired in you is at 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:51.199 times you're a word perfect presenter, which is what the 0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:54.120 network wants. But then also I've seen you go off 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:57.440 script and be yourself. You know, But do you think 0:20:57.440 --> 0:20:58.440 we're missing something? 0:20:58.600 --> 0:20:58.879 Yeah? 0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:02.679 Sometimes when we ah making things too perfect, I. 0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:05.000 One hundred percent agree. And to be honest, I was 0:21:05.040 --> 0:21:07.880 looking back on my career going I've I'm not particularly 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:11.280 very proud of how I've done it and what I do. 0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:14.840 I don't feel while I was I was employed to 0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:17.160 be perfect. I was employed to be flawless. And when 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:19.879 you have a you know, a crew of two hundred 0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:23.840 people and a live show, you know resting on your shoulders, 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:26.320 that's that's a huge amount of pressure. And you know, 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:29.800 I take it very seriously, and you know you have 0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:31.760 to lead it strong from the front. You know, if 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:34.200 you lose one piece, you know, it all falls apart. 0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:37.160 And I don't want to be responsible for having done 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:39.560 a shoddy job, because there's hundreds of millions of dollars 0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:42.160 resting on this, and you know, and I'm fear and 0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:46.439 I'm the truck driver. So but when I was bored 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:50.000 with my own work, to be honest, I was bored 0:21:50.000 --> 0:21:54.680 with my own performance. I was dissatisfied with how I 0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:58.000 was doing it. I wasn't finding it very interesting. I 0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:01.600 found I think I felt like I was a fraud. 0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:05.000 And I just had fallen out of love with what 0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:08.800 I was doing. And so I kind of had to 0:22:08.840 --> 0:22:12.800 figure out what I was doing wrong and why I 0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:15.159 didn't like myself, And yeah, I had to put a 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:17.080 lot of work into that, you know, and that takes 0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:22.359 you down a lot of roads and questions as to 0:22:22.800 --> 0:22:27.240 why you're not happy and why you know you why 0:22:27.320 --> 0:22:29.080 you are who you are, And so I kind of 0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:32.800 had to rebuild myself to be honest and build myself 0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:35.159 into a better version of myself. Again, A lot of 0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:39.080 that started sort of in the jungle, weirdly enough, and 0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:41.560 a lot of work over the last ten years as well. 0:22:41.600 --> 0:22:45.240 But I did all that privately, whereas I just decided that, 0:22:45.520 --> 0:22:47.600 you know, maybe it's okay to do a little bit 0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:48.400 of that publicly. 0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:51.400 You know before that we got some of my favorite 0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:56.160 television moments. Certainly Granted in your favorite moments was always 0:22:56.160 --> 0:22:58.760 when you go off script on any of the shows 0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:01.520 that you're any of the game show hosting jobs that 0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:04.640 you did, because when you laughed as an audience, we 0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:07.600 laughed as an audience, and it was just so funny, 0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:10.479 like you are one of those people like Kristin Wig, 0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:13.440 you know, like one of those SNL sketches where they 0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:15.720 fall out of character and you laugh and you just 0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:18.960 lose it as an audience. And so we always could 0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:23.280 see that there was more raw Grant tenure to come. 0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:26.639 So it's been amazing that the Jungle and Dancing with 0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:29.119 the Stars, I mean, come on, he has allowed us 0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:30.480 to get to see a little bit more. 0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:30.800 I know. 0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:34.560 How weird is that you would ever ever thought that, 0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:37.080 you know, a comfortable old slipper like Daisy with the 0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:39.200 Stars would be the one thing that kind of paints 0:23:39.240 --> 0:23:41.280 me in a completely different picture or just. 0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:44.119 Changes the way that I go about broadcasting forever. You know, 0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:48.200 what a pivotal moment, But I'm so glad it did happen. 0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:50.639 But you are right, I think for a lot of 0:23:50.680 --> 0:23:52.560 my career and I started really young, So I was 0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:56.240 sort of kicked off in television at about sixteen years 0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:59.480 of age, you know, and went up through the journalism ranks, 0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:03.280 and journalist knock's personality out of you. Also, it knocks 0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:06.680 your ability to communicate as a normal human to start 0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:10.760 using terms and phrases that you know, art a normal 0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:16.000 way of communicating. Then I was young at say Channel 0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:18.680 ten or Channel seven, getting these big shows like Australia's 0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:21.080 Got Talent or It Takes Two and then all I 0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:23.000 was doing then I was still like the work experienced 0:24:23.080 --> 0:24:25.639 kid trying to prove to his bosses that he deserved 0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:28.560 to be here, you know where, you know, trying to 0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:30.720 dress up as an adult and act like a TV 0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:34.320 presenter rather than just being a TV presenter. So it's 0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:36.639 I guess we all do that in life, you know. 0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:39.000 You know, they say dress for the job you want, 0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:41.040 not for the job that you've got. I was kind 0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:42.840 of doing that in my career, you know, I was 0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:46.679 I was acting like I should do. I was acting 0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:48.840 like for the job that I wanted, rather than just 0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:51.720 doing the job, you know, true to true to, true 0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:53.480 to heart. I was performing. 0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:55.800 But that's the magic of you in lots of ways. 0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:58.879 I think, you know, you're Australia's favorite son in that 0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:01.720 way that we got to feel that, Like, I mean, 0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:03.840 I've been in your audience for an extremely long time. 0:25:03.920 --> 0:25:06.919 I'm showing my age, but I've been with you through that, 0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:10.159 watching you. And yeah, as I said, it's the magic 0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:12.960 of you was that you were kind of like, you know, 0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:15.159 off to your first job at school, you know, wanting 0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:17.680 to wanting you to do well. And I think that's 0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:18.920 been a part of the magic of you. 0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:21.560 Yeah, I think that youthful excitement. And because I'm a 0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:25.040 I've alwayso been aware that this could all end tomorrow, 0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:31.160 Like I've picked the most difficult of career choices because 0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:34.760 there's so few jobs. Everything could fall over tomorrow. The 0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:36.600 industry could collapse, or you just might not ever get 0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:38.880 a job again, or you get a one show that fails, 0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:42.320 you might never be hired ever again. So I've always 0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:43.800 kept that in the back of my mind, which keeps 0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:46.280 you appreciative of the opportunities that you got. But to 0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:49.720 be honest, I was really struggling to find the buzz 0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:53.520 again after doing Sunrise on seven because that, you know, 0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:55.520 allowed me to really push the envelope. You could do 0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:58.480 anything you wanted from wherever. And I was cheeky, I 0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:02.760 was naughty, I was stunty. I you know, we're doing 0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:05.639 big things. You know, you're wrestling crocodiles one day, or 0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:07.840 jumping out of a helicopter the next setting a Guinness 0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:11.160 World Record for the world's largest tandem bungee jump or whatever. Right, 0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:15.320 But I really struggled after that because I was getting 0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:19.160 such a massive adrenaline hit every single day that when 0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:22.480 that stopped, I was how do I replace that? Like, 0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:25.479 what where do I get that from? So I you know, 0:26:25.560 --> 0:26:27.639 I could get it in motor racing, but when I 0:26:27.720 --> 0:26:31.359 decided not to continue being a professional racing car driver, 0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:33.119 I had a big hole that needed to be filled. 0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:33.720 And that was hard. 0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:35.879 I can imagine. But I mean things are like snakes 0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:37.920 and ladders. I mean, even Dancing with the Stars. You 0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:40.600 started off as a competitor, then you were the host, 0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:43.160 you know, and then now you're back dancing again, and 0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:45.240 I'm sure we'll talk in years to come and you'll 0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:47.240 be back to being the host of this show. I mean, 0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:51.119 you're really only in the middle point of a person's career. 0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:54.720 So it's the industry for people who are as good 0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:57.680 as what you are and how well you do, it 0:26:57.720 --> 0:27:01.280 means that we probably will see you replaced Aryl Summers 0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:02.160 the next time round. 0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:05.240 Yeah, it's it's funny, you know, once you've done a 0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:09.439 show and then watching another host host your show is 0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:14.240 like watching someone else kiss your wife. It's really awkward, 0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:16.639 and it's not a nice feeling because you're like, I. 0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:19.679 Can imagine, it's not it's. 0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:21.640 Like, that's my baby, what are you doing in there? 0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:24.439 And so sometimes when you let go of the reins 0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:26.440 and someone else takes over, you sort of don't want 0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:29.399 it back. You feel like, no, you've just abused it, 0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:31.080 you know what I mean? I want I don't want. 0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:33.639 I don't want this show back with all your emotional 0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:34.720 luggage still in there. 0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:37.360 I mean, I can imagine you watching Sonya Krueger having 0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:39.480 so much fun on this show in her role that 0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:41.399 you might be a little bit jealous, you know, you 0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:44.600 might want to snatch the microphone away from her hand. 0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:46.760 At times, You're absolutely. 0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:48.960 Right, And it was when I was hosting the show, 0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:53.040 watching the other celebrities do it reminded me how wonderful 0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:55.359 the whole experience it is, and That's what sort of 0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:58.360 convinced me to do it as a dancer. Watching her 0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:01.400 have that much fun as a host kind of made 0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:03.800 me fall in love with the format all over again, 0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:07.480 because she is joyous, she's having the time of her life. 0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:11.480 She is pushing the envelope like she's making naughty gags, 0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:15.520 making us all laugh and hysterics. Makes it feel so 0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:19.280 live and vibrant. And the best feeling, you know, that 0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:22.560 I will ever get in the world is, you know, 0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:26.040 a live television grand final. You just can't whether you're 0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:28.360 hosting it or whether you're in it. That's the that's 0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:31.560 the greatest kick I've ever received, you know, And that's 0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:34.400 I live for those moments and watching her do it, Yeah, 0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:37.760 you're right, is inspiring because she she's so alive in 0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:38.480 that role. 0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:40.800 So alive, and she looks so good. 0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:44.440 Like did you see that the jokement Todd made about 0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:46.520 her dress in the semi final She had this really 0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:49.840 short sort of mini minute steps on that was like 0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:54.480 it looked like a broken mirrors, like there's a glass 0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:56.400 as you left. To be careful down, you'll have to 0:28:56.440 --> 0:29:00.160 smile from both ends in that dress tonight and motom. 0:29:00.200 --> 0:29:03.680 Oh my god, it made it onto The show was 0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:06.600 on Sunday night. It was last Sunday, And interestingly enough, 0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:09.800 I had I've had Todd and I've had Sonya on 0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:13.400 the podcast before, and both of them talked about their 0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:17.479 friendship and that they actually would nart it out, like 0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:20.320 they would work out a few jokes before turning up 0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:22.120 and be like, but I could say this, and then 0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:24.560 you could say that, And it was. And it's so 0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:27.360 funny because their friendship is palpable. No matter how much 0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:28.960 it looks like they're having a go at each other, 0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:31.040 you know, the lover is still there. And it's just 0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:34.880 brilliant television. How some of her jokes or his have 0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:37.560 stayed in the final cut. They've had set some temble 0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:38.680 last year to edit them out. 0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:41.320 Well that I thought, there's no chance that that GAG's 0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:43.920 stayin in there. I loved the gag, But like, that's 0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:46.000 that was straight out of the box, so to speak. 0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:49.840 This is the show had started, so like that's you're talking, 0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:55.400 that's seven oh four on Sunday afternoon. That's that's early, 0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:57.520 you know to be dropping that kind of material. But 0:29:57.640 --> 0:29:59.840 I you know, credit to the network and credit to 0:29:59.880 --> 0:30:02.760 the produces. What it does is it gives something for 0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:05.680 the adults to make them laugh. You know, you tell 0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:09.120 the best television is when you run the Disney model 0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:10.760 right when there's something for the kids and there's a 0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:12.840 level for the adults. If you can do that well, 0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:16.680 then you're nailing entertainment. You know. That's that's that's that's 0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:19.960 the golden key, because you caters for everyone in every 0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:22.480 everyone in the audience, and I think if you don't 0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:25.760 do that, then you're neglecting your job as an entertainer. 0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:27.480 One of the questions I was going to ask you 0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:30.880 was I was wondering how you went with Sam Mack. 0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:35.040 I mean, obviously you both have walked in similar roles, 0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:37.320 and then he wasn't an All Star. You know, he 0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:39.400 was coming back for the first time. So I'm assuming 0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:41.719 he was really nervous because as an audience, we were 0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:44.960 going to quickly compare the two of you. It's just natural. 0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:48.800 What did you say to him? There's two things I've 0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:50.200 sort of said to him over the years. One is 0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:53.200 when he started the weather role, I said, mate, you're 0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:54.920 in for the time of your life, and I want 0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:57.200 you to enjoy this because it doesn't get any better. 0:30:57.840 --> 0:30:59.920 Like I said before doing whatever you want from where 0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:04.040 you want. This is the gig, the gig, so soak 0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:07.320 it up, enjoy it, but look for the warning signs. 0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:11.400 Listen to your body because it travel is the best 0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:14.080 and the worst part about that gig. You know, you're 0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:16.920 in another part of the country, sometimes the world, every 0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:19.800 single day. So you you know, I had three hundred 0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:22.640 and fifty flights in Sorry, I had seven hundred and 0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:25.680 fifty flights in three and a half years. Seven hundred 0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:28.960 and fifty in three and a half years, so it's prolifics. 0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:31.560 I ignored all the signs. I was never good at 0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:33.680 listening to my body. And you know, I was always 0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:35.800 focused on the next goal, the next race when you know, 0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:38.880 the next trophy, the next television gag, the next television gig, 0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:43.000 all of that, and I ignored what my body was doing. 0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:46.080 And it was shutting down, and I was running head 0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:48.000 on into a brick wall and I wasn't even aware 0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:49.400 of it. And I think that's why I broke my 0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:51.640 back in a monster truck. I don't think it was 0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:53.440 the accident so much as it was, you know, the 0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:55.840 universe telling me to slow the hell down. So I 0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:57.960 just wanted to pass that on to him, to just say, 0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:00.960 there is a time limit on this gig, so just 0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:03.040 be mindful of that and if you get the balance right, 0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:05.720 you'll be okay. So we sort of had that frank 0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:09.000 chat and I'm glad because he's grabbed the role with 0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:11.320 both hands and he does an awesome job. But when 0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:13.880 he came on Dancing with the Stars, I could see 0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:16.280 that I don't know if he wanted to do it. 0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:20.960 I think he was either forced or asked, or I'm 0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:24.560 not sure. He looked uncomfortable. From the very first photo shoot, 0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:29.200 I could see his hesitation, and, Mate, if you haven't 0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:32.240 danced before and everyone else has, like you are a 0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:37.080 hundred miles behind, because it's a grueling, difficult process and 0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:40.240 if you've done it before, you're already right up the 0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:42.600 road before you've even pulled your shoes on to start dancing. 0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:44.920 So that was a big ask for him, but he 0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:48.000 played it beautifully because he just knew where his strengths were, 0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:53.280 which was in I'll just go total dork and laugh 0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:56.080 at myself and just just crack out the gags, and 0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:58.360 that's exactly what the show needed. You know, you've got 0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:00.960 to have that light and Shade wen't be falling apart 0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:03.800 and crying about our dead relatives all the time, you know, 0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:06.680 we had a mental breakdown. You need that, and he 0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:07.760 brought that in spades. 0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:12.120 It felt to me like he was being his daytime 0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:14.760 job in Dancing with the Stars, you know what I mean. 0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:16.720 Like it felt like it was he got to be 0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:20.280 the weather man on Dancing with the Stars, and whilst 0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:23.040 he probably didn't dance as good as Grant Danya like, 0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:26.800 it still was very entertaining. Yeah, exactly. 0:33:27.240 --> 0:33:29.360 I think the judges were a little annoyed that he 0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:32.320 was still playing that kind of weather character. I think 0:33:32.360 --> 0:33:34.280 they wanted more from him. I think they were a 0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:36.480 bit frustrated when they were trying to give him, you know, 0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:39.280 some tips and encouragement and he was just wanting to 0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:42.760 steal the first line or get the first gag out. 0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:45.440 I think that was frustrating them a little bit. You know. 0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:47.400 I know that Paul mccurieo was a bit sort of 0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:50.600 annoyed by that, because this is an opportunity, you know, 0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:55.360 as you've seen, to show a completely different part of you, 0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:57.880 and I think they wanted that from him, and I 0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:00.560 don't think they got that. But the show got the 0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:02.000 laughs that we probably needed. 0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:03.800 I mean, that's the type rope that you have to 0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:06.440 walk with making a show like this. If those judges 0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:09.200 aren't taking it as seriously as they need to, the 0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:11.360 show falls down a little bit. So they're holding it 0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:13.840 together and so if they're in their right to be 0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:16.040 probably a little bit annoyed if people aren't taking the 0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:19.120 competition as seriously as what they are expecting it to. 0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:20.000 Because then he. 0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:22.520 Had no choice. That's exactly what he had to do, 0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:24.880 because there's no way he could have competed because it's 0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:28.120 not an even playing field. You know, we already had 0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:32.439 a massive head start. So he just read the playbook, well, 0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:35.040 read the room and thought, well, this is all I 0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:36.600 could do, so I'll do this. 0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:39.920 Well, I'm really enjoying your podcast. It is all true 0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:42.279 with your wife, Sharz. I just think that you've both 0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:45.400 allowed your audiences a chance to really get to know 0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:48.719 you both in different ways, and it's just such a 0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:52.560 fun podcast. Interestingly enough, you do mention it that you 0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:55.160 guys don't plan what you're going to say, and you're 0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:59.040 trying to be as natural, but surely with what you 0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:02.440 put into each episod. So this podcast. You must have 0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:04.759 some parameters. What are the parameters of a husband and 0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:07.919 wife on a podcast like this? Because my partner would 0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:09.640 never do it. I've been with him for twelve years. 0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:12.120 He'd leave me before I'd even finish the sentence. Do 0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:15.120 you want to do a podcast with me? I? 0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:15.640 End of right? 0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:18.680 What about you? Now? What end scene? End whole relationship? 0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:22.320 But you, I'm I mean, parameters are something we should 0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:26.240 have done. We should have sat down and drawn out, Okay, 0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:30.000 what's too far? What's what's where are the boundaries? Where 0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:33.080 are the no go zones? We didn't do that. And 0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:37.399 this was also me being again trying to figure out 0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:41.200 I wasn't enjoying how I had been previously broadcasting. I 0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:43.840 thought it was just too stiff, too serious, not fun enough, 0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:46.840 not honest enough. And we're in a different era of 0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.680 communication as well. Now we're all communicating very differently than 0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:52.480 we were five years ago. So I said to Shares, 0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:54.920 I will do it on the provisor that I have 0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:57.120 no idea what we're doing. I don't want to organize it, 0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:59.360 I don't want any I don't want to mind my 0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:02.919 life for top. You know, I've done breakfast radio where 0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:06.080 it's a job to have to remember childhood stories or 0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:07.719 something that happened to your kid, or and your kid 0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:10.479 put their finger up the dog's bum. And I've done 0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:12.080 that where you had to write all those down and 0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:13.960 deliver them the next day in the radio. And that 0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:16.640 was it was. That was heavy going. That was hard 0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:20.759 because every time I mind my life for material, it 0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:23.200 was a great segment, but that took a lot of energy, 0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:25.840 and then it would get written about and in the 0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:30.320 newspapers and then so I felt like it was a job. 0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:32.440 So I said, I don't want it to feel like 0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:33.280 that at all. 0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:34.279 So you do it. 0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:36.520 Let's not figure out what we're going to do and 0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:38.960 doing fresh record and Chess has a little bit of 0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:41.640 an idea where she might want to go about, oh, 0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:44.320 let's let's talk about that time, you know, we vomited 0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:47.959 in the bathroom at gold class or whatever, and but yeah, 0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:50.080 I have I have no idea what we're doing, and 0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:51.719 it's kind of it keeps it loose and it keeps 0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:52.360 it fun for me. 0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:55.640 You know, I'm often I'm often talking to the speaker, 0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:57.080 and I there's still a lot of podcasts because I 0:36:57.120 --> 0:36:58.480 feel like, if you want to be good at something, 0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:00.800 you immerse yourself in it. If you're a writer, you 0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:04.040 read a lot. So I'm a podcaster. I podcast a lot, 0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:06.879 and I'm often having you guys. And there's a break 0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:09.520 between the first series and second series. I was disappointed 0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:11.480 with that, but you're back, and I would sit. It's 0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:13.440 the only podcast I can think of where I talk 0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:15.840 to the speaker. I don't think there's any other podcast 0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:19.400 where I do it. I feel like I'm allowed to 0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:22.400 join your conversations. You guys don't talk back, but like 0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:25.880 this the last podcast I listened to, And maybe there's more, 0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:28.080 and maybe I'm not a true fan, but the last 0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:30.919 one I listened to, I remember hypothetically, what would Grant 0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:33.040 Dan you do as his next job? And the guys 0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:35.440 were pushing you into musicals, and then they were like 0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:37.200 trying to work out who you would be in Jesus 0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:41.560 Christ Superstars, and so I was like, Jesus, you would 0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:44.520 be Jesus like that. I love that musical. And I 0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:47.239 love that nineteen ninety two musical so much that you 0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:49.600 got one of the musicians wrong at one point, and 0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:52.359 I also yelled at the speaker, that's not job, that's 0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:55.399 the wrong guy anyway. But I thought you would be 0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:59.319 so good as Jesus in that Jesus Christ Superstars sort 0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:01.600 of rock format, and it was funny to me that 0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:02.080 you didn't know. 0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:05.960 That's very kind of you to say that. However, John 0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:09.040 Farnham played Jesus. Now, one thing I've learned about my 0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:14.320 career is you always replace someone that is worse than you, right, 0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:17.399 because that's the way to win. Okay, you don't mate. 0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:19.640 You don't try and replace Farnham because you're going to 0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:23.640 fall a long way down. And because I'm about not 0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:29.719 over promising and under delivering, I underpromise and over deliver. Right, 0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:33.560 you can't do that if you get the Jesus role. 0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:38.040 For starters, and John Farnham was the previous guy because 0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:39.000 he's insane in that. 0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:40.879 Well, I'll tell you he was actually a really good 0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:43.640 friend of my father's. So we went to the musical 0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:46.160 when it was live. I watched it a few times, 0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:48.319 and I was young too, I was twelve. But the 0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:51.520 first night that it launched, I sat next to Jill, 0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:57.560 who's John's wife, and Jill was so shocked that John 0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:00.320 was standing there for that first half, not saying anything 0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:02.839 and not fidgeting. Because John's the biggest figure of all time, 0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:05.279 like me and san Cel, and he didn't think he 0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:08.600 could play that role. And so I think enough time 0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:10.320 has gone past and the fact that you are a 0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:14.359 little bit hesitant, and wouldn't we all be to play Jesus? Yeah, 0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:18.200 you know, I think it's something that should be there. 0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:20.400 And I've always thought that you would be great in 0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:23.200 a musical, and I almost feel like that would be 0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:25.040 so amazing for us as an audience to be able 0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:27.640 to see that theatrical side of you. So I definitely 0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:30.080 think that door should still be wide open to play 0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:32.120 Jesus or to be in a music. 0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:34.360 Can I just play Baby Jesus? Would that be okay? 0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:37.239 Can I just be in a manger the right size? 0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:39.080 Put a dummy in my math and I can just 0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:43.439 sit there and just enjoy the music. I'm curious about 0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:46.080 musicals because I love music. You know, I'm a closet guitarist. 0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:49.800 I play the drums. You know, I've done some singing lessons. 0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:54.080 I put out two songs and one of them got 0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:57.080 to Top five, the top five for about forty seconds. 0:39:57.320 --> 0:39:58.160 It was for charity. 0:39:58.880 --> 0:40:00.920 But what was this I don't remember that. 0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:03.319 It was a song called Driving Home for Christmas, which 0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:06.160 is an old Chris Reea song which I heard of, 0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:09.680 but I did it for the drought when Australia was 0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:13.480 going through those three years of the worst drought then 0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:17.040 living memory, like yeah yeah, And so I did a 0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:21.479 fundraising one for Rural Aid and I sang the song 0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:26.520 and it's you know what. I was surprised. I was 0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:28.080 wonderfully surprised. 0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:31.360 Always the best moments where you're like I was good. 0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:35.160 Because I was terrified, mate, and I'd never sung in 0:40:35.200 --> 0:40:38.280 front of anyone. That's the scariest thing in the world 0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:40.520 is to sing in front of someone else. So I 0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:42.720 went to singing lessons. In fact, it was Sean Farnon's 0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:47.040 backing singer Lindsay who taught me how to sing beautiful man, Wow, 0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:51.200 great details voice in the world, loveliest man. And so 0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:53.600 I was just when I was making family Fit in Melbourne, 0:40:53.640 --> 0:40:55.840 I'd fly down and during my days when I wasn't filming, 0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:58.399 I'd do singing lessons. And then I sort of got 0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:00.320 to put it into this driving Home for Christmas. And 0:41:00.640 --> 0:41:04.000 then I did one other dirty banger, which is which 0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:06.600 was I want to Kiss You all over? Well, I 0:41:06.600 --> 0:41:08.959 want to kiss you well, yeah, you love that, mate, 0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:12.160 and it's it's pretty. It's pretty. My kids put it 0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:13.600 on all the time when we drive to school. 0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:18.080 It's funny, and then they go to school and sing 0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:20.759 that yah worst father ever. 0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:22.920 It's I've always loved that song. And then when the 0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:24.520 idea came to do it, I was like, that is 0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:27.440 so not me that I absolutely have to do this. 0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:30.399 And my kids are like, I love this song, Dad. 0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:32.520 This is about kissing Mum, isn't it, Like yep, yep, 0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:35.439 That's about Dad's love for mom. That's what this song 0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:36.120 is all about. 0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:40.200 And they love it and they love it. The last 0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:41.560 thing I was going to say, we just go back 0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:42.920 it because I feel like it's my job as a 0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:44.920 podcast that I rope us back in because we obviously 0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:47.799 could talk about this embarrassing stuff. Ever, But at this 0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:49.759 point of the competition, can you just tell me who 0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:52.040 you think is going to win? Because, like I I 0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:55.759 feel like it's between you and Courtney, between you and Shame. 0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:57.640 But I mean, who do you think is going to 0:41:57.640 --> 0:41:58.560 take this competition out? 0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:05.200 Ricky Lee is her little face when she dances is glorious, lack. 0:42:05.239 --> 0:42:08.759 I could just watch her perform singing dance because she 0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:12.160 just has something infectious about her and she has an 0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:15.719 enormous following. Everyone loves her. I think you don't need 0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:18.880 to be the Often the best dancer doesn't win this competition. 0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:20.600 I wasn't the best answer when I want it. Back 0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:23.480 in two thousand and six, Toby from Human Nature was 0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:26.719 he was far better technically for me than me. He 0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:29.279 applied himself more than I did at the time. But 0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:31.759 I just had a little bit of I do sort 0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:34.840 of one fun, one serious, one cheeky, one serious, and 0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:36.600 I kind of just that was my only sort of 0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:38.960 tactic back then, whereas this time I was like, no, 0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:41.360 I'm going to put the yards in. If I finish 0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:43.480 this competition, I want to know that I left every 0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:45.960 single ounce of blood, sweat and tears in the dance 0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:48.040 law and that's what I did. Courtney's my father. The 0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:50.799 best dancer. Ricky Lee, I think is the most magnetic, 0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:55.799 and I don't know what I have to offer. Yeah, 0:42:56.080 --> 0:42:59.440 I sort of feel like in those three there, I. 0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:00.759 Think it's going to be And those three, I mean, 0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:03.960 unless Abby Chatfeld enters late into the competition and pips 0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:05.000 you at the post, you know. 0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:07.839 I still the day that that snake bitter In the 0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:10.239 semi final of I'm a Celebrity, to get me out 0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:12.760 of here because boy, George I did wonders for her votes. 0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:16.080 How ridiculous one of the contestants been bitten by a snake, 0:43:16.160 --> 0:43:19.680 so now she wins. Not that we're bitter, Not that 0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:20.120 we're bitter. 0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:25.000 I was like, I'm dead, I've gone, well. 0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:26.600 Before I let you go. One thing I always ask 0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:29.600 everybody who joins the podcast is what is something from 0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:31.960 behind the scenes that were as an audience might appreciate 0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:35.360 that we didn't get to see. What's something from behind 0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:37.640 the scenes. They've dancing with the stars, all stars that 0:43:37.680 --> 0:43:39.680 were as an audience didn't get to see. Maybe not 0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:41.960 anything from that boat party that you had at the very. 0:43:41.920 --> 0:43:45.520 End that was fun. I'll tell you what. That boat 0:43:45.520 --> 0:43:48.120 party that I organized at the end was the scariest 0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:51.160 day of my life because I'd organize us all to 0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:53.480 kind of God, you put so much work and we're 0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:55.080 doing eleven hours a day, right, So I thought, at 0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:56.600 the end of all of that hard work, let's have 0:43:56.640 --> 0:43:59.400 a day at the harbor, celebrate each others, have a 0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:05.040 good time, and dancers can drink. Man particularly the Russian ones. 0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:09.800 I thought, if anyone falls overboard or drowns and dies, 0:44:09.920 --> 0:44:12.920 that's on me because I organized this, so I barely 0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:16.759 touched the glass. I had one half strength Champagne No. 0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:19.640 I had two half sprint strength strength Champagnes and one 0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:23.239 half strength Mehito. Over about eight hours, that was it. 0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:25.920 Because I just I felt like I was the school 0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:29.080 teacher who was responsible for the school excursion and all 0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:32.759 the kids were naughty like it was. It was not 0:44:32.800 --> 0:44:35.839 an enjoyable day for me. But you never been done. 0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:37.719 I'm imagining because it's your boat that you have like 0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:40.160 a life saving outfit. You have the ring ready to 0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:44.879 throw ready, I'm ready to save anyway. I think that's 0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:46.960 the best story that you could possibly have set from 0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:49.400 behind the scenes, because I don't think many people know 0:44:49.480 --> 0:44:53.480 that you threw an after party for it. If everyone survived, 0:44:53.520 --> 0:44:54.200 I would let the. 0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:57.759 Mum of a slumber party, who's who clearly didn't want 0:44:57.760 --> 0:45:00.840 anyone to reckonny of the furniture or break any of 0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:04.600 the vases, or not stay up late. I became that person, 0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:08.160 which is also not me, But I just I love 0:45:08.200 --> 0:45:10.040 those guys too much. I didn't want to see anybody 0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:12.759 get into cells into any trouble because I had a 0:45:12.800 --> 0:45:15.759 feeling that paparazzi might have been around, and sure enough 0:45:15.800 --> 0:45:19.840 they were, and sure enough they cover, and sure enough trouble, 0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:20.120 isn't you. 0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:24.000 Yeah, you must get so annoyed with the magazines. I 0:45:24.000 --> 0:45:26.040 mean not that we I mean we're laughing that. I 0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:29.600 just must just when everyone's after you anyway, that's a 0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:32.640 completely intert story, and we're going off on long chat. 0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:35.680 That's a longer chat. That's a different podcast as well, 0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:37.719 because I reckon I'm the right person for it. But 0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:39.759 thank you so much for being able to take the 0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:41.919 time out and have a chat and talk about the show. 0:45:42.080 --> 0:45:44.960 And I'll be forever in your audience, so you know, 0:45:45.080 --> 0:45:45.520 keep it up. 0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:47.879 That was lovely. I really enjoyed this. Thanks. Thanks mate 0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:50.200 that it was nice to reminisce about some cool stuff 0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:52.560 and talk about some hard stuff too. Appreciate it.