1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Quentin Killian, the CEO of the Real Estate Institute of 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory. Good morning, Quentin, Morning Katie. 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: Now Quentin. 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: The latest property sales report it's been released and well 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: the top end property market was as hot as the 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: weather was the headline in in that media release. How 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: are things going at the moment. 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 2: Look, it is a very very robust market at the moment. 9 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: It's quite exciting to see the movement that we're seeing 10 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: in there. Just to give you some perspectives, the sales 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: volume for housing for detached housing in March quarter jumped 12 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: up ten point eight percent in the quarter, which is 13 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 2: a great growth and annually that's a fifty one point 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: one percent growth on where it was selling out last year. 15 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: The median price for housing also jumped up nine point 16 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: four percent in the quarter, which is sixteen point four 17 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: percent better than last year and now sits at five 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: hundred and forty seven thousand for the median price for 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: house in the territory or in Darwin oceand say And 20 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: units were also a great performer. They sold four point 21 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: three percent more in the last quarter, which is at 22 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 2: forty three point three percent more than what it was 23 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: selling at last year and that's moved up to a 24 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: median price of three hundred and thirty thousand across the 25 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: Greater Darwin region, so it's been very busy. The other 26 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:29,559 Speaker 2: exciting area of growth was land sales for residential land, 27 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: where we saw growth in pretty much every sector of 28 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: land sales, from the smaller blocks under six hundred square 29 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 2: to the average blocks of six hundred to eight hundred 30 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: square meters, so pretty much every area was selling well. 31 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: And I know there is starting to get a bit 32 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: of pressure on available land at the moment. There are 33 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: some new releases coming out, so it'll be interesting to 34 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: see whether that continues its growth into the Dune quarter 35 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: when that happens. 36 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: So Quentin, that is for the top end. How are 37 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: things going in the lights of Alice Springs at this. 38 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 2: Point we look Alice Springs was a little bit quieter. 39 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: They showed a little bit of a drop in the 40 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: sales volume. Now we've actually recorded around seventy seven sales 41 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: in houses, but I believe we've had a bit of 42 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: a discrepancy in that. This morning it could be around 43 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: eighty on sales. There's about not a three that we 44 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: haven't picked up in there, but that's dropped back about 45 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: eighteen percent in its volume and its sales volume and 46 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: the medians are pretty steady. But Alice Springs has had 47 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: a pretty good run over the last couple of years anyway. 48 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: So where Darwin has dropped off dramatically in the last 49 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: few years, Alice hasn't had that same impact. It had 50 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 2: an impact, but not as dramatic as the Darwin market. 51 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: Their unit market was again was a bit quieter in 52 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 2: the sales volume, but it's still steady at around three 53 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty thousand median price for a unit now, 54 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: so it's been a good, strong market. Catherine again a 55 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: little bit quieter in the sales volume, but again is 56 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 2: still quite a strong market. And Tennant Creek actually picked 57 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: up by fifty percent, mind you, it's on very low numbers. 58 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: They sold nine houses in Tenant over the last quarter 59 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 2: and their medium picked up by fifteen percent, so they're 60 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: up around the two hundred and thirty thousand, so pretty 61 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 2: much across the territory, the start of twenty twenty one 62 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: has been a very positive sign for the real estate market. 63 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: Quentin, what do you attribute that to? 64 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: Look, I think it's a combination of a few things. One, 65 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: we are seeing a pick up in population. I mean 66 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: it's not as dramatic as the decline we've seen over 67 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: the last five years, but people asked on ed to 68 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: come back to the territory and therefore put pressure on 69 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: the market. But equally, what we are seeing is still 70 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 2: large numbers of first home buyers coming into the market 71 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: using the the timing of both the available tax concessions 72 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: that the NT government has in there and also the 73 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: very very low interest rates. I mean we're now seeing 74 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: mortgages with a one in front of them rather than 75 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: a three or four. So it's a great incentive for 76 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: first home buyers to be coming into a market. And 77 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 2: while our median price is moving up in relative terms, 78 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: Melbourne has just cracked the million dollar median price and 79 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 2: Sydney is at about one point one to two million 80 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 2: for a median value of a property. So putting that 81 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: into perspective, when you're still in the five hundreds, it's 82 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: good buying value in Darwin and in particular in fact 83 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 2: across the territory when you're looking particularly to your first 84 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 2: home purchase. So the other area that is starting to 85 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: kick off, and we're very pleased to see this is 86 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 2: the investor market again, So investors are getting rental yields 87 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,799 Speaker 2: up here that are around about five and a half 88 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: to six percent, compared to around say one to between 89 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 2: one and three percent in Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane. So 90 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: for an investor, this is a prime market to be 91 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: looking at for, particularly unit investments, which you can then 92 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 2: turn back into the rental market. 93 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: And Quentin talking about rentals, how are those how are 94 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: those vacancy rates going in the rental area. 95 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: Oh, look, the vacancy rates are very squeezed again. We're 96 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 2: down to one point eight percent across the Greater Darwin area, 97 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: one point six percent in Palmerston and two point four 98 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: percent in Alice Springs. And if you're looking for a 99 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: unit in the rural area, that's hit the vacancy rate 100 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: of zero. So I'm sure that there are some, but 101 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: there's they're not showing up on our stats at the moment. 102 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 2: But yes, the vacancy rate has tightened up again in 103 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: the March quarter from the December quarter, and rents have 104 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: risen across the board a little bit. They're not jumping 105 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 2: and leaping up at a great rate of notes, but 106 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 2: we didn't see that the overall rents, so we're talking 107 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: about Greater Dam and including Palmerston. House rent moved up 108 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 2: six percent in the quarter to an average of five 109 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty eight a week, and unit rents were 110 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: pretty steady. That only moved about zero point one percent 111 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: in the course, so that sits around about an average 112 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,119 Speaker 2: of three point sixty four per week. 113 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: Quentin, I guess none of us ever really know, But 114 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: are you expecting things to slow down or continue on 115 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: this path at this point? 116 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 2: I'm loath to crystal ballgames because there are so many 117 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 2: external factors that can impact on the market. But all 118 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 2: the current signs are showing us that the demand is maintaining, 119 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: and as long as that demand maintains, then the market 120 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: will remain active. So as long as we can keep 121 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: bringing people to the territory and that they're is a 122 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 2: growth in our population, there will continue to be a 123 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: demand on the housing market, and supply is tight. The 124 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: more that we can have people looking at coming back 125 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: into the sales market and also new land releases, a 126 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: new product coming into the market eases that supply a 127 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: little bit, but at the moment, demand is certainly pushing 128 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: supply to its limits. 129 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: Quentin just quickly before we wrap up. Is there a 130 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: particular suburb which is the most popular to buy a home? 131 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: Not really, No, it's sort of spread across and it 132 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: really depends on the price point that you're looking at, 133 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: because it does vary, say greatly between Fanny Bay, lark 134 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: Here out to Gray and Molded, So it really does 135 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: depend on the price point. But we are seeing quite 136 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: a lot of sales. Very popular area in general, not 137 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: in a suburb, but in general is Palmerston at the moment. 138 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: So in the March quarter we saw sales volumes in 139 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: housing drop jump up to one hundred and fifteen properties 140 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 2: sold in the March quarter, So Palmerston is proving to 141 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: be quite popular and I think that's largely because of 142 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: the slightly lower price point than moving closer to the city. 143 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: Well, Quentin Killian, it is always great to catch up 144 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: with you. I know you're a busy man this morning, 145 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: so we really appreciate. 146 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: Your time, my pleasure, Katie. 147 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,559 Speaker 1: Thank you. That is Quentin Killian. There the Real Estate 148 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: Institute of the Northern Territories CEO