WEBVTT - Sandra Sully - THE MASKED SINGER - News Journalist 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:03.640 TV Reload, the podcast. 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:04.000 Past Deep that Mine. 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:06.480 Welcome back guys to TV Reload. As you may know, 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:09.320 my name is Benjamin Norris and this is your podcast 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:11.720 to get all the insight goss on the popular TV 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:14.920 shows you may be watching from around the world. Undeniably, 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:17.720 our TV sets are a major part of our home entertainment, 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:20.680 and yet very little is known about how our favorite 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:23.439 shows get made. So each episode I find guests that 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:25.360 want to dive just that little bit deeper to the 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:27.639 shows they're currently making so that you can hear all 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:30.400 their exclusive stories and gain access to the biggest names 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:32.879 in Australian television. I want to thank you for downloading 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:35.839 or subscribing to this podcast however you found me. I 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:38.159 love hearing your feedback, so make sure you leave a 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:41.239 review or a comment on your chosen podcast platform. On 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:44.000 today's podcast to have Sandra Sully, who has just had 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:46.800 her massive reveal on the Mask Singer this week. If 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:49.479 you missed Sandra's performance, you can check that out on 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:53.320 ten Play. Because it was fantastic to see Australia's most 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:57.480 recognizable female newsreader dressed up as a singing form. As 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:01.280 an Australian news presenter and journalist, Sandrasal is most known 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:03.960 for her work on Network ten, where she presents Australia's 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:07.280 top stories nationally. Sandra stepped out of her comfort zone 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:09.959 and showed a heartwarming side to her personality for the 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:12.520 mass singer, which would have been a breath of fresh 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:15.119 air for her as a serious journalist who is very 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:17.960 well known for being the first Australian television journalist to 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:21.039 cover the nine to eleven terrorist attacks. Sandra is a 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:24.080 bright personality with a vast knowledge and is certainly a 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:26.360 quick thinker and it is a joy to have her 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:29.000 here today. I will ask Sandra what she thinks of 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:32.760 those rumors that the masks have actors inside those suits 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:36.399 and are simply miming to some prerecorded songs. Sandra will 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:38.760 reveal the person who convinced her to take on the 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:42.120 popular reality show and what she really thinks of her 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:45.360 singing voice. We will talk about the song Sandra was 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:47.840 learning which we didn't get to see, and how she 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:50.520 covered up her absence from the news desk to take 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:53.760 part in this singing competition. Plus, you will get plenty 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:56.320 of exclusives from behind the scenes of The Mass Singer, 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:59.240 which returns next Monday night at seven thirty on Network ten. 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:01.840 And if you have fallen a little bit behind, even 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:03.960 if you know who we're in the masks, you can 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:07.680 catch up on contenplay. Anyway, Let's brings Andrew Sully into 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.840 the podcast, which I'm very excited about, and I hope 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.160 you enjoy this very insightful look at the Mask Singer 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:14.840 for TV reload. 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:15.960 Hello, hell are you? 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:18.960 I'm so good. I'm so excited to be talking to 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:22.120 you about this. Oh, the Mask Singer. What were you thinking? 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:25.680 I know, crazy cat, aren't I? Or I'm a crazy fawn. 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:27.720 I'm a dip thing though, I don't know. 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:31.360 And we're just doing some publicity this morning and somebody said, 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:34.120 you know, is it because of the kind of serious 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:38.920 space you live in professionally? And I think, possibly unconsciously, 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:40.480 maybe that was part of the motivation. 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:43.240 I mean, you're coming pretty heavy. It is. It can 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:45.079 be a dark space, but it's you know, it can 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:48.200 be heavy with policy and issues and all sorts of 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:48.760 other stuff. 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.920 And maybe unconsciously it was part of the motivation, was 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:53.120 just to have a bit of fun. 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:56.720 But I didn't need it. For therapy, but. 0:02:56.720 --> 0:03:00.160 I do suggesting that it's there for therapy. 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.040 Oh just somebody said, and I thought, no, I didn't 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:05.040 do it for that reason. But maybe part of the 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:08.920 motivation unconsciously is that I'm always living in that serious space, 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:10.520 and it's a space I love. 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:12.360 That I'm really comfortable with. I mean, I love what 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:12.799 I do. 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.519 But this was a chance to just strike caution to 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:18.960 the wind and be silly. And you know, life is 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:21.760 the you know, the dark in the shade and everything 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:25.120 in between, and you do often need to just remind. 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:27.240 Yourself to have a giggle, have a bit of fun. 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:29.800 It can all end in an instant and you should 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:32.480 really just enjoy the journey and be crazy and have 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:35.640 you know two things you're not necessarily always comfortable doing. 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:39.120 I mean, singing, it's not something I am comfortable to doing. 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:42.160 I am not comfortable standing in a bodysuit on a 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:46.200 stage on national television, moving to a song and pretending, 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:49.360 you know, I'm something that's skid, like this is not 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:50.200 who I am. 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:54.040 Well, you know they thought you were Jackie. Oh and 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:57.160 she's in this body transformation. And the funny thing is 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:59.680 you don't even need a body transformation. You already look 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:01.280 like that and have done for years. 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:06.640 And then those those gorgeous judges had the temerity to say, Miranda. 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:11.200 Her, I nearly fell over that through that, and then 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:14.480 my chest well with pride, and I went, this is 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:16.720 so good. If there's any takeout from this. 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:20.159 Entire series, as they said, I could be Miranda Her. 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:23.440 Did they not look at it short? I am how 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:27.320 impossible that could ever be? But I did laugh a lot. 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:28.279 I did laugh that loud. 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:28.880 That was great. 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:31.080 It was fun to watch you because I was like, 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:33.200 this is so fun to see you in a different environment. 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:35.480 It's kind of like you know when you're at school 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:37.359 and you would see your teacher at the shopping center. 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:40.560 You know, it's in an environment you weren't or you'd 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:42.919 see them, your teacher or your parents when they have 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:44.520 a drink, you know what I mean. Like, it's just 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:47.160 fun to be able to see you have that jewelry. 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:47.800 I guess you know. 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:50.200 It reminded me when I was in year five we 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:52.600 went to a family wedding and my teacher was at 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:55.479 the wedding, and I remember exactly what that was like. 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:58.640 I kept looking at them all night, thinking, mind you 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:02.920 when you're not mister so like, Oh. 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:05.120 But Sandra, that was all of Australia last time. Everyone 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:07.840 in the Australian had that emotion. I could feel it. 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:09.520 Oh wow, so funny. 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:12.040 What was the experience like, you know, to be able 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:15.080 to get up there and do that. Was it as 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:17.480 fun as you expected it to be or was it 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:20.280 nerve wracking? Like? How did it? How did it play 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:22.479 out in comparison to how you thought it was going 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:22.800 to go. 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:26.080 I knew it would be challenging because I can't sing, 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:29.400 and I knew it'd be confronting because you know, part 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:32.040 of the deal is you have to hide in. 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:35.480 This costume, you have to perform, you have to move on. 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:37.960 Stage and sing, and then you have to go through 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:39.800 the reveal and then you have you know, if you 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:42.440 were chosen then you have to sing to the end. 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:43.240 Of show live. 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:43.880 Yeah. 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:48.200 That was absolutely terrifying, But I kept pushing. 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:49.880 That to the back of my mind and thought, the 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:52.400 process is here is to have a bit of fun 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:54.640 and be able to laugh at yourself and enjoy The 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:58.480 journey for me was actually just seeing if I could 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:00.960 go through with it. I have to give full credit 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:02.880 to my husband. He was the one that actually took 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.320 me into it, and he kept reminding me, and there 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:08.599 were many moments where I nearly backed out. You know, 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:10.880 I had a session with the singing coach that ended 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:14.080 in tears because I was just so aware that this 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:17.680 was not going well. 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:19.920 Hold off really well. But I mean, if you're not 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:23.000 somebody who's a singer, or even someone who likes karaoke, 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:26.320 you know, it's a very hard environment to be able 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:28.520 to put yourself into. So I mean, I if it 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:30.480 was me, I would be in tears as well, because 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:32.400 I'm not a singer at all, and that frightens me. 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:34.920 I don't sing to myself in the shower, and that's 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:35.400 the truth. 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:36.680 You're not even that person. 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:39.960 I'm not even that person, right, So this this was 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:44.680 next level discomfort, next level And then I just my 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.200 husband kept reminding me that you know what, have you 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:49.760 got to lose. The worst that can happen is you're 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.080 going to laugh at yourself, And I thought, you know what, 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:53.000 I'm not going to die. 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:53.600 No. 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:57.400 It's before I ever became a journalist, I worked in 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:01.119 community recreation, health and fitness, and I learned very early 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:05.240 on that most adults lose the ability to play and 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:07.880 have fun in a childlike. 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:10.640 Playful way, which is saying and it is and I've 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.200 always known that's the truth. And then I said to myself, 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:15.880 well have you done that? Sandal? Is that where you're at? 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.400 You know, you've you've woken up in the straight jacket. 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:21.760 You've sown yourself, which we all do by habit ritual, 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:22.480 and you. 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:24.600 Know, we hit repeat when we wake up every day. 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:26.760 We do what we do because we love it. 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:30.000 But it's also briutine and it's comfortable, and so rip 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:33.440 that straight jacket off and then say, what have I 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:36.760 actually got to lose? Why not just have a bit 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.480 of fun and see where I go? And I knew 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.680 I'd never get past, you know, the first performances, correct though, 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:44.040 Just do one song and get out. 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:46.240 That's what everyone wants. I think I've got friends that 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:48.000 have been asked to do the show and they say 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.480 to the casting people, look, i'll do it, but can 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:52.520 you rig it so that I come out first? And 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:54.920 they're like, oh, you might be there for like, you know, 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:57.480 five songs. And they're like, okay, no, I'm not going 0:07:57.560 --> 0:07:59.560 to do it. But you know, you got the dream. 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:01.760 You got to get a costume made for you you 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:04.720 got to be fabulous. They called you Miranda, and then 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:07.680 I feel as though for the week after you doing 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:10.760 something like this, you'd feel alive. You know what. 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:12.680 I think you've actually nailed it. I do. 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:15.000 I've been trying to process it all morning since it 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:18.040 happened last night with family and friends and the reaction. 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.160 You know that people are giving me and they're just 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:23.800 being so lovely, and I'm taken aback about how surprised 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.600 they am that I did it, and I'm already surprised. 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:29.680 And then I respond to them being surprised, and I think, 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:32.120 oh my god, having walked through the newsroom yet. So 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.360 I've got text messages for my colleagues. Matt Burke's angry 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:36.960 because I went on a show without him. 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:40.320 Of course now he's jealous. Well, we're gonna have to 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:42.040 guess that he's a part of it next year, because 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:42.839 he'll end up doing it. 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:46.439 I know. I'll say Jesty does something kind of rad. 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.720 But there was a room last week that you guys 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:53.280 recorded the songs in a recording studio and then someone 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:56.680 gets up in minds them for you, and that you're 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:59.960 only there just to reveal the mask coming off the 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:03.040 at at the end. Did you hear that rumor and 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:06.120 were you very upset about it because you knew the reality. 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:09.200 I never heard the rumor, and I think I'm relieved 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:11.160 that I didn't, because it would have made me quite angry, 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:12.880 given you know, the journey I've. 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:15.680 Been on and the trials and tribulations. 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:19.239 And anxiety, you know, like I was petrified, literally petrified, 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:22.200 and how do I overcome that, you know, stage fright. 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:24.800 No, I never heard that at all. That's news to me. 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:26.960 How ridiculous, how ridiculous. 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:29.079 But I mean everyone has all these theories. I mean 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:31.400 I heard that you're only allowed to tell one person 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:33.120 that you're going to do the show, and I'm assuming 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:35.120 you know, for you it would be your husband, But 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:37.320 I mean they can't control that. So I want to 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:40.760 know how many people did you actually reveal that you 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:42.000 were going to take on this show? 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:45.000 Well? No, well you have to sign an NBA. 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:48.760 Yeah, so there's a legal requirement, so you know, but 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:51.280 the legal requirement is with my family, and I'm not 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:53.280 going to do the wrong thing by my family, which 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:53.760 is network. 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:56.720 But I will I will tell you the truth. It 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:58.440 was my husband and my mum. 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:00.160 Okay, because my mum. 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.800 I knew when I wasn't on the news something I 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:07.959 wanted to know why. Yes, my own tween's sister, do 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:10.880 I know doesn't always watch me? Never rang and said, 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:12.600 what put you on the news last night? I went, 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:14.120 I know, No, she doesn't watch me. 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:17.520 It's just brute all away. 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:20.000 To me in this process that my twin's sister doesn't 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:20.720 always watch me. 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:24.600 Brutal, brutal. And then you also sort of mentioned because 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:26.920 you know Chrissy Sworn and Aby Chatfield have both gone 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:29.480 into the jungle, and you said, there's no way that 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:31.480 I would ever do that. But the question I have 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:34.160 for you is, I'd be surprised if anyone has asked 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:36.320 you to do that show. Was there any truth in 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:39.360 that of they as as your family speak, and to 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:40.120 do that they. 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:43.640 Have Stephen Tays asked me several times, what. 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:45.320 Do you say when they when they bring you up 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:46.600 and ask you to do something like that. 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.080 I just look at Stephen and I go, no, don't 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:53.920 go there, don't go yeah, because I am incredibly claustrophobic, 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:57.480 So just putting the full mask on was tough enough. 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:00.640 But I am I am incredibly clostrophobe, and I have 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:03.880 a visceral fear of snakes, and so it's just not possible. 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:06.400 I couldn't get into caves and be chained up and 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:09.160 have water over my head and then snake swimming around 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:10.800 me like no life to you? 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:12.720 Why would I do that to myself? 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:15.280 That's how I felt watching Carry and Kennelly last year. 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:18.480 I was thinking, Carrie Kack, what are you doing like that? 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:20.640 That is a lot no look. 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:23.320 Call credit to anyone brave enough to do it, but 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:26.360 it's not me. Right, I did what I did last night, 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:28.800 but I'd rather chop her in, bring them the news 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:29.559 and chop. 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:32.120 Her out absolutely well. Of course I have a quick 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:34.160 a few quick questions for you. So when it comes 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:36.280 to the song, did you have any choice in that? 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:36.480 Like? 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:38.520 Were you happy with the song choice that was made? 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:40.839 I was thrilled with the song choice because no one 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:44.560 would have expected it. Yeah, right, no one ever expected it. 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:46.600 So that was fun. I'll tell you. One of the 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:48.960 other ones that we were looking at made you look 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:50.080 by Meghan Trainer. 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:53.360 Oh wow, did they actually start you learning that song? Well, like, 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:55.480 just in case you were going through they did? 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:59.120 I know, I know they did. Yeah, girls just want 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:01.280 to have fun, la, So funny. 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:03.160 Okay, well you're going to need to record those just 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:05.360 at home, just for your social media, because I can 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:06.600 from that. 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:09.000 I did love made You look as well. 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:10.960 They were great songs, but I left it to the 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:15.240 experts to decide what which was the one, Which was 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:18.360 the right one for me given in the low starting 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:19.440 base they were dealing with. 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:23.840 And how uncomfortable was that outfit? I mean, it looked 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.160 like one of the easier ones. I'm going to say, 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:28.800 so no discredit to the situation, because I'm sure it 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:30.640 would have been a bit stressful, But you know, how 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:32.800 uncomfortable was it to put it on and to perform 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:33.040 in it. 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:34.640 The body slit was all good. 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:37.920 The body slit was good, although it did have a 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:40.640 full head piece inside the mask, so it was almost 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:44.240 like a balaclavia. Your head's completely enclosed. You just have 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:47.840 an opening for your mouth and your face. And then 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:51.199 to put that on, it's almost like a bike helmet 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:54.320 tightening mechanism inside at the back, and so I could 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:56.800 only see through the mouth, not the eyes. 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:58.959 Oh I'm claustrophobic listening to. 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:03.120 This, and so I think my Another part of the 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:06.360 process was I wasn't still until we went for the 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:08.880 costume fitting. How I was going to go with the 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.240 mask on my head, but I had let them know that, 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:14.040 you know, you can't be too complicated and I can't 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:15.080 be in here for too long. 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:17.080 So the second time. 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.400 We put the mask on, and then they had to 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.880 pull the lycra up under my chin and they'll crow 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:28.720 everything in you to the complete cocoon was a deep breath. 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:30.800 Could you give them any feedback? Could you give any 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.760 feedback and say it's pulling me here? Can we go? 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:34.360 Yeah? 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:35.520 Okay? Great? 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:36.800 They were amazing. 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:40.240 They do everything they can to make you as comfortable 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:44.160 as you can be, even though you know it's not comfortable. 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:47.600 You know, like you sign up for the game, right. 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:52.360 And the team I just you know the magicians was 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:53.640 what they do with the costumes. 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:57.360 I mean, what about could you see Blue Bottle and 0:13:58.720 --> 0:13:59.920 Queen snow. 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:03.720 Fox to just see those costumes, They're unbelievable and so 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:07.560 like Snowfox is so tall, I forget it and tiny. 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:08.800 Someone was walking. 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:10.760 Down some stairs last night and you have to have 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:13.400 someone hold your hand because you can't see out of 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:17.600 the mask where people think you can. So you're completely discombobulated, right, 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:21.840 your spatial awareness is warped. You have none, and you've 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:24.440 got to try and navigate a stage where you can't 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:28.040 see the edge. You've got dancers around you, and then 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:30.560 you've got a light that you can only partially see 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:33.680 that you should try and aim your performance towards because 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:34.760 that's the main camera. 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:37.680 You're inside this cocoon, and then. 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:41.359 You're trying to sing, like really, it's just ridiculous. 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:43.280 I get the feeling that you'll dream of this for 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:47.200 a very long time. I feel like, you know, a 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:48.520 good dream or a nightmare. 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:53.000 I don't think I realized until you know I actually 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:54.080 did what I did. 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:58.720 How elaborate the process is. And that's where it's a shame. 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.840 You know. The viewers don't really get it either. 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:04.320 I think audience members see it and they appreciate it 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:07.080 because they see they get context, you know, and they 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:09.360 see the reality of the size of the costumes and 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:12.920 the characters. But the judges know a what it takes 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:14.920 you to sign up to do this, and the commitment, 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:18.560 and it's weeks and months of planning and preparation and 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:23.120 lies and mischief making. But then it's also the vulnerability 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:24.080 of going through. 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:26.680 The whole process and then the performance, and then on 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:30.280 the night you are you know, it's just you cacooned 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:35.040 in this invisible little lie, pretending to be someone else 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:36.080 giving it. 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:38.160 You're all feeling like a fraud. 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:40.120 I don't know. 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:42.880 I think as well, the magic of playing costumes and 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.280 something you know you brought up earlier. I think there's 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:49.080 something quite magical about being an adult and reimagining that 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:51.600 sort of childhood side of yourself. Like, I think there's 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:52.800 something quite powerful. 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:56.000 Yeah, as a kid, you know, I didn't ever sign 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:57.560 up to do plays or acting. 0:15:57.600 --> 0:15:58.520 I'm not an actress. 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:01.400 That's not in my DNA, and I don't even think 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:03.760 I had a great imagination as a kid. But this 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:07.080 allowed me to just be playful and remember what it 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:08.040 was like to be a kid. 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:09.560 I think we all need a bit of that. 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:10.360 Really. 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:14.240 It's really cathartic, and it's really soul enriching, you know. 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:17.080 I'm really I think that's the most that I've got 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:19.080 out of it is the chance to sort of remember 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:22.280 what it's like to just be silly, have a giggle, 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:24.880 take yourself outside your comfort zone. 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:26.680 I know I say that a lot, but it's so true. 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:27.040 You're right. 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:32.200 Role plays something completely extreme from who you are and 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:32.720 give it a go. 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:35.000 I'd love to be a sink. That's the one thing 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:37.480 I always think, you know, I'd watch people who can sing, 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:40.400 and I'm always amazed by it, you know. I love 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:42.120 to be able to know what that feels like. And 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:44.960 then I go to a karaoke bar and try to sing, 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:47.120 and then I see the face of the face that 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:49.040 I knew that i'd get, which is, no, mate, you 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:49.560 can't sing. 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:52.600 You see, I don't do karaoke. I always go and 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:56.240 cheer everyone on, but I won't know how that I am. 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:56.560 Well. 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:57.440 But it's so funny. 0:16:57.480 --> 0:16:59.880 My little niece, my sister in law film my niece 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.680 last night and she actually, oh my god, it's Adele. 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:06.879 Then I just laughed out loud because Adele, like seriously. 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.359 I was thinking of they had told me this. You had, no, no, no, 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:14.800 it's Arnie Sandy. I can't believe Annie Sandy's doing that. 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:17.280 You obviously were on stage at one point with some 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:20.520