Speaker 1: You are now entering the court of Judge Gina Leano.
Speaker 2: Weddings are a perfect storm for drama and fuse. If
Speaker 2: you have a disagreement that needs to be settled once
Speaker 2: and for.
Speaker 3: All, you come to my courtroom.
Speaker 2: I am Judge Gina, and my decision is final.
Speaker 3: You better be ready to hear my ruling.
Speaker 1: A wedding is a celebration of a couple's love in
Speaker 1: front of their nearest and dearest. But what if you
Speaker 1: find out you're not near or dear, but rather distant
Speaker 1: and uninvited. Osha Ginsburg has brought Mattie J before Judge Gina,
Speaker 1: claiming compensation for a wedding day snub.
Speaker 4: My name is Osha Ginsburg, and you know me as
Speaker 4: the man who's the reason that Maddy J has love
Speaker 4: and children. So like, Sometimes camp flowers in a very
Speaker 4: whispery voice, and sometimes I scream take it off to
Speaker 4: a giant anthropomorphic popcorn machine.
Speaker 5: My name is Matti J. Most people would know me
Speaker 5: from The Bachelor, also social media.
Speaker 4: Probably I've known Mady J since oh goodness, I'd say
Speaker 4: twenty sixteen. We were quite close working together on various
Speaker 4: forms of television.
Speaker 5: I first met on the set of The Bachelorette. We
Speaker 5: then became closer during the filming of The Bachelor, which
Speaker 5: was the following year.
Speaker 4: I want Judge Gena because I want justice. This is
Speaker 4: an ongoing problem in my career. I have been denied
Speaker 4: recognition for my work in providing the launching pad for careers,
Speaker 4: for wise for kids, for husbands. Just hey, thanks, No,
Speaker 4: I want way more than that. I want justice.
Speaker 5: I've been summoned today with Judge Gina because I've had
Speaker 5: some horrific allegations made against me by Usher. I'm here
Speaker 5: to defend myself but also to countersuit. Court is now
Speaker 5: in session.
Speaker 1: Please rise for Judge China.
Speaker 3: Mattie j.
Speaker 2: You are here today because you did not invite Osher
Speaker 2: to your wedding.
Speaker 3: Is that correct?
Speaker 5: That's correct? Yes?
Speaker 3: When were you married?
Speaker 5: November of last year, Dark Day.
Speaker 3: And you married your love of your.
Speaker 2: Life, no doubt, Laura, correct, Yes, And you met Laura
Speaker 2: on The Bachelor in twenty seventeen, where Asher was actually
Speaker 2: the host of that show, The Bachelor, so technically he
Speaker 2: introduced you to the love of your life and you
Speaker 2: were married last year. And I understand Asher that you're
Speaker 2: quite disappointed that Mattie failed to invite you to his wedding?
Speaker 3: Is that right? Is that your claim.
Speaker 4: Today disappointments a small word for it. The buck eventually
Speaker 4: has this top at some point you have to I mean,
Speaker 4: did I get invited to Tim and Anna's wedding? No?
Speaker 4: Get invited to Sam and Snaz's wedding? No? Did I
Speaker 4: get invited to Georgie? No? Did I get invited to
Speaker 4: Locke's No? Somewhere I've got to stand up for myself.
Speaker 2: Okay, So this one has obviously impacted a little bit
Speaker 2: more hurtful.
Speaker 4: I haven't heard this much since Matt Corby forgot that
Speaker 4: he was ever on Australian Night. There you go and
Speaker 4: a couple of tattoos. Get a felt that all right?
Speaker 2: So let's just stick with what's happening so that we
Speaker 2: can so that I can just get my head around
Speaker 2: what it is that you're wanting. So you're wanting me
Speaker 2: to agree with you today that in actual fact, you
Speaker 2: should have been invited to the wedding, And how would
Speaker 2: you like me to compensate you for that?
Speaker 4: I think a significant act of contrition that would show
Speaker 4: meaningfully show that it was a mistake and both Maddie
Speaker 4: and Laura by association are sorry? Is that a professional
Speaker 4: not some sort of you know, dodgy, I've got an
Speaker 4: app on my phone, but a professional retoucher insert me
Speaker 4: into their wedding photos as if I was there on
Speaker 4: the day. Extra points if there's some sort of deep
Speaker 4: fake version of me in a bit of video.
Speaker 2: So you want to be sorry, Mattie Jay, I'll get
Speaker 2: to you. So you want to be inserted into Maddie
Speaker 2: J and Laura's wedding video and photos?
Speaker 4: Is that not just that I want significant not just cursory,
Speaker 4: significant exposure on their social channel sees with a public apology.
Speaker 2: And is that so the public apology would come, and
Speaker 2: the compensation is that they've inserted you, and they would
Speaker 2: make that public. They would let people know that this
Speaker 2: is their way of compensating you, by order of Judge Gina,
Speaker 2: that you've now been inserted into their videos, so their
Speaker 2: memories are filled with not your absence, but with your presence.
Speaker 2: All right now, Maddie.
Speaker 5: J, can I just ask one quick question?
Speaker 2: No, we're not asking No, we're not asking questions. I'm
Speaker 2: going to ask you some questions first of all, and
Speaker 2: then going to unpack this. So you've obviously not invited.
Speaker 3: To your wedding.
Speaker 2: What's your reason for not inviting him? Obviously you're liberty
Speaker 2: to invite or not invite people.
Speaker 3: Can you explain why you.
Speaker 2: Did not invite someone that you would consider a friend?
Speaker 2: And I understand that you have quite a lengthy relationship
Speaker 2: with Asher, which is you've ruled off a lot of
Speaker 2: other names whose weddings you haven't been invited to. But
Speaker 2: in your application you talk about the fact that you've
Speaker 2: spent a lot of time together. You've even had lunch
Speaker 2: with Maddie and his mom, just Maddie's mom, just with
Speaker 2: Maddie's mom.
Speaker 4: There you go, or in a foreign country.
Speaker 3: Maddie may not be happy about that. We'll get into that.
Speaker 4: She just read a prayer love It was in Bali.
Speaker 3: What's your reason for not inviting him?
Speaker 5: Well, look, Genia, this is quite an emotional story. So
Speaker 5: if I do express any emotion, if I start crying,
Speaker 5: I just want to apologies right now.
Speaker 4: In an adjection he's leading the judge.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if you need to apologize in advance.
Speaker 5: Go on. Well, the story dates back a number of years,
Speaker 5: actually before the Bachelor had commenced, and this is also
Speaker 5: part of the reason why I would like to counter
Speaker 5: suit for emotional damage.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll get to that in a moment, but I'd
Speaker 2: like to know what you say about not inviting and
Speaker 2: then I'll get to your counterclaim. But what do you
Speaker 2: say about not inviting Osher to your wedding?
Speaker 5: Well, the reason is Osher was the person responsible. He
Speaker 5: was involved in the public heartbreak of myself on a
Speaker 5: show prior to the Bachelor one year before The Bachelor,
Speaker 5: called The Bachelorette. He was very complicit in that heartbreak
Speaker 5: and at no point at all did he try to
Speaker 5: help me in that situation. And I guess from that
Speaker 5: I felt the foundation of our friendship is one that
Speaker 5: has been built on harassment, shame, all stemming from involvement
Speaker 5: on the show.
Speaker 2: Isn't that what you're signing up for when you sign
Speaker 2: up for reality TV? I remember in Housewives, I signed
Speaker 2: a contract that said I agreed to be embarrassed, humiliated,
Speaker 2: disparaged and brought into disrepute. Surely you had a condition
Speaker 2: not unlike that. So why is that OSHA's fault?
Speaker 5: Gin know we had very different contracts because I would
Speaker 5: never have signed up for a show that would have
Speaker 5: allowed those elements.
Speaker 2: Well, I think you didn't read your contract. I think
Speaker 2: it's pretty standard in reality TV. And why is Itsh's fault?
Speaker 5: Well, as the host, he is the puppet master of
Speaker 5: the show.
Speaker 2: So you felt that you were hurt in the twenty
Speaker 2: sixteen episode where you've appeared as one of the bachelors
Speaker 2: on the Bachelorette Show?
Speaker 3: Is that right? And that was with Georgie Love? Is
Speaker 3: that right? Back in two thousand and sixty?
Speaker 2: And what do you say happened that that caused you
Speaker 2: to have have this grief from Usher?
Speaker 3: What did he do?
Speaker 5: He was an enabler of this heartbreak to happen. He
Speaker 5: was one of the core figures.
Speaker 2: What was the heartbreak? You weren't chosen, that's correct, I
Speaker 2: was runner up. Okay, So how is that Usher's fault?
Speaker 5: Well, I just think the fact that as the host
Speaker 5: of the show, he is the person that enabled this
Speaker 5: to happen and allowed it to happen.
Speaker 4: I'm really so honestly, I'm going to deject here your honor. Honestly, Maddie,
Speaker 4: I'm really really sorry that I broke into your house
Speaker 4: unlocked your laptop with your past code, unlocked your email
Speaker 4: with that pass code, and then wrote and filled out
Speaker 4: the Bachelorette application form and sent it and then snuck
Speaker 4: out like I'm so sorry. If you see someone, I
Speaker 4: want you to get onto a plane and then come
Speaker 4: to sit. If you see soon drowning, I've pushed you.
Speaker 5: Do you give them a hand and pull them out
Speaker 5: of the water or do you allow them to sink
Speaker 5: to the bottom and die? What do you do?
Speaker 4: I narrate it? Have you not seen BONDI rescue?
Speaker 2: I just want to ask you, osher what do you
Speaker 2: say about what Maddie Jay's saying. Do you agree that
Speaker 2: you fail you let him drown or however he's described.
Speaker 4: I completely like if it pleases the court, I'd like
Speaker 4: to bring brand new evidence to light, and that is
Speaker 4: that Maddie is completely forgetting. The moment where he made
Speaker 4: his way down from the rooftop, there was a long
Speaker 4: corridor with which he walked out of the evening. The
Speaker 4: person who was looking after him is full time producer.
Speaker 4: They were walking past the door. I was by that point,
Speaker 4: I've been out of my suit, I was in my citvies.
Speaker 4: I said, I'm sorry, man, this was behind the scenes
Speaker 4: and we were hugged and we even did that. It's
Speaker 4: going to be okay in front of twenty thirty people.
Speaker 4: I'm happy to provide witnesses.
Speaker 5: So it was all for show, was it? Is that
Speaker 5: what you're trying to say? It was performative.
Speaker 3: So, Maddie Jay, do you agree that you were comforted
Speaker 3: by Osher?
Speaker 2: I don't recall, Okay, So that means you can't object
Speaker 2: to what he's saying, So I'll accept his evidence. So
Speaker 2: you comforted him, So so tell me what else, Maddi Jay,
Speaker 2: apart from what you don't recall, what else do you
Speaker 2: say is happening that has caused you emotional harm?
Speaker 5: Well? I guess following the Bachelorette, we did have another
Speaker 5: relationship off the back of the Bachelor where he then
Speaker 5: Osher introduced me to my wife, which I appreciate, no
Speaker 5: questions about that. However, Osha was the first person to
Speaker 5: get married. Is it two thousand and sixteen? I believe
Speaker 5: that you married your wife Audrey.
Speaker 4: At the end of twenty sixteen?
Speaker 5: Yes, okay? Can I ask Osher a question? Was I
Speaker 5: invited to that wedding?
Speaker 4: Were you invited to my wedding?
Speaker 2: I know, Sorry, I'm going to stop. That's not how
Speaker 2: it's going to work here today. You guys need to
Speaker 2: talk to me. You know the answer, so it's not
Speaker 2: a question. You can say to me, I was not
Speaker 2: invited to OSHA's wedding, because you know that already. You
Speaker 2: don't need to ask him that question. So you can
Speaker 2: say to me, your honor, I was not invited to
Speaker 2: that wedding, And I will say, is that right? He
Speaker 2: was not invited to the wedding? And I will then
Speaker 2: say to you, Maddie Jay, Well, you only met Osher
Speaker 2: that year.
Speaker 3: Is that right?
Speaker 2: Because you recorded that show in twenty sixteen, so it
Speaker 2: may have even occurred prior to that meeting.
Speaker 5: That's correct, Yes, Okay, So.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't find it unusual that someone wouldn't invite a
Speaker 2: new friend, new acquaintance to a wedding when they don't
Speaker 2: have much of a history. However, when you married, you
Speaker 2: had quite a history there. You had befriended Osher, Is
Speaker 2: that right? You'd befriended him, You had worked with him
Speaker 2: on two shows.
Speaker 4: I don't share my number with every guy that's a bachelor. Okay, aha, So.
Speaker 3: You had worked with him on two shows. You'd work
Speaker 3: with him.
Speaker 2: On the bachelo Esh and The Bachelor where you met
Speaker 2: your wife.
Speaker 4: And mother of his children.
Speaker 3: To me, it's tit for tat, Oh, it was tit
Speaker 3: for tat.
Speaker 5: Well, he didn't invite me.
Speaker 2: So what I will ask you then, is there when
Speaker 2: Asher was married according to your recollection, did you have
Speaker 2: a history with him?
Speaker 5: Correct?
Speaker 3: Yes, what was your history with him? At Osher's wedding?
Speaker 5: It was the season of the Bachelorette, and so.
Speaker 2: You weren't best of friends at that stage. I'm guessing
Speaker 2: because Maddie Jay, you're telling me that you actually had
Speaker 2: emotional damage at the conclusion of that show.
Speaker 3: So why would Osher invite you to his wedding?
Speaker 5: Well, to me, the fact that I wasn't invited, it
Speaker 5: just further highlighted the fact that Osher didn't care about me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, he probably didn't. That's a tough pill to swallow.
Speaker 3: It's probably the truth. But then your relationships evolved.
Speaker 2: Well he can be because your relationship evolved because whilst
Speaker 2: you were swallowing that tough pill, you also got a
Speaker 2: gig as the bachelor on the next season, and Osher
Speaker 2: made good. He introduced you to your wife, who is
Speaker 2: now you now married too with two children. Was anybody
Speaker 2: else from the show or anyone else from that season
Speaker 2: where you've met your wife invited to your wedding?
Speaker 5: They were, However, they didn't have any wedding justification.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: Two two and what were their roles in that show?
Speaker 5: One was a makeup artist and one was a production assistant.
Speaker 4: Excuse me, Jena, can you ask can you clarify whose
Speaker 4: makeup artist this person was?
Speaker 3: Well? That is that relevant? Whose makeup artist?
Speaker 5: I don't see any relevance in that question.
Speaker 4: I think I'm asking you.
Speaker 2: I'd like to know. I think that is relevant. Whose
Speaker 2: makeup artist was it? It was OSHA's makeup artist.
Speaker 5: Correct, it's makeup artist.
Speaker 3: Makeup artist.
Speaker 2: So I think that you were actually trying to have
Speaker 2: a dig at him and trying to cause some emotional
Speaker 2: damage there. Osher, I'm going to ask you this question.
Speaker 2: Did you want to go to his wedding or is
Speaker 2: this just sport? Were you seriously disappointed in not being invited?
Speaker 2: Because when my friends go to the snow or you know,
Speaker 2: do something that I'm not interested in, I have zero
Speaker 2: care factor?
Speaker 3: Did you care?
Speaker 4: I was not upset that I wasn't invited to the
Speaker 4: wedding of Maddie and Laura, because by that point I've
Speaker 4: done a lot of work and I have built some
Speaker 4: very healthy emotional boundaries and what people and don't choose
Speaker 4: to do is fine by me. It's okay they can
Speaker 4: do that if they do.
Speaker 2: I want to know today the situation. Were you upset
Speaker 2: at the time. I want to know your from your
Speaker 2: memory today.
Speaker 4: For about the space of a breath, I felt it.
Speaker 4: I felt the pang. And then as the photos followed
Speaker 4: me by some horrific meta pixel all around the internet
Speaker 4: and you were absent, I wasn't in them, and as
Speaker 4: my mates who were there texted me how great it was.
Speaker 4: I was able to work on that emotional resilience that
Speaker 4: I had built up.
Speaker 3: And did you how did you work on that? Did
Speaker 3: you have counseling?
Speaker 4: I made lemons out of lemonade and I used every
Speaker 4: one of those. I treated it like a dead lift.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm strengthening my prosterior train.
Speaker 2: Okay, so it was a bit stiff. It wasn't a
Speaker 2: nice thing for friend to do. But I want to
Speaker 2: ask you, so when you actually say that you had
Speaker 2: lunch with Maddie's mom, yes, tell me about that was
Speaker 2: that before the wedding or after. I want to know
Speaker 2: where the friendship was at.
Speaker 4: Oh, this is before the wedding, and this is right
Speaker 4: after Maddie and Laura. I traveled to another foreign country
Speaker 4: to help him find life. So twice I've flashed my
Speaker 4: passport to help this man.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I want to stick with what's happened here,
Speaker 2: but I might come back to that in a moment.
Speaker 4: So I was in a small island off the bottom
Speaker 4: of the Indonesian archipelago Bali. I think his house pronounced,
Speaker 4: and my wife and I were there at the time,
Speaker 4: and I spotted Maddie's mom and oh, they spotted them
Speaker 4: on breakfast.
Speaker 2: So you had a nice lunch together. It was delightful,
Speaker 2: lovely an meet up, it was. It sounds like that
Speaker 2: to me as well.
Speaker 4: But I would tell that to my son as well,
Speaker 4: so he didn't feel jealous.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: So the friendship was such that you were comfortable enough
Speaker 2: that you knew Mattie Jay's mum and you could have
Speaker 2: lunch with it.
Speaker 4: This is a level of intimacy that I have with
Speaker 4: the families of the people that make it to the
Speaker 4: end of these shows. I actually care about their hearts. Gina,
Speaker 4: All right, you've had an experience in reality television. I
Speaker 4: actually give a shit.
Speaker 3: And this was before the wedding.
Speaker 4: Yeah, before his wedding.
Speaker 3: So you actually were friends for five years? Is that right?
Speaker 4: Five long and five long years? Quiet heartbreaking years?
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, so you felt that you were part of
Speaker 2: the family almost.
Speaker 4: We're all from Brisbane, were from the same part of Brisbane.
Speaker 2: So in that five years after the bachelotte, did you
Speaker 2: catch up? Did you socialize together as much as you could?
Speaker 5: The interaction would would have been minimal. I believe in
Speaker 5: twenty twenty two, Gina, the only interaction that osher had
Speaker 5: was a brief meeting, which would have taken place around
Speaker 5: the sixteenth of May. Osha and I we did do
Speaker 5: a social media video together and that was purely a
Speaker 5: transactional interaction. It was just it was purely business.
Speaker 4: Oh really, if it's business, how much did I get paid?
Speaker 5: You didn't get paid in terms of a monetary value.
Speaker 5: What you received is the end product of a video.
Speaker 4: We shot it in a supermarket. Can I go to
Speaker 4: that supermarket and go, I've got the end product of
Speaker 4: this video to pay for my groceries?
Speaker 5: It talks is that video sitting.
Speaker 2: On commissioned that Who commissioned that video, Who was the
Speaker 2: instigator of that video?
Speaker 3: What was the purpose of it?
Speaker 5: I was it was just a comedic skit that sat
Speaker 5: on our social.
Speaker 2: Media, right, And so when you say our social media,
Speaker 2: yours and ashes.
Speaker 5: Yes, it's a collaboration. So it currently sits on my
Speaker 5: page as well as Osher's page as well.
Speaker 2: So what else do you do together? Apart from one
Speaker 2: skit together?
Speaker 3: In May? Do you do a podcast together?
Speaker 4: Do you?
Speaker 5: That was it? I appeared on dad pod?
Speaker 4: You did?
Speaker 5: Are they the year prior?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 5: And so in my eyes, Gina, if I can just
Speaker 5: say one quick point for a second, because I believe
Speaker 5: Osher has had more than adequate time on the microphone
Speaker 5: putting his points across in my eyes, given the fact
Speaker 5: that I wasn't in added to his wedding and in
Speaker 5: the two years prior to my wedding taken place, the
Speaker 5: only interaction that Osher and I had was a being
Speaker 5: on dad pod and second to that was doing one
Speaker 5: social media interaction. I tried to reach out in other
Speaker 5: situations and unfortunately a meetup never occurred outside of those
Speaker 5: two occasions.
Speaker 3: But were you You're in Sydney.
Speaker 4: We live two hundred and fifty two meters from each other.
Speaker 5: Right, seven hundred it's seven hundred.
Speaker 2: Okay, but all the more to the point, you lived
Speaker 2: seven hundred meters apart.
Speaker 3: That's just coincidence.
Speaker 2: You didn't decide to become neighbors deliberately because you were
Speaker 2: best of friends. This has come about by coincidence.
Speaker 5: I would say, now, I moved. I moved house because
Speaker 5: I wanted to build on the friendship that we had.
Speaker 5: I went, I was trying, did you move friendship a chance?
Speaker 5: And yet all I could do.
Speaker 3: And I believe that when did you move.
Speaker 5: Would have been January two thousand and twenty two.
Speaker 3: And when did you get married?
Speaker 5: November of twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: And so you say that even moving house for that
Speaker 2: ten month period of time, that it didn't cultivate the
Speaker 2: friendship beyond where it had been earlier.
Speaker 5: Gina, I tried. I was the one who instigated this video,
Speaker 5: the social media video taking place.
Speaker 2: Can I say, just very respectfully, yes, Osha has a
Speaker 2: much bit high profile than what you do. And Osha
Speaker 2: would assist you, I'm trying to find a gener way
Speaker 2: of putting this.
Speaker 3: You would get more out of Osha.
Speaker 2: Being in your video than Osher would get out of
Speaker 2: you being in his video.
Speaker 3: You'd have to agree with that.
Speaker 5: Well, I would question that in terms of social media,
Speaker 5: I actually have a greater following.
Speaker 2: All right, well, I mean you might have on social media.
Speaker 2: I don't know how active Osher is on social media.
Speaker 4: I ain't paying the bills doing it. Maddie works real hard.
Speaker 2: What you've told me is that you've tried to work
Speaker 2: on the relationship, the friendship. It's by invitation that you've
Speaker 2: had contact. But however, you've also told me that it's
Speaker 2: tip for tat.
Speaker 3: So I think that you're just a little bit of
Speaker 3: a jilted friend.
Speaker 2: You know, PEPs is a little bit of an unrequired
Speaker 2: love in the friendship, and that there may be some
Speaker 2: payback here.
Speaker 3: Would that be fair to say no?
Speaker 5: Because no, Genny, you mentioned earlier that it was a
Speaker 5: tough pill to swallow, and I swallowed that pill. It
Speaker 5: was lodged in my throat. I got it down my esophagus.
Speaker 5: And then following that, I thought, you know what, I'm
Speaker 5: not going to be a jilted friend. I'm going to
Speaker 5: do everything in my power. I'm It wasn't the sole
Speaker 5: reason why I moved to the suburb, but the fact
Speaker 5: that I knew Asher was down the road that was
Speaker 5: a contributing factor. And asked myself and my wife and
Speaker 5: my children getting a rental lease on this property. And
Speaker 5: I thought, I'm just going to give every chance, every opportunity,
Speaker 5: every fiber of my body. I'm going to allow okay
Speaker 5: to put everything in the past with Asher.
Speaker 2: But yet you didn't invite him to your wedding, so
Speaker 2: that I'm not quite buying that.
Speaker 5: Off the back of the interaction in May when Osher
Speaker 5: and I did that video. In my eyes, he didn't
Speaker 5: respect in a way that showed me that he wanted
Speaker 5: to build a friendship.
Speaker 2: How did you want him to respond? How were you
Speaker 2: expecting him to respond? I think you've actually it's a
Speaker 2: bit of payback that you haven't invited him. I think
Speaker 2: it's a little bit vexatious. I think that you you
Speaker 2: wanted this friendship, it didn't quite yield what you expected.
Speaker 2: You've even moved your family into a situation and moved house.
Speaker 2: You're chasing the friendship.
Speaker 5: I'm chasing the friendship. I want it. I wanted Gina.
Speaker 2: That's but the sting at the end was to not
Speaker 2: invite him to the wedding, and I think that that
Speaker 2: was a little bit unfair and quite hurtful for Osha
Speaker 2: and Asher. What you would like is that you'd like
Speaker 2: to have your head effectively inserted into.
Speaker 4: Photos. And he did a really good shred for the wedding.
Speaker 4: So give me a good rig. Yeah, give me a
Speaker 4: good rig. Put my head on someone who's got a
Speaker 4: proper rig.
Speaker 3: Oh, I say you'd like to be superimposed.
Speaker 5: Like the Men's health photo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, And then where do you want that photo?
Speaker 2: Do you'd like it to be launched across social media?
Speaker 4: Would you look like one of their low value kind
Speaker 4: of channels. I'll be happy with.
Speaker 2: And Maddie J, your Countess application is that you want
Speaker 2: Osher to hand deliver roses and chocolates to Laura while
Speaker 2: she's live on air hosting the three pm pickup?
Speaker 3: Is that right?
Speaker 5: Call me crazy, but that's what would fix the damage
Speaker 5: caused by Usher.
Speaker 3: I suppose this is your way of asking Osha to apologize.
Speaker 3: Is that right?
Speaker 5: Correct? Yes?
Speaker 3: And I'm going to take a moment to deliberate. I'll
Speaker 3: be back shortly.
Speaker 1: Judge Gina is deliberating and will soon hand down her verdict.
Speaker 1: Please do not leave the courtroom.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I've had a moment to consider both you cases,
Speaker 2: and I've made a decision.
Speaker 3: Osher.
Speaker 2: You've asked that you have yourself inserted into Maddie Jane
Speaker 2: Laura's wedding video and photos.
Speaker 4: I'll just take photos.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to make an order that, in actual fact,
Speaker 2: that you are inserted into Mattie j and Laura's wedding
Speaker 2: video and photos, and that Mattie J posts that online.
Speaker 3: That's my first decision.
Speaker 2: I'm also going to grant what Maddie's asked for, and
Speaker 2: that is that he would like Osher to hand deliver
Speaker 2: roses and chocolates to Laura Burn while she's live on
Speaker 2: air hosting the three pm pickup, and that that is
Speaker 2: also to be recorded and posted online.
Speaker 4: You know what, Judge Gina, that would actually be my pleasure.
Speaker 4: She's a delight.
Speaker 5: You're so full of.
Speaker 2: Shit, But I would like for you both to post
Speaker 2: these things online and make that part of the compensation
Speaker 2: that you've both been seeking today, and let it be
Speaker 2: known that this is the retribution for Maddie j failing
Speaker 2: to invite Osher to your wedding and Osher retribution for
Speaker 2: failing to step up to the mark as a true
Speaker 2: friend to Mattie J whilst you were in production of
Speaker 2: The Bachelor and The Bachelorette.
Speaker 5: I wanted to walk away with a victory, and I
Speaker 5: initially came into this conversation thinking if there's anything less
Speaker 5: than a victory, it'll be a failure. So whilst I
Speaker 5: didn't lose entirely, I should be happy with the result.
Speaker 4: If there's one thing that Gina's known for, she's harsh,
Speaker 4: but she's fair, and I felt today Gena was really
Speaker 4: really quite fair.
Speaker 5: Look, there were times in the conversation with Gina where
Speaker 5: I feel like OSHA's weight as a personality and a
Speaker 5: high profile name worked in his favor during this trial.
Speaker 4: Matt Look, he's younger, more talented, more handsome, so he
Speaker 4: had that going for him.
Speaker 5: I didn't expect Gina to be just so stern.
Speaker 4: I think she handled my very emotional, to be honest,
Speaker 4: emotionally manipulative opponent pretty well.
Speaker 5: I think Gina kept me on a pretty tight leash,
Speaker 5: like I always think that's probably the best way to
Speaker 5: handle me, because if she gives me an inch, I'll
Speaker 5: take a mile.
Speaker 4: I think any couple that's encountered a real kind of
Speaker 4: difficult moment, like I don't know, I see infidelity or betrayal.
Speaker 4: As long as they're honest with each other and accept
Speaker 4: the responsibilities they each have, they've got a chance that
Speaker 4: they're going to make it. And look, I think we
Speaker 4: can get over this little speed lump, you know.
Speaker 5: I look back, and I do want to apologize for
Speaker 5: Usha not being there. And if I ever get married again,
Speaker 5: which I hope that I don't, but if it does happen,
Speaker 5: I promise this is on record. Asher will be there
Speaker 5: at the ceremony.
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