1
00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,640
Speaker 1: Read the flick with ben o'she.

2
00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,720
Speaker 2: All right, Benn, welcome back from sil morning.

3
00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:07,040
Speaker 3: Thank you.

4
00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:08,880
Speaker 1: Well you've been hanging out with your new best friend

5
00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:09,320
Speaker 1: Chris Hems.

6
00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're bros off of Romance. He knows your name,

7
00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,560
Speaker 3: and you're never going to forget you, never forget it.

8
00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,200
Speaker 1: And now we have Apes.

9
00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,880
Speaker 3: Yep, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. And there

10
00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,200
Speaker 3: are two types of people in the world. People who

11
00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,280
Speaker 3: have seen the more recent Planet of the Apes movies,

12
00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:27,840
Speaker 3: Rise of the Planet of the Apes, Dawn of the

13
00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,000
Speaker 3: Planet of the Apes, and War for the Planet of

14
00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,320
Speaker 3: the Apes, the last two in particular amazing.

15
00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,360
Speaker 1: And then there's people like us and the people like us.

16
00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,159
Speaker 3: Who when you think of Planet of the Apes, you're

17
00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,360
Speaker 3: thinking of Charlton Heston without a shirt on. You get

18
00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:45,800
Speaker 3: your stinking paws off me. You damn the prosthetics and

19
00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,200
Speaker 3: one of the all time creepiest cinema moments where Charlton

20
00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,159
Speaker 3: Heston looks at doctor Zerra and says, I would like

21
00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,840
Speaker 3: to kiss you goodbye, and then and then kisses the

22
00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,760
Speaker 3: kisses the ape and I don't know, I don't know

23
00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,400
Speaker 3: if I'm okay with that. I've never done that. And

24
00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,840
Speaker 3: then of course, you know, we finally did it. You

25
00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:07,440
Speaker 3: blew it all up, you maniacs. So classic stuff. But

26
00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,040
Speaker 3: younger people will look back at that nineteen sixty eight original,

27
00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,920
Speaker 3: which is based on a French novel, and think, man,

28
00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,160
Speaker 3: it's a bit cheesy, Charlton Heston is a bit hammy

29
00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,120
Speaker 3: chewing up the scenery. But it actually was. It was

30
00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,560
Speaker 3: awesome and it was such a great end, huge impact,

31
00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,360
Speaker 3: one of the all time great twists of movies, and

32
00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,160
Speaker 3: it was a box office success. It also came at

33
00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,160
Speaker 3: the height of the Vietnam War. It had these themes

34
00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,679
Speaker 3: of humanity bringing about its own destructions, so it really

35
00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,520
Speaker 3: resonated with audiences. But then that impact was somewhat diluted

36
00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,600
Speaker 3: over the ensuing years with multiple sequels which got worse

37
00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,640
Speaker 3: and worse and worse. There was a TV series. Tim

38
00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,440
Speaker 3: Burton made a reboot in two thousand and one with

39
00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:50,720
Speaker 3: Mark Wahlberg.

40
00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,880
Speaker 1: And there was all sorts of drum the.

41
00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:58,520
Speaker 3: Helena bonhom Carter. They recreated the cross species Pash.

42
00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,800
Speaker 1: This time there was a lot to talk about it.

43
00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there was low key beastealities and never really

44
00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:09,240
Speaker 3: good son. And then along came along came James Franco

45
00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:11,679
Speaker 3: with the Rise of the Planet of the Apes in

46
00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,640
Speaker 3: twenty eleven, and they did away with all the prosthetics,

47
00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:19,000
Speaker 3: no humans wearing monkey prosthetics. Instead it was CG effects.

48
00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,760
Speaker 1: I just identified as chimpanzees.

49
00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,480
Speaker 3: That's right. With the great Andy Serkis who played Golm

50
00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,079
Speaker 3: in All of the Rings, he was the main monkey Caesar,

51
00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,399
Speaker 3: and that film was fantastic. But then the next two

52
00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,000
Speaker 3: were really really good, and Dawn of the Planet of

53
00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,160
Speaker 3: the Apes in particular was getting buzz as a potential

54
00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,920
Speaker 3: nominee for a Best Picture Oscar, that's how good it was.

55
00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,519
Speaker 3: And War for the Planet of the APPEs had Woody Howson,

56
00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,680
Speaker 3: also really good, and the CG effects were groundbreaking. They

57
00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:50,400
Speaker 3: were like industry leading special effects. And so now along

58
00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:55,160
Speaker 3: comes this sequel which has set many generations into the future,

59
00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,600
Speaker 3: a few hundred years into the future from the events

60
00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,320
Speaker 3: of War for the Planet of the Apes, and you

61
00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,520
Speaker 3: might be thinking, what's the point of bringing it back,

62
00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,840
Speaker 3: and basically with none of those characters, no Caesar, with

63
00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,240
Speaker 3: Andy Serkis, well, the point to me seems to be

64
00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,240
Speaker 3: no no Cornelians, no Doctor Zayas. How good was that

65
00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,840
Speaker 3: Simpsons episode with Doctor sayas I hate every chimp and

66
00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,440
Speaker 3: so good anyway, So I get the feeling that studio

67
00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:27,000
Speaker 3: is trying to dovetail the franchise into the nineteen sixty

68
00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,480
Speaker 3: eight original to get back to that point where we

69
00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,640
Speaker 3: maybe have you know, this astronaut landing on a mysterious planet.

70
00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,480
Speaker 3: Oh it was Earth all along. Yeah, So I feel

71
00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,920
Speaker 3: like that's where we're heading towards, but we're not quite

72
00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,960
Speaker 3: there yet with this movie. It stars Owen Tigue, who

73
00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,280
Speaker 3: was in the rebooted It franchise. The Horror Movie franchise

74
00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,120
Speaker 3: is one of the kids. He plays an ape named

75
00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,280
Speaker 3: Noah who has to go on a quest, go on

76
00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,000
Speaker 3: a quest to save his clan who've been abducted by

77
00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,640
Speaker 3: the evil Proximus Caesar, a bonobo monkey, and they get

78
00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:08,560
Speaker 3: up to pretty freaky fascinating but this bonobo is pretty brutal.

79
00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:14,840
Speaker 3: He's not he's not a friendly, and he fancies himself

80
00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,640
Speaker 3: as the new Caesar, so he calls himself Proximates Caesar,

81
00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,960
Speaker 3: and his goal in this film is to get into

82
00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,960
Speaker 3: this like norrad Us military bunker, which he thinks is

83
00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,760
Speaker 3: filled with all kinds of goodies and weapons, and so

84
00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,919
Speaker 3: he's kind of enslaved all of these apes to get

85
00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,120
Speaker 3: that job done, and so Noah has to rescue his family,

86
00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,400
Speaker 3: rescue his mum and his mates, and he gets this

87
00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:41,240
Speaker 3: unlikely alliance struck with a human. And so, for people

88
00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,680
Speaker 3: who have missed the last few movies, the basic premise

89
00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,720
Speaker 3: is there was a man made virus that got out

90
00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:50,760
Speaker 3: of a lab. Sounds a bit triggering for some people,

91
00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,719
Speaker 3: and no one ate a bat or a pangulin anyway,

92
00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,559
Speaker 3: spread spread, It's spread around the spread around the world.

93
00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,360
Speaker 3: And the the result of the virus is it made

94
00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,480
Speaker 3: primates super intelligent, and it kind of as cognitively impaired humans.

95
00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:10,560
Speaker 3: It's made them like mute, and yeah, that's called television.

96
00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,560
Speaker 3: And so humans are kind of reduced capacity, can't talk,

97
00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:19,880
Speaker 3: kind of cavemnesque. But Noah the monkey comes into contact

98
00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,320
Speaker 3: with a human who actually can talk. She's actually very intelligent,

99
00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,480
Speaker 3: played by freyer Allen from the Witcher series on Netflix.

100
00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,080
Speaker 3: And she can talk, she's very smart, she's got her

101
00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,640
Speaker 3: own agenda, and so then the film kind of goes

102
00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,160
Speaker 3: on from there. So it's these two versus Proximus Caesar,

103
00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,200
Speaker 3: will you mate may See makes an appearance. He's a

104
00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,200
Speaker 3: human in the film, who's kind of the human butler

105
00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:45,320
Speaker 3: of Proximus Caesar. The CG effects are incredible, like absolutely amazing,

106
00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,159
Speaker 3: Like you watch some scenes and you go, you know,

107
00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,800
Speaker 3: I cannot even believe that the computer generated images can

108
00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:55,240
Speaker 3: be so believable. The problem with this film is that

109
00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,000
Speaker 3: it's so obviously setting up for the next movie, and

110
00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,839
Speaker 3: that's one of my pet peeves in cinema, where they.

111
00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,560
Speaker 1: Have a perfectly.

112
00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,120
Speaker 3: Good premise for a film, they could have a perfectly

113
00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,680
Speaker 3: satisfying conclusion, but they kind of ruin that because they

114
00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,000
Speaker 3: want to get to point B. Yeah, exactly, but you

115
00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,000
Speaker 3: don't want to go to see a stepping stone. That's

116
00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,279
Speaker 3: the thing. It feels like a stepping stone, which is

117
00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,159
Speaker 3: weird because this is a first movie in what I

118
00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,080
Speaker 3: assume is a new trilogy, and who knows if they're

119
00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:22,479
Speaker 3: ever going to be able to make the next movie,

120
00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,120
Speaker 3: So you've got to make it stand alone on its

121
00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:29,159
Speaker 3: own two feet, and so that kind of unfortunately diminishes

122
00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,560
Speaker 3: the impact of what would otherwise be a pretty enjoyable film.

123
00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,720
Speaker 3: It is still enjoyable. People who like Planet of the

124
00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,800
Speaker 3: Apes are going to get a lot out of it.

125
00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,520
Speaker 3: It's spectacular to watch and there's some interesting thought provoking

126
00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,360
Speaker 3: stuff as well, but just you get to the end

127
00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:44,880
Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, hang on, there's an extra ten

128
00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:49,159
Speaker 3: minutes and you end up with more questions and answers

129
00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,359
Speaker 3: and people find that unsatisfying and I can relate to that.

130
00:06:53,400 --> 00:07:00,400
Speaker 2: All right, So how many corneliuses are you giving it?

131
00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:03,159
Speaker 3: It's such a go back and watch that ninet associated film, everybody.

132
00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,159
Speaker 3: It's so fun. So I'm going to give a three

133
00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:06,280
Speaker 3: a solid.

134
00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,840
Speaker 2: Tree Okay, very nice, thank you, very imposable thumbs and

135
00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:11,120
Speaker 2: one yeah BTUs.

136
00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,800
Speaker 3: It sounds like a hoist movie in a way, doesn't.

137
00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,520
Speaker 2: Give our love to your new best mate, Chris. Yeah, well,

138
00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,720
Speaker 2: we've got time to tell that story. We'll tell that story.

139
00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,520
Speaker 3: We have to tell that A Furious is coming out,

140
00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:23,840
Speaker 3: so you can tell it.

141
00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:24,080
Speaker 1: Then.

142
00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:25,000
Speaker 3: I look forward to that