1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Clearsy and Lisa's How It's a majest in Wa. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 2: So been this sun, I'll make. 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 3: You a start. 4 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 4: This has been fascinating mid our burgeoning film and movie 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 4: industry that's happening in w Way. 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 5: We've spoken to the. 7 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 4: Minister about the Malaga Film Studios. We've spoken to a 8 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 4: casting director, We've spoken to the costume person who's spoken to. 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 5: The guy that holds the big ferry microphone just out of. 10 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 4: Shot today, wrapping it up with the pinnacle of getting 11 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 4: into the industry. Known for starring as Peter Allen in 12 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 4: Not the Boy next Door, Deadline, Gallipoli, and most recently Runt, 13 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 4: to name just a few things, Way born and bred 14 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 4: logi and actor winner Joel Jackson, Good morning, Mike, Welcome, 15 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 4: Good morning gang. 16 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 3: How are you? Thank you for the very beautiful introduction. 17 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 4: For taking time out of your very busy schedule to 18 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 4: have a chat to us, because I thought. 19 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 3: I'd kick starting to day with a bunch of marts. 20 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 21 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 5: Why not, Joel? Would you would agree? 22 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 4: I'm sure that this is a very exciting time in 23 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 4: the WA industry. 24 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 3: It's one I mean. On Wednesday night, we hosted the 25 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 3: very first ever Australian World Travel Tourism Council dinner and 26 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 3: the first summit that's ever happened here in Australia, let 27 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 3: alone in Western Australia. But to see the scale of 28 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 3: the entertainment industry and then to see the interest in 29 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 3: people from overseas asking me about the studios and asking 30 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 3: about what they expected and what can we look forward to, 31 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: it was really special because you start to go everybody 32 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: else outside of Australia is also taking notice. 33 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the key, isn't it to get that 34 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: international interest. So it's locals and from across the country 35 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: and around the world in visiting us working. 36 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: That's the same things what happens at BILLI d Roadshow 37 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: or around those other busier kind of significant studios is 38 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 3: that people come to visit, they come to sit locations 39 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 3: and it's a whole other part of the tourism industry 40 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: which is incredibly exciting. But that's yeah, that's outside of our. 41 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 4: And then and then it just snowballs because they see 42 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 4: our locations and they see, you know what Nick Cage 43 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 4: is doing down South, Wow, what an amazing location. And 44 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 4: they see York and think all that's York that is, 45 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 4: you know, as as Craig Sylvie said, effortlessly cinematic. I 46 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 4: just love his description of York. God where you just made. 47 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 3: You give Craig Sylvie. Yeah, you give Craig Sylvie a 48 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 3: chance to use the English language. You're going to get 49 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 3: a master class. 50 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: It's like wordsmith or something. 51 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:40,839 Speaker 3: You should write right, thanky paper one of these days. Yeah. Excitingly, 52 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 3: he should ever cracked, he should ever crack at it. 53 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: This morning, really excitingly. I just opened my social media 54 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 3: to see that he'd actually announced that they've been approved 55 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: to do this sequel for twenty twenty five the book. Fantastic, 56 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 3: very good. 57 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 4: Oh that is beautiful, awesome news. He's just a He's 58 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 4: a gem. So you I said, born and bred and 59 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 4: that is It couldn't be any truer really, because. 60 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 5: Am I right? You were born in Albany, but then. 61 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 4: Dad was a primary school principle and that took you 62 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 4: to Karatha at about ten, which is very different, you 63 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 4: know extreme. 64 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, you get like solid granite rock in the Great 65 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: Southern Ocean to like the tip of the Indian Ocean 66 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 3: with this pointy, wonderful kind of coral coast and the 67 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 3: red Pin Dan Dust it was. It was amazing. But 68 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: like in saying that randomly too. Yesterday I bumped into 69 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: ten Winter in and Aphoia and just kidding, no, just 70 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 3: I was walking in and kind of get up ready 71 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: to go for this event, and saw him and dropped everything. 72 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 3: And when I have been meaning to find an opportunity 73 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: to meet you and talk to you for my entire 74 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 3: lifetime because we're so lucky in that Western Australia, the 75 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 3: creators here, I've been able to capture that land dscape. 76 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 3: And I think having moved up, the first audition I 77 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 3: ever did was for Lucky Leonard really in Albany, Yeah, 78 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 3: which is the wonderful Sean Keenan got. 79 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 4: Incredible and then y I should say yeah yeah. 80 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 3: And then when I headed to Kratha, the first opportunity 81 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 3: I had to kind of walk onto a film set. 82 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 3: I was working at the Rio Tinto salt mines the 83 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 3: time as a trade assistant as a ta, earning a 84 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: bit of money in school holidays, and I was filming. 85 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 2: Red Dog shidding, this is six degrees of separation in wa. 86 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: We spoke to Tim. 87 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 3: That really launching Juice right, yes, exactly, a big fat 88 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: book of his beauty. Yeahs, I know. But the great 89 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 3: thing about it was that that opportunity to at least 90 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 3: get on to set. See back in the day, it 91 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,679 Speaker 3: wasn't a thing where we're taken photo with an iPad 92 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 3: and putting it into an application that then orders it. 93 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: It was someone sitting there with a polaroid camera and 94 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: aglou stick and they take the polaroid camera of the 95 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 3: person's hands and what the makeup was doing, and what 96 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 3: they had on their hands, the ring to watch where 97 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: their collar was doing with the buttons, how many buttons, 98 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: if they had the belt on three or four notches, 99 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: like all these continuity things. And I'm just asking the 100 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 3: questions of the costume, make up, the dop team, going 101 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 3: what is going on here? And for someone like me 102 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 3: who loved sport and detail and the team aspect of 103 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 3: everyone playing their part, I just fell in love with 104 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 3: the mechanism more than I did the doing. And that 105 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 3: was my first kind of inkling of oh, I might 106 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 3: really like to investigate this. 107 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 4: But when did you realize and I mean when did 108 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 4: you realize that you kind of have leading man qualities 109 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 4: not just to be you. 110 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 5: Know, doing that. 111 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 3: Dad will always say there's this old video of us 112 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 3: kids down at useless Loop with all the cousins and stuff, 113 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 3: and everyone else went away and did their thing, and 114 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 3: they got into groups and made their little on a show, 115 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 3: putting on a show, and I refused to work with anybody, 116 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 3: and I, yeah, I went into my winter bag. I 117 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 3: was like, me, give me my fizzy water, Karen, and 118 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 3: they'll be back out looking for your motivation as a youngster. Yeah, yeah, 119 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 3: what's my why? What's my wife? What I was about? 120 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 3: I s think I was about two or three, and 121 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 3: then it's still in ba Death and I just walked out, 122 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 3: and because I was trying to sing Twinkle Twinkle, Little Star, Get. 123 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: Star, so Dad will always go Yeah. From then on 124 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: we were like, yeah, you were going to be a 125 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: bit of a bit of a handful by yourself. But 126 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: I think the leading man, or at least the idea 127 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: of I can go and do this and pull it off, 128 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: was actually when I was at night, when I was 129 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: at school studying, I knew that I was incredibly different. 130 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 3: So for the first year, half of the teachers called 131 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 3: me Karatha. That didn't call me by my name, all right, 132 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 3: And you know those schools in you know there's a 133 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 3: it's changed now, but it was a bit of a 134 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 3: thing of ten years ago. People would do that, you know, 135 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 3: building down to break you back out. But I was like, man, 136 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: I've played footy in the North Tilbera. 137 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: Like you know what you don't Yeah, not necessarily a 138 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: standard that you're playing on it. 139 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 3: No, No, I've been. I've been in the ruck against 140 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 3: Laurie Blood you late month players. Not a good player. Yeah, 141 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 3: he took me out. Yeah, he gave me my first 142 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,239 Speaker 3: ever knockout. Got head to the knee. 143 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 144 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. He can jump high that man. 145 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 146 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: Vertical ry yeah absolutely. But in the in the acting game, 147 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: I remember talking to Roger Corser one day, great actor, 148 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: and he was saying, I'm working. I'm working right now, 149 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: but next month I'm at the Wolf unpacking boxes and 150 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: sea containers. And it was like, oh, okay, even a 151 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: working actor has to have to have another job. It 152 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: can be one of those kind of gigs, kind of 153 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: in and out. 154 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 3: It can be most definitely one of those. I was 155 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 3: just listening to something that Nick Offerman from Parks and 156 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: rec And who was one of the stars of alongside 157 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 3: another Aussie, Murray Bartlett, in the last of us in 158 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: that beautiful episode. It was just a standalone. 159 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: Brilliant, brilliant themselves. 160 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 5: Yeah. 161 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 3: Nick Offerman, who plays opposite Murray Bartlett, he. 162 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 4: Was married to Anna Statia beaver House and by the way, 163 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 4: right exactly. 164 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, gart Yes, But he he didn't really get 165 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: much of the like a big, big, solid break until 166 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 3: he was thirty eight on Parks and Red. 167 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 4: Wow. 168 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 3: He was working as an actor throughout and doing stand 169 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 3: up and bits and pieces. But he was saying, you know, 170 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 3: he realized that a lot of other people that he 171 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 3: knew and adored were incredible, talented and far more skillful 172 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 3: than he was. But they put all their joy seeking, 173 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 3: put all of their self worth into this career rather 174 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 3: than stepping outside of it and going, you know, like, 175 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 3: if I'm happy and I get to work in this place, incredible, 176 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 3: But if I don't get to work in that place, 177 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 3: can I still be happy? And that, I think is 178 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: such a beautiful key to the longevity of what we do. 179 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 3: Can't place and trust me, like I've learned at firsthand 180 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 3: coming from the first two things that I ever did 181 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 3: in this industry. Being recognized and awarded for a nomination 182 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 3: and a win for our the biggest award for a 183 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 3: TV actor in this country. And I was only twenty 184 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 3: two or twenty three years old when I did both 185 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 3: of them, and from then on you're going, well, everything 186 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 3: else has to be on that par right, You go, well, no, 187 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 3: you can't necessarily emulate all those things. And also those 188 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 3: things were incredibly incredible moments flash in the pan of 189 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 3: great people, great stories at a great time. That was 190 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 3: very necessary. But you can't then place all of your 191 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 3: self worth by going, well, that's what my that's what 192 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 3: my plateau is. You go, well, no, that's someone outside 193 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 3: of me going you deserve that. You well, thank you 194 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 3: very much, and then you can go back to yourself 195 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 3: and then on being incredibly happy in there. So regardless 196 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 3: of what hat you wear on what kind of day, 197 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 3: or what shoes you put on to step out into 198 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 3: that next part in your career, as long as you 199 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 3: can be solid in yourself the little tributaries and offshoots 200 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 3: that this career will give you, you'll be fine. 201 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 5: They are words to live by whatever you do. 202 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 4: Because I think this is the reason why a lot 203 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 4: of sports people suffer, because they may, you know, for 204 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 4: want of a better way of putting a peak early 205 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 4: and then they suffer because they're not giving themselves a 206 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 4: break for you know, you can do that. 207 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 5: And then and then go on. 208 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 4: Joel, what are your top tips for an anyone who's 209 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 4: listening and thinking, I want to be Joel one day 210 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 4: or I want to just be in I want to 211 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 4: be in the industry in some capacity because it's such 212 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 4: an exciting industry to be in, and now is the 213 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 4: time to be doing it in way? 214 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, very good call. My first one straight up the 215 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 3: bat is discipline Trump's motivation every single day. 216 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 5: Right, discipline Trump's motivation. 217 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. So you're only going to be as good as 218 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 3: your best effort. And if you continue to show up 219 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 3: and put in an f every day, the chances are 220 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 3: you're going to produce a lot of good efforts. Stephen 221 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 3: King had this beautiful quoite where he talked about the 222 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 3: fact of you know, the clubs wait for inspiration. The 223 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 3: rest of us just get up and work. And I 224 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 3: think it's wonderful because in this industry, you're never going 225 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 3: to get a pad on the back and you might 226 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 3: put in you know, we put in upwards of one 227 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 3: hundred job applications a year with auditions of course, and 228 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 3: you might hear back from three. 229 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 5: So Sam Longley said this very. 230 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 3: Incredible man, and you know you you just have to go, Okay, 231 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 3: I'm going to put in my best effort and make 232 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 3: sure that I am doing it at the best of 233 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 3: my ability. Good advice don't don't sleep on technical advances. 234 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 3: So what I mean by that is the idea of 235 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 3: a self tape. At the moment and people are auditioning 236 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 3: around the world, there's this great theory that the world's 237 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 3: gone back to being flat because it's so well connected. 238 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 3: Like you know, it's just so easy to be able 239 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 3: to work with the casting direct in the UK or 240 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 3: the US and for them to make their shows here, 241 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 3: or for you to be all of a sudden be 242 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 3: getting a role in House of Dragons and shooting in 243 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 3: British Columbia or and all because if you shot something 244 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: on your iPhone. So if you want to work within 245 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 3: this industry, whether you be on you know, in front 246 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 3: of the camera or behind the camera, look at the 247 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 3: technical advances and listen to podcasts. Be go and take 248 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 3: someone out for coffee and say that's what you're asking 249 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 3: them out for to go. I just want to know 250 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 3: what you know, and I want to see the holes 251 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 3: in my own knowledge to understand this mechanism better so 252 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 3: that I can be as good as I can totally 253 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 3: and you know, and steal from YouTube. YouTube is the best. 254 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 3: Michelangelo would always say, like Michelangelo is not mate. 255 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 5: It was big on. 256 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 3: He good artists copy, great artists steal that. 257 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 4: Joel Jackson, listen. Thank you so much for joining us today. 258 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 4: It's always a treat. 259 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: Very excited, Bud. 260 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 3: Thanks, it's incredibly exciting. 261 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 5: Thanks great, great words to take away. Thank you, Joel,