1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Already and this is the this is the daily This 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: is the Daily OS. Oh, now it makes sense. Good 3 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: morning and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Friday, the 4 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: thirteenth of December. 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 2: I'm Emma and I'm George. Yesterday, Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi 6 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: and Papa New Guineas Prime Minister James Marape announced Australia's 7 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: support for a P and G team to join the 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 2: National Rugby League competition from twenty twenty eight. 9 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: Rugby league is P and g's national sport, and P 10 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: ANDNG deserves a national team. On the surface, this is 11 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: a story about expanding one of Australia's most dominant sports 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: in the Asia Pacific region. But as we heard from 13 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: the leaders of both nations yesterday, this is a story 14 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,639 Speaker 1: just as much about politics and tensions in the Pacific 15 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: as well as a story about rugby. 16 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 2: Emma, it's always so interesting when sport and politics come together. 17 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: Why don't we start with what we need to know 18 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: about the diplomatic relationship between Papua New Guinea and Australia. 19 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: So P and G is one of Australia's closest neighbors 20 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: literally as in its proximity to the Australian mainland. But also, 21 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: you know, we have diplomatic ties with P and G 22 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: stretching way back. So we'll start with the early nineteen hundreds. 23 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: The southern part of P and G at that time 24 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: was actually a territory of Australia. Germany had control over 25 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: the northern part, and then in the late nineteen forties 26 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: these territories were combined under Australia's control and that lasted 27 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: until P and G was granted independence in nineteen seventy five. 28 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: But in more recent times, a really big aspect of 29 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: the relationship between P ANDG and Australia is our shared 30 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: love of rugby league. And that's where my geopolitical analysis 31 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: is going to pause because we need your exertse George. 32 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: Of course, as tda's sports. 33 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: Journalist, well, I love the little history lesson, Emma, appreciate. 34 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: That more where that came from. 35 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: And rugby league is obviously a massive part of Australia's 36 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: sporting landscape, but it's also the national sport of Papua 37 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 2: New Guinea. Its national men's team is the Kummels, which 38 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: means birds of paradise in one of PNG's national languages. 39 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: Top pissin The Kummels have competed in the Rugby League 40 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: World Cup alongside Australia and New Zealand, and its national 41 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 2: women's team is called the Orchards who play Australia's Jillarus 42 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: in the Pacific Championships. 43 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: Okay, so the p and rugby league players at that 44 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: elite level and no stranger to the best of the 45 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: Aussie and kiwi's. Given that relationship, how did we get 46 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: to the stage of Papua New Guinea and Australia holding 47 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: talks about reshaping the NRL to make space for a 48 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: p AND team. 49 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: Well, as we know, sport is a business and the 50 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: NRL wants to grow, wants to get bigger, and this 51 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: is just part of the NRL's expansion plan. So in 52 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three it expanded from sixteen to seventeen clubs 53 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: with the inclusion of the Redcliffe Dolphins who are from Queensland. 54 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 2: And then the NRL's expansion to PNG is a more 55 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: ambitious goal. It's been supported by the government and it's 56 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: been in talks for a little while. So during a 57 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 2: visit to p and G last year, Federal Minister for 58 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: the Pacific Pat Conroy said the government has an earnest 59 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: desire to deliver a rugby league team in Papua New Guinea. 60 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: He announced a five point five million dollar fund to 61 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: help PNG build its case to join the NRL, to 62 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: support player pathways, to encourage young people's involvement in the 63 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: game and the growth of the NRLW as well, which 64 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: is the women's game. Yep. 65 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: So, as you mentioned sport being a business, I guess 66 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: the idea would be, then when you've got these player pathways, 67 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: when you're developing the kind of grassroots contact that young 68 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: people in P and G might have with the game, 69 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: that's ultimately going to lead to more success for the 70 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: NRL as a whole. Now you mentioned this is a 71 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: conversation that's been going on for a little while, but 72 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk a bit more about the political 73 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: context that it's been developing alongside so P and GSPM 74 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: said last year that rugby league has strengthened the diplomatic 75 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: ties between P and G and Australia. The Prime Minister 76 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: Anthony Albernezi has made comments throughout the last year that 77 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: it's been a discussion point between the two nations that 78 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: you know p and G is very passionate about their 79 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: rugby league and it makes sense economically diplomatically, and that's 80 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: a position that's been adopted by the Coalition as well. 81 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: Now that all sounds like healthy diplomacy and friendship between 82 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: two countries, but there is another more serious layer here, 83 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: I guess, which centers around China and concerns about its 84 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: growing influence in the Pacific and territories in the Pacific 85 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: that are a short distance from the Australian mainland. So, 86 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: for example, we've got the Solomon Islands who signed a 87 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: security deal with China in twenty twenty two. Now that 88 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: deal included things like an increased presence of Chinese police 89 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: in Solomon Islands, and Australia very publicly kind of condemned 90 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: that deal and it's stoked concerns of an increased Chinese 91 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: presence close to Australia. So since then we've seen Australia 92 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: prioritize relations with the Solomons under its own security deal, 93 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: deploying police to events like the twenty twenty three Pacific Games, 94 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: this year's election there. And obviously Solomon is not pub 95 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: New Guinea, but that just is one example to give 96 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: you a sense of where the Australian government is at 97 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: when it's thinking about its relationships with our Pacific neighbors. 98 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's not necessarily about just a love for 99 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: rugby league here. There's a little bit of underlying politics 100 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: where both governments might want to include a team from 101 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 2: Papua New Guinea for reasons that expand beyond the sport exactly. 102 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: And you know, there are similar concerns about P andg's 103 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: relationship with China, and this deal is kind of described 104 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: as part of this broader strategy from the government to 105 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,679 Speaker 1: secure PNG's loyalty as this kind of tension with China 106 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 1: and the South Pacific continues. So you're absolutely right. It's 107 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: a deal that you know, may have impacts or geopolitical 108 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: benefits that expand really far beyond the realms of the 109 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: sporting world. So after months of its seeming like this deal, 110 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: George was getting closer to becoming a reality. You know, 111 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: we had that diplomatic visit last year, the funding announcement, 112 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,799 Speaker 1: more talk more development this year. But those plans came 113 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: to life yesterday, right, and we got some firm details. 114 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was basically a long awaited announcement from Albanese 115 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 2: and marape who held a press conference yesterday to announce 116 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 2: a deal for the Pacific nation to join the NRL 117 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty eight. Both leaders talked about the economic 118 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: benefit of introducing a P and G team. It's the 119 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: most populous nation in the Pacific behind Australia, and much 120 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 2: of the country is in poverty, so the motivation there 121 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 2: to give the country some economic benefit. 122 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: So what has the Australian government actually promised? What are 123 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: the bones of this deal? 124 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: The core part of the announcement is a six hundred 125 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: million dollar allocation over a ten year period, which is money, 126 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: a lot of money. The P ANDNG government announced two 127 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: major components to their end of the deal. A pledge 128 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: to build accommodation and facilities for the new team and 129 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: its players, and all salaries to be tax free, which 130 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: may make a move to PNG to join the team 131 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: more appealing to star players currently with Australian or New 132 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: Zealand teams. 133 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: That's very interesting because I was wondering, you know, is 134 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: the angle going to be that the national team from 135 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: PNG in the NRAL is you know, focused on PNG 136 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: players or will we see a bit of willing and 137 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: dealing here across the league. 138 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 2: I think I've heard talks that they're going to try 139 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: and build an all star team, and the NROL wants 140 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: to make PNG as attractive as possible for families or 141 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: players and their families to relocate from established lives to 142 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: another country start again there. Yeah, absolutely, but it's not 143 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 2: all talk of growth, sport and economic prosperity. Other media 144 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: have reported that there's a clause that allows the Aussie 145 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,559 Speaker 2: government to withdraw from the deal without reason at any 146 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 2: time until twenty thirty five. 147 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: Now, these clause actually loops back to what we were 148 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: talking about earlier because of that kind of wider security 149 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: context at play here. Australia does have a bilateral security 150 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: agreement with P and G, and that's something widely seen 151 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: as being designed to protect Australia from Chinese interference. 152 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: Exactly, and in fact, as part of the NRL deal, 153 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: PNG and Australia reportedly signed a separate agreement called a 154 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: Strategic Trust. The details of that agreement will remain confidential, 155 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 2: but experts believe it involves further guarantees from PNG that 156 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: it will not form closer bonds with China. So it 157 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 2: looks like Australia's ability to withdraw from the deal at 158 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 2: any time could be related to China's present there well. 159 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: So they really will be a lot at stake for 160 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: PNG to kind of manage its diplomatic ties with both 161 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: China and Australia. Nothing like a bit of sport diplomacy, George. 162 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing. Sport is one of the most powerful 163 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: diplomatic tools and we've seen it time and time again 164 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 2: in almost every part of the world. You can find 165 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: examples of sport being used as a political tool. In 166 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: the nineteen eighties, the president of Pakistan went to India 167 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: to watch a test cricket match between the two nations. 168 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 2: It was called cricket diplomacy or cricket for peace. We 169 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 2: saw a similar thing in nineteen ninety five at the 170 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: Rugby World Cup where Nelson Mandela brought the nation together 171 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 2: and the rugby team brought the nation together. You may 172 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: have seen Invictus starring Matt Damon. 173 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: The famous propby union player Matt Damon. 174 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: Or take Saudi Arabia, who yesterday were announced as the 175 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 2: host of the twenty thirty four Fee for World Cup. 176 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 2: They're trying to use the FEFA World Cup and soccer 177 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: as a form of diplomacy to improve their world standing. 178 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: Some are accusing them of sports washing. 179 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: So that's this idea of Saudi Arabian authorities buying up teams, 180 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: hosting events, trying to improve their standing in English speaking countries, 181 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:21,479 Speaker 1: boost tourism by bringing more kind of big ticket stadium 182 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: sporting moments to the. 183 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 2: Country exactly, exactly. And of course sport can be used 184 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 2: as a political tool in the other direction. I'm thinking 185 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: of examples like banning Russian athletes from competing under their 186 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: national flag at the Olympics or in tennis events after 187 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: Russia's invasion of Ukraine. 188 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: So it's using kind of a political climate or global 189 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: contexts through sport to send a message. 190 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, and sport is a platform where there are a 191 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: lot of eyeballs people are watching it, so it can 192 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: be a place to make a really political statement. 193 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: Okay, So clearly this is a really nuanced and layeredst 194 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,239 Speaker 1: a lot more to it than you know. The headlines 195 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: might indicate an NRL expansion story on its own. What 196 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: happens from here, George, what are the next steps? 197 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: Well, there's also discussions for a Perth team to join 198 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: the NRL in twenty twenty seven, and the code has 199 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 2: said that it wants twenty teams by the twenty thirty 200 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: two Olympics in Brisbane, so we'd expect to see a 201 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: P ANDNG NRL team in twenty twenty eight, either as 202 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,239 Speaker 2: the eighteenth or the nineteenth team to join the competition, 203 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 2: and that really depends on the progression of the Perth team. 204 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: Fascinating and much to the disappointment of my mum, the 205 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: North Sydney Bears not making a comeback. 206 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: No, they won't be the Bears unfortunately. 207 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: George. That was fascinating. Thank you so much for talking 208 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,359 Speaker 1: us through that. It's not every day get an opportunity 209 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: to kind of chat geopolitics with the sports journalist. 210 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: What's my pleasure? It was a lot of fun. 211 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: If you want to hear more from George and get 212 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 1: his take on all the big sporting moments in the world, 213 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 1: don't forget to sign up to our sports newsletter. It 214 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: hits her in box at five pm every weekday. It's 215 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: free to sign up. 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