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Speaker 1: On today's show, Sarah's Day's husband Kurt Tills, opens up

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Speaker 1: about his debilitating health condition. The wedding spond con has

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Speaker 1: already begun for the betrothed Jade tunci Anna Paul opens

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Speaker 1: up about life before fame and Mitch Orville's day job. Hello,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the hottest

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Speaker 1: influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm Sophie Torbert,

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Speaker 1: and I do have a dilemma for the listeners and

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Speaker 1: both of you. Are you allowed to return clothes once

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Speaker 1: you've worn them?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Who does? How long are we talking for? One? One

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Speaker 1: day and you haven't sweated in it? Well, not one day,

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Speaker 1: a couple of hours, It depends. I mean, if the

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Speaker 1: clothing is really oversized and it's not what you wanted

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Speaker 1: and you didn't realize when you put it on, it's

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Speaker 1: save the reason why I returned and got away with it.

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Speaker 1: But to be fair, that top you bought was very

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Speaker 1: oversized and it was very expensive, so she got a

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Speaker 1: photo in it as well. Well. I didn't want to

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Speaker 1: share the photo because I don't know how this fear,

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Speaker 1: because I feel like I know the girls in that store.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want them to see. I do feel sorry

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Speaker 1: for the person who gets that top. Now I'm Amu

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Speaker 1: Torbert and my mouth is watering because I have been

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Speaker 1: watching TikTok salad trends for the last ten minutes. You

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Speaker 1: can tell they were all very hungry at the moment.

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Speaker 1: The fact that your mouth is watering over salad. No,

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Speaker 1: but these salads were next level. They looked so delicious.

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Speaker 1: I went and saved them all because I never have

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Speaker 1: any inspo for what to cook at night time, and

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Speaker 1: every time I go to the shops, I just go

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Speaker 1: and get past us. There's this incredible store in Adelaide

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Speaker 1: called jack Greens, and all they do is salads, and

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Speaker 1: I literally wish they had a drive through. You know,

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Speaker 1: when you feel like a healthy sort of takeaway. I know,

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Speaker 1: I always get so jealous of the Kardashians because it

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Speaker 1: seems like there's so many pop up big salad places

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Speaker 1: in La. So I'm Kate Torbert and I am still

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Speaker 1: so sore from my workout at Revau Fitness yesterday. So

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Speaker 1: we're working with Revo because they've opened up a couple

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Speaker 1: of new gyms in Adelaide, and I think a few

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Speaker 1: of you probably would have seen it by now, but

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Speaker 1: we did a real where we were paying our influences

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Speaker 1: at the gym, so I had to be the influence.

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Speaker 1: And it was so embarrassing because the gym was closed

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Speaker 1: to the general public, but there were a few trade's

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Speaker 1: in there and also like Pet's and some of the

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Speaker 1: gym staff. And I was doing these ski pooldowns. I

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Speaker 1: think they're called, I don't know if that's a technical term. Well,

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Speaker 1: for those who haven't seen, you're supposed to just pull

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Speaker 1: your arms down, but instead you were replicating what influencer

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Speaker 1: Sarah's Day does where she does like this full squat

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Speaker 1: that you're not supposed to do. She's like full flogging

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Speaker 1: the thing. Yeah. Yeah, So I was really going for

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Speaker 1: and Amy was filming and this personal trainer comes over.

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Speaker 1: It's like, I'm sorry, I just have to interrupt. You're

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Speaker 1: not doing that correctly, And I was like, sir, it's

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Speaker 1: just like it's just a parody. But we've looked like

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Speaker 1: we were taking it so seriously, because you guys looked

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Speaker 1: like your actual fitness fitspo influencers. Because I'm there with

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Speaker 1: the full on professional camera with like a microphone and everything.

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Speaker 1: It was humarious. It was humiliating, and these traders kept

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Speaker 1: trying to be like, oh, would you like me to

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Speaker 1: get my gear out of the shot? And I had

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Speaker 1: to say, please know that this is just a parody.

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Speaker 1: I would never actually act like this in the gym.

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Speaker 1: What's that love it?

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Speaker 3: I am Sarah's Day and I'm help and fitness guru and.

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Speaker 1: YouTuber Sarah's Day's husband Kurt Tiles, has revealed he's been

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Speaker 1: struggling with a debilitating underlying health condition that's preventing him

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Speaker 1: from training in the gym. Now, Sophie, what did Kurt

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Speaker 1: say about this condition, Well, he did open up about

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Speaker 1: it on the couple's podcast, The Health Code, and he

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Speaker 1: explained that he's recently been diagnosed with fibrant Malaysia as

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Speaker 1: well as an underlying migraine issue. I do apologize for

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Speaker 1: the pronunciation, that is how the couple have been pronouncing it. Now.

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Speaker 1: Kurt has been struggling with this condition for the past

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Speaker 1: four years now, and he was previously diagnosed with siebow

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Speaker 1: because he did have to drastically change his diet. Here's

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Speaker 4: It is so debilitating having these different conditions. Some days,

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Speaker 4: I almost feel like I can't get out of bed. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I wake up most mornings with chronic pain in my back,

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Speaker 3: Such a big part of your personality when we met.

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Speaker 1: I feel really bad for Kurt because it sounds like

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Speaker 1: and there seems to be a bit of uncertainty about

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Speaker 1: what he's actually dealing with. So for those who haven't

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Speaker 1: heard of fiber and malaga, it is a long term

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Speaker 1: chronic condition and it causes symptoms such as muscular skeletal pain,

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Speaker 1: pain and muscles and bones, and general fatigue and sleep

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Speaker 1: and cognitive disturbances. It does say online that the condition

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Speaker 1: can be really hard to understand, even for health professionals,

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Speaker 1: as the symptoms can mimic other conditions, so there aren't

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Speaker 1: really any real tests that can definitively confirm a diagnosis

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Speaker 1: of this condition. It's pretty interesting because, as you said,

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Speaker 1: it's a condition that not many people know about. But

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Speaker 1: Sarah's day sister Talia, has also been recently diagnosed with

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Speaker 1: so as you said, Amy, the diagnosis does really seem

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Speaker 1: tough for someone like Kurt. He is only thirty three.

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Speaker 1: He's quite an active dad, and he's been brought up

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Speaker 1: And he said that he's now living this very sedatory

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Speaker 1: It's pretty scary because Kurt said when he does work out,

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Speaker 1: it feels like he's about to have a heart attack.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to what he said.

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Speaker 4: I had these episodes that feel like a heart attack,

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Speaker 4: right essentially last one I had. I had blurry vision,

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Speaker 4: I could almost not see. I'd stopped driving my car.

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Speaker 4: Sarah had to come out. I got an ambulance to

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Speaker 4: the hospital, went through the process of all all the

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Speaker 4: stuff to check my heart. All good, everything's fine, send off.

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Speaker 4: You got migraines. That's it. I have no answers. I

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Speaker 4: I have one of these crazy episodes. It feels like

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Speaker 1: The conversation did become quite critical after they explained the

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Speaker 1: whole condition, and they seem to be criticizing doctors who

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Speaker 1: uncomfortable listening to it. It did come a lot from Sarah.

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Speaker 1: Here's what they both said on the matter.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the hardest part about a lot of

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Speaker 3: these underlying health conditions is a lot of the time

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Speaker 3: identify is this really what's going on. A lot of

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Speaker 3: doctors had kind of done with you, stabbing in the dark.

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Speaker 1: I feel like Sarah's day has an interesting relationship with

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Speaker 1: Western medicine because a lot of her early youtubes she

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Speaker 1: did favor Chinese medicine, So I do feel like Sarah

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Speaker 1: perspect it would be very frustrating, particularly when they've been

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Speaker 1: I do worry that the negative tone, though, might put

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Speaker 1: because that really is the first step when you have

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Speaker 1: an underlying health condition. And I just thought, yeah, maybe

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Speaker 1: thought it was good because it's like, you know, if

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Speaker 1: they're kind of saying we'll go and seek a second opinion.

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Speaker 1: That's what I took. I think abdicating for different opinions

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Speaker 1: it's probably in bad taste to say that they didn't

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Speaker 1: even more. Because originally they spoke about him having cea

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Speaker 1: bow and he was on this plan and feeling a

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Speaker 1: And it was super awkward because the day before this episode,

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Speaker 1: a very uncomfortable episode to listen to. I feel like

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Speaker 1: this is not looking good or sounding good. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: one of the things that she said that she's better

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Speaker 1: in a circuit. Sarah then said, oh, can we film

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Speaker 1: this circuit as part of the podcast and Kurt replied no,

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Speaker 1: I would probably have a heart attack. So instead of

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Speaker 1: you know, backing down getting off that topic, Sarah said

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Speaker 1: that she needed to have an intervention with Kurt about

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Speaker 1: Here's what was said.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about that tomorrow, about how when your body

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Speaker 3: and your mind aren't in alignment, and how do you

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Speaker 3: deal with either being injured or sick in terms of training.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about that tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it.

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Speaker 3: Love you guys, and tune into that one because I'm

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Speaker 3: going to talk to Kurt about how he is a

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Speaker 3: little bitch.

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Speaker 1: Bye. Whenever I listened to this podcast, I just can't

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Speaker 1: believe some of it goes to air because if they

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Speaker 1: obviously work with Spotify and there's producers that would be

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Speaker 1: cut some of this shit out. I think it's a

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Speaker 1: situation of them surrounding themselves with yes people, so it's

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Speaker 1: by Lovely Now. Something that did bother me throughout this

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Speaker 1: Because sometimes it can be confusing when influencers tag every

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Speaker 1: brand and list everyone, like, you don't know, are they

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Speaker 1: just trying to be nice? Are they getting paid for this?

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Speaker 1: The interesting thing about jar Day's approach is that normally

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Speaker 1: influencers will do it after the wedding, so when they

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Speaker 1: actually upload the photo of them and their partner it's

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Speaker 1: the first look at everything. They then tag all the brands.

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Speaker 1: So I haven't really seen an influencer recently approach it

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Speaker 1: this way where they're actually giving you an look into

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Speaker 1: what they're choosing. I think quite often influencers will show

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Speaker 1: off the wedding dresses that they're trying on, but they

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Speaker 1: won't actually show the one they peek. I was going

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Speaker 1: to say, apart from the wedding dress approach, and they

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Speaker 1: normally say this is the brand I'm going with, and

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Speaker 1: this is a dress that I'm not going to wear.

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Speaker 1: I have never seen the wedding bands be done in

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Speaker 1: this way. It's quite clever. It's kind of like when

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Speaker 1: someone's having a baby and you see the full lead

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Speaker 1: after them getting because I mean, I did enjoy the content,

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Speaker 1: I was just bothered that it wasn't listed sponsored. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The thing is, though, don't you feel like once you

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Speaker 1: see the picture from the wedding of the couple, it's

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Speaker 1: the first look You're interest in seeing any more wedding

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Speaker 1: photos is just zero after that, Like it's more exciting

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Speaker 1: leading up to the video. Yeah. Yeah, But other than that,

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Speaker 1: you know when people to share too many wedding photos

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Speaker 1: and you like give it a rest. But now now

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Speaker 1: they don't know how much these wedding photos cost. I

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Speaker 1: can understand why they do it.

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Speaker 2: But what was crazy is like because the way that

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Speaker 2: we grow up and the way society is like when

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Speaker 2: we first met, I actually needed an excuse for our friendship.

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Speaker 2: So I went into business first because it was like,

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Speaker 2: what an easier way to explain, like who he is

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Speaker 2: in my life than to say we're in business together,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Mitch a of All, has started a new job this week.

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Speaker 1: The new venture comes after the former influencer closed his

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Speaker 1: takeaway shop in June, less than four months after opening. Okay,

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Speaker 1: tell us more about Mitch's job. So, as we discussed

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Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, mitshared on the Corey Boutwell podcast

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Speaker 1: that he is becoming a mentor.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: I didn't really know what that meant, and to be honest,

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Speaker 1: because I thought it might be one of those things

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Speaker 1: where you might call someone up and I didn't think

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Speaker 1: that it would be an actual office job. So Chloe

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Speaker 1: shared that she was alone home with her two sons

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Speaker 1: for the first time ever since giving birth to Sonny

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Speaker 1: because Mitch had started his new job and I was like, wow,

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Speaker 1: so it's actually outside of the house. Then influencer Updates

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Speaker 1: AAU reported that Mitch spent the day at a company

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Speaker 1: called Business Kits. Now, we did a little bit of

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Speaker 1: investigating into this company and the CEO is none other

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Speaker 1: than Mitch's close friend and former cafe owner Diego Greco Jiggialoy. Well,

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Speaker 1: he was talking on the podcast how he was getting

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Speaker 1: Mitch to come and mental HInM but I didn't realize

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Speaker 1: he was doing it for the whole business. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: I'm still a little bit confused as to how Mitch

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Speaker 1: is actually going to be working in this business because

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Speaker 1: the company promotes itself on Instagram as Australia's number one

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Speaker 1: business companion that puts the power back into the hands

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Speaker 1: of the people, and the company sells online subscription that

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Speaker 1: provide legal document templates. So I did a bit more

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Speaker 1: digging because it all wasn't really making sense, and I

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Speaker 1: came across the Instagram profile of the company's visionary and founder,

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Speaker 1: Serena Igors, and she shared a photo with Diego and

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Speaker 1: Mitch with the caption watch this space and follow us

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Speaker 1: to see our journey unfold as we challenge the hurt

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Speaker 1: the corporate world has created. She added, blessed to be

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Speaker 1: working with creative geniuses with big hearts now. Serena also

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Speaker 1: shared a snippet from a meeting where Mitch addressed the group.

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Speaker 1: Let's throw to what he said, especially.

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Speaker 4: When it's online.

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Speaker 2: So when he hear someone like Serena's words and you

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Speaker 2: can tell that they're type and they're written like that

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Speaker 2: so deep and personally, you want to connect, you want

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Speaker 2: to listen, you.

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Speaker 4: Want to read more.

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Speaker 2: So I think it's about asking to show that as

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Speaker 2: quickly in it now.

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Speaker 1: Another story of Serena's was her talking about creating NFTs

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Speaker 1: and I know Mitch is interested in that, so I

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Speaker 1: wonder if this sort of mentoring has anything to do

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Speaker 1: with that side of the business, because I wouldn't think

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Speaker 1: you would have much knowledge about legal things. I'm kind

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Speaker 1: of confused because isn't if you had a mentor, Kate,

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Speaker 1: it would be you know, you would have a marketing mentor,

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Speaker 1: Like who is he actually mentor? I'm wondering if it's

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Speaker 1: all around social media and how to improve the company's profile.

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Speaker 1: He kind of just sounds like an inspirational speaker, But

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Speaker 1: why would you get Mitch Orville to do that when

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Speaker 1: he's quit social media and couldn't really hack being on

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Speaker 1: the platform, Like, it just doesn't make sense to me.

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Speaker 1: I feel like mentor is sort of the woo woo

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Speaker 1: sort of term for advisor. Mitch is clearly not working

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Speaker 1: at this business full time. He's you know, coming in

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Speaker 1: and out, floating in and out when they need something.

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Speaker 1: I do wonder how much they'll get out of him

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Speaker 1: being there. Well, I think they might be using him

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Speaker 1: for profile because I looked at the Instagram and they'd

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Speaker 1: actually reshared influencer updates AU post about you working there,

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Speaker 1: which I was like, this is a bit odd. So

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Speaker 1: they tipped the They probably tip them off. Yeah, maybe

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Speaker 1: it's also an opportunity for Mitch to get a run

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Speaker 1: on the board and then start being a mentor for

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Speaker 1: other large brands. Yeah. Well, when I saw Mitch at

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Speaker 1: the office, it just reminded me how daunting it is

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Speaker 1: starting a new job, and it made me reflect on

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Speaker 1: all the awkward moments and the doubt that you have

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Speaker 1: when you start a job. Because my first day at

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Speaker 1: the thirty six is i'd moved over from the Thunderbirds

543
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Speaker 1: and I used to have it pretty good at thunderbirds.

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Speaker 1: I got the new MacBook computer and I had a

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Speaker 1: nice desk and office, and I moved across and I

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Speaker 1: was sitting in a red room with no windows. And

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Speaker 1: I thought I'd be sitting in the main office with

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Speaker 1: all the cool people, including my now fiance, but I

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Speaker 1: was actually sitting in the office with two older ladies.

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Speaker 1: Is that when you just feel like I've made the

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Speaker 1: wrong Yeah. And then I got given my computer and

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Speaker 1: it was an old brick and I didn't even get

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Speaker 1: a mouse. I got given a novelty advertiser mouse, which

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Speaker 1: I did not complain about. The computer you got when

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Speaker 1: I used to work at a radio station, I got

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Speaker 1: the oldest looking laptop. Didn't have something one's pawn on

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Speaker 1: it as well. Yes, so the person who used to

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Speaker 1: work before me. I opened these folders and there was

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Speaker 1: like this hardcore, like strange vegetable pawn going on. It

560
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 1: was like. The funniest bit about that was that you

561
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: got called into HR because you left seven under this

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00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: sort of HR drama and they wanted to make sure

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00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 1: that you weren't going to complain about it. They offered

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Speaker 1: me counseling. I was like, it's all good, but so

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00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,239
Speaker 1: this computer though, like I was their digital person and

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Speaker 1: you had to have it plugged in the whole time,

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Speaker 1: Like you couldn't even use it as a separate laptop.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, how am I meant to go out

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Speaker 1: to radio, like you know when they set up off yeah,

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Speaker 1: off site, and I've got this freaking laptop. I think

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Speaker 1: I can beat you guys though, because when I left

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Speaker 1: Channel seven, I started at a PR firm and we

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00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: were on Heinley Street, which is sort of like King's

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00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 1: Cross for those who live in Sydney, so very notorious. Yeah,

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00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: it's a very notorious street. Sit goes down on that

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00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: street and yeah there's lots of nightclubs, lots of strip clubs,

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Speaker 1: and basically I rock up and I'm working in this

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Speaker 1: one person office, but there's like four or five of

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Speaker 1: us in there. We were like shoulder to shoulder. Oh

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Speaker 1: yousta love getting your calls because you also had to

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00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 1: pay a huge amount of parking every day and you

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00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 1: go up and in the lift and be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: someone's vomited in here today or someone's today. I look.

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00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,719
Speaker 1: My view from the window was literally these bars and

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00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 1: then the car park that I would bark. I remember

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Speaker 1: my first day today tonight, I was fresh out of

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Speaker 1: UNI and I walked in and they introduced me to everyone.

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Speaker 1: But they were having a meeting and I couldn't believe

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00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: it that they were talking about their stories and they're like,

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00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: this week we're doing the cookie diet, then we're doing

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Speaker 1: this expose. And I was like, I think I found

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00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: my people, Like this sounds incredible. Well, to all of

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Speaker 1: those who have office jobs, I feel for you, and

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Speaker 1: I hope you all have a lovely weekend. And I

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Speaker 1: wrap things up. I actually have one breaking story before

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00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: we leave that I feel like the people must know about.

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Speaker 1: Sammy Robinson has dyed her hair brown, and I don't

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Speaker 1: know how I feel about it. Yeah, I thought this

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00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: was a joke because I did set love her hair.

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Speaker 1: She is such a blonde bombshell. I mean she looks gorgeous.

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00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: I mean she could cuddle her hair with the brown hair,

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Speaker 1: did you hear? Apparently she came in and asked her

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00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: dad what he thought, and he said, I think you're

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00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: a better blonde, and that's always so honest. And then

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00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 1: Sammy told her followers and he's like, no, darling, you

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Speaker 1: look lovely. You look lovely. It was so swell. That's

607
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: like the one I had a chemical peel and Dad's

608
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: had like a circus freak. That's a bit harsher. Her

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00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: eyes just pop with that brown hair, though. I reckon

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Speaker 1: she was regretting it though, because she said she was

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00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: tossing up whether to go short or brunette because she

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00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: wanted a change. And she posted this story this morning saying, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about it. Still, I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to get used to it. She'll be back blonde soon.

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Speaker 1: It reminds me of when Olivia Rodgers died her hair,

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Speaker 1: because I still feel like she has the urge to

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Speaker 1: go back to blonde. Yeah. Well, I think that is

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Speaker 1: all we have time for today. Thank you so much

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