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Speaker 1: Welcome to The Wrap, a weekly podcast covering women's sports news. Bez,

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Speaker 1: what have we got around the grounds this week?

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Speaker 2: The nights go from at Wooden Spooner's to Premiers Ople's

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Speaker 2: win bronze in front of a loud home crowd, and

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Speaker 2: Gina Ryan Hart jumps on as a major sponsor of

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Speaker 2: the AUSSI Diamonds.

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Speaker 1: For our key story, we'll discuss the ridiculous clickbait claims

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Speaker 1: of continued misogyny from the great horrible man that is

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Speaker 1: Steve Price. My name is Chloe Dalton. I'm an Olympic

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Speaker 1: gold medalist in rugby sevens and I also play afow

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Speaker 1: for the GWS Giants. Every week on the show, I'm

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Speaker 1: joined by my co host Bez, who works across all

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Speaker 1: things rugby women's sport, runs all the behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: at the Female Athlete Project. Bes We've had a huge

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Speaker 1: weekend slash week of women's sport.

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Speaker 3: I'm exhausted.

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Speaker 2: You pretty much set up camp at Homebush for the

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Speaker 2: last ten days.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we were saying I probably should have just booked

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Speaker 1: a hotel room out there. I think I was out

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Speaker 1: there every day of the week, whether it was for training,

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Speaker 1: watching the opals, NRLW Grand Final on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: There was a lot going on.

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Speaker 2: At the Mayor of Homebush.

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Speaker 1: The mayor actually been given the keys to the city.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a look around the grounds. In NRLW, the

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Speaker 1: Newcastle Knights have gone from wooden spooners to NRLW champions

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Speaker 1: in the space of six months. On Sunday, they faced

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Speaker 1: an informed Paramatta Eels team who were riding a wave

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Speaker 1: of confidence after they knocked off the unbeaten Sydney Roosters

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Speaker 1: in the semifinals.

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Speaker 3: The week before.

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Speaker 1: Sadly, for the huge number of Paraffans in the stadium

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Speaker 1: in the Blue and Gold, Para were outclassed on the day.

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Speaker 1: It actually probably was a lot to do with the

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Speaker 1: fact that I was on the Para bandwagon.

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Speaker 3: I've been.

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Speaker 1: I've been a parafan for as long as i can remember,

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Speaker 1: since at least last Monday. I would say it.

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Speaker 2: Was definitely definitely the way of you job on their backs,

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Speaker 2: unnecessary expectations and we apologize to all parafans for the

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm sorry about it.

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Speaker 1: I think it's probably more likely that it was actually

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Speaker 1: the big off season recruiting Milli Boil and Tamika Upton

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Speaker 1: was so like they just showed their class. I think

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Speaker 1: it was an interesting one for those two. Probably they

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Speaker 1: knew that they had a lot of weight on their

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Speaker 1: shoulders going into something like that, and they stepped up

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Speaker 1: and performed as all great athletes do. Millie Boyle ran

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Speaker 1: for a huge two hundred and seventy one meters, while

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Speaker 1: Upton received the Karen Murphy Medal following a Player of

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Speaker 1: the Match performance. She was immense in defense and she

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Speaker 1: was very impressive under the high ball. A few a

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Speaker 1: few tricky ones that came her way and she never

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Speaker 1: really looked in doubt from taking one of them for

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Speaker 1: the Eels. There, skipper Samma Taufa again showed why she's

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Speaker 1: one of the most respected players in the game. She

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Speaker 1: made forty tackles in the Grand Final, and her try

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Speaker 3: She's so hard to stop when.

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Speaker 1: She get it's going, so that got her team to

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Speaker 1: within six points with fifteen minutes to play. Shortly later,

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Speaker 1: Gail brought and looked like she had scored a try

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Speaker 1: that could bring the Eels level at eighteen all. However,

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Speaker 1: after review, sometimes I hate the review because I'm just

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Speaker 1: like just award the try, but it actually turned out

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Speaker 1: that she'd pushed Yasmin Clydesdale in the back when she

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Speaker 1: was chasing the kick, so that try was disallowed. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: that was the last chance for the Eels and it

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Speaker 1: kind of went a little bit downhill for them after that.

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Speaker 1: The Knights cranked up the intensity and scored three times

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Speaker 1: to thirty two to twelve at full time. It was

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Speaker 1: a bit disappointing because I don't feel like that was

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Speaker 1: a real reflection of the game. It was really hard

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Speaker 1: Ford and it was really close until those last five minutes,

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Speaker 1: but probably showed that the Knights were the deserving winner

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Speaker 1: on the day. And I think the Eels did a

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Speaker 1: very good job to get to the Grand Final in

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Speaker 1: the first place. It was the first Grand Final for

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Speaker 1: the two teams who were only in their second year

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Speaker 1: of NROLW and I I think a very good example

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Speaker 1: of teams that invest in their players will be rewarded.

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Speaker 1: You can't really get a better example than the Newcastle

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Speaker 3: There was plenty said about those.

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Speaker 1: Signings earlier on in the year when they moved from

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Speaker 1: the Brisbane Broncos for big money and unsurprisingly they've experienced success.

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Speaker 1: Seventeen year old Jesse south Well played half back for

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Speaker 1: She showed she's got a huge amount of talent and

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Speaker 1: has no and will no doubt be at the center

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Speaker 1: of a battle for her signature in future. Jesse was

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Speaker 1: quick to call out her older sister Hannah, who injured

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Speaker 1: her acl in round one, saying that Hannah built the

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Speaker 3: Though she wasn't on the field. As pretty cute the

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Speaker 1: The game was played as a double header with the

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Speaker 1: Entierrol Grand Final and by halftime of the women's game,

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Speaker 1: there were forty two, nine hundred and twenty one fans

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Speaker 1: in there and they were absolutely loving it and we

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Speaker 1: love seeing the rule.

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Speaker 3: Is that how you say that name?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? The rule? It's a hard my name it's weird.

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Speaker 1: We love seeing the th rule under twelve girls team

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Speaker 1: present the winners with their premiership rings.

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Speaker 2: Great spectacle, awesome game of rugby league in AFL W

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Speaker 2: six rounds down, four to go and it's tight at

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Speaker 2: the top. There are four teams, real tight. There are

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Speaker 2: four teams currently sitting on five wins and one loss,

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Speaker 2: with percentages the only thing that's separating them. The Brisbane

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Speaker 2: Lines lead the way from Adelaide, Melbourne and Collingwood. The

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Speaker 2: fourth place Pies won a real close one on the weekend,

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Speaker 2: with Eliza James's last gasp goal securing a two point

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Speaker 2: win for Collingwood over Saint Kilda. Unfortunately for the Saints,

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Speaker 2: they had a really big chance to upset the bag Pies.

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Speaker 2: Went forward Nick Stevens ran into an open goal with

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Speaker 2: four goals twelve thirty six to five goals four thirty four.

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Speaker 2: After the match James said, I just threw it on

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Speaker 2: don't hate that honesty. In another close match, our game

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Speaker 2: of the Round between Richmond and Gold Coast saw the

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Speaker 2: Tigers extend their unbeaten run to four games. Emilia yas

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Speaker 2: I put the Tigers in front with less than two

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Speaker 2: for a three five twenty three to three one nineteen win.

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Speaker 2: And finally, it was great to see the GWS Giants go.

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Speaker 2: The Giant bounce back from a record loss last week

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Speaker 2: Dispatch Carlton four five twenty nine to one six twelve.

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Speaker 2: Emilyp scored two early goals, and once Studio scot themselves

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Speaker 2: Correstal and Nattitude goals herself and finished with a close

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Speaker 1: In basketball, what we talked about living out at home Bush,

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Speaker 3: It was so much fun.

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Speaker 1: I haven't felt that invested in basketball in a really

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Speaker 1: long time. I finished up in the WNBL a number

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Speaker 3: Couple of other sports. But it was a really cool

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Speaker 1: And I think we'll get into the Opals performance, but

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Speaker 1: I think overall, just the team culture of the Opals

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Speaker 1: got around each other and supported each other. I felt

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Speaker 1: like was a very healing moment for a lot of

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Speaker 1: people who maybe were a little bit had been a

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Speaker 1: a great time.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I totally agree, and you're right. I love that

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Speaker 2: we spoke about culture is a funny word and it's

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Speaker 2: something that gets thrown around a lot. But I think

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Speaker 2: after the debacle is she who shan't be named, there

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Speaker 2: was a need for some healing in that group, and

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Speaker 2: it's obviously happened behind the scenes, but then we we

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Speaker 2: were just I just felt so privileged to see the

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Speaker 2: a group on the court. It was it was really

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Speaker 2: there for everyone to see that watched them. They played

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Speaker 3: Yeah they did.

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Speaker 1: At the event, the best basketball was in the world

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Speaker 1: were on display and they did not disappoint. A close

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Speaker 1: second to the players in the performance rating were the fans.

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Speaker 3: So this is so cool.

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Speaker 1: Fever confirmed that the Sydney Tournament had the highest overall

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Speaker 1: attendance in the history of the competition. One hundred and

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Speaker 1: forty five, five hundred and nineteen fans went through the

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Speaker 1: turnstiles at Home Bush and they were loud. None were

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Speaker 1: Aussie opals destroy Canada in the bronze match and Team

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Speaker 1: USA handled China in the gold medal match.

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Speaker 2: Just jumping in just on those numbers too, I think

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Speaker 2: a lot of There was a bit of chat around

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Speaker 2: some empty seats during that bronze medal match. What happened

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Speaker 2: was fevers sold. The Finals day is two matches now

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Speaker 2: we'll probably talk about later, but the Chinese team have

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Speaker 3: Huge, like huge. I don't know if I've been at

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Speaker 3: a sporting event that's been that.

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Speaker 2: Loud, amazing, and obviously jumped on and snapped up a

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Speaker 2: as is they're right made the choice to not get

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Speaker 2: So definitely not a kickoff tip off, But yeah, I

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Speaker 3: Let's quickly address this gold medal match.

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Speaker 1: So the Chinese team had battled hard the night before

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Speaker 1: to get past our opals by two points, and it

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Speaker 1: may have just taken its toll on that Chinese team.

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Speaker 1: Asia Wilson for the US scored nineteen points and Kelsey

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Speaker 1: Plumb added seventeen to help the US to another World

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Speaker 1: Cup title, winning eighty three to sixty one. Wilson and

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Speaker 1: Plum arrived a little late to the tournament, fresh off

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Speaker 1: with the Las Vegas Aces. That late start did not

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Speaker 1: stop Wilson from winning the MVP award of the entire tournament,

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Speaker 1: which was an impressive tisso watch have you? Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: her and the press was the best thing I've ever

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Speaker 1: seen so good. She walks in with a bottle of champagne.

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Speaker 3: With her watch. According to my tissou watch, we're gold medalists.

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Speaker 3: She's amazing lover. We got to chat to her postgame.

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Speaker 1: We made it in time to chat to I need

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Speaker 3: Investment will be.

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Speaker 1: Spain women's all time record scorer Jenny Himoso says the

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Speaker 2: This is all going to end poorly at some point.

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Speaker 2: in Australia. We're excited they have chosen to partner with

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Speaker 2: We have put too much into our sport to give

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Speaker 1: business and where do you stand as an athlete who

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Speaker 1: wants to advocate for things like sustainability and making sure

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Speaker 1: that we're doing things that prevent the impacts of climate change.

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Speaker 3: I don't really know what the right answer is.

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Speaker 2: No, it's difficult, and I think you've now that they're

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Speaker 2: the Unfortunately, the suitors that tend to come knocking on

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Speaker 2: the door with the big money have oftentimes found that

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Speaker 2: big money in places that morally are challenging for everyone involved.

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Speaker 3: Let's take a look at the key story.

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Speaker 2: On Friday, a Steve Price authored article appeared in the

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Speaker 2: Murdock Press, and, without being too outrage it was filled

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Speaker 2: with no facts and nothing but clickbait. But clicks had

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Speaker 2: got and therefore we feel compelled to address some of

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Speaker 2: the claims made by mister Price. Price referenced the previous

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Speaker 2: week's results, including a record margin, and noted that if

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Speaker 2: the same situation arose in the Senior men's AFL competition,

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Speaker 2: there would be calls for a royal commission. Probably sollyh dramatic,

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Speaker 2: but there we are. Unfortunately, the comparison is just blood

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Speaker 2: out ridiculous, just a little bit of fact checking for

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Speaker 2: mister Price. The AFLW is in its seventh season and

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Speaker 2: sixth year. The players are part time athletes jugging juggling jugging.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes they jug postseason, they jugged juggling full time work

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Speaker 2: and training. Men began playing the sport in eighteen ninety six.

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Speaker 2: It's a while ago not even I was born. Then,

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Speaker 2: the VFL introduced a salary cap in nineteen eighty seven

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Speaker 2: of one point twenty five million. That cap has increased

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Speaker 2: steadily to its current level for the twenty twenty two

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Speaker 2: season of thirteen point one million. That's per teen by

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Speaker 2: our calculations, Male AFL athletes have been full time professionals

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Speaker 2: for thirty five years. So when the AFLW athletes become

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Speaker 2: full time professionals, and I say when, not if and

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Speaker 2: have been that way for thirty five years, maybe Price's

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Speaker 2: comparisons might be worth considering. Price then called out the standard,

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Speaker 2: saying it's not deserving the tension and funding it gets

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Speaker 2: the VFL. Plus, all men's metropolitan country teams are better

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Speaker 2: to watch, and the standard of players superior to AFLW

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Speaker 2: seenior's high school boys football is better to watch. He

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Speaker 2: continues by saying the country and metropolitan football has been

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Speaker 2: starved at funding by the AFL who instead of chosen

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Speaker 2: to spend money on the AFLW.

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Speaker 1: Before we even get into addressing some of those points

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Speaker 1: even further, I just wanted to actually read out the

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Speaker 1: headline of an article that he released a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks ago, titled non binary bathrooms, no TV adds without

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Speaker 1: colored or Asian people.

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Speaker 3: This old white man is sick of it all.

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Speaker 2: Looks he was born a white hetero man. He's look,

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Speaker 2: he's had a really rough life. We need to be

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Speaker 2: concerned for mister Price's well being.

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Speaker 1: I just I just am trying to imagine like his

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Speaker 1: boss saying, oh, Steve was struggling for clicks this week.

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Speaker 1: We all know you're a racist. Can you write this

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Speaker 1: article this week and then we all know you're a misogynist.

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Speaker 1: We need an article about AFLW. And there he goes, well.

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Speaker 2: This is it, and this is the other thing that

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Speaker 2: you know. The Herald's son prints those articles and then

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Speaker 2: purports to support the AFLW. You know, yes, we're supporters

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Speaker 2: of female athletes. It's well you're not, because you're you're

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Speaker 2: allowing this guy to the spread absolute falsities.

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Speaker 1: Male players, including schoolboys, have been playing the game unhindered

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Speaker 1: and supported since they were toddlers. Female athletes currently playing

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Speaker 1: senior footy grew up having to play alongside the boys,

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Speaker 1: which was daunting for many until they got too old,

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Speaker 1: and then they had to choose another sport because opportunities

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Speaker 1: and support for girls playing footy didn't exist. When we're

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Speaker 1: speaking about struggling clubs needing financial support from the AFL,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting to note that there are a large number

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Speaker 1: of clubs in footy that credit the explosion of girls

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Speaker 1: and women playing AFL with a major injection of funds

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Speaker 1: and members. The growth of a number of traditional male

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Speaker 1: sports in recent years can be attributed to the addition

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Speaker 1: of female athletes to the game, and there's actually data

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Speaker 1: that backs that up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and speaking from experience in rugby union that we're

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Speaker 2: a number of clubs that have, you know, absolutely champion

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Speaker 2: the fact that the girls rugby union and means rugby

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Speaker 2: union has saved their clubs.

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Speaker 1: If you'd like to have something slightly nicer and more

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Speaker 1: refreshing to read, bez you found a great article written

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Speaker 1: by Pamela Whaley on Code Sports. She writes about the

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Speaker 1: different approaches that the NLW and AFLW have taken when

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Speaker 1: it comes to expansion and growing the game. People have

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Speaker 1: criticized the NRL for being slow to expand and the

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Speaker 1: AFL for diluting the talent when expanding to all eighteen

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Speaker 1: clubs this season. Instead of criticizing either code or the

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Speaker 1: wonderful product both are already producing. She looks to the future,

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Speaker 1: a future where she says, there will be women's teams

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Speaker 1: for each club, and the pathways will be solid and thriving.

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Speaker 1: No matter how the NLW or AFLW competitions were started,

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Speaker 1: the talent at the top will be elite, full of

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Speaker 1: athletes who have had quality training from a young age,

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Speaker 1: free to develop their skills and progress through a system

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Speaker 1: that encourages them to succeed.

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Speaker 3: Just like the men have always had. And I'll let

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Speaker 3: you finish off this one, Bez.

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Speaker 2: I did light the way that we just both nodded

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Speaker 2: through that those last seven words there. She wrote also

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Speaker 2: in that article, thirty years from now, it won't matter

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Speaker 2: how they started, only that they.

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Speaker 3: Did so good.

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Speaker 2: Love that we are talking about it. We're kind of

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Speaker 2: almost contributing to the noise, but we thought it was

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Speaker 2: important to address a lot of this comment commentary I've

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Speaker 2: seen around it. It's so true, you know what, Steve Rice.

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Speaker 2: If AVLB is not for you, great, don't watch it, mate,

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Speaker 2: walk on like it doesn't. We don't need we don't

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Speaker 2: need you. It's for it's for thousands and thousands of

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Speaker 2: other people and little girls and yeah it just mate.

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Speaker 2: If you don't like it, that's great, you know, don't

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Speaker 2: watch it and try not to spill vitrol in your articles.

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Speaker 2: I know that's tough for you though.

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Speaker 3: Let's take a look at what to watch.

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Speaker 2: In rugby union. It's been a long wait, but the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one World Cup is about to kick off

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand. Saturday was the start of the tournament,

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Speaker 2: which features twelve of the best teams from and we're

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Speaker 2: around the world battle it out to be crowned World champs.

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Speaker 2: The first three games we played at Eden Park in Auckland,

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Speaker 2: with the final match of the night between the host

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Black Ferns and our own Wallaroos. So the

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Speaker 2: day is probably going to see some records tumble. With

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Speaker 2: over thirty thousand tickets already snapped up, organizers are hoping

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Speaker 2: they will sell the remaining tickets for the forty seven

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Speaker 2: thousand seat venue, but regardless, the record for biggest crowd

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Speaker 2: added women's Rugby World Cup match, which was twenty thousand

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Speaker 2: in the twenty fourteen final in France, will be smashed.

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Speaker 3: How good, so good.

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Speaker 2: The Wallerwoes will be looking to start the tornt with

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Speaker 2: a strong show against the Black Ferns, who, along with England,

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Speaker 2: are favorites for the title. The game kicks off on

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Speaker 2: Saturday at five point fifteen Australian Eastern daylight time. Clocks

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Speaker 2: changed yesterday. That was tricky confusing. Make sure you make

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Speaker 2: sure you yell loud enough they can hear across the ditch.

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Speaker 2: The game will be live on nine GM, Free to

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Speaker 2: Wear and stand Sport AFLW.

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Speaker 1: Fifth Place North Melbourne Kangaroos will host the first place

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Speaker 1: Brisbane Lines on Saturday at Arden Street Oval. It should

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Speaker 1: be an absolute cracker. The game starts at five ten

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Speaker 1: pm a DT and you can watch live on the

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Speaker 1: seven network, Fox Cel and on the AFLW app.

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Speaker 2: The Matildas will continue their search for form before the

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Speaker 2: World Cup with two friendlies in the next week. On Saturday,

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Speaker 2: they play South Africa in London, kickoff ten thirty pm

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Speaker 2: a DT and you can watch live on ten, Bold

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Speaker 2: Tenplay and Paramount Plus. And then on Tuesday local time

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Speaker 2: but Wednesday morning our time, they travel to Denmark to

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Speaker 2: face the Danes. That match will pickoff at three am

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Speaker 2: a DT on Wednesday, and we.

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Speaker 1: Are doing our first ever live audience for a podcast recording.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be this Thursday at six pm at

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Speaker 1: Budge Smuggler HQ in Manly in Sydney, New South Wales.

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Speaker 1: I've put a link up in our stories on at

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Speaker 1: the Female Athlete Projects. You can go and like the

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Speaker 1: form if you're keen to come along with a friend,

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Speaker 1: and we'll be announcing the winners today Tuesday at midday,

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Speaker 1: So make sure you're getting quick for that one if you're.

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Speaker 3: Keen to come along and watch that one.

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Speaker 1: The final stop of the Red Bull Cliff Diving World

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Speaker 1: Tour will be held in Sydney in the Harbor on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: the fifteenth of October.

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Speaker 3: Get that in the dary. It's going to be epic.

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Speaker 2: So we're jumping off missus mcquarie's chair into the passive.

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Speaker 3: Wait and that's the rap.

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Speaker 2: Well one friend, great job, good effort after your home

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Speaker 2: Bush residency.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: This podcast drops every Tuesday morning six am. Subscribe to

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Speaker 1: the newsletter as well if you want to get it

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Speaker 1: in your email to read with your morning coffee. Link

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Speaker 1: in the show notes. See you there, see you next week.

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Speaker 1: Gay bye bye