1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: This is gem nation. 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 2: We're down to the genesy matter, arms to the pub test. 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 2: Mandatory National service for school leaves. Does it passed the 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: pub test. I've gone through the whole gamut of the 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: emotion of this. I mean when I was a kid 6 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: and they proposed it back and then because this has 7 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: been going on for so long, I went no way. 8 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: Man. 9 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 3: Every older generation says you should bring in Nashow and 10 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 3: you're now that generally. 11 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: Become that generations like Megan the mechanics. Every generation blames 12 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 2: the one before. 13 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 3: Well Tony Abbott has called for young Australians to give 14 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 3: something back to the country. Here's what he said. 15 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 4: I think we need to start having a conversation about 16 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 4: national service, whether it's putting on the uniform and becoming 17 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 4: at least a basically trained infantry soldier, whether it's going 18 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 4: to work in a remote Indigenous community, whether it's maybe 19 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 4: deploying as a kind of an Australian Peace Corps. 20 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 2: We just had Magne Zubanski and we were just talking 21 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 2: about something else with the TV show that she's doing 22 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: on the ABC, but she waited in, Oh my god. 23 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 3: We already burdened young people with massive student debt. 24 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 5: Would it be better if it was voluntary and they 25 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 5: could do something that was really. 26 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: About their future, like working to transitions from fossil fuels, but. 27 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 5: Instead of some old dude's fantasy about the past. 28 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 3: She said, it would be good if you volunteered and 29 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 3: it actually went towards paying off your university debt. 30 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: I think that's a good idea. 31 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: Well, what did you think mandatory National service for school leaves? 32 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 3: Is it past the pub test? 33 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, it does, especially if you're on some sort of 34 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 5: government payment like the doll If you can't find yourself 35 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 5: a full time job, you do National service instead. 36 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 3: I think no. 37 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: Now I've got a few friends who aren't here anymore 38 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: because of the NAM. No, of course it does. 39 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 5: Kids these days need to hard enough. I need to 40 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 5: get off think of the parents' counsels and having to 41 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 5: go on their own. 42 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: As a former army soldier myself, I've been saying this 43 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: for years, that they should have something like a two 44 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: year scheme where you can get a trade as a 45 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: mechanic or an electrician or a chippy and do your 46 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: trade through there, or even lawyers and doctors and stuff. 47 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: They do you need degrees or if it's not for you. 48 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: I'll just do another year and then you're out and 49 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: free to go. But you've got all those life skills 50 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: that you've just weren't. It's true, it does pass the 51 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: POD test. 52 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 5: Oh look when I was leaving Stall in nineteen eighty five. 53 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: Yeah maybe, but these days I don't think so. 54 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 5: GI's are more diverse. But I just think prehistoric bony 55 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 5: needs to retire. 56 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 3: Gratefully mixed bag of calls. 57 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 4: There. 58 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 2: Unless you learn to change a tire, that it'd be. 59 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: Something well, and what a shame. There's a warring off 60 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 3: you go. That's it's only here to learn how to 61 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 3: change your time, how to change a tire. 62 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: It's handy.