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Speaker 2: Be careful.

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Speaker 3: Love those umboo.

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Speaker 1: Let We'll use your head. They will tear you lack

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no no, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, oh no

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Speaker 2: no no. Hi, I'm Amanda and I'm Rumby.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to its lay it.

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Speaker 2: We're in a long distance friendship that started over twenty

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Speaker 2: years ago when we were in high school.

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Speaker 4: We'll be talking about all things life, love, family, anything

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Speaker 4: and everything else under the sun.

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Speaker 2: Delve deeper with us because in life, you know.

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Speaker 1: My layers. Oh no, no, no, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, welcome everybody. Welcome to season what Amanda?

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Speaker 1: Or season start? Oh my lord, I know, Like where

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Speaker 1: have the seasons come and gone?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're halfway to ten. Yeah that's crazy. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if we'll make it to ten guys, But to

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Speaker 2: be fair, like this is insane that we're in.

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Speaker 1: Five of as a milestone. Five is a milestone?

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Speaker 2: Did you did you think we would get to like

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Speaker 2: season five?

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Speaker 4: Like when we start a girl, I was still surprised

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Speaker 4: in season one, so I'm still stuck there, like where

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Speaker 1: Like it's just insane.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah. So I mean, we've been gone

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Speaker 2: a while. It's not like it's been a minute. What's

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Speaker 2: I've just been life taking a day at a time.

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Speaker 2: They say a day at a time positivity.

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously I'm back at work now I'm trying

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how was that adjustment? Right?

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Speaker 4: Like, can we take a moment of silence for all

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Speaker 4: our queens out there who are balancing this thing? Like

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Speaker 4: someone asked me the other day, they were like, you

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Speaker 4: love Jerome, He's amazing, But do you regret, like I said,

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Speaker 4: you know, like yeah, I think and yeah, in some

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Speaker 4: of those moments, I'm like, you really should think this trip.

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Speaker 2: Before you before. And that's why I think our parents

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Speaker 2: get pissed when we piss them off, because they're like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: this child all the second time, I don't sacrifice everything

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Speaker 4: So now I can imagine if you're thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,

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Speaker 4: giving me.

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Speaker 2: Attitude, giving me attitude, being like I don't want to.

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Speaker 4: I absolutely love being a mom, but there's sometimes when

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Speaker 4: I'm like, this is truly the ghetto.

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Speaker 2: The ghetto, which reminds me. You were actually on Pumi's podcast,

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Speaker 2: My Love Good podcast, So if you haven't checked that out,

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Speaker 2: I love check out Amanda chatting to Money about motherhood

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Speaker 2: and everything that happens, and also check out Boomy's podcast.

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Speaker 2: If your mom having a mom going through motherhood. You

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Speaker 2: are not alone, so not alone.

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Speaker 1: Note what have you been up to?

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Speaker 2: Oh girl, I've been lifing like life has been living.

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Speaker 2: that was proposed to us by a listener, And what's

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Speaker 4: Little more platonic friendships.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And what's the diffinition of platonic because it sounds

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Speaker 4: that's got nothing to do with any flirty business, any

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Speaker 1: Why do they have to Yeah, that does he have

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Speaker 4: Because that's the whole thing with a gay best friend

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it's really having a mutual respect

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Speaker 1: So for me, it so happened. It feels like it

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Speaker 2: The influence I was just thinking about it, like how

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was saying, like going through a stage

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Speaker 1: It was just like oh yeah, we're just homies.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And the thing is with them barbweans especially naturally

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Speaker 1: So I never really and I think I'm one of

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Speaker 4: So then it's like, even if you found them attractive,

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Speaker 2: It's easy. It's like so easy, no hard feelings. You

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Speaker 1: Yeah I'm also competing with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, none of that. It's just like simple I don't know.

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Speaker 4: And I like in my friendships, especially the closer ones

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Speaker 4: This is a I'm protected like a sibling. I'm just

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Speaker 4: Last week and there it's just like simple and easy

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Speaker 4: do you want to watch the so car? Do you

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Speaker 4: want to watch the It's not like it's doesn't come

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Speaker 4: with the heaviness. I think that women we put upon

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think too it balances you know, even

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and what it does give perspective when you're

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Speaker 4: feminine masculine energy, we think the same.

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00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 1: Then you're not going to find many.

438
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 4: Girls who are going to give you a different perspective

439
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 4: because they would act the same as you are.

440
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 1: It's nice to have that person to be like, what

441
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: do you think and see it in a different way?

442
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 2: What do you appreciate least about male friendships?

443
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 4: I think I think like you brought up partners. I

444
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 4: think that's what I probably, which sounds like I'm women bashing,

445
00:22:54,560 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 4: but like it's it's just me that delicate balance of

446
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 4: I think, out of all the types of friendships, platonic

447
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 4: friendships are misunderstood by those who don't have them.

448
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

449
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 4: So if they don't have a real dog who's a

450
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 4: male that they didn't meet sexually and want to be

451
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,959
Speaker 4: in their parts blah blah, then it's hard for them

452
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 4: to appreciate that when they see that in their partner

453
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 4: with another girl. Yes, yeah, for sure, you know, I

454
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 4: find the the Then that becomes delicate because then it's

455
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 4: like you have to first explain the whole philosophy behind

456
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 4: platonic friendships.

457
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: There's nothing here. I don't want your man. He doesn't

458
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 1: want me think of me as a man as well.

459
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 4: Pretty much i'm his boy, like you know, is that bad?

460
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 4: Like he does not look at me he's sexually and

461
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 4: not look at him, you know, And I don't look

462
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 4: at him that way too. But because so it comes

463
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,199
Speaker 4: with a lot of like if I want to hang

464
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 4: out with you room to check, I don't have to

465
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 4: check in with Tom as much, you know what I mean.

466
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 4: But if I want to hang out with a male friend,

467
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 4: I can't. As you said yourself, when you're like messaging

468
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 4: your male friends you always say greetings to, but you

469
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 4: wouldn't do that to me, essentially like a chat and

470
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 4: you cannot say say hi to myself and that's fine,

471
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 4: but with you, you're.

472
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: Saying you consciously do it for lunch.

473
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 4: So it's like, I think it's that because people don't

474
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 4: understand it. So when you find true platonic friendships, you

475
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 4: almost have to have people who also understand platonic friendship.

476
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 2: But don't you think it's also media, right, because we

477
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 2: watch all these promcorms where it's like, oh, we're just

478
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 2: for it. I think there was recently I watched the

479
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 2: one with Reese with a Spoon and Ashs on Netflix.

480
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 2: It's not a great watch, but I mean, okay, but

481
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 2: like literally that storyline of like they've been friends for

482
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 2: like ages and if you think of movies like Love

483
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 2: and Basketball, you know what I mean?

484
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 4: And yeah, yeah, but do you say how in those,

485
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 4: even Love and Basketball or the those, the root of

486
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 4: how they met usually had some sort of sexual encounter

487
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 4: and then it grew and then it's like, oh, yeah,

488
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 4: let's circle back. But like true platonic you'll be like brah,

489
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 4: I literally yeah want you.

490
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: But by the way, we don't differentiate people just know

491
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 2: as like it's the only way to go. It's true.

492
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's like the language around it, the support

493
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 4: system around them, because then a lot of times people

494
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 4: will be like, by my wife is not comfortable. So

495
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 4: that's that the friendship just and also men, as you said,

496
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 4: they're very directing their communication so that when they say that,

497
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 4: then what do you You can't be like fight for me,

498
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 4: I'm your friend, like it's just like okay, And then

499
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 4: the friendship the syntig you know what I mean?

500
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 2: And like, so how would those how would you in

501
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 2: that sense navigate a situation where you understand you and

502
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: your friend, your male friend understand that it's plutonic maybe

503
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 2: a partner partner doesn't necessary how to navigate that?

504
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, well give us.

505
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 4: I think for me what's helped is also trying to

506
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 4: befriend the partner, right, so I then not don't become

507
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 4: just your friend, that become you know, both of your friends,

508
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 4: you know, but then that you also have to have

509
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 4: your allegiance because but when they argue, you have to

510
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 4: know Markey, what has Basically I fox with you but

511
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 4: not that much. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, just like I

512
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 4: hang with you but all right or that, yeah, I

513
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 4: do for your husband. So it's like I think they

514
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 4: have to get to know you.

515
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 1: It does help that I'm in a relationship. Obviously. When

516
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: I was a single woman, it was a whole.

517
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 4: Thing because it was like especially single woman and going

518
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 4: out because then if the boys are going out, like oh, come, let's.

519
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: Go out, and then you're there the only girl there.

520
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: It's just the optics with your bad.

521
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. I've actually been in situations where they were girlfriends.

522
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 2: I was single at the time. Then the little boyfriends.

523
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 2: I tried hanging with the girls.

524
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: It was so hard for me.

525
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: Like also, women were not very inclusive. Let's be honest.

526
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's very much like you you can't click energy me.

527
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, I'm actually more homies with

528
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 2: the dudes, like where you hang with you like, let

529
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 2: me go hang with the dudes by the sand, you know. Yeah,

530
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 2: then the girls get touched now and then now they

531
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 2: so I'm like, if you're not welcoming, I don't know

532
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 2: what you want me to do to just say, look

533
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 2: like boo boo the fool when I.

534
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: Have right and listen to your stories.

535
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, very tough, like when you when you have to

536
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 2: kind of and be like, no, I'm not checking for them,

537
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 2: but like also I prefer this conversation, but like calm down,

538
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 2: but like you know.

539
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: It's so sunny.

540
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 4: You bring that up because that's such a typical Zimbabewe

541
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 4: and set up like you go for a bride or

542
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 4: you go for for.

543
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: Those who don't know what a bride is, by season five,

544
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,239
Speaker 1: a barbecue.

545
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 4: And then like you know, the men would be outside

546
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 4: with the typically with the beers and with the with

547
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 4: the meat, and the ladies are doing the sides in

548
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 4: the kitchen and then you all congregate when the.

549
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: Food is ready to eat. But it's like you're you

550
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: walk in and you go to your separate way.

551
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 4: So when you're not homies with the girls, it's like

552
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 4: oh hiy, the never look at you up and down.

553
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 4: Yeah that girl who's friends with money.

554
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 2: Yeah absolutely, or like checking out what you're wearing. But

555
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 2: even if you think about it from a family, because

556
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 2: we likened friendship to like a brother, a cousin or ever,

557
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 2: if I think of family events, sometimes I just want

558
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 2: to hang out with my god cousins, Like it's right,

559
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: do you understand?

560
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: Like so if you think of it.

561
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 2: In that context, it makes sense, but people don't always

562
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: read it in the same language. I don't know.

563
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean to be fair.

564
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 4: Also, when you go out with guys who are your friends,

565
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 4: they can block you as well. It ain't gonna always

566
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 4: be rosy because it looks like you must you're you're

567
00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 4: rolling five deep.

568
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:04,479
Speaker 3: You must have one of them. I don't know them,

569
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 3: must be your man, you know so. But our guys

570
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 3: good are they good guys?

571
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: Good wingmen?

572
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 3: No?

573
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: No, are terrible. I tell you, came with the guy

574
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: was the happliest guy in the club.

575
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 4: We're good, we're good wing women for them, and they're

576
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 4: horrible wingmen for.

577
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: And then they get this protected big brother and relax.

578
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 4: I want to want you help me enter and they're like,

579
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 4: don't come and now give your don't wait, I must say.

580
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 2: They get protected like that big brother energy, and you're like,

581
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 2: what I signed up for?

582
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 4: Like, actually, yeah, I found that the relationships with my

583
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 4: friends male friends that have gone well with people I

584
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 4: was dating, and people I dated were guys I met separately.

585
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: Then I bought them into the fold meeting at the

586
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: same time. And the guy and then my friends.

587
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, like literally blocked one of us.

588
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 2: Let's go, and you're like, yeah, yeah.

589
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: That dude you never put his arm around you, like,

590
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: you know, my guy's opting.

591
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: So that's just warnering if you want paternally friendships and

592
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 2: you single trying to you know, sometimes coup blocks like

593
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 2: the interfere.

594
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: With the plan.

595
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 4: Meanwhile, we'd be working hard to waming for them, yes

596
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 4: and being nice.

597
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: And like, oh you look so pretty, Oh you look

598
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: so pretty, Like yeah, have you met my hommie?

599
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: Like, you know, my friend putting in a good word,

600
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: and guys love, they love to be like he's putting

601
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: a good word. Who's your homie? Can you er for me?

602
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: Meanwhile?

603
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 4: Mean block talking about that, Do you think it's okay

604
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 4: for your partner to have lots of friends of the

605
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 4: opposite sex?

606
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 2: What lots of friends? It's all like subjective, right.

607
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 4: Like yeah, I guess, I guess an amount that maybe

608
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 4: you have, like more than when you would have whatever

609
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 4: that whatever that would be, or like you know, you

610
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 4: brought up may this spile of the thickest she obviously,

611
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 4: but they were besties and then he then got into

612
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 4: a relationship. Yeah, and she we didn't see her life

613
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 4: but let's just say she didn't have any male nor friends. Yeah,

614
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 4: and then she sees but my man and my new

615
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 4: man has a bestie who's a female.

616
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: Like that energy? What are you saying?

617
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: I just it depends on what energy you're getting from

618
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,479
Speaker 2: that person, because sometimes people become protective of their friend, right,

619
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: and it's kind of like who's in the relationship here

620
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 2: like me, and then more like it gets tricky. I

621
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: think I would like to say, if he did have

622
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: a lot of more female friends, I would like to

623
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: think that he still confides in me too. Like I

624
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: think what hurts a lot of people is where it's

625
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 2: like you go tell them everything and I'm just like

626
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 2: on the I'm just your.

627
00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: Outskirts on the out periphery. But that happens with female

628
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: female that's friendships.

629
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: That's true.

630
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: So we like doing a double standard.

631
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 2: But it's a double standard because like men don't get

632
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 2: certain things about a female friend. Like we laugh and

633
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: joke about this, Like me, I'm always if anything happens

634
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 2: black golden girls we live together, don't we'll find the house.

635
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: I buy a house with you, Yeah.

636
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 2: Exactly, Like because it's just like you understand the world

637
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: differently and the things I share with you, most of

638
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: the I share with my husband, you know, but his

639
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: perspective sometimes just like I was looking for a bit

640
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: more energy on this topic.

641
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I can me dialve into Yeah, when they're.

642
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 2: Not very practical, they just like, I mean, just don't

643
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: talk to her, and you're like, yeah, but like it

644
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 2: hurt me, you know what type of thing. Yeah, yeah,

645
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 2: So the space is different when it's a male friendship

646
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: than a female one. So there's kind of that. And

647
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: also like you know, if he makes your priority, that's dope,

648
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: but when they're now don't make you a priority, then

649
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 2: I don't know that that's yeah, I don't know how

650
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 2: you see it.

651
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: I think it's so.

652
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 4: It depends its case by case for me, because it

653
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 4: also depends if your man is up in the streets

654
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 4: and you want to be chilling at home and then

655
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 4: he goes out and he so happens to have a

656
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 4: lot of female friends and they're getting drunk together and

657
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 4: they're getting and we all know you do silly things

658
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 4: when alcohol is involved.

659
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: And if it's repeatedly, like every Friday.

660
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 4: So it's like it just depends on the energy on

661
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 4: the situations I tend luckily obviously with my husband attract

662
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 4: men who don't have lots of girlfriends. I've never really

663
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 4: had that one on one experience of it. But I

664
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 4: also it also depends for me on the friends the

665
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 4: girlfriend's intentions, you know, like if they think they're waiting

666
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 4: in line, thinking I wait by the sidelines one day

667
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 4: it'll be over with this chick, and you get that energy,

668
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 4: then it be hard.

669
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: But if they have pure.

670
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 4: Stands for our friendship for love, then okay, then I

671
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 4: actually feel like, okay, I got an inside man in

672
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 4: a way, you know. So it really depends and and

673
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 4: people think they're good at hiding these kinds of things,

674
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 4: but we know, yeah, no, we know a girl who's

675
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 4: after your man very and we not a girl who's just.

676
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: There to be a friend. We know the difference.

677
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, so when you get the vibes, that's when the

678
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 4: reactions they are differently For me for sure, Yeah.

679
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 2: I have three one thousand percent like it. It's really

680
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 2: so I think that's the thing. It's like, what does

681
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 2: it mean? And and similar to you, you know, my

682
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 2: husband doesn't have a lot of like female friends, like

683
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: so I can't really say like, but I was just

684
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: like befriend them, like you said, like hopefully they can

685
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 2: hold enough space for us to be friends too, like

686
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: to be in it. And so I'm so it's.

687
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: Layered, young, it's a layered one.

688
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's totally lay Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I think, yeah,

689
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 2: I think we touched on some of the benefit. What

690
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: are the benefits of your partner having more girlfriends than.

691
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,439
Speaker 1: I guess you know what to give you child?

692
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 2: That's true sometimes.

693
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 4: Sure, if she's not a okay, we're assuming the friend

694
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 4: is of sound mind, sound mine, and there's a stand

695
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 4: of your laf Obviously she's like having, as I said,

696
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 4: an inside man. So that would be good, even inside

697
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 4: man to his thoughts because maybe coming from a fellow

698
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 4: depends on how you say it. Obviously it might be

699
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 4: nice to get out. Maybe he's thinking this in a

700
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 4: gentle way, not not enough. He told me this, and

701
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 4: he told me that, And that also then creates a

702
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,479
Speaker 4: divide because it's like, oh, he tells you all these things.

703
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

704
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 4: For me, the drawbacks are what you said, like not

705
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 4: having a community, sense of community, because boys don't really

706
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 4: roll like that. They're more I mean, you have your

707
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 4: group of friends, but it's not like the way it

708
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 4: feels like ladies with branch or going to the spa,

709
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 4: or we're very communal women and men are more like

710
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 4: lone wolfish, you know. So I think for me, obviously,

711
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 4: being a female, I do appreciate I also like having

712
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 4: my girls around me and that support. Like things like

713
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 4: planning a wedding or planning a baby with a male friend.

714
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 2: They'll be like, you want me to go?

715
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 4: What they'll be like and even just a mental load

716
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 4: before the event, talking about a color scheme. They'll be

717
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 4: like my guy Canada. This is obviously mainly a generalization

718
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 4: on sexual men. They will be like, just choose. You know,

719
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 4: you want to delve into.

720
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: Salmon things, can equity, you know you want to go

721
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: into all the things I think happen.

722
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 2: When when the groom himself is just like you choose,

723
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, like b it's not yeah, it's not even.

724
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I feel like you need a balance.

725
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 2: Yeah I can't imagine being colourways like I mean, okay, totally.

726
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: Well, they'll be like what you got to be explaining everything.

727
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: Unless they're into that, like unless they have that Yeah, yeah,

728
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: we're generalizing you. Sorry, you don't get offended.

729
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 4: But we're just saying, yeah, please don't get offended if

730
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 4: you think you don't know what colourways? Do you think though,

731
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 4: that platonic friendships also depend on personality type or your

732
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 4: own experiences and therefore, like if you've had a friend

733
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 4: that crossed the line with you, then that's why you're

734
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 4: a bit suspicious of them, Like you know, do you

735
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 4: think it's as a result of that how your platonic

736
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 4: friendships go.

737
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I think everything we do is from experience and

738
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 2: from how we've seen things happen in our lives. How

739
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 2: we feel, do we feel safe, do we feel we

740
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 2: can trust? Do we feel And I think I will

741
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: say this, I think it's okay for people to realize

742
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 2: it's okay if platonic friendships are not for you. Just

743
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: like I don't know how to explain it, like it's

744
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: it's it doesn't mean you're less of a woman. Yeah,

745
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 2: but I think people feel like, oh, if I'm a

746
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 2: balanced person, I need to have X Y. But I

747
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 2: think everything is influenced from your upbringing. So if you

748
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 2: feel safe, like I was saying, like, I just have

749
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 2: always felt safer with women in terms of my inner

750
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 2: intimate circle. But that's by virtue of my own personal experiences.

751
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: I do think it definitely depends if you feel like

752
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 2: you are able to engage just purely on the basis

753
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 2: of like there's the homie and there's nothing there. I think,

754
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 2: as Amanda already said, how you met, how you came

755
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 2: to be friends and their levels to friendship. Hey, there's friendship.

756
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: Like you know, we talk often and we unpack like

757
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 2: life's meaning in this friendships of life, Brah, let's go,

758
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 2: let's go, hang, let's go, you know, the common interest

759
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: common So they're definitely different layers. What I will say though,

760
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: where I kind of say it's questionable if you, as

761
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: a female are not able to have female friends. That's

762
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 2: how I feel.

763
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 4: But like versa, if I met do you didn't have

764
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 4: any male friends and all of them girls, I would also.

765
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: Be That's why I think it's because it's it's it's

766
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 2: it's it's kind of saying, how do you perceive even

767
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 2: yourself in a way, And there's a whole we could

768
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 2: go on a whole tangent of that, but in terms

769
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 2: of platonic friendship, definitely personality type and what you want

770
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: and what you need and sometimes you don't need that

771
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 2: male perspective or maybe.

772
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 4: And what's available to you, you know, like if you're

773
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 4: not around a lot of people love a certain gender,

774
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 4: male or female, then maybe that it's going to be

775
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 4: as a product of you know.

776
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: So it also defends the spaces you're occupying.

777
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 2: For sure.

778
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's such a I mean, friendships.

779
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 4: Is always a late thing, and I think people always

780
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 4: concentrate on romance so much, like even you know, you

781
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 4: were talking about all these movies that I've come up

782
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 4: rom coms, and but I feel like friendships are the

783
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 4: things that sustain us from like when we were so young,

784
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 4: when we're so old, and the journey of friendships, you know.

785
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: So it's so funny, Like it's just.

786
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 4: I guess we just want to do one for the

787
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 4: Fellers to be like, Yeah, obviously we've talked about sisterhood

788
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 4: a lot, and we're keen on this season to talk

789
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 4: about sisterhood, but we're also like we do recognize there

790
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 4: are some.

791
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: Good men out there.

792
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 4: We're also holding their sisters up, you know, and giving

793
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 4: them support and giving them perspective and hopefully gaining the

794
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 4: same back.

795
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and I think that that's what makes good platonic friendships?

796
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 2: Are you an ally? Are you supporting? Are you willing

797
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 2: to learn? Are you you know? Those things? And we

798
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 2: need it because sometimes when you say a woman to

799
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 2: a man, like don't do that because it's disrespect me

800
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: as a woman, or ever, they don't hear it, but

801
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 2: hearing it from another day, like, oh, you shouldn't do

802
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 2: that because like women, you know, do you understand what

803
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: I'm saying? Like, yeah, definitely beneficial for standing in the gap,

804
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: but yeah, I haven't you guys like enjoyed us kind

805
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: of trying to break it down and you know, coming

806
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: back to this podcast life, Yes, exactly. So what can

807
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: we expect for season? I wan's say season two season.

808
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: Girl, We're done done? Season two.

809
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 4: Type of five I'm losing track can explain. We can

810
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 4: expect a lot of celebration of black women, specifically black

811
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 4: Zimbabwean women. Brimby and I both watch the Bobby movie

812
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 4: and say what you want to say, but we were

813
00:41:55,680 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 4: in our fields about you know, about sisterhood, fellow our

814
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 4: fellow Bobby's out.

815
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know there was President Bobby, like.

816
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 4: You know, so like it's just I love that it

817
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 4: celebrates us, all those individuals and all our different ways,

818
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 4: and this season we're really taking a moment. You know,

819
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 4: even if you see our logos pink pink, Bobby Future pink,

820
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 4: and it's like.

821
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: Yays Era, just we don't get.

822
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 4: It's such a layered gender and it's be beautiful that

823
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 4: this season will get to spotlight our own thoughts on

824
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 4: things as black women, but also spotlight some very exciting

825
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 4: guests for our beautiful season.

826
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Yeah. Every time I hear buy, I want to

827
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 2: say Bartie, but that's yeah, that's what's her name, Cardi.

828
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: B Right's Cardi B I think Bobby.

829
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 3: Ni.

830
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, that's true. I do like the remix

831
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 2: to Bobby Girl.

832
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, yeah I do. I do like

833
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: it too.

834
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 4: And even there's even that sad song with Billie Eilish like,

835
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 4: yeah I heard it.

836
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: What have I made for or something?

837
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 2: Yeah?

838
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: Anyway, what's that zim shower room bee for today?

839
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: Well, actually thinking about women, but it's in your hood,

840
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 2: somebody in your hood, your territory. Our shout out is

841
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 2: routend or M. I actually don't know what the M

842
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 2: stands for. She was on Master Chef of Australia and

843
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: she won the Source Challenge. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

844
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: She had to have a source in like a in

845
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: a grocery, a major grocery called Calls.

846
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, nationwide Barbarus sauce. It was really cool that. Yeah,

847
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 2: you know what, you know, as black people, we like flavor.

848
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 2: So she's just like.

849
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: She was like the name because like, I've been doing

850
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: this since I started cooking, what do you mean?

851
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's nice to see a fellow and you know,

852
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 4: just her journey obviously becoming and I think she was

853
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 4: like if she was not in, she was in the

854
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 4: top ten for sure.

855
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: I remember at which point she got eliminated.

856
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 4: But her, I mean, such a big consolation prize, right

857
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,919
Speaker 4: to have your source sold nationwide people.

858
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: I bought like six bottles. I started gifting the people

859
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: at work.

860
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 2: Because I was like, yes, let them know. Let them know.

861
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 4: So shout out to Route. Her instagram is at routendome

862
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 4: no M.

863
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 2: Yeah are you you e t N d O M.

864
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think she calls us half rue like the kangaroo, yes.

865
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 2: Because Australian people don't know how to ruh or you know,

866
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 2: I get that.

867
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, So shout out to her. Yeah, well then, and.

868
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 2: Thank you guys for joining us season five. I know

869
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: some people are like when you're coming back back back

870
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,919
Speaker 2: as always, as I say it, like a bad rush.

871
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 1: We don't like it, but we accept.

872
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Speaker 2: Who don't stop me now? You can't help me now,

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Speaker 2: but I won't start now sometimes Season five, y'all now,

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Speaker 2: just yeah exactly. I just want my diddy energy.

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Speaker 4: I wish I had that man, no question dances that

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Speaker 4: didn't shake. You can hate me, but I won't stand

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Speaker 4: up time.

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Speaker 2: But like, but who're gonna tell him to stop?

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Speaker 1: Gonna tell the We're gonna tell nobody exactly.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. As always, you can hit us up.

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Speaker 2: We are on Instagram, it's layered on x It's layered

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Speaker 2: pod on TikTok, It's laid pod. Email us, it's lead

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Speaker 2: pod at gmail dot com. We love you guys. Thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for always writing with us. They do

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Speaker 2: need to die, but we keep writing. I'll see you

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Speaker 2: guys on the next.

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Speaker 1: Hope you enjoyed this season.

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Speaker 2: Bye, yes bye no no no, yeah yeah yeah yeah