1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: It's a special Will and Woody podcast mini. 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 2: The Olympics are on in two days and to talk 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 2: all about it. We are one of our greatest ever Olympians. 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Our next case is no stranger to the Olympic Games. 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 3: He won a total of sixteen medals. 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: During his career as a swimmer before he homebook. 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: The Budgie Small Glazz in twenty nineteen, which wakes him 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: the perfect person to chat about choosing great active. 9 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: Way, what the heck is going on in Tokyo at 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: the moment, and what a cardboard bed prevent. 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 3: The fleas from hooking up from the village. Welcome to 12 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 3: the show. The Magnet, the Missile. It's James Magison. 13 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: Yes, the missile himself looking home right now, Jimmy boy 14 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: looking so hot right now. 15 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 3: I mean we lean into that straightaway, Missile. 16 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: There's a lot of talk about the well, the intimate 17 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: activity that goes on at these Olympic villagers, so much 18 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: so that the Tokyo or the Japanese have been stilled 19 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: some cardboard beds to stop that intimacy. 20 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: Just how wild is it in that Olympic village? 21 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 4: Look, I think it's definitely more wild after your events 22 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 4: are over. Most of the athletes there have got a purpose. 23 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 4: But as far as the cardboard beds, I feel like 24 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 4: where there's a will, there's a way. Like we're talking 25 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 4: about world class athletes here, they can play on more 26 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 4: than one field. 27 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: I believe that is true. 28 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: Hey, with COVID though, miss ile, I'm interested by this. 29 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: If you were in the Games this year, and I 30 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: think today there were sixty seven possible cases that have 31 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: come out of the Olympic village, how would you be 32 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: feeling about it, Like, would you be still on board 33 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: or would you be thinking it should be off? 34 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, I think it's an athlete, you'd still be 35 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 4: on board. Particularly for Olympic sports, you only get a 36 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 4: shot every four years at this kind of event. I 37 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 4: think it'd be really disappointing for the athletes that a 38 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 4: lot of this COVID stuff has taken the shine away 39 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 4: from the Games a little. I mean, we haven't been 40 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 4: speaking much about the Olympics and we're only two days 41 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 4: away from the opening ceremony, which I think is a 42 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 4: little disappointing for the athletes. But I just hope by 43 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 4: the time, you know, the swimmers get on the blocks 44 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 4: on that first day it's it's front center of all 45 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 4: our minds. 46 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: I'm sure it will be. It tends to happen like 47 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: that a bit. I know you're saying, we haven't spoken 48 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: about the movies a lot. But for people that aren't 49 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 2: in the Olympic sphere you aren't and the you know, 50 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 2: the sporting spheres you it does tend to happen a 51 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: bit that way. Like you sit down on the couch 52 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 2: on a Friday night, you have half a bottle of wine, 53 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: You flick over to Channel seven, and then all of 54 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: a sudden, you're like, holy shit, I've got two of 55 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: the best badminton players in the world going at it. 56 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 3: I might stay up for another two or three hours. 57 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: What the body else going on here? But that's how 58 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: it works, right Like it does tend to come out 59 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 2: of nowhere. 60 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 3: It does. 61 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: It catches us by surprise all the time. I feel like, 62 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: once we're up and running, it will be something that 63 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: we all want to watch. I think they just kind 64 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: of have to stay the course in the face of 65 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: all this uncertainty. 66 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think I've spoken to a few of 67 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 4: the athletes and it's almost a little bit surreal for 68 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 4: them because it has been put off for that extra 69 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 4: twelve months. I see some of them right up until today. 70 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 4: They won't believe that the thing's going ahead until they're 71 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 4: up on those head of starting blocks, because it's still 72 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 4: like at any moment they could pull the pin. 73 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: Well, I thought I was saying that today. I thought 74 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: that the head of the Olympic Committee was saying, I'm 75 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,399 Speaker 2: still willing to pull the pin on this thing, which 76 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: is just I mean, what did that feel like? You know, 77 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: you're working four years to get there. Are you just 78 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: going to see, quite seriously, like just a swath of 79 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: mental breakdowns? What would that be like? Like if you could 80 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: put yourself in their issues. You've been working five years 81 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: to get to the Olympics, if the whole thing pulled 82 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: away from you for something which is out of your control. 83 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: Are you worried about some of your former colleagues. 84 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 4: There, Yeah, I am. I think if they pulled the 85 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 4: pin on it at the last minute, it would have 86 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 4: a pretty devastating effect. A number of my friends and 87 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 4: fellow swimmers pushed on just for that one more Olympic. Yeah, 88 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 4: and if they took this Olympics away from them, that 89 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 4: would be their last opportunity to represent Australia, so it'd 90 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 4: have huge repercussions on a lot of people. 91 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you would have to be devastating for them. 92 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 3: Really, hope it stays. 93 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: I've never worked for anything for five years, no, apart 94 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: from finishing high school. 95 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: No, that's and I had to do that. Yeah, and that, 96 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 3: to be honest, doesn't really matter. 97 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: No. 98 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, I mean, miss 99 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: so you swim the one hundred and forty seven seconds, So really, 100 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: when you break it down, you've got four years of 101 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: training and then for forty seven seconds. 102 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's it. 103 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 4: That's pretty wild. I think that's probably why that eleven 104 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 4: days afterwards goes so high. 105 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: Seven seconds eleven. 106 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: Days after Olympics, only a couple of days away. And 107 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: we've got James Magnuson who joins us right now. 108 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 3: He's the end of. 109 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: News Corps Daily Olympics Newsletter, which I'm sure a lot 110 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 2: of you have been following along for Daily Olympic News 111 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 2: by Jimmy Magnuson, delivered straight jury box. Visit Tokyo News 112 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: dot com dot au. So, James, is you're covering the 113 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: Olympics in totality, not just the swimming side. Of things. 114 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: But what because what do you know, we're talking about 115 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: this the other day. What sport would you happily see go? 116 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 4: Happily see go? I think the ones where it's not 117 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 4: the pinnacle, like golf for the last one, felt pretty 118 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 4: empty for me. 119 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, because they've got other stuff stuff to do. 120 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 4: They've bought in a few you know, like x I'll 121 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 4: call them X game sports like surfing, dating and stuff 122 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 4: like that, where I think X games would be the pinnacle. 123 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: Okay, And what about the biggest surprise packets of the Olympics, 124 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 2: because you've obviously got a bit of behind the scenes 125 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 2: their stuff, like you know, the people doing ribbon stick 126 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 2: gymnastics just absolute firecrackers when it comes to the drinking 127 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 2: games in the village. 128 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,559 Speaker 4: But I think you know, one of the funny ones 129 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 4: at something like a Commonwealth Games, they have lawn bowls. 130 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 4: Yawn bowlers grow up around the RSL club, so pretty 131 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 4: season drinkers really. 132 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: And they're all like seventy five as well. 133 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 3: I miss, You're you're right, just go again. 134 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: Going back to your time at the Olympics, I remember 135 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: going into I forget we w games. 136 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 3: It was whether it was rio or it was London. 137 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: But you were going in as the hot favorite, which 138 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: you know, and coming in is the hot favorite, all 139 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: the pressure that comes with that. I'm really interested to 140 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: ask you, just from your perspective, given that you've lived it, 141 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: what was that like. 142 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty tough. It's like unlike anything else I 143 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 4: think you can really experience because you kind of shoulder 144 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 4: that responsibility on your own in swimming. It is a 145 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 4: very lonely spot sometimes to be And the thing that 146 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 4: I found hard for coming up through the age group 147 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 4: swimming and into the Australian team. I was a relative 148 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 4: unknown then going into an Olympic Games as a favorite. 149 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 4: Everybody was stopping me in the street. I was seeing 150 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 4: it on TV, I was hearing it on the radio, 151 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 4: I was reading it in the paper. I couldn't get 152 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 4: away from that kind of hysteria. I found that really 153 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 4: hard to deal with. Probably one of the things I 154 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 4: guess that's lucky for some of the swimmers on this 155 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 4: team this year is that because we haven't been glued 156 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 4: to this Olympic coverage thus far, some of them have 157 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 4: probably had a little bit of a chance to go 158 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 4: under the radar, when in other years that they may 159 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 4: not have had that opportunity. 160 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 2: Actually, I actually think that was right because I'm only 161 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: just realizing this now that obviously so with with your 162 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 2: other sports, you know, your AFLs or your crickets or 163 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: whatever it is, like generally speaking in the Australian vocabulary, 164 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: that they are at the front end of the sporting 165 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: jargon all the time. Like you know, there's a cricket 166 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: section as a footy section in the paper swimming every 167 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: four years. Yeah, you're right, like all of a sudden, 168 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: the pinup boy for Australian sport is just like all 169 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: the pinup woman for Australia sport. It's just like bang, 170 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: like this is who it is and I haven't heard her. 171 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: This person is before my life. And I remember with you. 172 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: It must have been in London. You came out of 173 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: nowhere and it was just like, this guy's the best 174 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 2: in the world. We've got the gold locked up. 175 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 3: I remember reading it, the hell is this guy the 176 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: bank ads as well? 177 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? 178 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then and then from there, then how did 179 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 2: you deal with the fact that that there wasn't in 180 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: a gold attached to one hundred meters there? 181 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, I think it was hard at first, and 182 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 4: I was really critical on myself. 183 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: I felt so for you mate, Like Jena, I remember 184 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: looking at you and being like, oh my God, like 185 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: talking fingernails. 186 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And I think because I 187 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 4: didn't win the gold, a lot of people assume that 188 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 4: I had a really bad race, so I stuffed up. 189 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 4: I actually had a pretty good race that night, sens 190 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 4: the best of my ability for where I was at, 191 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 4: and someone else was just a little better on the day. 192 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 4: So at the time I was super hard on myself 193 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 4: and took it really hard. But then I guess with 194 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 4: a little bit of age and maturity, I was able 195 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 4: to look back and go, well, if I was a 196 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 4: kid at school in primary school and you told me 197 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 4: one day that I'd go to the Olympic Games, I'd 198 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 4: be over the moon, you know. Career highlight, life highlight. 199 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 4: Then to not only go to an Olympic Games, we 200 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 4: win multiple medals at Olympic Games is something else again, 201 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 4: So he kind of have to put things in perspective 202 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 4: a little bit, because it's really hard to do at 203 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 4: the time when you're kind of getting pumped by the 204 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 4: media back here in Australia as well. 205 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, mate, well well done on the maturity that you 206 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: managed to muster. 207 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 3: At the end of the day. They couldn't take away 208 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 3: the eleven days of partying. 209 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: Absolutely not, they were going to stop. 210 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 4: They handed out medals for that. 211 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: James, it's been a pleasure to talk to you mate, honestly, 212 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: thanks so much for coming on the show and for 213 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: all your insights about the Olympics and for everything you've done. 214 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: You're a champion of the sport, champion of Australia as 215 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: an Olympian really, like truly, you've been amazing, amazing mate, 216 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: So thank you so much for joining us and hopefully 217 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 2: have you work on the show soon. 218 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for having legends. 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