1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Hello, Katie Wolf and three point sixty online at Mix 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: one O four nine dot com. 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 2: You well, as I've been saying, it is going to 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: be an interesting day for the first day of parliament 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: for twenty twenty one. And the Chief Minister and his 6 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: Labor team obviously still in denial over this alleged cocaine 7 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 2: sex scandal in broiling their party, as you've just heard 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 2: from the Health Minister Natasha Files. Unless there is evidence presented, 9 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: then she says, as the Chief Minister said earlier this 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: morning on the ABC that really it's just. 11 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 3: Internet rumor and innuendo. 12 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: Now joining me on the line is the Opposition leader Leafanocchiaro. 13 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 3: Good morning Leah, Good. 14 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: Morning Katie, and good morning Chield listeness Lea. 15 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 2: Is that all that this is rumor and innuendo from 16 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: the internet. 17 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: Well, I think it's a convenient line for the Gunna 18 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 1: Labor government to run when they're ducking and hiding from 19 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: a very serious issue. As Territorians are aware, a major 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: new outlet published allegations, serious criminal allegations. I have responded 21 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: and called on the Chief Minister and the interest of 22 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: integrity of our parliament and of our government to address 23 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: the allegations about territory labor, and I'm really not sure 24 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: why the Chief Minister is having such a difficult time 25 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: addressing these allegations. He has not come out and denied 26 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 1: that members of his team were involved. 27 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: He has said that if you've got evidence of any 28 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 2: criminal activity, don't call a press conference, call the police. 29 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: Have you called the police? 30 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: No, I have not reported this to the police. But 31 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: the question is a perfect one for the Chief Minister. 32 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: Has he conducted any investigation, has he made any inquiries? 33 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: This is about territory labor. This clearly sits at the 34 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: feet of the Chief Minister. This is about integrity. We've 35 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: had the Labor President herself come out and say the 36 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: Chief Minister needs to address this issue, and you know 37 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: it's it's not good enough for him to bury his 38 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: head in the sand on this issue like he does 39 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: with crime in our community, like he does with our economy. 40 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 2: Leah, have you got evidence that you're able to show 41 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: in Parliament today? 42 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: We will be asking the tough questions of the government 43 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: in Parliament as we do every sittings. Clearly, issues around crime, 44 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: around our economy are all going to feature this week 45 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: in Parliament. It's just astonishing that on this issue the 46 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: government continues to bury its head in the sand. It 47 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: doesn't pass the pub test. You know, I made it 48 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: crystal clear that this does not relate to my team. 49 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: Now the balls and the Chief Minister's caught. 50 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 2: Look, I think this, I mean it is a really 51 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 2: difficult one. Like I know that everybody in town's talking 52 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: about it. I know that a lot of us have 53 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: certainly heard these allegations that have been made. But I 54 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: can see the path that the government's taking now, and 55 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: it seems as though they're saying, well, if there's not evidence, 56 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: then they're not going to do anything about it, and 57 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: they're not going to actually answer the questions that you've got. 58 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 3: I mean, how are you going to respond to that? 59 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: Well, it's really about how the chief Minister responds. He 60 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: is the leader of a party, he is the chief 61 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: minister of our great territory. These allegations are being published 62 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: in our newspaper, printed in news outlets, you know, the 63 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: Anti News published today that they have takes messages that 64 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: have verified allegations. The only person who seems to not 65 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: understand or have not been looking at this is a 66 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: chief Minister himself. So he needs to front up. He's 67 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: the person who came out on a platform of open 68 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: and transparent government. He's the one who held himself out 69 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: to a very high bar of standards in our community, 70 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: and he needs to come out and either deny or 71 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: explain what's going on. 72 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 2: I mean, the Labor Party came out very strongly towards 73 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: the Giles government when there was a scandal, you know, 74 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: many years ago or quite a few years ago, involving 75 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: a LUD video. I mean, realistically, here, if there isn't 76 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: evidence that something illegal has happened, is there's still a 77 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 2: moral question if there are lud text messages or lud photos, well. 78 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: There are a number of questions, and that's why the 79 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: Chief Minister has to conduct an investigation. I mean, he 80 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,239 Speaker 1: cannot just pretend like this is not happening. He needs 81 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: to clear the air one way or the other. If 82 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: it's if it's innuendo on the internet, as they like 83 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: to say, then come out and say that, you know, 84 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: prove that. But to just not make any inquiries, to 85 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: not investigate this matter at all, is arrogant. It holds 86 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: territories in contempt. It shows complete disregard for the fact 87 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: finding of the truth and that's not acceptable when you're 88 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: the Chief Minister. Lea. 89 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: I have got a text message from a listener. It says, Katie, 90 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: can you please ask Leah if the Chief Minister and 91 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 2: Minister Files should resign if evidence does surface. 92 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's an excellent question. What kind of 93 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: hope do we have if evidence you know, if this 94 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: all plays out and it's you know, allegations are proven 95 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: and the Chief Minister knew about it, you know, he's 96 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: got some serious questions to answer. It's outrageous to bury 97 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: your head in the sand, as I keep saying, and 98 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: not front up on this issue. He's got to clear 99 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: the air. It's put a huge cloud over the territory. 100 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: We're going into two weeks of parliamentary sittings during which 101 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: time there are critical issues to debate around crime, the 102 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: state of our economy, health system, all sorts of other matters, 103 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:46,239 Speaker 1: and instead he's playing politics with an issue that clearly 104 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: has questions to answer. 105 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: Lea, You're obviously going to be asking questions about this 106 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 2: today though in Parliament. 107 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, we will certainly be asking the Government a whole 108 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: range of questions. And again, the fact that the Chef 109 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: Minister has not come out and denied these criminal, serious 110 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: criminal allegations speaks volume. 111 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 2: And so you do think that a full investigation needs 112 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 2: to be conducted by the Chief Minister here to ensure 113 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: and you know, to really to show Territorians that there's 114 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: nothing untoward. 115 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: Gone on, without question, without question, Katie, how can he 116 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: continue on and have this hangover the government and their 117 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: party without dealing with it properly. You know, Territorians expect 118 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: there to be inquiries made, investigations undertaken, and the Chief 119 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: Minister to come forward with something other than hiding behind COVID, 120 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: which is his favorite go to strategy because he lacks 121 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: leadership and is too arrogant to deal properly with the 122 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: concerns of our community. 123 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 3: All right, Lee, let's move along. 124 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 2: You did say that there's certainly going to be a 125 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: focused from the opposition on crime. How do you plan 126 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: on really trying to ensure that the territory and well 127 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: Territorians who have been really plagued by crime that their 128 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: voice is this are going to be heard in Parliament 129 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: over the next two weeks. 130 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: Well, we're certainly going to be asking a lot of 131 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: questioning questions in question time over the next couple of 132 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: weeks and you know, ensuring that they understand just how 133 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: catastrophic their bow reform legislation has been. Of course, we've 134 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: had the Police Association come out and say it's weak. 135 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: We know now through our opposition questioning that fifty percent 136 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: of people who were of youth who were arrested last 137 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: financial year were on bail at the time they were arrested. 138 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: We heard from the Police Commissioner last week that seventy 139 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: five percent of use offenders dealt with by Strikeforce Viper 140 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: in Alice Springs were repeat offenders. The government is just 141 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: just not in touch with the sentiment in the community, 142 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: is not in touch with the reality of the statistics. 143 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: They continue to just bullishly push through and not look 144 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: at what their policies are doing, which are creating victims 145 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: right across the territory. It's completely unacceptable. There's clear things 146 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: that need to be done. We have been calling for 147 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: breach of vowel condition to be brought back as an offense. 148 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: We are saying that repeat offenders should not have a 149 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: presumption in favor of VOO. If you are a repeat offender, 150 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: there should be an escalating scale of consequences territory families 151 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: should not be responsible for youth justice. That must go 152 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: back to corrections and the list of things we believe 153 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: need to happen go on and on and on. But 154 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: the only people not coming to the table on this 155 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: issue around crime is the Gunna Labor government. 156 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 2: Well, Lefanochiaro, we are going to have to leave it there. 157 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: I think we'll be speaking to you again tomorrow anyway, 158 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 2: and your usual Wednesday spots, so we'll. 159 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 3: See how we go. Thank you, thanks for your time. 160 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: Day. It is just twenty minutes away from ten o'clock 161 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: and that number if you'd like to call through today 162 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: eight nine four one one oh four nine. 163 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 3: You can also send us a text message if. 164 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: You'd like zero four one eight nine five seven three 165 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: six nine And I'm interested to hear from you. What 166 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: do you think about this tact that the government's obviously 167 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: going down there now calling on the opposition later Leofanocchiario 168 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 2: to provide evidence of allegations that are Territory Labor members 169 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 2: are implicated in the cocaine sex scandal, as claims obviously 170 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: continue to dog the party. We do know that yesterday 171 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: the President of the Labor Party eron early spoke with 172 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 2: me and said that anything that could impact the integrity 173 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 2: of the party should indeed be looked at and needed 174 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: to be addressed. 175 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 3: But as you've heard. 176 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: Now this morning, not only from the Chief Minister but 177 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: also from the Minister for Health Natasha Files, they are 178 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: really saying unless there's evidence, then there's nothing to see here. 179 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 3: It's certainly a very different 180 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: Tact, I think, than that that they took when they 181 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 2: are in opposition several years ago when there was a 182 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 2: scandal obviously under the Giles government.