WEBVTT - COSIMA - THE TRAITORS AUSTRALIA

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload the podcast last week Their Life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yea, guys, welcome back to TV Reload. My name is

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<v Speaker 2>Benjamin Norris and today I'm joined by one of the

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<v Speaker 2>ogs of Australian reality television. It's Cossimer de Vito. More

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<v Speaker 2>than two decades after Australian Idol made her a household name,

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<v Speaker 2>Cossima has finally returned to reality television as a faithful

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<v Speaker 2>on the Traders Australia and Guys, I have so much

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<v Speaker 2>to unpack after a brutal banishment. Cossimer will reveal what

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<v Speaker 2>she thinks really turned the group against her, why she

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<v Speaker 2>was stunned to discover it was the Faithfuls and particularly

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<v Speaker 2>the twins, who helped drive the vote, and why the

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<v Speaker 2>decision not to bring Cam back into the game has

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<v Speaker 2>completely changed the way that she looks at some of

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<v Speaker 2>her fellow players. We also get into the incredible reunion

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<v Speaker 2>with Ian Dicko Dixon, the bond that they've maintained since

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<v Speaker 2>Australian Idol, and why Cossimer says that even if she'd

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<v Speaker 2>suspected Dicko was a Trader, she would never have voted

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<v Speaker 2>him out and because I've been waiting twenty three years

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<v Speaker 2>to ask her some of these questions, we go right

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<v Speaker 2>back to Australian idol, including when the war is over,

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<v Speaker 2>the Nodules, life after the show, and why she has

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<v Speaker 2>repeatedly turned down offers to compete on the Voice Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, Costomer explains why she'd happily return as a

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<v Speaker 2>coach or a judge, but believes going back as a

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<v Speaker 2>contestant would feel like a step backwards. Plus, she reveals

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<v Speaker 2>why The Traders was finally the reality show that made

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<v Speaker 2>her say yes after all of these years of turning

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<v Speaker 2>down opportunities, and what becoming a mum had to do

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<v Speaker 2>with the timing of her television comeback. I absolutely love

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<v Speaker 2>this chat, some fantastic behind the scenes Trader's tea, And

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<v Speaker 2>as you're about to hear, I may still be campaigning

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<v Speaker 2>harder than anyone in Australia to get Cossomer back onto

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<v Speaker 2>a singing show. So guys, let's bring her into the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Costumer Devido tea Cossimer, how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good? How are you? I feel like you're like.

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<v Speaker 2>The og of reality television, Like you know when I

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<v Speaker 2>think about reality television starting. I think about Cosma, I

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<v Speaker 2>think about Nodules, and I think about you being robbed

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<v Speaker 2>when you pulled yourself out of a competition of Australian

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<v Speaker 2>Idol like Girls. That show was yours, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it happened again last night shots Fan on

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<v Speaker 1>National TV. We did go there defending me again.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyone asked you to go on reality TV again? Can

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<v Speaker 2>you just say as long as Dicker, Yeah, as.

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<v Speaker 1>Long as Sticko is there one hundred percent, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>It needs to be. Yeah, he's my backbone, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, why did you do this show? Because,

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<v Speaker 2>like I know for a fact that they've asked you

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<v Speaker 2>many times to do other reality shows, particularly The Voice Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>They've asked you for that one. You keep saying no,

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's no one on the record telling me about

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<v Speaker 2>why you keep saying no to the Voice Australia. Can

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<v Speaker 2>you please tell me now?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I you know, when I did Idle, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know very much and it just made sense to do

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<v Speaker 1>Australian Idol. But for me, with everything that I know

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<v Speaker 1>and in the industry for twenty three is me going

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<v Speaker 1>on the Voice for two minutes of fame to sing

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<v Speaker 1>just doesn't make sense to me. It just I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to. I don't. I feel like I'm past that

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<v Speaker 1>whole contestant thing. I don't want to get up there

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<v Speaker 1>for two minutes and be judged by people on a

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<v Speaker 1>panel when I know what I've done.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a girlfriend of mine from Perth and she

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<v Speaker 2>handed out at Cossimer T shirts and she still has

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<v Speaker 2>a box of Cossamer T shirts ready to hand out again.

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<v Speaker 2>So like win that show, see, I don't think. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think I would.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like they're wanting me, constantly asking me and

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<v Speaker 1>wanting me to be on there. I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>more of a ratings thing and they would never let

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<v Speaker 1>me win. I feel like I feel like they wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I mean. I just I don't know. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why I'd go on there as a coach, as a judge,

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<v Speaker 1>but as a contestant. I don't know. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it would take away from what I've what I did

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<v Speaker 1>on Idol, and it would take away from everything else

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<v Speaker 1>that I've done. Why just to go on there and

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<v Speaker 1>just to sing and just to be judged. When I

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<v Speaker 1>did Idol, it made sense. I was a nobody, I

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<v Speaker 1>was learning, I was growing. But now it's just like

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like would be a step back just to

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<v Speaker 1>get those two Do you know what I mean? Does

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<v Speaker 1>that make sense?

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<v Speaker 2>It makes sense to me, but at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't make any sense. Like I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you, girl, you need to go on that show

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<v Speaker 2>because I can tell you this is like really embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 2>There isn't a night where, you know, when people do

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<v Speaker 2>the YouTube night, they drink lots of wine and they

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<v Speaker 2>sing along to the music with their friends. Yes, you

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<v Speaker 2>are my number one no matter what happens on the playlist.

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<v Speaker 2>When the war is over, Costavito, when the war, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't see that's a good way, yes me, Like, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>you've been sung by some of the most iconic Australians

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<v Speaker 2>ever and your version of that still is the best

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<v Speaker 2>version that's ever existed.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, Ben, when I decided to do

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<v Speaker 1>that song on the show, the producers and everyone were like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you mean you're going to do when the

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<v Speaker 1>war is over? Like, do you know it's John Farnaman Coltures.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, I know, but what do you mean

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to to do it. I'm like, trust me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a girl, but trust me, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>do this song like I had to stick by. I

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<v Speaker 1>just knew, I just every fiber of my being knew

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<v Speaker 1>that it was the right song for that week, for

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<v Speaker 1>Aussie weeks. I knew I had to do that song.

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<v Speaker 2>You remember the outfit that you were wearing, because I

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<v Speaker 2>remember what you were wearing.

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<v Speaker 1>I do the Bonds T shirt with the gold but

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, yes heavy.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, we need to talk Traders because everyone's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be like, shut up. But I can't understand what happened

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<v Speaker 2>in this episode when all of a sudden the tide

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<v Speaker 2>changed and everyone thought that they needed to get rid

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<v Speaker 2>of you, and Dicko did try to help you, But

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<v Speaker 2>what went wrong in real time? What went wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>I watched the episode, obviously for the first time yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought maybe the Traders had something to do

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<v Speaker 1>with it, but instead it was the Faithfuls. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the Twins. Never in a million years, I thought they

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<v Speaker 1>had my back, I had their back, I thought they

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<v Speaker 1>had mine, but they just drove it. And I think maybe, like,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm pretty quiet but at breakfast because Manaka had

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<v Speaker 1>said the day before he gets I'm going to get murdered.

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<v Speaker 1>I know because I know who the traders are and

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<v Speaker 1>he had out of the sixth they were in there.

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<v Speaker 1>So when he didn't rock up at breakfast, I just

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<v Speaker 1>went all wog on everyone. I just just I just

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<v Speaker 1>went look, the evidence is so clear. He got murdered.

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<v Speaker 1>He knew exactly, you know, he was being goofy, but

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<v Speaker 1>he was on the ball with who it was gonna be.

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<v Speaker 1>And everyone just turned around. Here was like, but it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter. I'm like, what do you mean at that? Like, love,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you mean? It doesn't matter? He was murdered

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<v Speaker 1>and he picked them all and it freak if me

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<v Speaker 1>saying that. I think just freaked them out. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, wait a minute, You've gone from being one

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<v Speaker 1>person to being like totally force fall and pushing an agenda.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pushing an agenda because we've banished a faithful and

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<v Speaker 1>we've lost two faithfuls to murder, Like we need to

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<v Speaker 1>we need to get with the program people. The evidence

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<v Speaker 1>is right in front of you. And then when I

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<v Speaker 1>find out that they don't pick Cam, I get the

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<v Speaker 1>faithfuls made that decison. Cooby just sat back beautifully. Was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh nice, they're making the decision for me. What was

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with bringing Cam back? You hadn't even played the game?

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<v Speaker 1>Can we like think outside the game for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Where's your moral compass? Bring him back? And we get Tim,

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<v Speaker 1>but they left him? How do you look at him

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<v Speaker 1>and leave him there? I'm like, what is I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>at him going who are these people? Who are they?

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<v Speaker 1>At that point, I was like, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be here. They are not my people.

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<v Speaker 2>Cost I'm you know, if you've been not doing reality

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<v Speaker 2>television for a little while now, and I just in

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<v Speaker 2>what has happened to the world and in the meantime

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<v Speaker 2>is reality TV contestants will do anything for screen time,

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<v Speaker 2>and if they get told another reality TV person is

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<v Speaker 2>about to turn up and take some screen time, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to take the money. They Cam is a

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<v Speaker 2>big personality. If Cam was in this series in any capacity,

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<v Speaker 2>he could have taken away from other people's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>five minutes of fame. I don't know. Maybe that's why

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't bring him back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how do you do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Selfish?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, I just and you know, Henry the

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<v Speaker 1>most incredible argument, incredible the way mine works like kids

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<v Speaker 1>like Dicker. They're very they sit back and they watch analyze,

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<v Speaker 1>very very smart. But you know, Kirby was so calm

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<v Speaker 1>in her responses, and I just went all Italian fiery,

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<v Speaker 1>no I'm innocent, blah blah blah, like maybe I've explained

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<v Speaker 1>myself and people just went, yeah, no, she's a trader's

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<v Speaker 1>really and then they all just likee cheap, just went costomeer,

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<v Speaker 1>costome a, cost my gamble cost them.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, no one can spell there are The only name

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<v Speaker 2>that a reality TV person can spell is their own

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<v Speaker 2>because they're so self obsessed.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're right, this is the first reality TV I've

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<v Speaker 1>been since Idol and Idols basically it was three years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Television was very different, very very different back then, and

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<v Speaker 1>now it's a different game altogether. Like you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>generation X, their generation Y and Z very very I

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<v Speaker 1>just want.

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<v Speaker 2>To know, do you think that they brought you and

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<v Speaker 2>Dicko back expecting that there might be a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of beef between the two of you might be interesting

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<v Speaker 2>to put you both back in the room, And maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't know that you'd had a connection. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what's been going on with you and Dicko since

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<v Speaker 2>Idol and now And do you think that they put

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<v Speaker 2>you to get together to sort of rehash any old wounds.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think that they was expecting?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think I you know, when I saw him

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<v Speaker 1>come out of the car, For me, it was like

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<v Speaker 1>the best moment ever. I knew, I knew, I knew

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<v Speaker 1>at once. I was like, oh my god, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>an la Okay, I can relax now. And I knew

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<v Speaker 1>before he even started the alliance. I knew that I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have had his back regardless if I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was a trader or not. I think he and

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<v Speaker 1>I were brought back together, not for beef, but just

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<v Speaker 1>for that whole nostalgia.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you have felt the same way if Mark Holden

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<v Speaker 2>came out of the car? Would you have felt same way?

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<v Speaker 1>Not as much? But Mark Mark was you know Mark

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning of Yeah, he was a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>fluffy with a lot of his comments during Idle, but

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<v Speaker 1>when it came to me, you know, he said, I

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<v Speaker 1>was the best singer in the competition. I had the

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<v Speaker 1>first touchdown of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you created it much.

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<v Speaker 1>Job, that's right, But Dicko, for me, my relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>him was different because you know, when I was in

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<v Speaker 1>Perth and we did the auditions, he was the only

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<v Speaker 1>one that said no. It was Marsha and Mark that

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<v Speaker 1>said yes to bring me to Sydney. And at that

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<v Speaker 1>point I remember looking at him going, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>win you over. I remember saying that to myself, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to win you over. And so for the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the competition, he could see that I was growing

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know his advice at times, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he made fun of my eyebrows whatever, but like his

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<v Speaker 1>advice was really on point and I could see that

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<v Speaker 1>he was trying to push me, and I like that

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<v Speaker 1>about him. So he can be very straightforward and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit cruel, but straightforward he says. He says

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<v Speaker 1>things as they are, and I like that about him. Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>I love him too. But sometimes he would fluff around

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit with his comments, so you didn't really know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was he was just different. It was different. But

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<v Speaker 1>seeing Dicko was just, oh, it was the best.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you feel about the fact that he kept

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<v Speaker 2>referring to as sweetheart, you know, my darling. He every

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<v Speaker 2>time you every time he referred to you during the Traders,

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<v Speaker 2>he gave you sort of this what's the call, like

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<v Speaker 2>a very glowing introduction every time he's obsessed with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well here, it was just because he was part of

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<v Speaker 1>He was part of my gross he was part of

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<v Speaker 1>my at the time. He was the one that pushed

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<v Speaker 1>me and I every week i'd you know, tried different

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<v Speaker 1>our fits and push myself and and his comments were

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<v Speaker 1>always very constructive. And I like that about him, very

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<v Speaker 1>very upfront and abrupt and very but he was very honest,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, he was thinking as an executive and

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to push me, and he's the reason why.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, that's that's twenty three years, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's a long time. And I haven't seen him in

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<v Speaker 1>such a long time. But you can't. You can't break

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<v Speaker 1>that bond. You just can't. And I would have I

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<v Speaker 1>would have. I would have fought against him till the end.

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<v Speaker 1>We would have got all, We would have fought together

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<v Speaker 1>till the end, one hundred percent. Even if I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was a trader, he would have been an amazing trader.

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<v Speaker 1>And never would have voted against him, never, never, out

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<v Speaker 1>of loyty, because that's that's how I'm built, But clearly

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<v Speaker 1>the Twins are not.

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<v Speaker 2>No, the Twins are the Twins. I heard the Twins

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<v Speaker 2>love a red wine. But anyway, that's a different podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to say, yeah, I think didn't they

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<v Speaker 2>change the drinking during filming because they were like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>the Twins on the first night hit them. Anyway, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a different podcast. I want to ask you, why the Traders.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my last questions behind the scenes of The Traders

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<v Speaker 2>season three, the reboot of all reboots, they get Costamer

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<v Speaker 2>back on television. Why did you say yes to this?

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<v Speaker 1>So I've been asked to do a lot of reality

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<v Speaker 1>TV over the years, like Goding, Celebrity and yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've said no purely because, look, I have an eight

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<v Speaker 1>year old daughter. That's the main reason I have an

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<v Speaker 1>eight year old daughter. And it's just now it seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to be the right time, I think, to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to jump back in and it wasn't singing, so I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Okay, I can do this. There's nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do with it singing. It's just relying on I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>instinct and whatever it is. And I didn't even watch

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<v Speaker 1>the show. I should have watched it. I should have

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<v Speaker 1>been more prepared, but yeah, it just felt like it

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<v Speaker 1>was the right time to try something new because my

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<v Speaker 1>little girl she's at and it just yeah, it just

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<v Speaker 1>feels like it's the right time to jump back in.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also thought it was quite interesting. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>such an interesting concept.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing that was missing lately is a Costomer.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just really disappointed that when you know, because this

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<v Speaker 2>show was filmed in September October last year, you have

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of time to drop a single on us the Traders, like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, collaborated with the Rogue Traders, and you

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<v Speaker 2>could have come back with a Cossomer Traders song, but

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<v Speaker 2>you would have called it like rogue Trade.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's put it out to the universe. That's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so I'm manifesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Love it. I love it. Bring it on.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go and put on one of those

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<v Speaker 2>Cossomer T shirts right now. I am a true blue

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<v Speaker 2>fan of yours right from the very start. I absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>adore you. Thank you for saying yes to the Traders,

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<v Speaker 2>but please do the voice. Your daughter needs to see

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<v Speaker 2>you on national television. Win a show, win something.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, I'm behind you.

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<v Speaker 2>Think of that okay enjoy chatting to the media. Much

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<v Speaker 2>love to you,