Speaker 1: Good day, Peter, Hell ay you here, Welcome to you
Speaker 1: Ain't seen Nothing yet?
Speaker 2: The movie podcast, where I chat to a movie lover
Speaker 2: about a classical but loved movie they haven't quite got
Speaker 2: around to watching until now. In today's guests, comedian Dave hughes.
Speaker 1: Would you give me a hat with the bags?
Speaker 3: You take the blind and I'll take the one in
Speaker 3: the table.
Speaker 4: Sir, the most evermost the coin to go ahead, make
Speaker 4: my day.
Speaker 1: Right now?
Speaker 2: You ain't seen nothing, Dave Hughesy Hugh hughs is a
Speaker 2: genuine giant of the Australian comedy industry. A career spanning
Speaker 2: over twenty five years and counting, Hughsey has been a
Speaker 2: huge draw card live on stage on his multiple radio shows.
Speaker 2: He's just started Breakfast on Sidney's TODAYFM with Erin Mollan
Speaker 2: and Ed Caveley, and his own TV hit TV show
Speaker 2: Hughsey We Have a Problem. Hughsey was one of the
Speaker 2: first blokes I've met in comedy. He complimented me on
Speaker 2: my set after my fourth gig and knowing him like
Speaker 2: I do now sing a new comedian perform a nice
Speaker 2: tight five must have really pissed him off just a
Speaker 2: little But since that faithful night, Hughsey has been a
Speaker 2: great mate, a great supporter of mine. We've worked together
Speaker 2: on road of Live before the Game, done a bit
Speaker 2: of radio together, and of course we tag team on
Speaker 2: the project a few years ago. Hughsey has been a confidante,
Speaker 2: a man who's always looking how life can be better
Speaker 2: for himself and everyone around him, and I couldn't be
Speaker 2: happy to have him here with me today.
Speaker 5: That was one of the best intros I've ever had.
Speaker 5: I'm not just peeing in your pocket, Pete. I very
Speaker 5: much enjoyed that intro. Thank you, No, you do your
Speaker 5: bit now well, I mean, Peter, Well, I have to
Speaker 5: do the same for you do I's happened at every.
Speaker 1: Now. I am Dave.
Speaker 5: Hughesy Hughes, and my favorite three films are Crocodile, Dundee,
Speaker 5: that's a nice chopper, I don't want to go to
Speaker 5: bed and Zoolander.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I was reporting with this perfect porm structure.
Speaker 5: And the film I'd never seen before until last night
Speaker 5: was Pretty in Pink.
Speaker 2: Yes, nineteen eighty six could barely be more nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 2: In John Hughes's teen romance classic Pretty in pink Queen
Speaker 2: of the eighties at least eighties movie set in American
Speaker 2: high schools. Molly Ringwold plays Andy, a girl born on
Speaker 2: the wrong side of the tracks. To drive home the
Speaker 2: point we actually see the tracks, who lives in a
Speaker 2: modest dwelling with her father Jack, who's wife and his
Speaker 2: mum did a runner on him three years prior. Andy
Speaker 2: Nley has the burden of having the only job in
Speaker 2: the family and the usual pressures of high school, but
Speaker 2: it's also put on her to keep her dad out
Speaker 2: of his often bed ridden state of depression. The one
Speaker 2: constant in Andy's life is Ducky played by John Cryer,
Speaker 2: who dreams of one day sweeping his bff off her feet.
Speaker 2: So when the rich yuppies begin taking notice of Andy,
Speaker 2: namely Andrew McCarthy's Blaine and James Spader's death, Ducky's fan
Speaker 2: and and his life gets thrown into a tailspin. Kentucky
Speaker 2: make it out of the friend zone. He's a cool
Speaker 2: lady's soundtrack enough to hang all this together and well,
Speaker 2: and who will Andy have on her arm come prom night?
Speaker 2: A man who has no doubt spent some time in
Speaker 2: his younger years in the friend zone is dat.
Speaker 1: Mate.
Speaker 5: Not only have I been in the friend zone, I've
Speaker 5: been on the wrong side of the tracks. I've not
Speaker 5: had a date to the prime.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Now, I've lived many aspects of the teenage lives of
Speaker 5: the characters in Pretty in Pink, and I've never seen
Speaker 5: the film.
Speaker 1: I was surprised. We actually a full confession.
Speaker 2: We actually had another movie ready to go, which was
Speaker 2: a more recent film two thousand and eight Oscar winner,
Speaker 2: The Shape of Water, but he has a technical issue,
Speaker 2: so it was a late change of plans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very difficult.
Speaker 5: I mean, I've got an Amazon Amazon Prime account, and
Speaker 5: I love the local content that they get out there.
Speaker 5: Netflix s take note. But I couldn't get My credit
Speaker 5: card had expired and I had to put a new
Speaker 5: credit card in.
Speaker 1: It just wasn't working.
Speaker 5: And it was like I was prepared to pay the
Speaker 5: five dollars rental for the Shape of Water, even though
Speaker 5: I vowed I'd never watched that film because the name
Speaker 5: of the film angry. I mean, water has no shape,
Speaker 5: and it's like it's like the color of sound or
Speaker 5: the sound of color.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not like the pretentious titles of films annoy
Speaker 5: me and can put me off.
Speaker 1: The one.
Speaker 2: Well, my friend here, he hates the title three Kings
Speaker 2: for the George Clooney movie because he knows there was
Speaker 2: four characters in there, because I think that the poster
Speaker 2: may have even had the four of them or something.
Speaker 1: And he goes, well, I know, I know one of
Speaker 1: them dies. What's the point of me seeing it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah right, it was his point.
Speaker 5: Well, I drove past a housing development the other day.
Speaker 5: Actually you won't. No, I didn't know, but it was
Speaker 5: the building. It was the it was called the Elwood five.
Speaker 5: And they are only advertising four.
Speaker 1: Five.
Speaker 5: There's only four here, one underground.
Speaker 1: Just make it clear.
Speaker 2: So so just quickly before we get up, because I
Speaker 2: want to circle back to your three films that you
Speaker 2: have nominated, your few favorites. But what do you this?
Speaker 2: Give us an impression of pretty impink? Did you look again?
Speaker 5: The title is probably probably what put me off ever
Speaker 5: watching that film, even though you know John Hughes was
Speaker 5: a director who.
Speaker 1: I think passed away recently. I think, is that right? Yes,
Speaker 1: he passed away a few years ago.
Speaker 2: And finally enough and I'll just pick you up on
Speaker 2: that because some people might be screaming at the device listening.
Speaker 2: He was actually directed by a guy called Howard Deutsch
Speaker 2: and not directed by John. John Hues wrote it. I
Speaker 2: always thought he directed this, and it was only until
Speaker 2: last night watching it that I realized that he didn't.
Speaker 1: Well, there you go again. I didn't obviously didn't pay
Speaker 1: enough attention.
Speaker 5: To the credits because I thought he directed it, and
Speaker 5: he directed the Breakfast Club Breakfast.
Speaker 1: Club sixteen candles one? Did he direct? Did you do
Speaker 1: first Bull? Yes? Yeah, fairest Bully.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my favorite, one of my favoriteilms, Playing Strains and
Speaker 2: Hounobiles is great.
Speaker 1: Film is absolutely favorites. Yeah. No, he's very good. Well
Speaker 1: he was, and you know his movies will live on.
Speaker 2: They will thanks to podcasts and conversations like we're about
Speaker 2: to have, Hughsey. I'm looking forward to seeing what you
Speaker 2: thought of Andy and Ducky and Steph and Blaine. But
Speaker 2: let's go back. You've you've aussied up. Good for you
Speaker 2: you're a big supporter of local content. But take us
Speaker 2: through when you first do you remember you remember when
Speaker 2: you first saw Crocodile Dundee.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I look at the cinema in Warnable.
Speaker 5: It would have been so yeah, my hometown country Victoria,
Speaker 5: Southwest Victoria, beautiful town.
Speaker 1: Get down there if you've got the chance. Uh.
Speaker 5: And on the coast underrated. It's just after the end
Speaker 5: of the Greatest and Road. So keep going, keep driving
Speaker 5: or dismiss great oceanary completely and drives straight to Warnable
Speaker 5: from Melbourne.
Speaker 2: So now I was talking about crocodile. Yes, I'm not
Speaker 2: shot surprisingly Warnable. Yeah, no, I'll tell you what was
Speaker 2: was shot in odd Ball Jacobson very successful Australian film,
Speaker 2: Oddball and involving Marama dog that protects penguins at an
Speaker 2: island just off Warnable's coast, like literally a paddle away,
Speaker 2: like you can walk to the island being allowed to
Speaker 2: because it's shut off from humans now. But anyway, so
Speaker 2: to protect the penguins.
Speaker 5: Now, yeah, crocodile dundere you just that was just unbelievable,
Speaker 5: Paul Hogan.
Speaker 1: It hasn't hasn't been repeated. I hope it is repeated.
Speaker 5: I mean I hope either me or you at one point.
Speaker 5: And now before we leave this mortal coil right now,
Speaker 5: your film was great, don't get me wrong, Yes, amazing.
Speaker 1: It fell a little bit short of Crocodile Too, Master Smidge,
Speaker 1: at least you've done it, mate.
Speaker 2: A Smidge Too was a great film, second biggest film
Speaker 2: of that year and the biggest film of nineteen hour
Speaker 2: What was We spoke about it recently. It'll come back
Speaker 2: to me because Top Gun, Yeah, wow, just behind the
Speaker 2: top Gun, just just and just beak. Crocodile Dundee and
Speaker 2: Platoon was third.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Look, Crocodile Dundee was and I watched it and I've
Speaker 5: got my kids to watch it. Only recently made within
Speaker 5: the last six months, and it has stood the test
Speaker 5: of time. It hasn't dated like you know, political correctness
Speaker 5: wise either. It's it's it is a it's a beautiful.
Speaker 1: Film of Crocodile Dundee.
Speaker 5: And yeah, Paul Hogan I spoke to recently on the radio,
Speaker 5: is a very humble man, and yeah, he what he
Speaker 5: did with that film and you know, subsequent films, but
Speaker 5: that one especially was absolutely incredible and it's funny, great story.
Speaker 1: It was wonderful. I spoke Hoagues on the project recently too.
Speaker 2: It's funny talking to him because like like I think
Speaker 2: we you know a lot of comedies now quite open
Speaker 2: almost with their ambition because you know, like like you know,
Speaker 2: you just mentioned wouldn't it be great if you know film?
Speaker 2: And it's people like Paul Hogan who made us in
Speaker 2: a way dream that this could happen. But when you
Speaker 2: talk to him, it was all an accident, like and
Speaker 2: he almost didn't even want it really like it was
Speaker 2: you know, after a while.
Speaker 1: I don't really want to work anymore.
Speaker 2: You know, they get them dragging him back to do
Speaker 2: the Flipper, and but he was like, no, you know,
Speaker 2: I want to retire.
Speaker 1: I wanting to retire. Yeah, well, yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 5: I mean you care for what you wish for or
Speaker 5: careful something something in that, something in that. But yeah,
Speaker 5: well whatever he thinks of what happened subsequently, he can
Speaker 5: always and then not that you want to live in
Speaker 5: the past, and I'm sure he doesn't live in the past.
Speaker 5: But yeah, that film was an absolute He was a
Speaker 5: home run.
Speaker 1: We hit a six. I should say we could hit
Speaker 1: in a power play. I'm not sure power.
Speaker 5: Plays back then. They just hit a six. Did they
Speaker 5: even have one day cricket then they would have Yeah,
Speaker 5: of course they did.
Speaker 1: Did one day cricket start yeah, seventy nine? Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that would have been eighty six. It was going not
Speaker 1: long after that was One Day Cricket man.
Speaker 2: That was when One Day Cricket replayed and it was
Speaker 2: in your hometown's Melbourne. Had to wait up for the
Speaker 2: highlights at night and they would just play like an
Speaker 2: hour package of the highlights.
Speaker 1: Mate. I played the first two hours of the game
Speaker 1: and then you had to wait till later on. If
Speaker 1: you avoided the radio, you could watch with you exactly.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 5: I look growing up in a country town and I
Speaker 5: remember every year we'd have one trip to the One
Speaker 5: Day Cricket a year. That was a big trip to Melbourne,
Speaker 5: and I just remember just being so panicked about the
Speaker 5: fact that it could rain and the game might get
Speaker 5: rained out.
Speaker 1: It was real, like, you know, just praying to God,
Speaker 1: I did rain today.
Speaker 5: God, I don't care what else you do in the world,
Speaker 5: but don't let it rain in Melbourne today on this
Speaker 5: One Day Cricket.
Speaker 2: It was exciting and Crocodile had done dee. It was
Speaker 2: genuinely just so. I remember seeing it. I saw it
Speaker 2: a couple of times at Greensboro Twin, which was my
Speaker 2: cinema trust, and then I went to uh there was
Speaker 2: back and when the Montmorency there was the submarine weird Street.
Speaker 5: I have Christmas and Monmorenci this year, mate, Well you
Speaker 5: could have Christmas there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yes, we are recording this a few days after Christmas,
Speaker 2: but it'll be ye two. So yeah, you could have
Speaker 2: had Christmas and then gone down a weir street and
Speaker 2: wats a movie. That's where I saw Crocodile Dundee for
Speaker 2: the second time. But it was just so exciting and
Speaker 2: that had that movie explode like it didn't see Hoges
Speaker 2: present at the Academy Awards.
Speaker 5: Smash also Smashed at the Academy Awards, and look, get
Speaker 5: on YouTube if you haven't seen it and watch Hoages
Speaker 5: presented the Academy Awards of eighty seven.
Speaker 1: Eighty six. Yeah it came out six Yeah, well yeah,
Speaker 1: have a look at it.
Speaker 5: Absolutely slays the audience and doesn't change it doesn't change
Speaker 5: persona at all, just absolutely is himself on that world stage.
Speaker 1: And I love.
Speaker 4: It, yours.
Speaker 3: This is my first time at the Academy Awards. I
Speaker 3: usually watch it on television and for that reason I've
Speaker 3: been asked to come out here and speak to my
Speaker 3: peers on behalf of the television audience good eight peers.
Speaker 3: This is, of course the big event of show business,
Speaker 3: and the atmosphere here is pure electricity. But as a
Speaker 3: television show it does tend to go slightly off the boil,
Speaker 3: particularly as we drift into the.
Speaker 1: Third and fourth hour. What can we do about it?
Speaker 3: Firstly, winners, when you make your speech, it's a good
Speaker 3: tip to remember the three g's, be gracious, be grateful,
Speaker 3: get off. Secondly, don't be too humble tonight, because we
Speaker 3: have up here the second envelope. If I don't get
Speaker 3: up in the stage and say I don't deserve this award.
Speaker 1: If you really feel you.
Speaker 3: Don't deserve an Academy award, just give us away from
Speaker 3: your seat.
Speaker 1: And he's got a book and it covers a lot
Speaker 1: of this, a lot of this stuff, you know what.
Speaker 1: It's sitting on my bedside table and I haven't started
Speaker 1: reading it yet. Usually you read the book before you terrible.
Speaker 2: That's what I did, Different different strategies for different broadcasters.
Speaker 1: Is great.
Speaker 2: It's a great, great And he talks about a lot
Speaker 2: of the Academy wasn't like they wanted to rehearse, and
Speaker 2: he just didn't. He hated rehearsing, and the Americans are
Speaker 2: like going, I don't you know, how can you? And
Speaker 2: apparently there's one producer I think it's seen like Hindu
Speaker 2: Leo Wanker, And he goes.
Speaker 1: That's Leo Wanker. He doesn't have to rehearse check out crack.
Speaker 2: The one thing Paul Hogan mentions in the book that
Speaker 2: he kind of feared that would be, you know, a
Speaker 2: few people to try to maybe get the fiel, whether
Speaker 2: it's canceled or just complained about. It was a scene
Speaker 2: in the in the bar where he, uh, there's the
Speaker 2: drag queen. Yeah, he goes, and Hoax's point is that
Speaker 2: you know, this is a guy who's lived in the outback. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, and there's never been to us, doesn't even
Speaker 2: know what an escalator is.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, look, I mean watch watch old
Speaker 5: episodes of Friends, which my kids are addicted to us,
Speaker 5: and that you get canceled as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, by Friends is a fair run not to my
Speaker 2: liking necessarily in my house.
Speaker 1: And there are some stuff which is not that bad.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, so yeah, very kind of canceled that before you cancel.
Speaker 2: A lot of like references to gay that not necessarily
Speaker 2: you know, the positive sense, but anyway, we're not here
Speaker 2: to cancel friends either. There's a pub around that we are.
Speaker 2: Castways Studios is in Collingwood. I spent some time living
Speaker 2: here in Collingwood. There's a pub called the Leinster Arms
Speaker 2: around the corner that I used to freaking quite a bit.
Speaker 2: A man who used to be also frequent there most
Speaker 2: nights was a guy called Chopper Read. And and Chopper
Speaker 2: Read we got chatting through him one night in the
Speaker 2: pub and and he he gave me a bag of
Speaker 2: well drugs and it was and he asked, you bought it?
Speaker 1: Didn't didn't ask it didn't didn't And don't you know
Speaker 1: you don't.
Speaker 2: I don't not a drug user, so uh, and it
Speaker 2: was like basically we but it seemed to be have
Speaker 2: other stuff in there, like laced with something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the sort of stuff that your father might
Speaker 1: have worn about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I I didn't know what else to do
Speaker 2: but take it and then and then I just put
Speaker 2: it in my my my my bedside table topped draw off.
Speaker 2: For five months. I basically can tell him besides my
Speaker 2: mate about it. And he's not it wasn't it wasn't
Speaker 2: And he's not the drug user. But He eventually said
Speaker 2: to my girlfriend whose name my wife, I said, it's
Speaker 2: funny thing that Chopper gave me this bay of drug
Speaker 2: and she goes, what did you do with us? It's
Speaker 2: in my beds table?
Speaker 1: She yes, why is there your bedside table? You could
Speaker 1: get a red rid of it, get rid of it.
Speaker 1: What are you doing? I said, at anytime I was memorabilia. Yes,
Speaker 1: I understand that absolutely, but he's no longer, no longer
Speaker 1: with us.
Speaker 2: And so for those who don't know, Chopper was a formidable,
Speaker 2: infamous underground figure here in Melbourne, the film Chopper starring
Speaker 2: Eric Banner was really like kind of a massive success,
Speaker 2: huge and huge for Eric Banner in particular.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, well that film Eric Banner. I used to
Speaker 1: do gigs with.
Speaker 5: Eric is a stand up comedian. Originally he was on TV.
Speaker 5: Are you doing sketch comedy? Very successful sketch comedy star
Speaker 5: in Australia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 5: One of my first tastes of hanging out with fame
Speaker 5: was being in Eric Banner's car as I was going
Speaker 5: to support him at a gig in a in a
Speaker 5: a sub we called Yarraville and on the way out
Speaker 5: we got macas and I just remember going through the
Speaker 5: drive through and there and the person behind the you know,
Speaker 5: with the headset on freaked out that Eric Banner was
Speaker 5: was was ordering macas.
Speaker 1: And this is pre movie, Eric Banner, Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: a TV Eric still a big star. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so but yeah, I was, oh my god, for that.
Speaker 5: I want some of that, I want some of that.
Speaker 5: But yeah, so when Chopper was I was at the premiere.
Speaker 5: How did you go to the premiere?
Speaker 1: Was at the rival.
Speaker 6: There?
Speaker 1: That's yeah. So, and I had no idea what to expect.
Speaker 5: I only known Eric as a you know, as a
Speaker 5: very funny stand up comedian and sketch comedy star. Didn't
Speaker 5: know he could do a serious movie. Didn't know that
Speaker 5: Chopper would work as a film. No one did he
Speaker 5: It seemed quite soon.
Speaker 2: Usually there's a bit of time, and this is chop
Speaker 2: is still alive during this only maybe died in the
Speaker 2: last ten years I think at the time. But so
Speaker 2: this was like a bit surprising. And and like you said,
Speaker 2: we didn't know Eric, Eric was capable of what he's
Speaker 2: what he's gone on.
Speaker 5: It could have been an absolutely, but we walked into
Speaker 5: that cinema thinking this could and I certainly did.
Speaker 1: This could be a shocker. We just didn't know I doing.
Speaker 2: I remember doing a joke on stage and like going,
Speaker 2: you know, when it was announced that Eric Band was
Speaker 2: gonna play Chopper and it's going. I think it's great.
Speaker 2: I think we should do more of it. I'm looking
Speaker 2: forward to seeing mart Mitchell as Martin Bryant, you know.
Speaker 2: And that's like, that's what that film's coming out.
Speaker 1: It's become it's becoming. Get it back at it.
Speaker 5: It wasn't Mark Mitchell, but the Bright Story is coming out.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: But I and that was a more ridiculous take than
Speaker 2: obviously obviously, yes, but that's the point.
Speaker 1: But it did seem there was a sense of this
Speaker 1: could be anything.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, and I and you know, I like to talk
Speaker 5: myself up, and you know that I was the I
Speaker 5: was blown away by that film in that premiere and
Speaker 5: I'm going to swear on my family's life, I was.
Speaker 5: I made a bee line for Eric Banner as soon
Speaker 5: as the as soon as the lights went up, and
Speaker 5: I was the first person at that premiere to shake
Speaker 5: his hand and I looked him in the eye and
Speaker 5: I said, that was amazing. And I was proven right
Speaker 5: that film went on and is still you know his
Speaker 5: signature piece.
Speaker 1: You made Eric Banner. No, I didn't make Eric Banner.
Speaker 5: I recognized it straight I recognized it straight away. We
Speaker 5: know that Ridley Scott, the famous director, loved it. We
Speaker 5: know that Brad Pitt loved it. We know that that
Speaker 5: that film opened the door to Hollywood for Eric and
Speaker 5: rightly so, and it stands the test of time.
Speaker 1: Is absolutely cracking film.
Speaker 2: Absolutely and Andrew Dominic was a director and he went
Speaker 2: on and.
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt did the Assassination of Love.
Speaker 5: That is a brilliant fan and was not Brad.
Speaker 1: Who else was in that Brad Pitt and.
Speaker 5: Casey Aleck, Yes, he was great in his own right,
Speaker 5: but yeah, great that.
Speaker 1: He was brilliant.
Speaker 2: And he did the other one with Brad Pitt and
Speaker 2: James Gandervalini.
Speaker 1: Years later.
Speaker 2: That'll come to me, but it was awesome as well.
Speaker 2: He's a brilliant direcord. Also, Vince Colossimo was so good
Speaker 2: in that film as the Neville Bartis.
Speaker 1: Yes, I remember I remember what no cash here? No
Speaker 1: cash here?
Speaker 5: Yeah, listen mate, what are you talking about?
Speaker 4: Cash?
Speaker 5: There's no cash here here?
Speaker 7: There's no cash?
Speaker 6: All right?
Speaker 7: Cash? No Robbie, no cash.
Speaker 8: I'll tell you what you try getting from where you're
Speaker 8: sitting to the front door, because I reckon I could
Speaker 8: shoot you from where you're sitting to the front door,
Speaker 8: because that's about as long as you've got to produce
Speaker 8: some money for me right now. I'll give you twenty
Speaker 8: seconds to produce some cash. As fucking future.
Speaker 1: One two, I've got no cash, make for I told
Speaker 1: you this.
Speaker 2: You coming, We shut the fuck down eleven ff. I
Speaker 2: remember watching that film and being do you know when
Speaker 2: you feel like you're in safe hands? And for most
Speaker 2: first opening scenes at Pentridge, I just felt like because
Speaker 2: it had a different look, it almost had like a filter,
Speaker 2: like almost like a greener kind of filter over it,
Speaker 2: and it's like, well, this, this is this is going
Speaker 2: to be a really great film. I think, even maybe
Speaker 2: before I saw Dan Wild's in the early scenes as well,
Speaker 2: and I thought this.
Speaker 5: I was actually back at Pentrides the other day after
Speaker 5: the dry premier, the Dry premiere, so Eric back on stage.
Speaker 1: Great Australian story, very well done. Yeah. So the Drive,
Speaker 1: which I believe you know, is out and check that
Speaker 1: out as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 5: Zoolander, Yeah, Zulander just just just spot Onlander, Just Sulander
Speaker 5: two shocking.
Speaker 1: Do not see Zoolander two if you haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: It was terrible. He was missed the mart but one
Speaker 1: was perfect. I absolutely loved it. Watch it again. You
Speaker 1: know what I love.
Speaker 5: One of the great things of things about having kids
Speaker 5: is that you can introduce them to films that you loved.
Speaker 5: And my kids are watching films that I loved.
Speaker 1: Especially I love Chopper.
Speaker 5: I haven't seen Chopper yet, but they will, but they,
Speaker 5: especially my son who's eleven. I'm really introducing to him
Speaker 5: to all you know, certainly Will Ferrell's back catalog. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and we have just you know, laugh, you laugh all
Speaker 5: over again when you introduce some into a great film,
Speaker 5: you know, a funny film, and you get that joy again.
Speaker 5: So and Zuland is another one. I introduced the kids too,
Speaker 5: and yeah, he loved it.
Speaker 2: It sounds up really well and I'm not sure what
Speaker 2: went wrong with the sequel. We don't really even need
Speaker 2: to discuss it, but it's so funny and everyone at
Speaker 2: their prom because it was like Will Ferrell was. I
Speaker 2: don't think we really knew a lot bit about Will Ferrell.
Speaker 2: I think we knew of him night at the Roxbury,
Speaker 2: which funny and I'm not even sure if i'd seen it.
Speaker 2: By the time I saw Zoolander, I knew he, you know,
Speaker 2: was on Saturday Night Live and would do some impressions
Speaker 2: of you know, the presidents and and stuff, and and
Speaker 2: he wasn't one of the things I loved about it immediately,
Speaker 2: Like it took me in like a couple of a
Speaker 2: couple of viewings to kind of realize how brilliant mcgatu.
Speaker 1: Was. A Lante was too cold. It's just the whole
Speaker 1: David Bowie, you know, yeah, battle.
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Speaker 2: All right, hughsy Now it's time to discuss the film
Speaker 2: of the episode. John Hughes's from nine to eighty six,
Speaker 2: pretty in pink.
Speaker 6: You know you're talking like that just because I'm going out.
Speaker 4: With Blaine Blaine.
Speaker 6: His name is Blaine.
Speaker 1: That's a major repliance.
Speaker 6: That's not a name. Because I'm going out with Blaine
Speaker 6: doesn't mean I can't be friends with you. I mean,
Speaker 6: does it change way I feel about you?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: That's very nice. I'm I'm glad.
Speaker 4: Here's it.
Speaker 1: Here's the point.
Speaker 7: Any I'm not particularly concerned with whether or not you
Speaker 7: like me, because I live to like you and and and.
Speaker 1: I can't like you anymore.
Speaker 7: So, So when you get your heart splattered all over
Speaker 7: Helen and you're feeling really low and dirty, don't don't
Speaker 7: look to me to help pump you back up, because
Speaker 7: because it's because maybe for the first time, and you're like,
Speaker 7: I won't be there.
Speaker 6: I can't believe you're actually seeing this.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess that's just tough shit. Tough shit.
Speaker 5: He's poignant. I mean, that is ducky. Ducky, Yeah, who
Speaker 5: had been.
Speaker 1: Friend zoned by Molly Ringwood or Andy in the film.
Speaker 1: And he did. He was very good in this film. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: he was.
Speaker 2: I warmed to him when I first saw his first
Speaker 2: few exchanges there was, you know, he goes up to
Speaker 2: the two girls and said, okay, one of you're pregnant.
Speaker 2: You know, you're not sure where he's going to land,
Speaker 2: you know when you're first. And by the way, So
Speaker 2: I thought i'd seen most of this film like this
Speaker 2: being on my wife enjoys this film.
Speaker 1: I've certainly seen the end, so I kind of had
Speaker 1: known how it.
Speaker 2: Ended, but I wasn't completely sure of what the contexts
Speaker 2: of the relationships. So I wasn't sure who am I
Speaker 2: supposed to be? Yeah, how's this going to bland?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So it does.
Speaker 5: It holds your interest just for that reason as to
Speaker 5: what will happen at the end. And yeah, but the
Speaker 5: performances were great. It was and it's really I believe
Speaker 5: the film has stood the test of time. I'm I'm
Speaker 5: I was meant to say this now or not?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Does he like or do you
Speaker 1: not like it?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 5: Like it? I really liked it, man, I really liked it.
Speaker 5: And it's it spoke to me with friend zone Ducky.
Speaker 5: You know who is John Cryer? Who I think? Who
Speaker 5: is that guy wout to Google? Yeah, that's really that's
Speaker 5: Charlie Sheen's sidekick in Two and a Half Man, I
Speaker 5: didn't I made Yeah, I did not. I didn't put
Speaker 5: the I hadn't seen that film. I hadn't seen Pretty
Speaker 5: in Pink. But he does a great job.
Speaker 1: He does, and he's he's energetic, He's danced his dance
Speaker 1: to person. Yeah.
Speaker 5: My wife said that she first watched the film. She's
Speaker 5: a bit younger than me, so she wouldn't have watch
Speaker 5: it as it. Oh, no, she might have. Actually, she
Speaker 5: was born in seventy nine and that film came out
Speaker 5: in eighty six. She reckonly watched it when she was
Speaker 5: about nine for the first time, so maybe it was
Speaker 5: a couple of years old she might have seen on video.
Speaker 1: Would she l eighties? Yeah? Jed off the Telly. She
Speaker 1: said that even as a nine year old, she thought,
Speaker 1: why doesn't Molly or Andy go for darky?
Speaker 2: Well, and that's the whole thing about the movie. The
Speaker 2: big question is who is she going to choose? There's
Speaker 2: three choices. It's not just the two because Steph's there
Speaker 2: as well, James with a good head full of hair.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what.
Speaker 5: We google the cast and yes there is some hair
Speaker 5: has been lost over the journey. So Yeah, but he is. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he plays a bit of an evil character, doesn't he
Speaker 5: a bit of a.
Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting.
Speaker 2: There is a case to be made that Steph actually
Speaker 2: did make his feelings known to Andy in a way
Speaker 2: that was he was confident. He wasn't worried about what
Speaker 2: his friends thought of him. He didn't in front of
Speaker 2: his friends where where Ducky's kind of got this kind
Speaker 2: of puppy love and he's like he can't quite bring
Speaker 2: himself to kind of tell Andy. And then you have
Speaker 2: Blaine who's worried about his friends, and Steph kind of
Speaker 2: owns it.
Speaker 1: He just goes up early on, early on. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: rejects him. She rejects him so and he's angry about it.
Speaker 5: He's bitter, and he's easy slagging her off to his
Speaker 5: uppy mate Blaine.
Speaker 1: And you know, he's a package of sleeves. There's no
Speaker 1: doubt about that. The shirt is just it's buttoned low,
Speaker 1: it's hardly buttoned at all.
Speaker 2: No, it's kind of hilarious sometimes where you know John
Speaker 2: Cryer or or Andrew McCarthy will walk off and then
Speaker 2: it's just like Steph will be like leaning against the
Speaker 2: pole in the corner or something looking like he's about
Speaker 2: to shoot you know.
Speaker 1: A yacht, yes, you know, yeah, a video clip on
Speaker 1: a yacht.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so you know there's a case because I
Speaker 2: think the first instinct is to kind of go, you wanker, Steph.
Speaker 2: But I think, and you know, there's certainly a bit
Speaker 2: of that, but I think there's a case to be
Speaker 2: made that you know, he was deserving of some early credits.
Speaker 5: What you're saying is that the characters are reasonably well rounded.
Speaker 5: And I think that's true. And I think John Hughes
Speaker 5: who wrote the film and you've told me he didn't
Speaker 5: direct her, but he wrote the film and he's written
Speaker 5: a good he's written a good, well rounded film. If
Speaker 5: there's other things I related to Molly Ringwood was too
Speaker 5: embarrassed to get dropped off by Andrew McCarthy in his
Speaker 5: BMW in front of her house because she was, you know,
Speaker 5: ashamed of her house.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I grew up in a commission house myself.
Speaker 5: My mother hates me saying this, but you know I
Speaker 5: do remember times not wanting my friends to come round
Speaker 5: to our house because of that. It's humble nature.
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely genuinely would really struck and you know, a
Speaker 2: nerve with you like.
Speaker 1: I did completely.
Speaker 5: And there's you know, even friends of the Molly Ringwood's
Speaker 5: dad who can't get out of bed and is depressed
Speaker 5: and can't work. I've got friends like that, who you know.
Speaker 5: It's yeah, I think the film is great. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: say again, I reckon the headline. The title of the
Speaker 5: film probably put me off with me watching it. Pretty
Speaker 5: in pink and what's that? I think of Alicia's Silverstone
Speaker 5: when I just see that title. Not that I got
Speaker 5: against her, but it was like, you know, I wouldn't
Speaker 5: have expected the film to as you know, deep, Not
Speaker 5: that it's that deep, but it's got it's got.
Speaker 1: Some things going on.
Speaker 2: We meet we meet Andy, and the fact that she's
Speaker 2: you know, looking after her father who has been you know,
Speaker 2: you know, his wife and his mother has run off
Speaker 2: on him. Yeah, that's a detail in a little teen romantic,
Speaker 2: you know, kind of comedy that you.
Speaker 1: Know, that was well. The dad and I think he's
Speaker 1: Harry Dean stand recently. I think so he might have.
Speaker 1: He was good.
Speaker 2: He was good that There's one scene that I feel
Speaker 2: like he didn't quite nail, and I reckon it's a
Speaker 2: scene where she says, when are you going to get over?
Speaker 2: You know, and Molly Ringwoods giving it her she's full
Speaker 2: blown and he he just I didn't believe the transition
Speaker 2: from quickly just kind of grabs her and hugs her,
Speaker 2: and I just it's like there was two kind of
Speaker 2: slightly mismatched actors in that. You think she acted him
Speaker 2: in that moment. I feel like Harry Dean standing in
Speaker 2: that moment couldn't go with Molly.
Speaker 1: Right. Well, yeah, no, that's probably a fair point.
Speaker 2: And if I watched this completely when I was younger
Speaker 2: and this is this is a much loved film, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't have probably noticed that all picked it up, you know.
Speaker 2: I just watching it last night, I just thought, because
Speaker 2: thinking how good he was, and a lot of those
Speaker 2: quieter moments, even when Ducky kind of tells him that
Speaker 2: he wants to marry Andy, like he's really likable, and
Speaker 2: then it's just in that moment and listen, it could
Speaker 2: have been a directorial thing, you know, could have been
Speaker 2: directed better, maybe could have been edited better, but it
Speaker 2: just kind of felt a little bit too almost like
Speaker 2: melodramatic in a way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that's fair. Yeah, another criticism I.
Speaker 2: Have of the film is the I don't understand the
Speaker 2: motivation for a lot of the things that are happening,
Speaker 2: Like I don't really understand why what does Andy c
Speaker 2: in Blaine? And what does Blaine see in Andy? And
Speaker 2: so my wife was saying, that's the same thing. But
Speaker 2: then during the film, and I mean, Blaine does does
Speaker 2: show a sense of humor and you know, a quiet
Speaker 2: sense of humor, and Blaine certainly seems to be a
Speaker 2: lovely person, so and you know, he does have money,
Speaker 2: and I think I think that does come into it
Speaker 2: a little bit.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: When we spoke about Star Wars on this podcast with Lead,
Speaker 2: he made the point of kind of going like what
Speaker 2: does the Empire actually want?
Speaker 1: Like what do they want this paw? What are they
Speaker 1: going to do? Like what do they want?
Speaker 2: And it's like, actually, I've never thought about it, like
Speaker 2: this is back in the day when you were just
Speaker 2: told that the bad they're the bad guys and they're
Speaker 2: the good guys and that was that was enough, That's
Speaker 2: all we needed. And I feel like there's a bit
Speaker 2: of that going on in this film, where it's like
Speaker 2: they're the hot guys. Of course, you know this guy's
Speaker 2: going to fall for the hot guy and then and
Speaker 2: that's then that's the moral question we have to ask ourselves.
Speaker 2: Should we go for the hot guy, should go for
Speaker 2: the for Ducky? And yeah, but it's just like there's
Speaker 2: no even I I owner at the Annie Potts who
Speaker 2: fans of ghost Busses would recognize Silly Piccola is a
Speaker 2: big fan of Anie Potts and the she's the receptionist
Speaker 2: at Ghost Buses.
Speaker 1: Right that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's at the record store and she kind of
Speaker 2: has this kind of like weak, kind of almost a
Speaker 2: little like moment with Na with Ducky, I'm not really
Speaker 2: kind of well, I think Ducky's got an appeal, you know.
Speaker 2: He kisses, Yeah, kiss apparently set her thighs on fire
Speaker 2: or something.
Speaker 5: Yes, And that was great for Duky. And at the
Speaker 5: end of the film, Ducky does get it and we're
Speaker 5: all happy. Can we say what happens at the end
Speaker 5: of the film, At the end of well, yeah, the
Speaker 5: end of the film was I think it was wrapped
Speaker 5: up well where eventually Andrew McCarthy does realize after rejecting
Speaker 5: Molly Ringwood because he was worried about what his parents
Speaker 5: and what his friends would think, he goes to the
Speaker 5: prom on his own, and but she goes, I'm going
Speaker 5: to the prompt.
Speaker 1: I don't care where no one else is going. I'm
Speaker 1: not going.
Speaker 5: He's going to go my own, which is an empowering moment.
Speaker 5: I believe for all people who didn't have a date
Speaker 5: to a prom or some sort of graduation, that they
Speaker 5: should just go anyway.
Speaker 1: Yep, she goes there, ducky is.
Speaker 5: He reunites with her after being so annoyed that she
Speaker 5: had gone for that rich guy, and he walks in
Speaker 5: with a Molly Ringwood. Which is a lovely moment.
Speaker 1: Yes it is. It's a really good moment.
Speaker 2: And I think the moment leading into the prom where
Speaker 2: she says to her dad that I'm going alone and
Speaker 2: I'm okay with it, I think is a really lovely moment.
Speaker 8: Oh my god, look at you.
Speaker 4: Another first, you guys going to fall to the floor
Speaker 4: when he comes in.
Speaker 6: No, we won't. So hell is that? No? He really won't.
Speaker 6: He's not coming what It's okay, I'm going to go alone. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I'm not sad about it. I'm not hurt. I mean
Speaker 6: I am hurt a little bit, but I know if
Speaker 6: I don't do it I'll just feel a lot worse.
Speaker 6: I'm just going to go in, walk in, walk out
Speaker 6: and come home. Sure, some one lets me know that
Speaker 6: it didn't break me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got to get my daughters to watch this film.
Speaker 1: I think. I think a seven. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, I think.
Speaker 2: And I love the Breakfast Breakfast out out of this
Speaker 2: era of John Hughes. The sixteen candles are pretty pink,
Speaker 2: the some kind of wonderful.
Speaker 5: I can't remember that. I've definitely watched The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 5: I can't really remember I watched that again.
Speaker 2: Breakfast Club is is is? I think easily the best
Speaker 2: of those films. Yeah right, and then he kind of
Speaker 2: goes on to like a more at least that's doing
Speaker 2: like Ferris Bueller and playing veins and autobiles and which
Speaker 2: is one of my favorite films.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Home Alone? And what do you do Home Alone?
Speaker 1: As well? I think, yeah, yeah, right, So I didn't know,
Speaker 1: excuse my ignorance for you know, I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: you direct at Home a live but he wrote he
Speaker 1: wrote home Alone. Yeah, right, there you go. I also
Speaker 1: had a national Lampeon's vacation. Yes that was him. Goodness,
Speaker 1: what a career. Well done, that's incredible.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I just think in that moment, Molly ring
Speaker 2: was somebody who I've never had, like, even though I
Speaker 2: love the Breakfast clu, I've never had that kind of like.
Speaker 2: There a lot of I think guys and girls do
Speaker 2: have that almost crushed and the absolute love for Molly
Speaker 2: ring Well, and sometimes I think she's great in one
Speaker 2: scene and then I don't quite get what she's doing
Speaker 2: the other scene. But in that scene where she tells
Speaker 2: her dad that I'm going alone, I think it's as
Speaker 2: good as scene as I've seen Molly Ringwood do.
Speaker 5: Empowering, Yeah, inspiring for everyone, I think, Yeah, and there
Speaker 5: was yeah, well well done. At the end of the film,
Speaker 5: there's a very awkward scene and we all feel sorry
Speaker 5: for Daki when he walks into the prom with Andy
Speaker 5: molly Ringwood and they're holding hands and then then Andrew
Speaker 5: McCarthy comes up. Blaine comes up and basically shape duck
Speaker 5: his hand and takes over. But you know what, then
Speaker 5: you but then I'll take it from here. No, But
Speaker 5: then he walks off and he says, he says, I
Speaker 5: always believed in you, Molly, but I just didn't believe
Speaker 5: in myself, which is again, I'm getting tingles.
Speaker 6: You know, hi.
Speaker 1: You don't need me to say I'm sorry.
Speaker 6: It's done. It's done for where I'm fine.
Speaker 1: Oh, well, that's true that I'm glad.
Speaker 6: It's not true. It doesn't matter, doesn't.
Speaker 4: He told me he couldn't believe.
Speaker 1: In somebody didn't believe in you.
Speaker 4: I believed in you.
Speaker 1: Always believed in me, just didn't believe in me.
Speaker 4: I love you. Oh and the.
Speaker 2: He came here alone, so you're right, he's not like yellish.
Speaker 7: If you don't go to him now, I'm never gonna
Speaker 7: take you to another problem ever again.
Speaker 6: You're me.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is an incredibly romantic moment, and you're ruining.
Speaker 6: I'm stuck here.
Speaker 4: End.
Speaker 5: But then when Darky says, you go get him, you go, girl,
Speaker 5: you go get him, and Ducky does. He says that
Speaker 5: like Ducky himself doesn't need Molly, you know me, Ducky
Speaker 5: doesn't need Andy. Ducky's okay too. It was just really good.
Speaker 5: Ducky turns around, his hot blonde goes, come here, Ducky. Yeah,
Speaker 5: Ducky goes, well, here we go, here we go, here
Speaker 5: we go. Well that's opened to me as well.
Speaker 2: Christy Swanson that was and then John Cray gives that
Speaker 2: look to camera, which is almost there was a look
Speaker 2: to camera.
Speaker 1: It's the very first Yeah, there was that look to camera.
Speaker 1: It's so fresh.
Speaker 5: And you know, I've got to discuss movies basically the
Speaker 5: night after seeing them because I can remember it so well.
Speaker 1: Week I'll forget about this completely.
Speaker 2: Well, this has been the joy of doing this podcast
Speaker 2: because and I was chatting to While again the other night,
Speaker 2: just saying, what's great about it is I often go
Speaker 2: see movies by myself and then and when I might
Speaker 2: bump into somebody who's seen that movie a week later, it's,
Speaker 2: you know, everyone's a bit busy, so it's you know,
Speaker 2: it's a chatting a corridor or something that you like it?
Speaker 1: What do you think of it? You know? And that's it.
Speaker 2: So the joy of being doing this podcast has been
Speaker 2: having these longer conversations which I feel like we.
Speaker 1: Used to have.
Speaker 2: But maybe I'm just imagining that in my own head.
Speaker 2: But I want to talk about the the Ducky scene
Speaker 2: because the interesting thing from a production point of view
Speaker 2: is that the original ending was they Molly just ended
Speaker 2: up with Ducky.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, you see that happening, Yeah, that was And
Speaker 1: the test screening.
Speaker 2: They did a test screening and apparently people booed, which
Speaker 2: I think sounds harsh. It might have been something that
Speaker 2: might have been Chinese whispers down the line, you know,
Speaker 2: I want to have been. People are saying, I reckon,
Speaker 2: maybe he should have she should have ended up with Blaine.
Speaker 2: But eventually so they went back and reshot.
Speaker 5: Look Blaine, who doesn't say a lot in the film.
Speaker 5: Andrew McCarthy, he's very likable.
Speaker 1: He really is.
Speaker 2: Andrew McCarthy has always had an extremely likable face.
Speaker 5: Yes, so it's like you can you you feel for him,
Speaker 5: you do, and he's done. He does well in the
Speaker 5: film where he doesn't Yeah, as I said, he doesn't
Speaker 5: say a lot, but what he does say is good
Speaker 5: and he seems like a reasonable person and he's stuck
Speaker 5: between two worlds and yeah, you're really so, you know,
Speaker 5: I wasn't unhappy that he ended up with Molly, and
Speaker 5: I was better. I was very happy that Ducky turned
Speaker 5: around and the hot blonde wanted a piece of Darky.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I was. That was good too, Ducky.
Speaker 1: We were feeling sorry for Ducky kill that moment Ducky
Speaker 1: needed to get a win because Ducky was poor.
Speaker 5: By the way, there's at one point there's a scene
Speaker 5: where Ducky is in his bedroom and my wife said,
Speaker 5: does he live in a squash because there was the
Speaker 5: wall Ducky maybe squatting somewhere where Blaine lives in a mansion.
Speaker 1: I really drove that point. So, yeah, the the scene.
Speaker 2: One little clue it's been really shot is Andrew McCarthy
Speaker 2: is he was on Broadway doing a show. He's actually
Speaker 2: wearing a wig in those scenes and is he yea,
Speaker 2: his hair is a little bit different and he's a
Speaker 2: bit more gaunt.
Speaker 1: He actually lost weight to do this role on Broadway, right,
Speaker 1: And this interesting.
Speaker 2: But the passion scene right at the end that finishes
Speaker 2: in the car park, the scene a bit weird to me,
Speaker 2: Like it seemed like a just.
Speaker 1: A weird a weird pash. Yeah, they really kind of
Speaker 1: look I don't.
Speaker 5: Think they're kissing was great, but it wasn't Andy and
Speaker 5: Blaine and Molly and Andrew's well you know that there.
Speaker 5: They weren't great. They didn't kiss great together. But you
Speaker 5: know what, that's probably real life as well. I mean
Speaker 5: often you know, I mean, I I kissed my wife
Speaker 5: and we have a problem one night and she's she's
Speaker 5: not happy with it how it came out. So what
Speaker 5: did you have to kiss her on us? We have
Speaker 5: a problem which she came on one I can't remember
Speaker 5: what for. And but at the end of it, you know,
Speaker 5: you're looking for an out on television. So it was
Speaker 5: like pash and yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm shocked. I'm really shocked. You know. Well, it wasn't
Speaker 1: like we didn't go We don't think tongues, did you.
Speaker 2: This was also shot at the Rydale High where Greece
Speaker 2: was shot at the same school.
Speaker 1: Wow, as all fun, but is.
Speaker 5: It actually with the school? Obviously rich kids at the school,
Speaker 5: poor kids at the school? It was one with school
Speaker 5: in America?
Speaker 1: Is there a scholarship? Was she on a scholarship?
Speaker 2: Was with Duckie? And yeah, I mean, I can't remember
Speaker 2: if that was mentioned at all. That was my impression.
Speaker 5: Perhaps what happens with schooling in America? My wife said
Speaker 5: that it's all public? Is it a high schools all public?
Speaker 5: Or the rich in Australia obviously you know private schools,
Speaker 5: public schools, And yeah, what happens in America?
Speaker 1: Do they have private school, dead pearl society. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So there's there's all these kids, these rich kids going
Speaker 5: to the school, and then there's obviously Duky he lives
Speaker 5: in a squat and Molly who's looking after a depressed father.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they're at the same school.
Speaker 2: But sometimes, you know, like even you go to school
Speaker 2: and there will be kids who you you know, particularly
Speaker 2: if you come from you know, less money, that you
Speaker 2: kind of assume are really like really rich, and they're
Speaker 2: like they're not as rich. It's like there's got a
Speaker 2: little bit more money than you have, because they seem
Speaker 2: to kind of you know. I remember somebody said to
Speaker 2: me because I thought I made of mom was like
Speaker 2: really rich. And remember another saying, mate, nobody who's really
Speaker 2: riches living in Bundura. I was like, okay, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: bigger than that relative relative.
Speaker 1: I remember, you know, thinking how rich my mate was
Speaker 1: who you know, his dad was the butcher.
Speaker 5: But you know, whether they had a butcher shop and
Speaker 5: they sold a lot of meat, but it's just one shop.
Speaker 5: They might have had too, No, I think they had
Speaker 5: one him he's brother, so it wasn't like it was
Speaker 5: the starky brothers.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, well my mate, my mate, they used to
Speaker 2: build a lot of overseas trips so to come home
Speaker 2: and have the new like a new pair of Nikes, Nikes,
Speaker 2: and I thought, okay, well they're obviously rich.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: He claimed to be the first person in Australia they
Speaker 2: have the Bros cassette a push.
Speaker 1: My brother was in the Navy and he went to
Speaker 1: Southeast Asia and the Navy at the age he went
Speaker 1: there when he was sixteen and I was like a
Speaker 1: couple of years younger, and he brought me home a
Speaker 1: brand new pair of Nikes from Southeast Asian. But they
Speaker 1: loved it. About a day they just fell apart. Literally.
Speaker 5: I wore them one day and then they shredded. I
Speaker 5: mean that was terrible workmanship. I was like that, I
Speaker 5: don't reckon they were real Yeah anyway, So yeah.
Speaker 2: So another theory that I think is quite interesting. Do
Speaker 2: you think Dougie's gay?
Speaker 5: Well, initially we thought I thought he was a gay character. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so that was like and that was and but then
Speaker 5: then but very quickly they make you realize that you
Speaker 5: let your led to realize that he's not gay. So
Speaker 5: I don't think he's gay, but he was the way
Speaker 5: the way he acted in the film is the way.
Speaker 5: You know that that often characters in films who are
Speaker 5: gay are portrayed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And I don't think he's gay.
Speaker 2: Molly ring Wild has a theory that she believes he is.
Speaker 2: He doesn't, He doesn't, he doesn't.
Speaker 1: Well, she said that, She said that, she said she's
Speaker 1: trying to just try why. She didn't.
Speaker 5: Why she was shall and went for the rich guy
Speaker 5: had a gay yea, yeah, well she was like, that's why,
Speaker 5: and end up with the guy who's obviously full of
Speaker 5: personality and he's a real character in this film, and
Speaker 5: he's like entertaining.
Speaker 1: He's like, I mean, it could be possibly annoying to
Speaker 1: be around for too long. That's true. He doesn't.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true. You've got to turn it off, switch stucky. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but I don't think he's gay in the film.
Speaker 2: But well, Molly, Molly and John Cray have said and
Speaker 2: Molly Ringwold said that John Hughes will often put gay
Speaker 2: characters in without you know, having them openly. Again, it's
Speaker 2: really interesting because we've spoken about this podcast before. A
Speaker 2: boat you know, who are put into you know, it
Speaker 2: happened to revel without a cause because this was when Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's too controversial again, are you.
Speaker 5: Saying just going to say, are you saying that if
Speaker 5: that film was done in twenty twenty, when she walks
Speaker 5: off with Andrew McCarthy, that when Ducky looks up, there
Speaker 5: would be a guy given him the eye.
Speaker 1: It's probably go right, we're on. It's probably the guy.
Speaker 2: It's probably instead of Kirsty Swanson, it's probably the guy
Speaker 2: from Cobra Kai.
Speaker 1: And the credit seeing the film as well. No, he's
Speaker 1: on the film. But I'm just think of somebody. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: well maybe a hot, hot blonde for me, do you reckon?
Speaker 5: That would have made sense, some some hot guy gone
Speaker 5: over here Ducky.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think maybe I think it matters.
Speaker 2: I do think it makes it. I think it makes
Speaker 2: it a more interesting character, to be honest, because he was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because no, I.
Speaker 5: Look for a young man who has been friend zone,
Speaker 5: who was friend zoned I, you know, who was like
Speaker 5: you know, I'm talking about myself now, who who also
Speaker 5: believed that I was full of personality and was being
Speaker 5: overlooked by young warnable girls who were going for the
Speaker 5: hotter guy.
Speaker 1: They know who they are.
Speaker 5: I yeah, that speech where he realized she's going for
Speaker 5: this other guy, and the speech that Duckie gives to her.
Speaker 5: I certainly gave them in side my head. Whether I
Speaker 5: gave them to actual young women or not, I can't remember.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I don't think that he don't the characters gay.
Speaker 2: I don't think it really. I just want to say,
Speaker 2: I don't think it matters, like because he's feeling what
Speaker 2: he's feeling. Yeah, it's not this feeling.
Speaker 1: I don't think he.
Speaker 5: Would have had those I'm not gay, but I don't
Speaker 5: think he would have had those exact feelings. If he
Speaker 5: was gay, he would have had a different speech, you know. So,
Speaker 5: So I I am on record now going against Molly
Speaker 5: Ringwood who was in the film, And I don't know
Speaker 5: what John Hughes said about this, or what.
Speaker 1: John Hughson hasn't said that.
Speaker 2: John cry Has has has said that he believes the
Speaker 2: character like is like if he did a teen year
Speaker 2: later sequel.
Speaker 1: Ducky's maybe with a blike Yeah, Well I don't. I disagree.
Speaker 1: I disagree.
Speaker 5: I disagree with the two actors in the film, but
Speaker 5: the guy who wrote it, who hasn't said anything.
Speaker 1: And he joins us now Afterworld Opennes.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I I absolutely agree with you that it's
Speaker 2: really powerful when to see those scenes. The first one
Speaker 2: that where I thought, Okay, I'm really warm in the
Speaker 2: ducky was in the bedroom when he's so close and
Speaker 2: he's like trying to get the courage to say something.
Speaker 2: I mean, you would have been in that situation, Yes,
Speaker 2: I would be in that situation growing up, where I'm like, I.
Speaker 1: Just need to tell this person, yes, why not me?
Speaker 1: You know me and you know and I can just
Speaker 1: say it and then see how what happened. But you
Speaker 1: don't want the rejection.
Speaker 5: I wanted to say nah, even though you know you
Speaker 5: assume that's what they're going to say. Some of the
Speaker 5: Kate Lambers always say, you've always got no, You've already
Speaker 5: got no.
Speaker 1: Why not ask you've already got no.
Speaker 2: She's a wise woman. She's a wise woman, that Kate Lambron. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what did you think of the do you know what
Speaker 2: computer program? Lane was using to stalker computer program?
Speaker 5: That was a computer The computers were great earlier mid eighties.
Speaker 5: Computing is just so cool and it was like they
Speaker 5: were doing what what they were doing was would have
Speaker 5: at a time been blowing people away where they were
Speaker 5: basically having a chat via computer. Now it was just
Speaker 5: you know, obviously every moment occurrence.
Speaker 1: It's not the first dating app.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was incredible. Yeah, and then yeah, look, I
Speaker 5: don't know, well you asked what program it was, I
Speaker 5: don't know, but it was.
Speaker 1: It was. It was funny to watch, it was. It
Speaker 1: was quite brilliant. I just want to go through this
Speaker 1: period of the eighties and fashion is amazing. By the way,
Speaker 1: the hair is incredible.
Speaker 2: I mean Anie Parts, I think Wins, you know, for
Speaker 2: her hairstyle with the spiky kind of yeah, the big spiky.
Speaker 5: I look at photos of my sisters from those days.
Speaker 5: You know, my sisters were about the same age as
Speaker 5: I was. I was a little bit younger, but yeah,
Speaker 5: a few years, but yeah, that's same.
Speaker 1: Here is that hair, that massive hair.
Speaker 5: The photos of their eighteenths and stuff from the eighties
Speaker 5: just massive.
Speaker 2: I feel like it is that style come back. Do
Speaker 2: you think like we're not fashionists, but I feel like
Speaker 2: watching Pretty Pink, you know, like some of the fashion's funny,
Speaker 2: but it feels like it has been part of society
Speaker 2: again since that time.
Speaker 5: Well with Molly Ringwold, who was like an op shop girl.
Speaker 5: She liked fashion for well, my wife was I was
Speaker 5: watching with my wife and she's saying that her fashion
Speaker 5: from that film is just like now fashion. She was
Speaker 5: so fashion forward in that film.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and which apparently came for a lot of her
Speaker 1: own tastes.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Right, so, and that was that's the hipster look that
Speaker 5: that's traveled through the ages, and she was right on it.
Speaker 1: Robert Downey Jr. Almost played Ducky. Yeah, Wow, that.
Speaker 5: Was interesting, isn't it. Howld have he gone as Ducky? Yeah,
Speaker 5: because it's interesting if Yeah, you too handsome to play Ducky. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I reckon, because I feel like I feel like Ducky.
Speaker 5: There's no way that if Robert Downey Jr. Had to
Speaker 5: play Ducky at the end of the film choice at
Speaker 5: at the end of the film, I don't reckon the
Speaker 5: test screening they would to boot would have gone, of course,
Speaker 5: of course, Robert Danny Jr. Yeah, two hands hagon too handsome,
Speaker 5: Yeah to play Ducky.
Speaker 1: I think you're right.
Speaker 2: I was impressed at some of the Ducky's BMX moves. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you were you a BMX guy.
Speaker 5: I look, I dreamed of having a mongo Yeah, do
Speaker 5: you have a mongoose? Dream came of a mongoose? Yeah,
Speaker 5: So I never had a mongoose. I did, never been
Speaker 5: back to one point, but I was never good enough. God,
Speaker 5: I'm so just on a side note, I'm so you
Speaker 5: ever go past a half pipe? Do you ever look
Speaker 5: at the skate well it goes on in those on
Speaker 5: skateboards or scooters or bmx's inside those half pipes?
Speaker 1: Unbelievable? How good people are?
Speaker 2: Have you stood on one and looked down the fact
Speaker 2: that I've never scaped me and skateboards?
Speaker 1: No, I'm not.
Speaker 5: I never attained any heights, although part I hurt myself
Speaker 5: going down hills too too steep over the you know,
Speaker 5: as a young man. But yeah, I've never what people
Speaker 5: can do incredible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just go.
Speaker 2: Let's go through though, because there are a bunch of
Speaker 2: actors in John Hughes movies and they're not quite cursed
Speaker 2: at all.
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of people who are like.
Speaker 2: Huge for a period of time and then they just
Speaker 2: kind of didn't do much. Did Andrew McCarthy like what happened?
Speaker 2: He's so he's so.
Speaker 1: Enjoyable to watch.
Speaker 2: And so he makes Class in eighty three, moving called
Speaker 2: Class I think, which aad Michael Keaton in it. Then
Speaker 2: Saint Almost Fire Fire, that the brat Packs Born Pretty
Speaker 2: in Pink in eighty six, Manequin in eighty seven, Weekend
Speaker 2: at Bernie's in eighty nine, and then we can at
Speaker 2: Bernie's and there's one or two misfires in amongst these,
Speaker 2: but week In at Bernie's two in ninety two, and
Speaker 2: then he's in the joy Luck Club weirdly in not
Speaker 2: necessarily weirdly, but I don't remember him being in that
Speaker 2: in ninety three. And then that was almost the last
Speaker 2: decent thing he did, and he's done a lot of
Speaker 2: TV appearances in verious recently.
Speaker 1: I don't think what happened. I've seen him. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know why he went cold.
Speaker 2: Look like now, I just actually I saw a little
Speaker 2: thing where he was talking about how he understands why
Speaker 2: pretty Pink still resonates, and.
Speaker 1: He looks pretty good. It looks pretty good.
Speaker 2: Like I'm waiting for Michael Keaton style comeback for Andrew McCarthy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, is it possible that would be? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Look, seeing him in that film and liking him in
Speaker 5: that film. And I haven't really focused on him much ever.
Speaker 5: Really we did wonder what happened to him? Why didn't
Speaker 5: he Why isn't he Why isn't that really likable, watchable,
Speaker 5: seemingly good actor, worked much again, it's weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Spainer kind of had ups and downs. And
Speaker 2: he's had more some TV hits, you know, yeah, right recently,
Speaker 2: and he was he was so great as Robert California
Speaker 2: in the Office when Steve Carrell left, he did one season.
Speaker 1: I've never really watched the American Office. Oh you really must.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love the English one, and I just never
Speaker 5: I've never given the American one at the time.
Speaker 1: I've never given the time. I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people rave about it.
Speaker 2: I love the UK and yeah, I've stopped even trying
Speaker 2: to compare.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it is. It's absolutely brilliant.
Speaker 5: If it's James Spader did seem he went off the
Speaker 5: radar for a long time, and he never really became
Speaker 5: a movie star after.
Speaker 1: No he made him.
Speaker 2: He was making quite subversive, kind of almost erotic kind
Speaker 2: of films like crap maybe Crash about the not the
Speaker 2: central bullet one, but the one way that you you
Speaker 2: people get turned on by crashing in the cars and
Speaker 2: is it good? Haven't been able to make my way
Speaker 2: through it. David Cronenberg. It's it was weird because my dad,
Speaker 2: who very rarely takes him off, takes himself to go
Speaker 2: see a movie, was on a work trip in Canberra
Speaker 2: and came home and Tommy when I saw that movie
Speaker 2: was and he said, it was a bit shocked by it.
Speaker 1: So well, you.
Speaker 5: Probably knew what after the fact. Try to make myself
Speaker 5: feel better on.
Speaker 1: A work trip.
Speaker 2: But mate, that's that is awesome. I'm so glad, thank
Speaker 2: you for doing this podcast. I know it is a
Speaker 2: podcast that comes with a little bit of homework.
Speaker 1: You know, I absolutely loved it.
Speaker 5: I loved watching that Pretty in Pink film, which I
Speaker 5: probably never would have watched if I hadn't had to
Speaker 5: watch a film like a well known film for this podcast.
Speaker 5: I know the brief was watch a well known film,
Speaker 5: and you gave me Apart from the Shape of Water,
Speaker 5: you gave me a list of I reckon one hundred
Speaker 5: films and I pretty much watch them all, so I
Speaker 5: can't remember most of them, but I've watched them. I
Speaker 5: am a film watcher, but I had not seen Pretty Pink.
Speaker 5: I don't even know it was on the list, to
Speaker 5: be honest. But that is a good film to And
Speaker 5: now it's all about the streaming service, isn't it?
Speaker 1: In life?
Speaker 5: We just go what can I see that's different? Pretty
Speaker 5: in Pink? If you haven't seen it, put it on.
Speaker 5: It's on stand.
Speaker 2: And there isn't that called There's anap called just watch,
Speaker 2: which I use and you it's just watch and if
Speaker 2: you type in whatever movie you want to watch, it'll
Speaker 2: tell you which streaming services it's available.
Speaker 1: Lot just watch.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is an effort to go through the streaming
Speaker 5: service to find out which is on which.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's becoming very hand and for this podcast, but
Speaker 2: did you did you ever end up making it to
Speaker 2: not a prom but a formal law.
Speaker 1: No, I never did. Look.
Speaker 5: I did the graduation, which was not a date thing.
Speaker 5: I remember in Victoria it was like it was the
Speaker 5: deb so you need to be and the girl had
Speaker 5: to ask the guy to do the deb and no
Speaker 5: one asked me. It was it was a tragedy. Although
Speaker 5: one girl she didn't do a deb and she should
Speaker 5: have asked me. I would have definitely said yes, Janine.
Speaker 5: We had a moment afterwards back in anyway, in Janine.
Speaker 1: I did a deb Sorry man, well I mean you
Speaker 1: were better than me, but I did.
Speaker 5: I did go to the graduation and dance, and I'll
Speaker 5: never forget, which is a year twelve after, you know,
Speaker 5: I never forget my parents sitting me down the day
Speaker 5: after the graduation and saying to me, you shouldn't dance.
Speaker 1: You've got no rhythms. Just a terrible thing for my parents.
Speaker 2: You know you should do because you just started on
Speaker 2: Sydney Breakfast Cracking start.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're loving it. Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2: Of course you do brilliant you know what you should do? Well,
Speaker 2: he's his debut on ball. Imagine all the people never
Speaker 2: got to do it, got it to worry, but I should.
Speaker 1: And the girls all the way pink.
Speaker 2: And then and you get all the all the hot
Speaker 2: guys can be the ducky.
Speaker 1: It's a good idea that.
Speaker 2: Lock it in all right, mate, Thanks for playing with us,
Speaker 2: Good on you mate, Love's daunting, great fun there with
Speaker 2: my great mate Dave Hughsey Hughes.
Speaker 1: Check him out if you're in Sydney.
Speaker 2: Sydney Breakfast Radio on today f M with Ed Cavallet
Speaker 2: and Aaron Molan the podcast. I'm sure he's available and
Speaker 2: just whatever he's doing, you know, he's out, he's on
Speaker 2: the road constantly. He's got his.
Speaker 1: Problem still.
Speaker 2: He stayed to make sure I mentioned everything that he's doing. Hughsy,
Speaker 2: we have a problem. Is a great show up here
Speaker 2: in that periodically, so it's hard to get Pete. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm busy watching movies.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Thanks Derek mis my podcast manager at Casways Studios dot
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Speaker 2: loving all the feedback, keep it coming. Bye, And so
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