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Speaker 2: This is the Flex and Frooms catch up podcast, Happy Thursday.
Speaker 1: We chat about being called baby today.
Speaker 2: I'm going to say this week the brain was a
Speaker 2: little bit hollow. Yeah, like it was probably half half
Speaker 2: some some some topics.
Speaker 3: I still you had a few profound moments.
Speaker 2: In amongst some fluffier times. Well, we came to the
Speaker 2: conclusion that people like being called baby.
Speaker 3: I don't know if we came to that conclusion. That
Speaker 3: feels like, actually, that feels like a bit of a
Speaker 3: fighting word. But we also talked about how to scientifically
Speaker 3: increase your luck, and I could say we did feel
Speaker 3: like there was some there was some value.
Speaker 1: I'll be taking that all right.
Speaker 3: Enjoy the show.
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Speaker 1: You're listening to Flex and Frooms.
Speaker 2: On kait Hey baby, you like being called baby?
Speaker 3: No? Oh is a question?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Sorry, I got nervous. Yeah, like all pet names.
Speaker 1: If I would call you baby, would you find that inappropriate?
Speaker 3: I don't think you'd say it, well, but I'd let
Speaker 3: it slide.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, allegedly calling a woman baby is good for
Speaker 2: her mental health. The word does do something to the
Speaker 2: female brain. It releases a certain chemical and brain oxytocin.
Speaker 3: Santialization of women.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, dumpack, and I'll provacy this by
Speaker 1: saying this came from Elite Daily, which I went on.
Speaker 2: Not going to Lead Daily every day in twenty thirteen,
Speaker 2: get to go for a breakup, and they were enabling
Speaker 2: my feelings in a way that was actually quite onerous.
Speaker 2: According to numerous catalogs discussing stress reducing techniques, being called
Speaker 2: baby has a positive effect on the female brain.
Speaker 1: When we start saying female brain.
Speaker 2: You know we're going.
Speaker 3: So we're not quite right, and yet here we are.
Speaker 1: There aren't enough specific studies focusing on the word baby.
Speaker 1: They do remind us, but there are reports on.
Speaker 4: The words So someone said, A friend of mine said,
Speaker 4: and that's the study of they're referencing.
Speaker 3: I was having a chat on the weekend.
Speaker 2: This is like in COVID when suddenly everyone had a
Speaker 2: hook up to the infectious disease doctor from a leading
Speaker 2: expert at the Royal Women's Hospital.
Speaker 1: Shut up, stop it.
Speaker 2: For example, when we hear the word no, our bodies
Speaker 2: start producing a stress hormone. The opposite happens when we
Speaker 2: hear baby and yes. When a woman hears that she's
Speaker 2: your baby, she can't help but looking like her baby.
Speaker 3: One more time.
Speaker 4: This is like spreading misinformation. Did you read this article
Speaker 4: in the way Mickey just pointing thing? Your eyes darted
Speaker 4: so quickly to Micky when Ti mak you send it
Speaker 4: to me? I did say that's a fantastic one.
Speaker 2: Let's take it, and then you copy and pasted quotes
Speaker 2: for three.
Speaker 3: There is currently a dating app in the market where
Speaker 3: guys cannot get in unless they are endorsed by a woman.
Speaker 3: The app has two out of five stars on Google
Speaker 3: play less than two hundred reviews. I did my due diligence.
Speaker 3: It's called Hula. Hulah the dating app that empowers Women.
Speaker 3: This is their words, by the way, directly from their
Speaker 3: Google play listing, The dating app that empowers women to
Speaker 3: take control of their dating lives and date only better guys.
Speaker 3: On Hula, any woman in a relationship or single can
Speaker 3: join and become a ringleader. Phrase is very interesting and
Speaker 3: endorse guys for other single women to date. This provides
Speaker 3: real world accountability for every man on the platform, making
Speaker 3: it a safer space for women to connect and date.
Speaker 3: Here's how it works. As a single woman going through men,
Speaker 3: you'll only see the best of the best guys because
Speaker 3: every guy on Huler has been endorsed by a woman
Speaker 3: to be on the platform. If you're a guy who
Speaker 3: is lucky enough to be endorsed by a hula ring leader,
Speaker 3: you'll own points for good gentlemanly behavior. These points can
Speaker 3: lead to some and I quote seriously awesome rewards. So
Speaker 3: it's in everyone's best interest to bring in be the
Speaker 3: best of the best. So girls come, become a ringleader
Speaker 3: and invite your single best friend. I kind of like it,
Speaker 3: like I like the concept. I like it in theory,
Speaker 3: but it also goes back to that fundamental issues. Let's
Speaker 3: say I'm coming to you through me, yeah, and I'm
Speaker 3: telling you about an experience that I've had with a
Speaker 3: guy friend of yours, and you're like, oh, I think
Speaker 3: he's quite great now. I was like, oh, I don't know,
Speaker 3: Like I felt quite unsafe around him. He made a
Speaker 3: few jokes that I wasn't comfortable with. You know, you know,
Speaker 3: I saw the way he interacted with this person. I
Speaker 3: don't like him. And you might say, well, I've only
Speaker 3: had good experiences with him. I've never experienced that side,
Speaker 3: and so you'll go and endorse him on this app.
Speaker 3: I think the tricky thing with dating endorsements is that
Speaker 3: often what happens is the person that you know as
Speaker 3: your friend is not the person you know as a
Speaker 3: partner because they aren't your partner. And everybody's great friend
Speaker 3: is somebody's bad partner, and vice versa. Everyone's a bad
Speaker 3: friend is somebody's good partner. So what I could find
Speaker 3: to be a little bit contradictory or a little bit
Speaker 3: a little bit hindering about the experience is that you
Speaker 3: have a bunch of people endorsing their friends about their
Speaker 3: friendship and not really endorsing people who've been in relationships
Speaker 3: with them about their relationship.
Speaker 1: And it's very different.
Speaker 3: It's extremely different.
Speaker 1: How is that that it's different?
Speaker 2: Is it because of because some people are such good friends,
Speaker 2: but then they turn completely different in a relationship setting.
Speaker 3: I just think there are lower expectations in friendships because
Speaker 3: they're really harder. I mean, the number one, you can
Speaker 3: juggle so many friendships at once, So what you don't
Speaker 3: get from one person you will get from thirty four
Speaker 3: others if you so choose. And a lot of what
Speaker 3: people expect from friendships are varied and a lot of
Speaker 3: the stakes are quite low. So if you want a
Speaker 3: few friends to send memes to, a few friends to
Speaker 3: party with, a few friends to go to dinner with,
Speaker 3: you can seek that out quite easily. But in romance,
Speaker 3: generally speaking, you now have to seek at this one
Speaker 3: person to be a lot of things for you in
Speaker 3: a close to excellent way. And so your expectation to
Speaker 3: create this unnecessary, not unnecessary, the very necessary pressure on
Speaker 3: the dynamic, which means that the pressure that you're putting
Speaker 3: onto someone is unlocking a different part of them in return.
Speaker 3: And so yes, you've never seen this type of person.
Speaker 3: You've never seen this type of behavior from a friend
Speaker 3: because you've never had to put pressure or expectations on
Speaker 3: them as you might have if you were in a
Speaker 3: relationship real life. Just keeps laughing, fortunately or unfortunately if
Speaker 3: you end up using this. I'm not sure if it's
Speaker 3: available in Australia. I couldn't find on the apps or
Speaker 3: I didn't try very hard, though I didn't, but I
Speaker 3: will say they're doing their due diligence. On TikTok, I'm
Speaker 3: seeing a few people post about it, you know, not
Speaker 3: posting using it but posting talking about it, so that
Speaker 3: in itself is a little gap in expectation versus reality.
Speaker 3: But I'm happy to see that there are more players
Speaker 3: in the market. Always, dating is a lifelong problem that
Speaker 3: needs to be.
Speaker 2: Solved another day, another opportunity for the overlords to come
Speaker 2: to us to sell us a product. I came across
Speaker 2: this TikTok which was about a shark tank. What are
Speaker 2: they called, like, business creators, entrepreneur. Yeah, these guys came
Speaker 2: on shark tank and their idea was to create a
Speaker 2: glove that women could use when taking out their sanitary items.
Speaker 2: Have you heard of this FLEXI?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have.
Speaker 2: I feel like you would have done a deep dive
Speaker 2: on this back in the day.
Speaker 3: Perhaps, so things just sound so silly from the jump
Speaker 3: that there's no need to explore further.
Speaker 2: Literally, so, these guys, two of the founders, met in
Speaker 2: the army before moving into a woman's flat and noticing
Speaker 2: that there seemed to be no good solution when it
Speaker 2: came to the disposal of tampons. It goes on to
Speaker 2: say that their inventive spirit was awakened and they just
Speaker 2: had to come up with the solutions. So their solution
Speaker 2: a pink glove that you could put on when you
Speaker 2: take out, say your tampon, and then you wrap it
Speaker 2: like you pull the glove inside out and it becomes
Speaker 2: like a little discreete packaging. And I got to say
Speaker 2: on the outset, if you do have your period on
Speaker 2: the go, sometimes that's a nice little little treat, A
Speaker 2: little treat for the girl of these pops. Say you're
Speaker 2: at someone's house, you don't want to be putting it
Speaker 2: in any bins. Take a home in your bag. We've
Speaker 2: all done it. A pad's another great one that's probably
Speaker 2: a bit more red hot. But obviously people are saying,
Speaker 2: why are you investors coming for these multimillion dollar investment
Speaker 2: deals for a product that only perpetuates the idea that
Speaker 2: periods are gross.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It kind of reminds me how if you look
Speaker 3: behind the curtain for a lot of prominent brands made
Speaker 3: for women, so women's clothing, women's jewelry, women's sanitary items,
Speaker 3: women's health, it's run by men, and so you start
Speaker 3: to think about the solutions that we've had for us,
Speaker 3: and you kind of think someone's kind of off, Like
Speaker 3: why don't out clothes have pockets and you know, why
Speaker 3: would someone make this thing in that way? And it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: because it wasn't made for you, by you. And that's
Speaker 3: why it was such a big pr moment when Volkswagen no,
Speaker 3: I think it's a Volvo designed a car buy women
Speaker 3: for women, and they changed so many things about like
Speaker 3: the way the seat belts would do up to accommodate
Speaker 3: for a chest or a bust, or the way the
Speaker 3: distance between the actual uh the acceleration the accelerator and
Speaker 3: the break between that and the chair, and the way
Speaker 3: that the chairs would fit to accommodate a wider hip,
Speaker 3: and all of these considerations that had him been made before.
Speaker 3: And you know, there was this idea that you know,
Speaker 3: cars have always been made to be adjustable. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: adjustable within certain parameters that were made for men.
Speaker 1: That's so cool. I never thought of that.
Speaker 3: And that is oh really you thought you bought I
Speaker 3: want one? Oh you want? And they have done similar
Speaker 3: studies on public transport for example, like you know those
Speaker 3: groupie things and to hold to keep you upright are
Speaker 3: so high up this today so tall. Anyway, you start
Speaker 3: to look too deeply, it gets a bit sinister.
Speaker 1: It gets so sinister. So yeah, the pink gloves, I
Speaker 1: don't think they came to fruition.
Speaker 3: Where are they now?
Speaker 1: Where are they now? You're listening to flex and rooms
Speaker 1: on Kita.
Speaker 3: That's proof that you could increase your luck. Would you try?
Speaker 3: That is the question we're asking today. So love Sophie
Speaker 3: Burns on TikTok is talking about this exercise that she
Speaker 3: was made to do in a university class, and her
Speaker 3: lecture was talking about the scientific ways to increase your luck.
Speaker 3: And so what he got them to do was separate
Speaker 3: all into micro groups of five or six people. So
Speaker 3: there could have been six people in this class, could
Speaker 3: have been one hundred, who knows. But when you go
Speaker 3: and separate and break out into these little groups, you
Speaker 3: are told to close your eyes and think about something
Speaker 3: that you need a resource, a connection, You need a
Speaker 3: new car, you need better grades, and you need like
Speaker 3: someone to go shopping with, and you need a book recommendation.
Speaker 3: And so you think about all those things quite clearly
Speaker 3: in your head, and then when you open your eyes,
Speaker 3: you're all instructed to express what it is that you need.
Speaker 3: So I might say to for me, I need someone
Speaker 3: to house it on the weekend and I'm really stressed
Speaker 3: about that because if I don't house it on the weekend,
Speaker 3: then my plants die. I don't have plants that don't
Speaker 3: need a house it up, but for example, and then
Speaker 3: someone else in the grip might say, oh, my goodness,
Speaker 3: I was just thinking that I need a bit of
Speaker 3: extra cash because I just lost my job and I
Speaker 3: don't want the commitment of a full time job and
Speaker 3: I would love an odd job. Suddenly we've just gotten lucky.
Speaker 3: I needed something, you needed something, and we both fulfilled
Speaker 3: each other's needs. And then someone else says, oh my god,
Speaker 3: that's so crazy, because I was saying that, like it
Speaker 3: might be annoying to say, but I just I'm really
Speaker 3: struggling in this class and I just need some kind
Speaker 3: of clarity. And then someone else says, well, i'm trying
Speaker 3: to get extra credit, and I was told I should
Speaker 3: be a tutor to get some extra credit. What about
Speaker 3: we band together? And so what happens is that, statistically speaking,
Speaker 3: in expressing a need out loud, expressing a need openly publicly,
Speaker 3: with conviction being very clear on it, often there is
Speaker 3: somebody around you that can assist. And so, on the
Speaker 3: odd chance that you were someone in the group who
Speaker 3: didn't get your needs met. What happens to you? Do
Speaker 3: you just resign to the fact that you don't get
Speaker 3: what you want? Well, no, then you're instructed to go
Speaker 3: to another group and express your need there. Go to
Speaker 3: another group and express your need there. And what happened
Speaker 3: is of all the groups that express their needs, the
Speaker 3: majority had their needs met. So the moral to the
Speaker 3: story or the solution here is that people often think
Speaker 3: that luck is this thing that will just happen to you,
Speaker 3: but we're not recognizing that a characteristic of people that
Speaker 3: we need to be lucky are people who are always
Speaker 3: expressing a need and offering assistance for others who express
Speaker 3: needing things. And so if you want something or you
Speaker 3: want to increase your luck, you should say it out
Speaker 3: loud with conviction, and should also make yourself available to
Speaker 3: also help people fulfill their luck.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is why I think I saw
Speaker 2: that Instagram and it could have just been like fake
Speaker 2: Instagram news. It's gonna create a thing where you can
Speaker 2: create lists where you do a story that only certain
Speaker 2: people can see, like different to close friends. But it's
Speaker 2: like wider lists and everything in the whole time I
Speaker 2: need something between close friends and everyone else, and that's
Speaker 2: what I need. Damn.
Speaker 1: Do you have a lava lamp at home?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh you do? Whereabouts?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 3: It's in the cupboard. I don't have it out. We
Speaker 3: have enough powerpoints.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because what's actually in it? Like waks, It's wax.
Speaker 3: So when you turn on the lamp, it melts the
Speaker 3: wax and then the wax moves around in the liquid.
Speaker 1: Are you serious? I would have never known what it was.
Speaker 1: That's so cool.
Speaker 2: They get very hot, they do. I love the look
Speaker 2: somebody's wondering. Is this a bit juvenile for me?
Speaker 3: Now? I love a love lamp. I should bring mine out.
Speaker 3: That's a good shout. Yeah, get clacks a lamp with
Speaker 3: a lava lamp.
Speaker 2: Well, I saw these lava lamps on TikTok and there
Speaker 2: was like a socio cultural backing to why they're interesting.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play the crab. It all makes sense once
Speaker 2: you see.
Speaker 1: It's from Jason ka Pagan play the Titiki.
Speaker 5: Well, this rack of one hundred lava lamps is not
Speaker 5: just an art project. That rack of lava lamps is
Speaker 5: key to how internet security works. In fact, it can
Speaker 5: be found at Cloudfare, the IT web security company. The
Speaker 5: key to any kind of computer security is random numbers.
Speaker 5: You need to be able to generate a random value
Speaker 5: that only the user has that they can use to
Speaker 5: log in. If a hacker could guess that value.
Speaker 6: Then it's no good. So in order to generate truly
Speaker 6: random values, they have cameras pointed at this wall of lava,
Speaker 6: lamps taking pictures of it, and the exact position of
Speaker 6: the drops of lava determined the values.
Speaker 1: What I'm not gonna lie? Do you think I honested
Speaker 1: what he was saying.
Speaker 3: I'm giving you the benefit of the job.
Speaker 1: Look, I'm never going to understand what computers are about.
Speaker 3: You sure, Actually you've got a good grip on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you really changed my life when you said that, Like,
Speaker 2: all of our assets are somewhere they not, Like the
Speaker 2: cloud is a physical place.
Speaker 1: Why do they call it cloud then?
Speaker 3: To confuse us?
Speaker 2: Yeah, up in the cloud. What's going to happen when
Speaker 2: everyone dies to our digital data?
Speaker 3: What happens to everything when everything is gone?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: The memories remains.
Speaker 2: On that note, guys, I will be going to the
Speaker 2: vending machine now to go get a little chocolate too.
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